Recommended rate of backlink building?

[falcon_warrior]

Hey Warriors

I heard that building too many backlinks in a very short period of time is actually bad? Can someone explain to me this, and what is the recommended rate of backlinking at max, like maximum how many backlinks a day? Thanks for any help!



Nicholas C.

[Peter Adamson]

No one can tell you exactly how many but slow is good. I recommend to my users to stay at 3 backlinks a day for a specific target url. Of course this can include articles that link to your site as well as pages on your site. If you do indirect linking this way, you can easily do 10-15 links a day, as long as you don't make too many links at once to the same url.

Also you must not stop. Most people are impatient and use some blaster software to get 20,000 bookmarks and then stop. This is a bad idea. Just do what organic links would do. If your site is getting 5 links a day, then why would this stop suddenly? This is a clue to Google that the links are not natural.

[articlemaster]

Originally Posted by Peter Adamson

No one can tell you exactly how many but slow is good. I recommend to my users to stay at 3 backlinks a day for a specific target url. Of course this can include articles that link to your site as well as pages on your site. If you do indirect linking this way, you can easily do 10-15 links a day, as long as you don't make too many links at once to the same url.

Also you must not stop. Most people are impatient and use some blaster software to get 20,000 bookmarks and then stop. This is a bad idea. Just do what organic links would do. If your site is getting 5 links a day, then why would this stop suddenly? This is a clue to Google that the links are not natural.

I really appreciate for whatever you have said. Slow and steady BL building is much fruitful. If you are looking for real success for a long run then just have patience and work slowly. The exact no is not known but i dont go beyond 18.

[cashcow]

Also you must not stop. Most people are impatient and use some blaster software to get 20,000 bookmarks and then stop. This is a bad idea. Just do what organic links would do. If your site is getting 5 links a day, then why would this stop suddenly? This is a clue to Google that the links are not natural.

I think I have been hurt by this in the past. I like to use a "set and forget" approach so a lot of times I'll do a bunch of backlinking for a while and then move on. I haven't done any specific tests, but my feeling is that this has hurt me.

Now, I try to keep the linking steady which , BTW, The Link Juicer in Peter's Sig is great for - It's done wonders for some of my pages that were buried and also for some of my new sites. Steady backlinking that you can "set and forget" - that's my kind of tool! (Peter didn't tell me to say this - I don't even know him!)

Lee

[4morereferrals]

No to pick a fight or anything ... but ...

Totally disagree with paragraph #1. 3 backlinks max a day? We are trying to rank for something in THIS LIFETIME right?

Brand new domain < 90 days old - threw over 650 backlinks at it in less than 90 days - 585-600 stuck ... PR2 in 45 days. Did the linking in bi-weekly chunks approx 100-200 per sitting. Google Bot and SLERP wont see all the links you place in a day - at the same time or even in the same week. Rock out with your link out!

As to paragraph #2 - in agree with never stopping. Im not convinced there is a "natural" or for that matter "un-natural" link pattern the algo is looking for.

Originally Posted by Peter Adamson

No one can tell you exactly how many but slow is good. I recommend to my users to stay at 3 backlinks a day for a specific target url. Of course this can include articles that link to your site as well as pages on your site. If you do indirect linking this way, you can easily do 10-15 links a day, as long as you don't make too many links at once to the same url.

Also you must not stop. Most people are impatient and use some blaster software to get 20,000 bookmarks and then stop. This is a bad idea. Just do what organic links would do. If your site is getting 5 links a day, then why would this stop suddenly? This is a clue to Google that the links are not natural.

[dburk]

Hi Nicholas,

You can go as fast as humanly possible, just keep you backlinks relevant and merit based and you will never see a penalty.

[ChrisBa]

Originally Posted by Peter Adamson

No one can tell you exactly how many but slow is good. I recommend to my users to stay at 3 backlinks a day for a specific target url. Of course this can include articles that link to your site as well as pages on your site. If you do indirect linking this way, you can easily do 10-15 links a day, as long as you don't make too many links at once to the same url.

Also you must not stop. Most people are impatient and use some blaster software to get 20,000 bookmarks and then stop. This is a bad idea. Just do what organic links would do. If your site is getting 5 links a day, then why would this stop suddenly? This is a clue to Google that the links are not natural.

I agree with Peter.. sometimes I goto 20-30, but never really much over.. I don't automate it either, I do it all manually..

[nossie]

the key is to keep your backlinks consistent. No strange spikes or very low quality links and you will never see any penalty.

[kkchoon]

Not sure about consistency and "too many links" concept...

Think about this: even you do 2000 links in a day, Google won't find all in a day, may be 2 to 3 days....

if you think 2000 links a day will get you in trouble, think again. When Micheal Jackson dies, how many links a day do you think those News site / blog will get ????

All you need is high PR links, at least out of those 2000 links, you get 1000 PR 4 or about links, I think that should be OK.

The most links a day I did is about 200 to 300, my site still solid!!!!

[stevendennis]

you must crete backlinks from site relevant to your site also wait for 2-3 months to get backlinks from social bookmark or google will think that as spamming and your site will get banned for using black hat methods

[dmderoeck]

Originally Posted by nossie

the key is to keep your backlinks consistent. No strange spikes or very low quality links and you will never see any penalty.

I agree with this method as well. The slow but steady drip method is, IMO, the best long term strategy - pick a pace and stick to it. I like the Article Marketing Automation method and thinking about augmenting it with Link Juice, it seems like a compatible fit - has anyone tried this?

[sck4784]

I would suggest you to keep relevancy & quality in your building strategy. The number doesn't count, quality & relevancy is very important for link exchange. If you get 10 non index or 0 PR link in a single day & in other side if you get 2 indexed or some PR link in a single day then defiantly i would suggest 2 indexed/PR link is better than 10 non-indexed or non PR link.

So what i am saying we need to focus on quality & relevancy in getting back links.

[itcoll]

I have failed too much in link building because i was just impatient - so then i changed my strategy.I concentrated more on the content rather than backlinks and once it becomes old i target getting backlinks.But there is no need to wait for a long time before doing link building - just make sure that you do not use the same anchor text every where [especially if you target a 4 word phrase and you place those words exactly in all the anchrs - your site will be murdered by google ]

[Solidsnake]

Originally Posted by falcon_warrior

Hey Warriors

I heard that building too many backlinks in a very short period of time is actually bad? Can someone explain to me this, and what is the recommended rate of backlinking at max, like maximum how many backlinks a day? Thanks for any help!



Nicholas C.

It could be bad or good depending on how you build backlinks...

I don't see any problem submitting your site to 1,000 directories in a day for most of these directories list your site in a span of 6 months...

[Mike Calvert]

I just don't understand the logic behind saying that Google will de-index your page or website because of getting too many backlinks, too quickly. Following that logic, wouldn't Google then de-index every new hot topic news story or blog post?

I'm wondering if the sites that were de-indexed had been dropped for some reason other than rate and amount of backlinking.

Any thoughts?

Mike

[dotcompals]

Originally Posted by Mike Calvert

I just don't understand the logic behind saying that Google will de-index your page or website because of getting too many backlinks, too quickly. Following that logic, wouldn't Google then de-index every new hot topic news story or blog post?

I'm wondering if the sites that were de-indexed had been dropped for some reason other than rate and amount of backlinking.

Any thoughts?

Mike

Yes, how will google react to a breaking news link - like " michael jackson is no more " . It will naturally attain lots n lots of backlinks in a matter of minutes.

[dburk]

Originally Posted by Mike Calvert

I just don't understand the logic behind saying that Google will de-index your page or website because of getting too many backlinks, too quickly. Following that logic, wouldn't Google then de-index every new hot topic news story or blog post?

I'm wondering if the sites that were de-indexed had been dropped for some reason other than rate and amount of backlinking.

Any thoughts?

Mike

Originally Posted by dotcompals

Yes, how will google react to a breaking news link - like " michael jackson is no more " . It will naturally attain lots n lots of backlinks in a matter of minutes.

Hi Warriors,

When a website garners a large number backlinks suddenly, it may trigger a flag for review. If during the review the backlinks are deemed spamdexing then a devaluing of those links are likely to occur.

Build relevant merit based links and you have no worries.

[dlnunez]

Think of how those links might be added naturally - 1 or two a day - maybe skip a day or two and add 3 to 5 more etc. just a thought.

[Ehsan_am]

Originally Posted by Mike Calvert

I just don't understand the logic behind saying that Google will de-index your page or website because of getting too many backlinks, too quickly. Following that logic, wouldn't Google then de-index every new hot topic news story or blog post?

I'm wondering if the sites that were de-indexed had been dropped for some reason other than rate and amount of backlinking.

Any thoughts?

Mike

I think that you are omitting the fact that most of the sites that get a huge number backlinks for a hot topic are very established sites already.

[rsteadm2]

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

No to pick a fight or anything ... but ...

Totally disagree with paragraph #1. 3 backlinks max a day? We are trying to rank for something in THIS LIFETIME right?

Brand new domain < 90 days old - threw over 650 backlinks at it in less than 90 days - 585-600 stuck ... PR2 in 45 days. Did the linking in bi-weekly chunks approx 100-200 per sitting. Google Bot and SLERP wont see all the links you place in a day - at the same time or even in the same week. Rock out with your link out!

As to paragraph #2 - in agree with never stopping. Im not convinced there is a "natural" or for that matter "un-natural" link pattern the algo is looking for.

I agree with you.

I had asked this similar question about a week ago and never got a definitive test that anyone had completed. Building buckets of links at a time is the way that I have always done it, and never had any problem.

I usually purchase in 100-300 link increments, spread over 2-3 weeks. Meaning they will submit 1/2 or 1/3 per week for the next 2 or 3 weeks.

It's cheap, outsource it and don't be afraid to add some real quantity with quality of course.

[kkchoon]

If building link too fast will get your site filtered, I would have done it to many competitors' site, and in fact I did!

The result - they end up out ranked me! another example of evil falls...!

If anyone did filtered by Google, please tell me how, I want to nuke my competitors...