PAID TRAFFIC - Anyone has some hard statisctics

by nik0 Banned
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Let's say I buy a solo ad at $0,40 per click, 1000 clicks, so $400 spend.

Get an optin of let's say 40% according to how they advertise it (I highly doubt that but well).

So we end up with 400 subscribers.

We follow up with an email series written by a professional copywriter to get the highest converting rates.

What should we expect in the MMO niche when we offer a cheap $5 trial from a famous high converting program?

How many people would convert into the full version when the trial ends.

What is the life value of a subscriber? How many follow up orders will they place?

I know these questions are a bit general.

In other words what I actually like to ask is, are solo ads profitable or is it a waste of money?

How much time should I expect to turn an positive ROI?

Is it realistic to make my money back in the first few weeks or do I really need to include the lifetime value of the subscriber in the calculation or otherwise it will for sure be a losing strategy?

Are these methods based on catching buy-sick people on your list and do you pull most of your value from these and without them it's doomed to fail? (in other words you need large samples as when the numbers go up you automatically end up with a few of such people).

Any idea about conversion rates? Say I buy 1000 solo clicks, would it convert at a clickbank rate of 0,2-0,5% when sending them from a website instead of using solo ads, or should we expect better conversion rates from solo ads and the follow up series after they subscribed to our list.

How does direct traffic compare to email list traffic in terms of conversions? Maybe that's a better phrased question to answer?

How much would you comfortably spend to get 1 person on your MMO list? $0,50? $1,-? Less?

No PM's from people who aim to sell coaching please.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    No one can answer this for you.

    Test and you will find out. That's the only way to market.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      You should expect exactly zero if you buy a solo ad from a solo ad provider.

      Solo ads used to work a couple years ago.

      Don't get me wrong, solo ads can work. It's just that most solo ad vendors
      just have lists of freebie seekers.

      Go ahead and test it yourself.

      Even if you find one solo ad provider that delivers excellent leads you will
      have a hard time trying to scale.
      Yep, agreed. The very nature of solo ads is that they are lists being pimped out every day of the week. They are being exposed to multiple offers all the time. So even if you get some of them on your list today, remember they will be sent new offers tomorrow and will be off to the next shiny thing.

      Not a good quality way to build lists.

      Use paid traffic sources instead.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        Yep, agreed. The very nature of solo ads is that they are lists being pimped out every day of the week. They are being exposed to multiple offers all the time. So even if you get some of them on your list today, remember they will be sent new offers tomorrow and will be off to the next shiny thing.

        Not a good quality way to build lists.

        Use paid traffic sources instead.
        Exactly, we talked about that as well, each day a different offer, making the list completely worthless as they sell to anyone who wants to buy a spot.

        Which kind of paid traffic would you recommend? Don't mention Facebook please.

        PPC or Media Buys?

        I heard good things about Bing so far.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      You should expect exactly zero if you buy a solo ad from a solo ad provider.

      Solo ads used to work a couple years ago.

      Don't get me wrong, solo ads can work. It's just that most solo ad vendors
      just have lists of freebie seekers.

      Go ahead and test it yourself.

      Even if you find one solo ad provider that delivers excellent leads you will
      have a hard time trying to scale.
      That's exactly what I talked about with someone on Skype idea, heavy doubts whether solo ads still work or that it only works as a business model, eg: selling solo ads to noobs.

      I was thinking of signing up for someone's coaching to make money by using paid traffic for $500,-, however he talked about it like his system was a little too easy which made me sceptical. Then he had some $100,- video training where he teached everything so decided to give it a shot.

      I didn't know how fast I had to ask for a refund, the only paid traffic he discussed were solo ads in the last 5 minutes of the video. Probably promoting the lists from his friends to squeeze a few extra bucks. For the rest it was some basic rambling about how to setup a squeeze page, like that's rocket science.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      You should expect exactly zero if you buy a solo ad from a solo ad provider.

      Solo ads used to work a couple years ago.

      Don't get me wrong, solo ads can work. It's just that most solo ad vendors
      just have lists of freebie seekers.

      Go ahead and test it yourself.

      Even if you find one solo ad provider that delivers excellent leads you will
      have a hard time trying to scale.
      People are making money with solo ads. They're just not buying from the same people everyrone else is buying from. In most cases the same pool of 300-500K leads are being passed around with services like Safe Swaps.

      However, if you offer something that is of value and do a good job of helping the prospect see the value in what you're offering, they will buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I heard good things about Bing so far.
    On keys like "make money online," you have to really fine tune your campaigns. It's easy to get a bunch of un-targeted traffic if you don't keep them tight. I've gotten some quality leads but don't expect an avalanche of subscribers.
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