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Over $15,349 spent on PPV - Best PPV Provider!

by celente
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Over $15,349 AUD spent on PPV in 2014 with very good ROI results.

But diversified this equally between several PPV providers for traffic, as PPV is working very well for us.

Everyone keeps asking, which is the best PPV for money. Here are our results, as a full time marketers I would like to give our stats on which is best.

BEST 3 TRAFFIC NETWORKS by results,

1) LEAD IMPACT (getting killer results)

2) MEDIA TRAFFIC (Still good, but not as good as 2012 - 2013)

3) TRAFFIC VANCE (For the serious marketer - have to hard core target but good)


oh and 50ONRED is really one that we are noting in 2014, is doing very well lately, and a horse that is now galloping up to be in check with the leaders, that is for sure. I think they are really getting their act together these guys, and the quality of the traffic seems to be better than 2013 that is for sure.

Direct CPV.....no good. Pick the three above and test stuff on 50ONRED, they are worth a test that is for sure.

Hope this helps guys.
#$15 #349 #ppv #provider #spent
  • Profile picture of the author bckk222
    Care to share any info on your offers?
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by bckk222 View Post

      Care to share any info on your offers?
      nope, but I will tell you by far our best niches. I do not mind giving away that info.

      In no particular order.

      IM, Dating, dieting, financial / forex / trading, self help.

      These are by far our biggest one.

      Believe it or not, actually going to be moving away from the IM stuff on PPV. But it still does well, with PPV and list building.

      Find the traffic first and then test, test, test, test......hidden gold mines out there with PPV. That is for sure.
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      • Profile picture of the author brentb
        I am doing best with TV, LI and MT have almost no traffic!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    You're having success with mediatraffic? I haven't had any luck with them in a while..
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  • Profile picture of the author Naveen K
    I tend to run few of my successful campaigns from other networks in mediatraffic, I very rarely get some good results. It is definitely not a place newbie can survive and from my experience, you can get profit once in a blue moon and that too doesn't stay for very long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    Can't believe MediaTraffic is above TrafficVance, but to each is own.

    Congrats on the success, and thanks for sharing the niches. I've never had success in the IM niche, but I've done little testing.

    I guess I will have to explore it more. Are you promoting WSO style products or more general Biz-Opp would you say?
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      Can't believe MediaTraffic is above TrafficVance, but to each is own.

      Congrats on the success, and thanks for sharing the niches. I've never had success in the IM niche, but I've done little testing.

      I guess I will have to explore it more. Are you promoting WSO style products or more general Biz-Opp would you say?
      Greedy thanks.

      I really think you have to choose niches carefully with Mediatraffic, but some niches really fail badly there I agree. And as I did say, as you can see my notes, this is dropping, the quality of traffic and subscribers is dropping suddenly for us too. We noted this back in 2012 and slowly slowly it is getting much worse. But again its to do with testing and your selection of niche.

      Its more about testing, I mean we test constantly its one of our main things we do in our office every SINGLE day. Its something that marketers do not do much off. They find a campaign that is ok, and go with that.

      Bulldust! Its a matter of sometimes changing a few words in our headlines, or better targeting greedy and we can find this can sometimes increase ROI by huge amounts or small increments. ITs about test test test!

      Collect your data, get your winners, then modifity them to see if you can beat them again. like I said the average marketer gets one campaign and gets is to being ok. We always get out winner ads, and try to make these until we have milked it every which way! PPV in this atmosphere is about TEST, TEST, TEST not just do 2 tests and pick a winning ad, like most PPV's probably do. That is not how you win this game. Not at all.

      We are moving away from IM> we have done quite well in this niche. And to answer your question we basically advertise both WSO style products and biz opps. probably more on the WSO style of things. But again it is all of testing headlines, colors, HAVE TO HAVE and angle or some sort of angle which can just work very well. Adult PPV's would understand this very well, although we do not do adult PPV.

      I could see alot of people FAIL at PPV, simple because they try one thing, and they think "what the hell this PPV chit and chit and stuff !!!" then they move on to the next shiney object....... yes you know!! :rolleyes:

      LOL. :rolleyes: **rolls eyes**

      this is a full time job remember. If we want to get results we realise we have to work hard and treat it like a business.

      The secret to PPV is to find the traffic first, and then build your offer around it and TEST the crap out of things from day one. If you are not testing from day one and gathering data, you are waisting your time!

      IN our opinoin you are paying good money for data, so you better make good use of that investment.

      I would say in testing 100 things on PPV we only find those killer ones, or things that get flipping insane ROI about 2 out of those 100 times.

      We find that 80 things will probably fail a bit. 20 things will work ok. 10 things will work really well. But 1 or 2 things will KILL IT.

      So there are our odds, about 1% or 2% of the time you really hit the nail on the head. So this data is basically sitting on our wall telling us to test the crap outta stuff more.

      Not sure if this helped, but as far as this world goes, its how we see it in our eyes.
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      • Profile picture of the author AffWiz
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        Greedy thanks.

        I really think you have to choose niches carefully with Mediatraffic, but some niches really fail badly there I agree. And as I did say, as you can see my notes, this is dropping, the quality of traffic and subscribers is dropping suddenly for us too. We noted this back in 2012 and slowly slowly it is getting much worse. But again its to do with testing and your selection of niche.

        Its more about testing, I mean we test constantly its one of our main things we do in our office every SINGLE day. Its something that marketers do not do much off. They find a campaign that is ok, and go with that.

        Bulldust! Its a matter of sometimes changing a few words in our headlines, or better targeting greedy and we can find this can sometimes increase ROI by huge amounts or small increments. ITs about test test test!

        Collect your data, get your winners, then modifity them to see if you can beat them again. like I said the average marketer gets one campaign and gets is to being ok. We always get out winner ads, and try to make these until we have milked it every which way! PPV in this atmosphere is about TEST, TEST, TEST not just do 2 tests and pick a winning ad, like most PPV's probably do. That is not how you win this game. Not at all.

        We are moving away from IM> we have done quite well in this niche. And to answer your question we basically advertise both WSO style products and biz opps. probably more on the WSO style of things. But again it is all of testing headlines, colors, HAVE TO HAVE and angle or some sort of angle which can just work very well. Adult PPV's would understand this very well, although we do not do adult PPV.

        I could see alot of people FAIL at PPV, simple because they try one thing, and they think "what the hell this PPV chit and chit and stuff !!!" then they move on to the next shiney object....... yes you know!! :rolleyes:

        LOL. :rolleyes: **rolls eyes**

        this is a full time job remember. If we want to get results we realise we have to work hard and treat it like a business.

        The secret to PPV is to find the traffic first, and then build your offer around it and TEST the crap out of things from day one. If you are not testing from day one and gathering data, you are waisting your time!

        IN our opinoin you are paying good money for data, so you better make good use of that investment.

        I would say in testing 100 things on PPV we only find those killer ones, or things that get flipping insane ROI about 2 out of those 100 times.

        We find that 80 things will probably fail a bit. 20 things will work ok. 10 things will work really well. But 1 or 2 things will KILL IT.

        So there are our odds, about 1% or 2% of the time you really hit the nail on the head. So this data is basically sitting on our wall telling us to test the crap outta stuff more.

        Not sure if this helped, but as far as this world goes, its how we see it in our eyes.
        good point!and i want to know what kind of offer work for you?

        Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    We are moving away from IM> we have done quite well in this niche. And to answer your question we basically advertise both WSO style products and biz opps. probably more on the WSO style of things. But again it is all of testing headlines, colors, HAVE TO HAVE and angle or some sort of angle which can just work very well. Adult PPV's would understand this very well, although we do not do adult PPV.
    Thanks for insights!
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  • Profile picture of the author lottorevenues
    Nice insights, PPC is interesting, do you drive traffic directcly to the offers landing page
    OR
    to your own landing page and then to theirs?

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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by lottorevenues View Post

      Nice insights, PPC is interesting, do you drive traffic directcly to the offers landing page
      OR
      to your own landing page and then to theirs?

      --Derrick
      In my own personal opinion and in testing, it has always been much more profitable no direct linking but sending traffic to 3 different headlined squeeze page with a triple benefit. Test, get your data from the three and use the one that converts the best.

      Your own landing page! :-) You'll be surprised at what sometimes a few words difference change on an add or headline can do to your overall optin rate.

      Normally what you think will work best, fails and what you think is a bad idea, normally ends up a killer one.

      It just proves we cannot know our customer and what they are thinking.

      1) Test 3-4 versions of a sqeeeze page

      2) Gather data

      3) spend a little money and get your numbers

      4) go with the your own squeeze page that generates more optins.

      5) test and see if you can beat that optin rate again.


      Again most people give up when they test just 1 thing.

      It sounds like a broken record to some, but if this is a business you need to spend money to know your data, and then go all out!

      In the long run and in our niches, its always been very profitable driving as much traffic as you can from all avenues, PPV, Articles, content curation, blog comments, facebook ads, BING, YAHOO, press release, buysellads etc straight to your optin page.

      We prefer PPV and paid traffic as it is instant and scalable. PPC is good also with some testing.

      Free traffic is ok as mentioned above. However we know 3 marketers killing it online and they each do NOT use free traffic. These guys have helped us and shown us what they are doing, and why they are successful. it is not SEO, or some Press release or facebook like strategy, these guys are all using PPV and PPC paid traffic and absolutely crushing it.

      If IM is just your hobby go with free traffic, you trade time for money.

      If IM is your fulltime business, there is no other way to get money rolling in fast other than paid traffic. Its how you can spend $1 and get $3 back. Even if you can double your money, say if the guy on the corner said pay him $1 and he will give you $2 back, how many times would you keep giving this guy your $1 right? You would keep doing it over and over and over again!
      This is how we look at paid traffic strategy!!!
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    do you have skype?
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  • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
    Just to add to this, I have spent roughly $24,000 in 2013 on PPV and I found these to be my best:

    1. Traffic Vance - definitely the best results, high quality traffic with much larger reach than any other PPV network, however my only issue is it seems very competitive and can easily become quite expensive.

    2. Lead Impact - I spent a lot less in LI than I did in TV but this was mainly due to reach, rather than quality.

    Overall, I look at Lead Impact being the equivalent of Bing in search advertising, it's a good network, quite cheap with good quality traffic but just hasn't got the reach so you always go back to Google which in this case is definitely Traffic Vance.
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  • Profile picture of the author eden asraf
    you use url or keywords? what is best?
    how much you earn profit from 15000 (It would be nice to know)
    i work with mediatraffic , Results:
    views: 608 (12.18$)
    leads : just 2 .
    its was just 2 campaign , one i use url and one i use Category Campaign.
    Category Campaign: views :528 nad leads :1
    url : view : 80 leads : 1
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  • Profile picture of the author wawaha
    hi
    what the sitescout is good our not
    what minimum Traffic Vance?
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    • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
      Originally Posted by wawaha View Post

      hi
      what the sitescout is good our not
      what minimum Traffic Vance?
      Sitescout is for media buys not the PPV thing. Both are different type of traffic sources.
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      • Profile picture of the author wawaha
        Originally Posted by nocturnal911 View Post

        Sitescout is for media buys not the PPV thing. Both are different type of traffic sources.
        ok thank
        what minimum deposit Traffic Vance?
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        • Profile picture of the author celente
          Originally Posted by wawaha View Post

          ok thank
          what minimum deposit Traffic Vance?
          Hi Wawaha,

          We like traffic vance, its probably not for the newbie, however once you get the hang of it, its very very good.

          The minimum deposit with TV, is going to set you back $1000 USD

          They do this to ensure you are serious marketer. But remember if done correctly $1000 can go along way.

          We still like TV, LI and 5OR all are sufficient to drive the traffic to your offers.
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          • Profile picture of the author wawaha
            Originally Posted by celente View Post

            Hi Wawaha,

            We like traffic vance, its probably not for the newbie, however once you get the hang of it, its very very good.

            The minimum deposit with TV, is going to set you back $1000 USD

            They do this to ensure you are serious marketer. But remember if done correctly $1000 can go along way.

            We still like TV, LI and 5OR all are sufficient to drive the traffic to your offers.
            1000 USD It's a large amount of say that there are 50onred 500usd minimum deposit very good
            I did not-tested
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            • Profile picture of the author celente
              Originally Posted by wawaha View Post

              1000 USD It's a large amount of say that there are 50onred 500usd minimum deposit very good
              I did not-tested
              wawa, Both of these are good. I would say TV is better = for $1000

              but 50onred, they are no shriking violet either = $500

              I actually use both. TV is better, for quality. However if 50ored keep up their work, they will soon catch up very fast! Time is off the essence for them. And I hear there are BIG things coming for 50onred, so we shall see. I guess what I am saying is we get the best results using both of these.

              if you are worried about money you could try 50onred first, as its cheaper! $500 initial deposit, but I must tell you, I have been marketing for several years, and GOOD QUALITY traffic costs more, and usually requires you to deposit more as a new user.

              Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Irn7997
    Originally Posted by celente View Post

    Over $15,349 AUD spent on PPV in 2014 with very good ROI results.

    But diversified this equally between several PPV providers for traffic, as PPV is working very well for us.

    Everyone keeps asking, which is the best PPV for money. Here are our results, as a full time marketers I would like to give our stats on which is best.

    BEST 3 TRAFFIC NETWORKS by results,

    1) LEAD IMPACT (getting killer results)

    2) MEDIA TRAFFIC (Still good, but not as good as 2012 - 2013)

    3) TRAFFIC VANCE (For the serious marketer - have to hard core target but good)


    oh and 50ONRED is really one that we are noting in 2014, is doing very well lately, and a horse that is now galloping up to be in check with the leaders, that is for sure. I think they are really getting their act together these guys, and the quality of the traffic seems to be better than 2013 that is for sure.

    Direct CPV.....no good. Pick the three above and test stuff on 50ONRED, they are worth a test that is for sure.

    Hope this helps guys.
    Hi I'm confused with lead impact done all the long tailed keywords for my site waited to be approved and never got approved? Any ideas why?
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  • Profile picture of the author BruceWill
    Hi guys
    50onRed seems require a photo ID or passport to be get in now, Anybody knows does 50 accept paypal funding?
    Thanks

    Originally Posted by celente View Post

    Over $15,349 AUD spent on PPV in 2014 with very good ROI results.

    But diversified this equally between several PPV providers for traffic, as PPV is working very well for us.

    Everyone keeps asking, which is the best PPV for money. Here are our results, as a full time marketers I would like to give our stats on which is best.

    BEST 3 TRAFFIC NETWORKS by results,

    1) LEAD IMPACT (getting killer results)

    2) MEDIA TRAFFIC (Still good, but not as good as 2012 - 2013)

    3) TRAFFIC VANCE (For the serious marketer - have to hard core target but good)


    oh and 50ONRED is really one that we are noting in 2014, is doing very well lately, and a horse that is now galloping up to be in check with the leaders, that is for sure. I think they are really getting their act together these guys, and the quality of the traffic seems to be better than 2013 that is for sure.

    Direct CPV.....no good. Pick the three above and test stuff on 50ONRED, they are worth a test that is for sure.

    Hope this helps guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author magdag4321
    lead impact sucks real bad now with their destructive/greedy rules, and poor traffic as the day goes by, li good days are long gone.
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  • Profile picture of the author BradleyMcClellan
    that's some really good insights, thanks for the share..
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  • Profile picture of the author richaado
    Thanks for your topic. I have been trying to find some websites for traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author sree94
    I've also had good success lately with a campaign on Bevo Media's PPV platform
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  • Profile picture of the author FrancisLymon1986
    wow, got to learn something new today, thanks for sharing! Got to start doing some ppv!
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  • Profile picture of the author abdullaadeeb
    Thanks for sharing. I will try them.
    Regards.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bevo Troy
    Yes, Bevo has recently launched a PPV channel as well available at our ad exchange (The Bevo Media Exchange - The Performance Marketing Exchange For Affiliate Marketing). We have been pretty low key with marketing thus far, so lots of unsaturated traffic! If you need any help, feel free to reach out!
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesBarefield
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    wow, just like others said, this isn't the traffic source I am most ecstatic about normally! would have to give it a try..
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