Ask the SEO Guy Anything!

[Liam Hamer]

Hi Terry, this is a very informative thread and it's very generous of you to share your knowledge in this way

My question is:-

How does the Bing algorithm differ from that of Google? I have a site in a pretty competitive niche that is number 6 in Bing, but number 57 in Google, This site is a little over 2 months old. Also, if I can rank in the top 10 in Bing, is this a good indication that I can do the same in Google if I keep working at building backlinks and such?

Many thanks

[LookItsMeTerryG]

Rapidgrowth - For the most part, I'd agree with the top 3. However, I can't stress enough the importance of having keywords and good targeted content on your site. Link building is a major factor though, for sure.

TheDebtEliminator - In regards to the Wordpress idea, remember, less is often more in terms of inbound links from the same domain. By setting up one blog and linking to your "money site" a bunch of times you're really not doing much. A better idea would be to setup several wordpress blogs hosted on separate servers with fresh ips and do a blog post on each with a link. IP diverse backlinks are the goal. In regards to spreading out links to internal pages, I like to do about 30% homepage, 70% internal.


seobeginner - You're definitely sending a spam signal to Google with this one. I don't think you'll be penalized, but rather the links aren't going to do as much as you thought. Also, keep in mind that a pr7 site you setup a profile on isn't a PR7 link... your new profile is a PR0 off of a PR7 domain.

waqyum - Why close one? Yeah, it's against TOS I know, but if you tell them, imho you'll be running the risk of them banning you... but again, if you don't tell them you're still running that risk. I personally like this approach of having more than 1 adsense account, it helps secure the income. If they don't share common personal info then you're probably fine. However, if you really do want to close it, just email them.

Paul Guilfoyle - I don't know anything about Keyword Elite. I do everything by hand or with tools I've had developed for my business. A note here: I'm currently setting up a membership site to allow use to my internal tools

MrEyeconic - Age is a good metric to use when evaluating a domain for purchase, however if the site hasn't been developed or is going to be changing radically... Google will reset it after the registration/hosting info changes. I like buying new domains with branding potential instead of keyword rich domains.

[ruch1v]

Hi Terry, i wanted to ask a bit about article marketing, what is the point of submitting tons of articles to ezinearticles.com if you are only really going to get 1 backlink from them? i know you can get others from people who decide to use your article etc but is there anything else? am i missing something here?


thanks

[ruch1v]

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

seobeginner - You're definitely sending a spam signal to Google with this one. I don't think you'll be penalized, but rather the links aren't going to do as much as you thought. Also, keep in mind that a pr7 site you setup a profile on isn't a PR7 link... your new profile is a PR0 off of a PR7 domain.

so does this actually give you any of the PR7 juice?

[STKING]

How long does it take for google to index backlinks and alter your search results?
Everytime I start building backlinks, I get the google dance...bumped backwards for a while...how can I avoid that?

[imvaltaylor]

ok Terry G , I'm not a warrior but I am new to this site as of today and I am in training so please don't get upset with the simplicity of my question related to this post. I want to do this. I want to market my business locally and and get ranked on the 1st page of google. if I understand this correctly I need to set up subdomains for the surrounding cities like houston.mysite.com and the cities surrounding houston as subdomain and just market the same site, include google maps and images? and of course get the right keywords. I am understanfing you? Val

[edpudol1973]

Hi Terry,

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us...

My question is:

If back link is the major factor in positioning from SERP , why that my site can't out rank sites that have lower back link than my site. For example the top 10 sites in the niche I am targeting only have 10 - 25 back links according to Yahoo explorer and google link: command, while my site have more than 500 back links according to yahoo and google also.

Any Idea why this happened? That sites with lower backlinks is positioned higher than a site more links?

[tmtech]

Is it worthwhile to pay a company to create backlinks for your site? I know this can be done yourself, but it's very time consuming. I'm just wondering if this is a good idea.

[caroline42]

I have a problem with the rankings for a German client with .de sites. He ordered 3 one word ST for 3 different URLs. I managed to get him for all his desires #1 - 3 rankings within about 3 weeks on g.com, g.co.uk, g.es and g.de looking at the rankings from outside Germany. For all extensions we see the same rankings (fine so far) BUT on g.de searching from Germany (that is what really is wanted) the results are not the desired/same. What need I to do to acheive the same results on g.de searching IN Germany?

[actionplanbiz]

i dont know if your asked this yet but.

does page rank really matter? if so how?

[debbie88]

Hi there SEO Guy. This is an education all in one classroom. I bet I couldn't find all of this in one ebook. Thanks muchly.

All I hear is, ya, just build some back links and I'll be on page one in a jiffy. I'm sick of hearing it. Get 100's of them easily I'm told, and I'll rank well and beat out the other sites.

Can you please tell me how to build back links, or maybe point me towards a post or article explaining how to build back links please so I can learn what it is all about?

Thanks so much

Debbie

[kumar]

Hi Terry,

What do you feel about adding certain words with your keywords to find domain names when your choice of domain names are taken? Some of these words could be:

-secrets
-tips
-hq
-hub
-elite
-guy/girl
-review

What affect does adding any of these words at the start or end of your keyword rich domain name have, from an SEO perspective? As for me, the domain of my choice is taken but it is available with 'hq' and 'hub'. Should I go for one of them?

[John W.G.]

What an awesome thread Terry.

Here's my question Terry: Will using .shtml file extensions over .html hurt my rankings?

I've always had great success with just using .html but I'm building a new retail website
that's going to have a ton of pages and I know there will be many times where I'll want to make changes to hundreds of pages so I need to take advantage of SSI.

But I can't use SSI unless I use .shtml extensions.

Thanks,
John

[Steve23]

I have a 3-page mini CPA review blog that I setup just over a month ago. It it entirely focused around a product name. Conversions were good and the blog made about $500 this month. For link building, I outsourced 150 high PR links between 3 of the pages, built at around 20 total links on any given day. I also, last week, bought a WSO offered by a respected warrior duo that promised to bring many links. The site was in the top 5 for the product name for at least a few weeks, rising as high as #2 in the past week. Then, all of a sudden, this morning it was gone from Google's index. What are the chances it will come back and is there anything I can do to help it along?

Thanks.

S.

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by Steve23

I have a 3-page mini CPA review blog that I setup just over a month ago. It it entirely focused around a product name. Conversions were good and the blog made about $500 this month. For link building, I outsourced 150 high PR links between 3 of the pages, built at around 20 total links on any given day. I also, last week, bought a WSO offered by a respected warrior duo that promised to bring many links. The site was in the top 5 for the product name for at least a few weeks, rising as high as #2 in the past week. Then, all of a sudden, this morning it was gone from Google's index. What are the chances it will come back and is there anything I can do to help it along?

Thanks.

S.

Steve, only time will tell.

There are a number of reasons for this to occur, but the two most likely are:

1) Google looks for consistency in the link growth, and if your site has had very little link growth until this recent event, then it's likely Google considers this spamming and has punished you. If this is the case, you can either stop any further link building, or continue with the link building at this level (to convince Google this is normal). I would opt for the former, since you had been at a good position. Eventually you should return (could take weeks).

2) Google has made a change to its algorithm and the initial impact is that everyone gets reordered. If so, you should return to your position if the change does not impact your ranking specifically.

A rule of thumb for SEO is: do link building in moderation. Don't create sudden events that will cause Google to think your spamming. As long as everything continues as in the past (including high link growth), Google will consider everything normal.

Also, if I'm on the first page of the SERP, I would only add content to the site, and the occasional article submission for the new content. Adding pages and content provide an opportunity to increase keywords, which will reduce fluctuations in traffic.

Hope this helps.

[zachary0611]

What would you recommend doing to get blogspot (blogger.com) blogs ranked on google trends search terms?

[jazbo]

File extensions have absolutely no effect on SEO - why would they

Originally Posted by John W.G.

What an awesome thread Terry.

Here's my question Terry: Will using .shtml file extensions over .html hurt my rankings?

I've always had great success with just using .html but I'm building a new retail website
that's going to have a ton of pages and I know there will be many times where I'll want to make changes to hundreds of pages so I need to take advantage of SSI.

But I can't use SSI unless I use .shtml extensions.

Thanks,
John

[LookItsMeTerryG]

ruch1v - When I do article marketing I'm not looking for a ton of backlinks to my main site. I'm looking to actually rank the article I submitted for a query that I already rank my main site for.

ruch1v - No, in most cases you're not getting PR7 "juice". Most CMS's that allow this profile link dropping nofollow the link to user profiles first, and second the profile itself is often so far into the site (home > forums > userlist > page 1 > page 2 > page 3 > my profile), etc.. you're not getting a ton of benefit here.

STKING - You can often avoid the initial drop by varying your anchor text and making sure to maintain a steady link velocity.

imvaltaylor - Google images doesn't help much for local search. Google maps is a must. Subdomains aren't the best idea.. you're going to have a hard time producing unique content for each surrounding city. I'd just engage in a well thought out campaign and really focus on site structure and content.

edpudol1973 - You're assuming that the number of backlinks is the metric that is used.. not correct. It's more likely they're ranked according to quality of backlinks.. which is why I have said at least 50 times in this thread to focus on quality, trust and authority before raw numbers.

tmtech - If SEO isn't your specialty or you don't have enough time then sure, I'd hire it out.

caroline42 - I work with .de a lot. It sounds like you're not focusing on link popularity within .de sites.

[edpudol1973]

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

edpudol1973 - You're assuming that the number of backlinks is the metric that is used.. not correct. It's more likely they're ranked according to quality of backlinks.. which is why I have said at least 50 times in this thread to focus on quality, trust and authority before raw numbers.

Terry thanks for the reply and I fully understand that, I check the 3 top sites in my niche and most of their back links are from social bookmarking, and blogspot blog, my sites back links are also from SB, authority sites (Angela Edwards list), and free blogs back link.

[LookItsMeTerryG]

actionplanbiz - Pagerank doesn't matter in terms of ranking, but it still has it's place in evaluation and site health analysis.

debbie88 - I've got tons of info on this on my blog: http://www.terrygodier.com browse around a bit there and you'll find some resources.

kumar - No effect in terms of SEO, and to answer the first question, as I've said - I buy domains based on branding potential, not SEO.

John W.G. - Nope. I've got larger clients that are using .shtml without issue. You should be just fine here. Also, see my notes below on the comment from jazbo.

Steve23 - Without looking further into your site I can't really say. However, I wouldn't worry for at least 7-10 days... big fluctuations like that are normal.

zachary0611 - I'd head over to BHW and see what they're doing . For real though, treat it like a regular site.

jazbo - Hmm, don't be so quick to draw. I dare you to go rank me a .flv or .swf. Also, it's widely known that its a terrible idea to use numerical file extensions, (google around about the web 2.0 fiasco with SEOmoz where they ended the url in .0 and it was removed).

[LookItsMeTerryG]

Originally Posted by edpudol1973

Terry thanks for the reply and I fully understand that, I check the 3 top sites in my niche and most of their back links are from social bookmarking, and blogspot blog, my sites back links are also from SB, authority sites (Angela Edwards list), and free blogs back link.

Those aren't high quality backlinks. The rule of thumb here is "if anyone get the link for free, it's not worth much". Links given on the basis of merit are worth much more. However, if your competitors are beating you, it's possible the antiquity of their backlinks are giving them an edge on you or their sites have superior onsite optimization.

[TheDebtEliminator]

Hello Terry,

I have a choice Plan-A of using a 301 transfer of my PR4 Domain direct to my 6-page money site

Plan-B setting up a WordPress blog and linking it to my money site.


Which way gets me the most link juice Plan-A of Plan-B?


Plus ... Which way will keep in good graces with G?


Or is Plan-A of Plan-B both acceptable?

I just am not sure on the best course of action in this situation.


Thank You for Your Very Valuable Advise given to this Forum


Best Regards

[caroline42]

Thanks Terry, I thought exacly the same but was not sure. Another question is how to achieve .de links.
I have been looking around and it looks like even more time consuming and difficult to find good (reasonable would be enough) German sites to get links from them, than English or US domains. Most look just like "a piece of crap" concerning content, site optimization and PR. Directories are there but I fear they won't help much.

Anyway, thanks again.

[xpyda91]

Getting to the top page of google, yahoo and msn is actually not a big thing, it is just that 95% of most internet marketers don't just follow simple rules...the search engines robot don't give preferential treatments, they go for the site that is well indexed, search engine ready and well organised with updating cotents.

[edpudol1973]

Hi Terry,

Sorry for being pain on your neck One more question, when you said "Links given on the basis of merit are worth much more", what does this mean? Does this mean that back link from those free sites like bookmarking sites, authority sites (angela edwards list), and article directory sites are less juicy.

If this is true, what would be the best source of back link? Do we need to buy back link from those blog networks? Review sites?

I really appreciate with all your answers and thanks in advance

[erikorganic]

How accurate do you consider google analytics data? Is it 100% accurate, or does google (for example) lie about traffic referred from Bing and Yahoo?

[jazbo]

Hi Terry

I was talking standard extensions, as was the person who asked ;-)


jazbo - Hmm, don't be so quick to draw. I dare you to go rank me a .flv or .swf. Also, it's widely known that its a terrible idea to use numerical file extensions, (google around about the web 2.0 fiasco with SEOmoz where they ended the url in .0 and it was removed).[/QUOTE]

[debbie88]

Thanks SEO Guy for the link building information. I appreciate it.

Debbie

[caroline42]

Originally Posted by xpyda91

Getting to the top page of google, yahoo and msn is actually not a big thing, it is just that 95% of most internet marketers don't just follow simple rules...the search engines robot don't give preferential treatments, they go for the site that is well indexed, search engine ready and well organised with updating cotents.

If it's that easy, I suppose you are able to rank first page on Yahoo for "web hosting" in no time? Can you help me with that please?

[Buhry]

1. Lets say i'm trying to take down the number 1 site for a specific keyword in a niche. The number one page does not look that impressive; according to market samurai it is 5 years old, has a PR of 2, and 160 incoming links to the domain, 132 to the main page. Ran it thorugh majestic seo, which says that the domain has 1300 backlinks and 19 indexed pages.

Ran a PR analysis on the 160 backlinks in MS, most were pr 0 and I don't think anyone were higher than pr 3. They used the anchor text a few times but nothing too major.

All in all I'm thinking this does not look too difficoult. What is your take based on these data?

2. If you were to name 5 steps you would go through for building links to a new site, what would they be? Understand if you don't want to tell, but would be good to hear your say.

3. What do you think of this strategy;
- create 10-15 web 2.0 properties. Link them together with random interlinking, have each site point back to your main page with anchor text.
-Target each property for some low competition keyword in your niche with a couple of 1000 searches per month(optimize title, blog name etc).
- add a few posts of good content to each property, maybe a video etc
- build many backlinks to the properties (bookmarking, automated stuff)

Then I would replicate the process for deeper pages.

The purpose of this would be to get good contextually relevant backlinks (by buildiing linkjuice and PR for the individual properties) and maybe funnel some traffic by ranking for long tails. Do you think this would be effective as part of a larger overall strategy?

My overall plan would be to submit some articles to quality directories, try to create a bunch of web 2.0 hubs and make those sort of authoritive, video submissions, submission to some quality directories, high pr blog commenting, and some quality social bookmarking. I would point links to the deeper pages of my domain as well as the main page. Finally, I would spread this stuff out over time. Oh, and I would also try to find the competitors best backlinks and replicate those. =)

I would try to create good, linkworthy content on the site itself, and I would try to create more pages than the current leader to get leverage from internal linking.

Does my strategy sound decent? Do you have anything to add? Sorry about the long post, just not every day you get to ask someone who seems like they actually have a clue what they are doing :P

[imvaltaylor]

Thanks so much for your reply. The google map verification PIN issue and thier lack of customer support seems to be a Huge problem for small busineses trying to creat emaps. I've only found one person able to get around it and he works for a company that submit all thier business listing to google and they take care of the verification process for them. Are you aware of anyway to get around this verification issue.?I've search all throughout google and I just see a bunch of PO business owners. Thanks again.

[tonykoay2002]

Terry,

I had heard my talk about auto blog, where we don't need to writing anything, and it will auto post what you think about this?

can auto blog rank in the google.com?

Thank for the advice.

[chini]

Thanks for offering your seo expertise. I have 1 question.

Is it better from a speed perspective (getting ranked quicker for a keyword) to buy a older site, in a niche you want to rank in, which has age, existing back links, PR, etc.

In comparison to creating a brand new site from scratch?

If you have multiple of high quality links (PR1+) to link to them?

Cheers.

[Lorens]

Terry, what can you tell us about your time managment? Do you work on multiple projects at the same time? I have more than 30 websites and find it very difficult to control them all. Sometimes I work on 5 projects at the same time because i do not have time to work on each project separately. And what about you?

[edpudol1973]

Another question :

Let's say I have 100 articles and submit them all to EZA, does the back link I get from these 100 articles provide 100 juicy and quality links or not that much because those links are from same IP address?

Does back link from 100 different article directories with different IP address is better than the back link we can get from EZA only with our 100 articles?

[2d0k]

Hi Terry,

Thanks for you very informative answers here.. we really appreciate it here..

I have a question: If you made any changes to indexed pages, like changing the title, meta tags or contents, do Google or any other search engines re-index these pages containing already the edited elements of the page or the search engines will just show the first indexed page and cached page when users make a search in the net for the specific pages?

If so for how long do the SE re-index these pages (the average period of time)?

Thank You.

[justinsane187]

can you plz help me with my site fedorfight.com. My visiters on webalizer is:

Month Daily Avg Monthly Totals Hits Files Pages Visits Sites KBytes Visits Pages Files Hits
Oct 2009 3861 2976 615 179 4021 1483843 5556 19095 92286 119693 Sep 2009 2393 2048 410 146 6168 1195278 4380 12303 61459 71798 Aug 2009 735 581 120 32 353 242304 1020 3736 18013 22812 Jul 2009 704 487 71 7 35 74076 82 784 5359 7747
Totals 2995501 11038 35918 177117 222050
and ive only made 3.50 on adsence!! I know my ads arnt placed right but is it really THAT important?

[writetale]

thanks, terry...so generous of you with your time and patience!!

question 1: xsitepro produces static websites. i thought blogs were much better, no?

question 2: linking is starting to drive me crazy. NOW i hear that you shouldn't do "agressive link building" to sub-pages because it brings rankings down across the entire site....is that true?

seems to me link building is pretty formulaic....why can't someone just design a GOOD map in terms of site structure?




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[Darrel Hawes]

Originally Posted by writetale

seems to me link building is pretty formulaic....why can't someone just design a GOOD map in terms of site structure?

Because the landscape keeps changing.

[js112]

yes, bing is easy to rank, but it is indexed by google slowly

[writetale]

Originally Posted by Darrel Hawes

Because the landscape keeps changing.

without question, darrel. (and what follows is NOT aimed at you in particular but a general query)

landing pages, affiliate money pages, review pages, and product pages etc., change slowly, relatively speaking. and their respective links should be able to be mapped out.

it should be simple to map out, for example:
backlink goes HERE with/without anchor text AND what kind of anchor text (yah, i've heard that's debatable)
one-way link goes HERE, but NOT HERE.
affiliate linking goes HERE, FROM HERE, TO HERE ONLY with THIS KIND of link (i've been told NOT to static link to an affiliate page that i didn't control using a dynamic link {javascript}, for example)

number of links, where they are placed, what kind of link--ALL of that should be able to be programmed, mapped out....kind of like a flow chart. done a lot of research and all i've got is total confusion.

DOES ANYONE GET WHAT I'M SAYING HERE??!

[Mattkau]

there has been some discussion here on google local listings optimisation, if you are doing this for clients (and making a business out of it) i would suggest a tool i have made ..

Map Ranks : SEO Maps, Google Business Listings you can use the large 'text area' to write a list of keywords (one on each line) so you may report on many more keywords, and surrounding suburbs

[Scott Million]

Have you dabbled in links from Podcasting sites? There are quite a lot of PR 4 - PR 8 sites that link to both your homepage and RSS feed. I just went through 10 out of a top 100 list and they were all dofollow as well, and the pages were all indexed in Google for the podcast submissions I looked at.

If you have, I'm wondering if there is a tool you can recommend, such as PromoSoft for software sites (which works great, by the way!)

[laurenceh]

Ok I know I shouldnt be getting too wrapped up with ranking but I have a site which has been targeting a keyword with only 170k competition (exact) for the term.

I have onsite SEO and been doing articles, bookmarking, linking etc but can't be found in the top 1000 on google or yahoo.

I know links take a while to seed but can there really be 1000 sites beating my seo work?

It's not a IM, or weightloss niche at all so not oober competitive.

Getting a little worried.

[LookItsMeTerryG]

TheDebtEliminator - I've already answered this and you've asked like 3 times, did you not get the answer?

caroline42 - Write .de targeted content.. I hate to say this but, if you're having this many problems with this tld, you might want to drop the client or refer them out to someone better suited.

edpudol1973 - Yes, that's exactly what that means. IMHO, those mass links are good for continued efforts after you've exhausted the authority/trusted backlinks available.

erikorganic - I consider it pretty accurate, but always install statcounter too (I like realtime stats, I'm impatient).

imvaltaylor - I do a lot of local stuff and I've never had an issue here... and man, I make up PO boxes and buy new phone lines with skype and all kinds of shady stuff - I know this doesn't answer your question... I just don't have any experience here.

tonykoay2002 - Can it rank? Yes. Would I do it? No. Too much info here for me to type a reply, but read on BHW (www.black hat world.com) and you'll see tons of people trying this to no avail.

chini - Yes, old site 100% of the time if its in the same niche.

Lorens - I'm still struggling with time management after all these years. I constantly take on too much work and my social life and sleep schedule suffer as a result. However, spreadsheets, daily lists of tasks, intelligent delegation and reliable employees/friends are essential.

edpudol1973 - 100 backlinks from different IP's would be superior, yes.

[LookItsMeTerryG]

2d0k - The SEs will reindex the content.. normally it takes 5-10 days, sometimes longer but normally less.

justinsane187 - I can't really make sense of those stats, can you post a screenshot? Also, looked at the site, the ad placement isn't that bad.

writetale - 1. It really depends on the goal of the site and the niche it's in. 2. It's not true that you shoulnd't focus on building internal links, but it is true you can hurt yourself if you're too aggressive.

Scott Million - Yep, I've promoted some podcasts and am aware of the boons of the niche. I can't really recommend any software though, I'm just a simple marketing guy

laurenceh - How old is the site? How long have you been at it?

[caroline42]

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

caroline42 - Write .de targeted content.. I hate to say this but, if you're having this many problems with this tld, you might want to drop the client or refer them out to someone better suited.

Thanks Terry, appreciate your advice but I never drop a client before I got his problems solved (don't want to comment on the last part of your advice ). As far as I can see my latest tasks are slowly starting to show results.

[RockStarMarketing]

Hey There Terry G!

I have been DOMINATING the local map listings for over a yeah in PHX for a few geo-modified key terms. Its been my biggest money maker. As of yesterday......NADA!!!!

All but a few are nowhere to be found? They are stilllisted as active in my local business center backend - but now....PHOOEY!~

Any ide whats happening here? I was pointing 10 - 12 at 2 phone numbers, but all the same URL.

Do you reccomend i take them down, relist with a different account? Or new phone number - or subdomains???

Thanks Bro!

[Ashley Gable]

Hi,

I dont know if you will be able to answer this question, it actually has something to do with a site other than my own, but nonetheless I dont understand it!

I was researching a forum, i went to yahoo site explorer and they had A LOT of links pointing to them. I clicked on a few but could not find their link anywhere on that page. Until I looked at the source view. And at the bottom of the page was this ...

(I changed the names to avoid anything)

</table>
        <BR class='clear'>
        <CENTER>
            
<!-- href='/Resources.html'>Resources</a> |-->
<a href="http://www.theforumilookedat.com/postt14608.html"></a><P>


        <B>&copy; companyname.com 2006</B>
    </CENTER></P>
        <BR>
    </div>
</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>

But as I said, no link was on that area on the page, no where.


I went back to site explorer and found that most of the links to him were the same, and they were from the same domain. This domain seems to have just a bunch of sales pages on it. And each one has this same peice of code at the bottom.

The only reason I ask is because I wanted to know if these links carry any weight with the search engines? As I said he has a bunch of links pointing to him, but how many are legit in the eyes of google?

Any thoughts?
Thanks!

[johnhoefer]

Terry, great thread and WSO. I am looking forward to the Local SEO Bonus.

I am trying to rank for an very competitive keyword in the insurance niche. When I look at my competitions links in Majestic SEO, I click to follow their links and they appear to be broken or not loading etc. The top site has 11k links and another site in the top 10 has 230k links in the past year! Will they get the google slap at some point? There are other sites in the top 10 with 1k links, so I can beat them.

I will be starting with Trust and Authority links, then making my way into more spammier territory. Do you think its worth the chase?

My keywords are home insurance california, california home insurance, homeowners insurance california, california homeowners insurance, home owners insurance california, california home owners insurance.

Thanks for taking the time to answer!