CPA HELPPPP ANYONE??? PLZZZZ

I would switch to a different offer if you are convinced that all of these people did indeen fill out the info and you didn't get paid.

Not really a whole lot more that you can do.

What network was this? If it is one with a good reputation, you are probably not getting taken advantage of because of your newbie status...

What were the offer requirements? Even if they just ask for name, number, weight and if you smoke, they may only be looking for leads from a specific country, etc...

What do your stats say...

Since you are being paid for leads, it shouldn't matter if the company calls or not. It is only your job to get them the info...It is their job to close the deal

Also, scrubbing is a huge part of the CPA game...everyone has to deal with it

Maxbounty is a reputable outfit, so they are probably not ripping you off...

Ok, then why do I have 11 clicks and only 1 action? I am positive the 5 filed out the correct information. So why am I only getting paid for one lead? Also, why is my EPC going down instead of up w/ every new click???

Hello Robin,

I can definitely see your concern... And its a bummer this happened to you on your very first campaign! Don't think that CPA is always like that but every once in a while you will come across an advertiser ( or network ) that shaves or scrubs leads like this.

First of all... I don't think you understand what EPC means... Its kind of confusing at first.. When I first started I though it meant how much money I was going to make just for getting someone to click the link no matter what! lol

EPC is an estament of how much money you will make per person that goes to your offer based on your stats. For example, if you have 100 clicks to you offer, and you have maid $100 then your EPC would be $1 because so far you have had made $1 for every person that clicked on your add. Now, if you had 100 clicks and you had made $1, your EPC would be $0.01. If you look at some offers, it will show you the average EPC before you promote the offer just to give you an idea how well it is going for everyone else ( You can get EPCs specific to different marketing types from your AM ( affiliate manager)). Lets say the average EPC for search for an offer is $.50... That means other people doing search are making $.50 AVERAGE per person that clicks on there campaign! This will tell you that you should be pretty safe if the keywords you want to bid on all cost $.25 per click ( in theory )... Remember this is an estament. The reason why your EPC is going down is because you are getting more clicks... if you have maid $100 off of 50 clicks your EPC is $2.00... If you have maid $100 dollars off of 51 clicks your EPC is $1.96. I hope that helps!

Now, about the leads that were shaved or scrubbed. #1- You should promote a different offer. Just so you know, the advertiser ( the people who own the offer ) have the ability to scrub those leads... Not all of them do. Also some affiliate networks shave leads for increased profit... Not all of advertisers will do this. Maxbounty has a pretty good reputation. Just like Jeremy said above, you should defiantly promote a different offer. What offer was it? There is not much you can do at all about the leads that were lost. This is not a normal thing.

I know your a beginning so this is a bummer ( Its a bummer for anyone ). But one thing you could learn from this for the future is this... If you are going to promote an offer, lets say it is life insurance... Take 2 or 3 life insurance offers and set them on a redirect that will rotate through all 2 or 3 of your affiliate links for those offers ( this is very very easy to do and I or anyone could show you how ). Then after you launch your email or ppc campaign or what ever, you will see that one of them maybe converting much much better then the others.. so after you know for sure... You make it so all your traffic goes to that one offer that is doing well, that way you maximize your profit.

This may seem difficult or confusing or just a hassle... Put it can make a big difference!

The very first day I maid money with CPA was with an email I sent out to my friends and family for a life insurance offer!... Probably like you did?... I had 3 people do it for a total of $32 dollars! That felt really good!

Anyways.. I hope that helps a bit... Just change the offer, some advertisers scrub like that... most don't.

Just so you know. And most people don't realize this... But just because an offer is on another network, or is simply another offer on the same network... It does not mean it is a different offer... Of example, Hydra has about 20 different DEBT offers, well all of those offers are actually owned by around 4 different companies!... And most all the debt offers on other networks are from those same companies as well. So if you pick a new life insurance offer make sure it is from a different advertiser or your results may not change very much! The way to tell if an offer is from the same advertiser or not is to look at the Terms of conditions, contact us, and or privacy policy pages ( normally at the bottom of the page )... They normally do not change those pages... You can also look for a phone number or address on one of those pages, even if they change those pages, there mailing address or phone number will probably be the same. You will be able to see patterns in those pages.

Don't let this scare you... Most people that have been working with CPA for a while have never even had to think about this! But if you find an advertiser that you want to stay away from like you have, then you want to make sure you don't just promote another one of there offers!

Hope that helps!

Thanks,

Micah Rush

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Hey Robin, yes this forum is very nice!

I don't think you should push the issue... Maybe just seem curious to why they did not convert when you know they did because it was family or something like that if at all. That will probably be a good thing, and I think you have already probably done that. I think you should let it die down and just move to another offer.

Remember, it is probably the advertiser not the network.

Ya, clickbooth seems so unorganized. But, they are using the same platform that most networks are using... Direct track.

Can you tell me what offer you were promoting? I may have ran the same one in the past or know one that would work much better for you.



Micah Rush

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What a great simple idea sending out to family and friends
Why did I not think of that!!!

Any other start up tips anyone?
Danny