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Old 07-19-2009, 05:08 AM   #1
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I read that:
  1. the total amount of PR that a domain has is proportional to the number of pages in the domain.
  2. The PR of a particular page is reduced by the number of outgoing links it has.
So it seems to me that if you want the maximum PR on your sales page, then that page should have the minimum of outgoing links.

I had a dozen or so outgoing links on my home page, but have now made a graphic, which pictures those links, and hyperlinked the graphic to another page which has working links within it.

See the bottom of the page at http://www.seviourbooks

Any Goobers amongst us to tell me whether this is a good idea or not?

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Old 07-19-2009, 05:18 AM   #2
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put it this way, if you're linking out to an authority site do you really thing google would reduce your ranking power? You are providing a great resource to your visitors so you should be rewarded.
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:25 AM   #3
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Hmmmm.... interesting.

But I wonder, if Goog likes to see things like Privacy, TOS, Contact etcc.... on a site then they probably like those to be on the home page.

I'm wondering if one of the bazillion things they use to rank a site is checking for links to these on the home page? So, maybe doing this actually gives you some minus points?

I'm just thinking out loud - got no idea really in if that would be a plus or minus for the site. I'm sure some folks who know more than me will weigh in!

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Thanks for the reply; I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean. Could you please tell me whether the idea I have described makes sense to you or not?

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Old 07-19-2009, 05:31 AM   #5
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Thanks Lee,

It didn't occur to me that I might be heading for a penalty by taking off 'contact', 'privacy' and so on. Of course I could put them back on again and bunch up the other links into a graphic. I'm going to wait for a while to see if either another guru can give me an authoritive answer or until I see some movement in the SERPs.

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Quote:I read that:

1. the total amount of PR that a domain has is proportional to the number of pages in the domain.
2. The PR of a particular page is reduced by the number of outgoing links it has.
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There's been a lot of misconceptions and one of the most often heard ones is this:

“The more I will have links on my page, the more I will lose authority!”

I invited Nicolas Prudhon, PhD a professional SEO strategist, as well as published author to guest post on my blog and he has this to say:

"Wrong! Your page authority level is defined by the incoming links, not the outgoing links, so regardless of whether you don’t have links on your page or if you have 100 of them, your page authority will remain the same. What will be affected however is the amount of authority this page can transmit onto other pages"

Feel free to read what else he has to say in a recent guest post:

Don't Worry About The “NoFollow” Update

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Old 07-19-2009, 06:13 AM   #7
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Hi Peter Lee,

Thank you for your comment. I have reposted my question on Nicholas Prudhon's blog, to see what he thinks about my idea.

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Old 07-19-2009, 06:14 AM   #8
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Thanks Peter - that was very enlightening. I also always thought the amount of outgoing links affected the authority - now I have learned something new today!

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Hi Robert,

You're welcome. It's always a learning experience for me too when it comes to SEO and we do need to keep abreast of the changes made by Google.

Do check up on my blog when Nicolas replies to you in a day or two. Oh BTW this is his 3rd guest post on SEO topic on my blog. Don't forget to read his other 2 posts.

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Thank you for your comment. I have reposted my question on Nicholas Prudhon's blog, to see what he thinks about my idea.

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Old 07-19-2009, 07:30 AM   #10
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Hi Lee,

You're welcome. Glad you learned something new today. Well we live to learn

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Thanks Peter - that was very enlightening. I also always thought the amount of outgoing links affected the authority - now I have learned something new today!

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but have now made a graphic, which pictures those links, and hyperlinked the graphic to another page which has working links within it.
Why not just use a no follow instead of a picture??

And from what I've heard from Andy Jenkins, btw I have no proof to back this up nor deny it, outgoing links WILL lower the PR. So it is best to use no follow on pages that you want to get ranked for, aka your money making pages.

Again, I have no proof to validate or deny this claim. But as far as I know, Andy knows what he is talking about.
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Thanks dv8, it's obvious, but somehow I overlooked it.

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Hi Robert,

Just letting you know that Nicolas has replied your question to him. Take a look.

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Outgoing links to high quality sites can increase your HUB score. There's two types of sites Google prefers: Authority and HUB sites.

Think of it this way, if linking to bad neighborhoods is bad, then we can assume that linking to good neighborhoods is likely to be good.

And let's not confuse "authority" and "PR". The PR of a page is not affected by outgoing links. However, the PR for those outgoing links is divided by the number of links on the page.

For example, if a PR5 page has 10 links, that PR is divided amoung the 10 pages linked to. However, the PR5 of the page is not affected whether there's 10 links or 1000...Only how the PR is passed on.

There's a technique called "PR sculpting" where you use nofollow strategically on your own site to concentrate the PR on your money pages. However, it's reported that very recently Google started to crack down on sites that attempt to manipulate PR via PR sculpting.

For more on hub and authority sites, start your research here:
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For more on PR sculpting:
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