Road to Adsense Success

[nettech]

With reagrds to people who want to make a quick buck, unless you have patience, don't expect much. Your loss is someone else's gain.

Just a quick story I want to share with you all. I registered a domain just under a year ago, put a 500 word article and put up a rubbish looking adsense 468*60 banner there. In the last few days, it seems like this 1 page site has come alive, it has ABSOLUTELY no backlinks whatsoever and is ranking on Page 2 of Google Global and UK, this is a VERY competitive market and keyword, the only thing that it has is age and the fact that the keyword phrase is in the domain. Its getting a few clicks per day and earning me a few $$$s but the fact that it has come into the serps for a site with no backlinks is astounding!

Now had I developed this (which I couldnt due to other sites being developed) I couldve made a killing. However, the moral of the story is patience is a virtue. Keep building today for tommorow, it will take time, but it will happen if you put the time in. Im not sure about John's (XFactor's) model, but my sites that are targetted (but not highly) targetted, tend to mature after about 10-12 months and this is when they show potential and rankings start to stable.

Keep at it guys and the money will start to roll in.

Good luck

[warmlikecoffee]

hard work always pays off, just work hard.

[discrat]

Originally Posted by nettech

With reagrds to people who want to make a quick buck, unless you have patience, don't expect much. Your loss is someone else's gain.

Just a quick story I want to share with you all. I registered a domain just under a year ago, put a 500 word article and put up a rubbish looking adsense 468*60 banner there. In the last few days, it seems like this 1 page site has come alive, it has ABSOLUTELY no backlinks whatsoever and is ranking on Page 2 of Google Global and UK, this is a VERY competitive market and keyword, the only thing that it has is age and the fact that the keyword phrase is in the domain. Its getting a few clicks per day and earning me a few $$ but the fact that it has come into the serps for a site with no backlinks is astounding!

Now had I developed this (which I couldnt due to other sites being developed) I couldve made a killing. However, the moral of the story is patience is a virtue. Keep building today for tommorow, it will take time, but it will happen if you put the time in. Im not sure about John's (XFactor's) model, but my sites that are targetted (but not highly) targetted, tend to mature after about 10-12 months and this is when they show potential and rankings start to stable.

Keep at it guys and the money will start to roll in.

Good luck

Yes I know what you mean. It does seem to work that way. For me back in March it was almost to the exact week for two of my Domains to jump in the SERPs and start earning considerably after getting them one year before.

PATIENCE and PERSITENCE. These cannot be overstated !!

[arth]

Thank you guys for your kind answers!

[ronb107]

I've read XFactor's book several times, and have created a micro niche with 5 keywords and pages, plus I am writing all the articles for submission.

I am now waiting to get Google's ok on the AdSense account.

Just wondering: does Yahoo have a similar adsense program? Is it APT? And, is it any good?

I have tried to join, but the webpage does not display.

Also, are there other worthwhile adsense programs available from Google competitors?

Thanks so much,
Ron

[nettech]

There are other programs out there and Ive never really bothered with them to be honest. Somehow I doub't they'll have the volume of advertisers that AdWords has and the CPC rates. I'm just thinking from an advertisers point of view as well, if I wanted to spend my budget, it would be on Google since I can get a lot more targetted traffic. However saaying that, I do remember that Overture/Yahoo did seem to convert better but the volume just wasn't there!

[hamburglar]

Man, this thread is so amazing.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE THE POSITIVE VIBES HERE.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Seriously. When I get down, I always come back here and read.

I recently got dishearten due to seeing other people in my niche ( in their eyes I am in their niche hehehe) I feel really bad for overtaking them because they are trying to do the same as me. Man. But I have come so far. Very interesting feelings I get.

But anywho, so far so good. Going to do a 500 directory submission on 5 of my sites soon. Hopefully that helps.

[sachibhat]

I made my first penny yesterday using xfactor method

[kingside]

About two and a half weeks in here, averaging about $3 a day. I'm probably getting a little ahead of myself in terms of sites. I launched 5 more this weekend (not indexed yet) putting my total at around 15. I'm going to hold off on new sites for now and just focus on building up my quality sites. My revenue only comes from 3-4 sites each day.

There's no getting around it, this method is EXPENSIVE in the beginning--whether you're talking time or money. I outsource all my articles and even get them at a super cheap price, but the numbers so far aren't pretty. I'm talking strictly in terms of ROI of course.. the overall cost isn't that much, which is why I think this method is great for beginners.

Lots of lessons learned so far. Probably the biggest is that there so many niches out there that it pays to be extremely selective. It's a lot of fun, but at this point I'm glad it's not my main source of revenue .

[kumkum]

Some fellow member maybe have an experiment ?
Is there any simple wordpress template similar to xfactor- xsitepro template.?

[arth]

Yeah, we should hold our pace. I remember John once said his 300 bucks/day came from his 30 or 40 sites, and he built those sites in the length of 6 month.

That's about 5 sites each month, I really should hold my excitement and work on each site(not just register them.)haha.

Cheers.

[hamburglar]

I now have a pool of 4 sites from Xfactor. It is very hard to work on them when you are busy doing other jobs to pay the bills. But at the same time you must keep working at them.

I got my plan laid out for tonight. Submit 1 article for each site.

[nettech]

I know the feeling when you should be focussing on getting your sites live and submitting and writing articles but all of a sudden, the entrepreneur or the devil inside you just opens up Micro Niche Finder and starts to find other niches, MNF can be SOOOO addictive ,its very easy to get carried away. The one thing more than anything else in this business is to keep up the discipline.

Originally Posted by arth

Yeah, we should hold our pace. I remember John once said his 300 bucks/day came from his 30 or 40 sites, and he built those sites in the length of 6 month.

That's about 5 sites each month, I really should hold my excitement and work on each site(not just register them.)haha.

Cheers.

[pumpfootwear]

great idea , most of the people think on earning big big amount from the starting , they dont yet have live websites and they dream of big money .. to start with 1 and 2 $ earnings is also a big task..

[nettech]

Hamburglar, how you getting on? Any news on your sites? I think you'll find that lots of us are intrigued with your thread!

:-)

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by nettech

Hamburglar, how you getting on? Any news on your sites? I think you'll find that lots of us are intrigued with your thread!

:-)

Hey,

Ok so some update on my thread.

First, life is insanely busy. I run my own business and that consumes my life. Spending time on the ad sense has been very limiting but I do one article a day. No matter how tired or dead I am. I do one article a day AT LEAST.

Now I will discuss only my Xfactor sites. I had 7 in total. 3 were duds (Prior to MNF and Xfactor)

So the top 4.

#1: Man this site has ranked so well. I had the keywords in reverse order because the LSV for the reverse was really good. Now it ranks #1 in google.ca for the keyword in PROPER ORDER. Some good conclusions and testing here. In regards to Return. Maybe a $1.

However the return on the site is very poor. However I am looking past that and just developing the sites. I figure I have it for a year and see how things progress.

#2: This site was #62 then went back to #75 now back to #62. It is doing its dance daily. This site has a direct competitor who is also using xfactor. However, he has very poor links from link exchange directories etc.. Where as I am getting all one-way PR 4 - 6 links for my site. So I will see who out ranks who.

Again: this is all testing to learn for my future sites.

#3: This has 5 words for the domain. Its insane! I have not done backlinking like crazy for this as it is just brewing. Its still in the work.

#4: Not indexed as it was launched on Saturday. So again building links.

MY focus for the next month: Just build links to these 4 sites thats it!!
Then next month launch 4-5 sites. Sometimes its soooooo easy to get caught up to make more more more more more while if you just concentrate on selected few, they might just get there.

Returns: Very dissapointing this month. So far I am at $2.34. Not the best but hey, I am $2 richer *does not look at the cost/investment sheet*

Nothing so far in terms of $$ BUT in the learning curve i have HUGE HUGE RETURNS. My SEO skills are MUCH SHARPER.

So far so great.

Sorry for not updating a lot, just tons of deadlines on my neck.

How is everyone else going in their journey?

[nettech]

Thanks for the update, I appreciate that you had to take the time out to write all that.

Like yourself I'm also busy with other things, I have other AdSense sites that do ok-ish so its quite tough doing Johns course. I launched a site the other day, and it still hasnt been indexed yet (although there was a previous install of WordPress on there which is showing up).

Just added another page and about to submit to EZA and 2 to GoArticles. Im testing Johns method to the letter to see how effective it is. How long did it take you to develop your template?

The only thing that I have changed slightly is that I'm making my About, Contact and Privacy Pages all nofollow so no PR (if it ever gets any) is passed onto these pages so it can be retained on the content pages, not sure if this will be beneficial but lets wait and see.

Don't worry abotu the earnings, it'll happen, when you searched on MNF, did you carry out eh search for Google CA? Sorry I;m not questionning your intelligence but its something that can easily be overseen. Did you run an OCI on these keywords, I know its more affiliate marketing but it will still give you an insight into the buying power of the keyword. Are the ads that show up on the high ranking pages relevant? You need to try and see if you can maximise the site that is already ranking high as this shoudl be the site makign you money. Just give them time, you'll start making money.

Well done for writing articles, just do it regularly and you'll see yoru work pay off.

I'll let you kno whow I get on too.

All the best
Zaheer

[nettech]

Appoloies for the typos, didnt get a chance to spell check that.... :-)

[WebFlip]

I think it's great to track progress like this. I set out many times to generate $100/day from one website then quickly realized the problems that involves! I found it much easier to set up 25 websites that make $2-$5 a day than 1 site making $100 a day due to the different traffic milestones you have to reach. I found it easier to get to the 200-500 hits a day range on many websites than the 20,000 hits a day range on one site.

Nevertheless, great stuff, keep rocking and good luck!

-Safe Travels!

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by nettech

Did you run an OCI on these keywords, I know its more affiliate marketing but it will still give you an insight into the buying power of the keyword.

Zaheer

You may not have noticed, but OCI is not currently working. The problem lies with MSN taking two tries to get the results back.

Apparently MSN is thwarting programs from accessing the data with long delays.

[sarasayshi]

Originally Posted by WebFlip

I think it's great to track progress like this. I set out many times to generate $100/day from one website then quickly realized the problems that involves! I found it much easier to set up 25 websites that make $2-$5 a day than 1 site making $100 a day due to the different traffic milestones you have to reach. I found it easier to get to the 200-500 hits a day range on many websites than the 20,000 hits a day range on one site.

Nevertheless, great stuff, keep rocking and good luck!

-Safe Travels!

I wholeheartedly agree. I can handle creating a bunch of websites and have a few among them that might be absolute duds versus taking a chance with 2-3 websites that may also be duds or only earn pennies a day.

[hamburglar]

I am proud of myself tonight.

Wrote 2 articles.
Submitted one to Goarticles and the other to buzzle.

My account on ezine is frozen because I have reached my submission limit. Now its in for review. It takes so long to articles in ezine. I had one article in there for review for about 2 weeks. The slow process definitely halts the ranking progress.

I like Goarticles and buzzle. The submission is right away. It could be for the bad because its not monitored but I have nothing else to loose.

Update on the $$$
Today I made $1.36. Yay! I actually made $1 today.

[hamburglar]

Thoughts and new projects:

I have created about a pool of 5 keywords. All have amazing exact searches. From 6000 - 27 000.

The next sites I create will vary in design and structure. Everyone seems to be copying John's layout and quiet frankly it might catch google's eye. I know its all about information but call me a consipracy theorist, I think it might be negative as more and more get into Xfactor's course. Multiple his product a 1000's of same site.

Not only that, it does not help differentiate the design. I am going to get a new design tomorrow with the same concept but more appealing to the eye.

[falconflier19]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Thoughts and new projects:

I have created about a pool of 5 keywords. All have amazing exact searches. From 6000 - 27 000.

The next sites I create will vary in design and structure. Everyone seems to be copying John's layout and quiet frankly it might catch google's eye. I know its all about information but call me a consipracy theorist, I think it might be negative as more and more get into Xfactor's course. Multiple his product a 1000's of same site.

Not only that, it does not help differentiate the design. I am going to get a new design tomorrow with the same concept but more appealing to the eye.

I had the same response to another poster who had the same concern. I would strongly suggest coming up with your own design. There are so many template options available. John provided a great foundation, even he states that his method is not the end all, be all. Think outside the box. This method can be twisted a ton of ways.

[arth]

Ok, I will updates my sites.

I have 5 sites, and two of them are using john's method. one of the domains was registered in Oct.2, the other is Oct.4.

I have written 5 articles for the first one(one article each day), now the key word is appearing on the first page(No.9). But only that page is indexed in google.

I earned my 50 cents on Oct.5 from visiters coming from SB sites, and that is all I earned.

The second site I only wrote the home page, so far not indexed yet.

After 5 nights work, It is a little bit tired writing articles and submit them.

And a quick question for Ham, how did you manage your one-way backlink? how did you get all those PR 4 5 sites? Any secrets?

Thanks.

[hamburglar]

Trying out a new technique for backlinks. I am going to try some link exchanges with site #4 and see how well it ranks for the keywords.

In regards to my high PR links, there is no strategy. I outright buy them. However I do have a procedure to assess how quality they are because some people just buy old pr domains and resell the links on ****ty sites.

[evertd]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

In regards to my high PR links, there is no strategy. I outright buy them. However I do have a procedure to assess how quality they are because some people just buy old pr domains and resell the links on ****ty sites.

This is off-topic, but one way to check if a site actually has the pagerank it says it has is to do a info:domain.com search on google. If you get no result or a different domain name back, then you know it's fake PR. I don't know how it works exactly, but there is a way to fake PR by doing some kind of redirect to a high pagerank site.

[m4ster]

My website was on first page of Google for targeted keyword. This morning, while I was checking rankings, I've noticed it had dropped down to page 10.

Is that normal? Website is like one month old so that could be part of Google dance?

Anyone else had similar experiences?

[mgcstrat]

That's very normal. Just part of the dance.

[Sebulba]

Originally Posted by m4ster

My website was on first page of Google for targeted keyword. This morning, while I was checking rankings, I've noticed it had dropped down to page 10.

Is that normal? Website is like one month old so that could be part of Google dance?

Anyone else had similar experiences?

I'm not a pro, but sounds like Google is doing a jig (dance) with you.

[7_8_shortcuts]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Trying out a new technique for backlinks. I am going to try some link exchanges with site #4 and see how well it ranks for the keywords.

In regards to my high PR links, there is no strategy. I outright buy them. However I do have a procedure to assess how quality they are because some people just buy old pr domains and resell the links on ****ty sites.

Hey there,

I don't know the exact details of Xfactor's course, although I've heard it's fantastic!

In regards to links...

I think a good foundation is submitting a bunch of EzineArticles to point to each of your internal pages, but... using a VARIETY of anchor texts (containing your main keyword for the page) and NOT always using the same anchor text.

Plus

More links to the home page, than the internal pages.

I think you should definitely be patient with EzineArticles and get your account to the next level, because those backlinks are of high quality!

I would post at least 2-3 EzineArticles per page on your own website over time, plus of course backlinks from other places...

And a good clean site layout is important too -- with Ads in the top fold and not looking too much as made-for-adsense sites etc.

Cheers

[Skills]

My only problem with adsense is putting in too much effort for little reward...once you get your site to rank you used hours upon hours of time and maybe only get like $8.00 out of the deal.

I'm no longer going for the instant traffic with articles to get adsense traffic anymore, because they take alot of effort and they are spikey and then die down. So if your site isn't pulling you may have just through away an article, however with the consistent flow of traffic from a search engine you don't have to worry about that you can get to the front page and just work on your ctr, which is what makes your plan of action good.

[Tommo2007]

This is a brilliant thread. I would love to know how it's going for you now. Best of luck to you.

[nettech]

Excellent advice, this must be an absolute minimum. There is something similar in XFactors course. Rich, if you've got some tme on your hands Id suggest you buy it and have a read, its excellent!

Originally Posted by RichIsSweet

Hey there,

I don't know the exact details of Xfactor's course, although I've heard it's fantastic!

In regards to links...

I think a good foundation is submitting a bunch of EzineArticles to point to each of your internal pages, but... using a VARIETY of anchor texts (containing your main keyword for the page) and NOT always using the same anchor text.

Plus

More links to the home page, than the internal pages.

I think you should definitely be patient with EzineArticles and get your account to the next level, because those backlinks are of high quality!

I would post at least 2-3 EzineArticles per page on your own website over time, plus of course backlinks from other places...

And a good clean site layout is important too -- with Ads in the top fold and not looking too much as made-for-adsense sites etc.

Cheers

[7_8_shortcuts]

Originally Posted by nettech

Excellent advice, this must be an absolute minimum. There is something similar in XFactors course. Rich, if you've got some tme on your hands Id suggest you buy it and have a read, its excellent!

Hey thanks

I think I will get it :-)

PS. One of the advantages of adsense-sites in my opinion is that they tend to be more consistent with earnings, even if your copy sucks for example, than let's say affiliate sites. Affiliate sites have a big potential too, but you have to know what offers convert and you have to write pretty convincing copy too (in a non-salesy way).

[wordgeist]

Originally Posted by JakeDaly

I wish you the best of luck, Hamburglar. I, too, have just started to build my own AdSense empire with the help of Mark(internetmarketer99) and I'm entirely committed to start earning $50/day by October 1st. I acknowledge that your $1 first-month goal is conservative on purpose but I'm afraid it's so conservative it could be deemed defeatist. Based on the 'Get to $50,000 This Month' thread awhile back by Daniel Taylor, it's best to put yourself in the mind-frame of knowing that you're going to succeed and make tons of money, you just simply have to go after it.

I just wondering if you reach your goal.

[hamburglar]

To rank high for your keyword ensure that your domain has your exact KW and NOTHING else.

I had bought a domain name ( for site #2) and it read keywordphrasereview.com. I added the word review. In my testing so far, it has not made it to the first page.

However, if you search "keyword phrase review" my site will come #1 in google even though I do not ever use the word REVIEW in my copy. I think this is a major breakthrough, for me at least, to rank high in google.

My competitor site (another xfactor site) is ranking on the first page with links form link farm where as my site has one way pr 4 and pr 5 links. On top it also has ezine and go articles whereas the other does not.

The reason I can conclude this is because the competition site is running on the same premise as I am and hence the only difference is in ranking, age and links. I have more quality links while he has more links. He has about 1 month/1.5 months on my domain. It just got indexed 2 weeks.

Maybe I am jumping the gun, but nonetheless I can have some weak conclusions

On the positive side, that same site is grabbing many pother unique keywords. It brings in about 10 unique a day. Very interesting.

My adsense has been $1 yesterday and today. I hope it stays this consistent for the rest of the month.

Will update soon.

[hamburglar]

Just launched my 5th site. Working on the 6th site.

Site #1 and site #4 are ranking on the first page. 2nd and 3rd are no where near the first page. I just have to spread in as many niches I can and drop the sites that do not rank well.

Simple enough equation to follow.

[kingside]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

To rank high for your keyword ensure that your domain has your exact KW and NOTHING else.

+1 to that. I've tried a few keywords with appended "extras" and they don't do nearly as well out of the gate. I think as time goes on and more links are built, the actual name becomes less relevant, but for those who are extremely impatient like me an exact match is a must.

[gjd6599]

If you want to make money with adsense, you should read John's, aka XFactor's thread on adsense in this forum. I read it last saturday 10/3 and took notes. I bought a domain on 10/4, and followed his advice on the setup, except I used wordpress.

Today 10/12 I went to my adsense account to get some code for a third site I am building, and noticed I had made 92 cents. When I checked google I am on page one, position five for that new site, and it didn't even get indexed until friday 10/9.

The domain name has the exact keyword in it, with a .net, and two pages of content, with a couple of images. I wrote one article, different from the content on the site, spun it, and submitted it to ezine articles, blogger blog, and wordpress free blog, and that's it.

It took me two days, but I can see me getting them done in a day as I get more organized. Maybe it was beginners luck, but I think this is a pretty good plan.

Glenn

[james kertley]

Good sharing with newbie and all warriors

This thread is really inspire to others who really want to earn money online.

[iworkforthem]

To get any success in Adsense, you have to be super patience... I have a blog which I posted a few posts now and then, without any other effort on SEO, promotion, etc. It generated quite a bit of $$$ from it.

Then once you get one generating some $$$ for you, move on to setup more, especially if you dun have too much traffic. LT works quite well with Adsense..

[skyparc]

Action is key, and you must make mistakes in order to be successful

Thank you hamburglar,

skyparc

[nettech]

Before ny of that, you need to ensure you have the quality content which will serve relevant Ads which in turn will convert better. If you have that combo, the chances of success are greater!

Originally Posted by itmodo

Huge traffic to the website and good CTR by ad placing are the key to success in Adsense.

[hamburglar]

I appreciate all the love I get on this thread.

One thing for certain is that Adsense is a huge mental game. I wrote about this many times but I never thought it would be this challenging. Trying to stay positive and motivated is hard to do. Like Xfactor mentions, this is the most uncertain business model. You really have no idea or control over you earnings. In a drop of a second, everything can change.

So I just launched another site and will spend this week, SEO'ing.

Total Xfactor sites: 6
Earnings: $5 so far.

I have read post/threads about how some make $20-$50/day within two months. I am finding that very hard to believe as I am following the process and getting low results. To be fair, I have only started this one month ago.

Anywho, back to writing more articles.

[nettech]

Hamburglar,

Keep it up mate, you're doing a cracking job and educating a lot of us, even those of us who've been in the game a while. Its a time thing as well, once your sites have a bit of history just watch, they'll come alive!

Also, how long did it take your sites to get indexed?

Are your sites static or Wordpress based?

Thanks

Zaheer

[hamburglar]

Thank you very much Nettech,

Normally my websites get indexed within one week. Also I am using a static design rather than wordpress.

[kingside]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

I have read post/threads about how some make $20-$50/day within two months. I am finding that very hard to believe as I am following the process and getting low results. To be fair, I have only started this one month ago.

I think it's just a matter of volume. I'm a little over 3 weeks in and am doing $10+ each day, but I've been adding 5 sites a week where as you're only doing 1 or 2 a week. Not that that's bad, it'll just take longer for you to see results.

But I totally agree, the first couple weeks are brutal when you're spending time and money everyday only to get one 30 cent click or something.

[hamburglar]

Wow, just in 3 weeks. That is amazing.

I guess I have to pick up speed and get my ass a moving.

Originally Posted by kingside

I think it's just a matter of volume. I'm a little over 3 weeks in and am doing $10+ each day, but I've been adding 5 sites a week where as you're only doing 1 or 2 a week. Not that that's bad, it'll just take longer for you to see results.

But I totally agree, the first couple weeks are brutal when you're spending time and money everyday only to get one 30 cent click or something.

[nettech]

Incredible.....you've just raised the bar....lol

So correct me if I'm wrong, thats like 1 site per day? Are you also submitting articles as well? Thats a lot of work if you are!

Originally Posted by kingside

I think it's just a matter of volume. I'm a little over 3 weeks in and am doing $10+ each day, but I've been adding 5 sites a week where as you're only doing 1 or 2 a week. Not that that's bad, it'll just take longer for you to see results.

But I totally agree, the first couple weeks are brutal when you're spending time and money everyday only to get one 30 cent click or something.