Road to Adsense Success

[kingside]

I made some adjustments after my first round of sites, so I'm doing things a little differently than John talks about. Probably the most important thing is that I don't submit nearly as many articles as he recommends. I'm also not slapping up additional content pages until the site proves itself out. That means rather than dedicating a ton of content to one new site, I'm spending time putting up additional sites.

I'm only three weeks in so I certainly can't draw any conclusions. It's possible that a couple weeks or months down the road my sites will slip in the rankings because not enough backlinks were built, but I figure there's plenty of time to "fortify" the backlinks on several of my sites that are doing well out of the gate.

Oh, and I outsource most of my article writing, which is a huge help. It'd be possible to write all the content myself, but I'd go crazy and not get more important work done .

Originally Posted by nettech

Incredible.....you've just raised the bar....lol

So correct me if I'm wrong, thats like 1 site per day? Are you also submitting articles as well? Thats a lot of work if you are!

[flobaby]

Kingside, how many pages on average do you have per site?

[timosai]

i'm always veering away from adsense for alternative caignpain methods, so any inspiration will help

[falconflier19]

What I do is choose a niche that I can slide a CPA offer into or something from CJ. I test the niche first using adsense, see how the traffic flows and then test putting up a CPA offer. Then I see how the CPA offer converts. I get the results from the 2 tests and go with the better converting.

But at least choosing niches that you are able to slide CJ or CPA into in the event that you get shut down from google, I think is essential.

[Rachel Zaouche]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

I appreciate all the love I get on this thread.

One thing for certain is that Adsense is a huge mental game. I wrote about this many times but I never thought it would be this challenging. Trying to stay positive and motivated is hard to do. Like Xfactor mentions, this is the most uncertain business model. You really have no idea or control over you earnings. In a drop of a second, everything can change.

So I just launched another site and will spend this week, SEO'ing.

Total Xfactor sites: 6
Earnings: $5 so far.

I have read post/threads about how some make $20-$50/day within two months. I am finding that very hard to believe as I am following the process and getting low results. To be fair, I have only started this one month ago.

Anywho, back to writing more articles.

Hamburglar

I think you are doing great - I am sure that your sites will start bringing in more $ very soon.

Your work ethic is admirable.

Good luck

Rach

[hamburglar]

Just Launched my 7th site.

Getting the content together is getting very easy. Takes me about 30-50min to write up a page.

I am also now writing content for the first page only and if the site ranks high I go further.

My concept is this: launch many site as possible, SEO the crap out of them. Keep the ones that work.

Its that simple.

So I am focusing on Volume of sites I have in my portfolio now.

[hamburglar]

wow

I just have to share this.

Today's Earning: $5.28


$5 in one day!! I think this is just for today but nonetheless amazing. I cannot believe my eyes.

[hamburglar]

Just Launched my 8th site.

Really tired. Hopefully I can launch 2 more tomorrow and get my portfolio to 10. Then its all just SEO the crap outta them.

[kingside]

Congrats on the $5.00 day!

[olamilekan2]

Originally Posted by chukwuma

Thanks for this. Is it good to put adsense on your blog asap?

Yes u can put adsense on your site or blog immediately

[WadeWinger]

What do you mean by "SEO the crap out of them" ?

The course you are following suggests just submitting articles to ezinearticles and goarticles, no other seo or linking involved.

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by WadeWinger

What do you mean by "SEO the crap out of them" ?

The course you are following suggests just submitting articles to ezinearticles and goarticles, no other seo or linking involved.

That is true the course taught that. Along side articles, I am doing social, plus blog commenting.

I am testing everything and anything under the sun. Eliminating what doesn't work. Articles however are key but am also trying other stuff to solidify.

Site #4 has 0 articles but maybe 1 backlink( a great one). It ranks #8 within one week.

So I am playing around with what works for me.

[WadeWinger]

Most of my sites are ranking in the top 30 just because of the domain name, nothing else. Then after about 5 article submissions to EZA, I can usually get on the first page.

[Sowemimo Oladele]

Originally Posted by kingside

Oh, and I outsource most of my article writing, which is a huge help. It'd be possible to write all the content myself, but I'd go crazy and not get more important work done .

Hello Kingside,

How do you outsource your article writting and how much do you pay @ an average/article.


Thanks

[HCLee]

May I know when you search for your niche sites what did you look for in terms of:
a. no of searches per month:
b. ad cost
c. strength of competition (inanchor/intitle/inurl counts)

to be able to rank in the top 30 solely because of your domain name. Just curious.

Originally Posted by WadeWinger

Most of my sites are ranking in the top 30 just because of the domain name, nothing else. Then after about 5 article submissions to EZA, I can usually get on the first page.

[kingside]

I pay $2.00 for a 400-500 word article. I'm using a bit of a "proprietary" system for outsourcing my content right now (it'll be released soon), but for what it's worth I use to have good luck with Amazon mturk. If you want more details let me know, you gotta fine tune your approach.

Originally Posted by Sowemimo Oladele

Hello Kingside,

How do you outsource your article writting and how much do you pay @ an average/article.


Thanks

[wordgeist]

Originally Posted by skyparc

Action is key, and you must make mistakes in order to be successful

Thank you hamburglar,

skyparc

I agree you can learn more from you mistakes and apply what you learn.

[Retired]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Thoughts and new projects:

I have created about a pool of 5 keywords. All have amazing exact searches. From 6000 - 27 000.

The next sites I create will vary in design and structure. Everyone seems to be copying John's layout and quiet frankly it might catch google's eye. I know its all about information but call me a consipracy theorist, I think it might be negative as more and more get into Xfactor's course. Multiple his product a 1000's of same site.

Not only that, it does not help differentiate the design. I am going to get a new design tomorrow with the same concept but more appealing to the eye.

I think you may be right about the Xfactor's layout. I had 3 sites indexed fairly quickly and they wound up on page 1. Since then I've added 3 more sites. They have been crawled several times, but Google refuses to index them. The sights which were indexed appear to have been dropped, as the Page Rank indicator is now greyed out.

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by Retired

I think you may be right about the Xfactor's layout. I had 3 sites indexed fairly quickly and they wound up on page 1. Since then I've added 3 more sites. They have been crawled several times, but Google refuses to index them. The sights which were indexed appear to have been dropped, as the Page Rank indicator is now greyed out.

That is a disturbing find because my competition who was ranking #8 has been out of the SERPs for the same keyword now. The site is still up but it does not rank anywhere in the top 100.

Very interesting.

[7_8_shortcuts]

Originally Posted by Retired

I think you may be right about the Xfactor's layout. I had 3 sites indexed fairly quickly and they wound up on page 1. Since then I've added 3 more sites. They have been crawled several times, but Google refuses to index them. The sights which were indexed appear to have been dropped, as the Page Rank indicator is now greyed out.

Are you putting your AdSense ads on your site immediately when you actually LAUNCH your site?

I would wait for about 2-4 weeks BEFORE putting any monetization on the site and just build some backlinks from EzineArticles and the like.

This usually will get you indexed faster...

because

Your site doesn't appear straight away to be "Made-For-AdSense" site

but like a rather helpful content site.

Just my opinion

[devilishsaint]

Yeah patience is the key to success. People just start expecting a lot after making a website and adding google adsense.

[m4ster]

I've just found another website similar to mine on first page of Google obviously built using John's method. That website was made one month after mine.

I don't know if I should be angry or what... But at least I had a good laugh when I saw that title, in addition to keyword phrase, contains "Click here first!".

Now, isn't that just pathetic?

[kingside]

That's just business. Don't get too bent out of shape

Originally Posted by m4ster

I've just found another website similar to mine on first page of Google obviously built using John's method. That website was made one month after mine.

I don't know if I should be angry or what... But at least I had a good laugh when I saw that title, in addition to keyword phrase, contains "Click here first!".

Now, isn't that just pathetic?

[Kael41]

Not only is that sound business, BUT, i don't think it really matters IMO if you put ads on sooner or later. Just my own personal testing.

[nettech]

Oh dear, seems like Google has wised up....hmmmm maybe time to change the approach...lol

[arth]

Hey hamburglar and others, I met a huge problem and would like to hear what's your opinion on this.


I found it is quite easy to get the main keyword(the one used in the domain name) indexed on the first page by google in just one week, but for other sub keywords, it is rather difficult for them to show in the first page(those pages or posts are indexed, but surely not in the first 100)

Is there any difference of using john's method to different keywords?Did you guys met the same problem I did?

Many thanks.

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by arth

Hey hamburglar and others, I met a huge problem and would like to hear what's your opinion on this.


I found it is quite easy to get the main keyword(the one used in the domain name) indexed on the first page by google in just one week, but for other sub keywords, it is rather difficult for them to show in the first page(those pages or posts are indexed, but surely not in the first 100)

Is there any difference of using john's method to different keywords?Did you guys met the same problem I did?

Many thanks.

Hey,

I am a bit confused in regards to your question. I do have difficulty ranking for the sub pages. I just think they would not rank as high because the keywords are not in the domain name. Other websites that have better optimization for those keywords will rank higher. That is my assumption.

However, I have been seeing some traffic coming from my subpages. I have no idea how they are getting there though, my analytics says 0 but yet people view them.

Interesting findings.

[nettech]

How close are your long tail keywords to your domain name? If they are very close then you shouldn't find it too hard to rank, if they aren't too relevant then you wont.

Best thing to do in your longtail keywords is to look for at least 2 keywords that are in your domain and stem from that.

That should give you a chance to rank at least in the top 100.

Good luck

Originally Posted by arth

Hey hamburglar and others, I met a huge problem and would like to hear what's your opinion on this.


I found it is quite easy to get the main keyword(the one used in the domain name) indexed on the first page by google in just one week, but for other sub keywords, it is rather difficult for them to show in the first page(those pages or posts are indexed, but surely not in the first 100)

Is there any difference of using john's method to different keywords?Did you guys met the same problem I did?

Many thanks.

[evertd]

I have something interesting happening. I am targeting a 3 word keyphrase, let's say "word1 word2 word3", and my domain name is "word1 word2 word3 guide.com". After a couple of weeks I'm ranked in around position 32 for my 3 word phrase, but for "word1 word2" I'm ranked at 8! Really interesting.

[RebeccaL]

Originally Posted by evertd

I have something interesting happening. I am targeting a 3 word keyphrase, let's say "word1 word2 word3", and my domain name is "word1 word2 word3 guide.com". After a couple of weeks I'm ranked in around position 32 for my 3 word phrase, but for "word1 word2" I'm ranked at 8! Really interesting.

That tends to happen when you have a good keyword domain - keeping those rankings will require work on your part though

[hamburglar]

Just finished writing 10 articles today.

I am getting the hang of writing articles. It is actually really fun.

Also. I reached my $15 mark!!! WOOOT!!!!

Revised Goal: Reach $20 in a month now.

Currently I am at $17.24 in my adsense account for october.

Really exciting. I am not in the $100/day yet but I am going one step at a time.

[hamburglar]

Guide to writing articles - 'Burg Style

People don't like writing articles. Well not all but a very few selected. As mentioned over and over again, to succeed in google Adsense you need CONTENT and LOTS of it. So for the people who struggle at writing articles I have created this guide for you. I also hate writing articles....used to hate. I never did well in english school etc... but now I love it. Here is how.

1) Pick a topic

Choose something you love and of interest. Go to ezine and find an article that stands out to you. Ensure the topic resonates with your soul.

2) Click on the article

3) Copy and paste the article in a word document.

4) Read the first paragraph and write it back in your own words. Read it out loud, then write down whatever you understand. Your perception will always be different and have its own twist.

5) Rinse and Repeat.

This is exactly what I do, word for word. I rewrite the first paragraph and by the end of it, my mind is already flowing with content. By the end of my 50th word, I lead into topics of my interest and come up with a killer 400 - 500 word article.

The hard part about article writing is NOT KNOWING what to write. SO FIND SOMETHING THAT YOU DO KNOW ABOUT AND WRITE.

I can now crank out at least 2 rough drafts in an hour.

Hope this helps you guys.

[JMartin]

Sounds like you're chugging along.

I tend to write a couple articles a day on average. Each new site of mine gets a couple articles and that's it until I see it moving.

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Just finished writing 10 articles today.

I am getting the hang of writing articles. It is actually really fun.

Also. I reached my $15 mark!!! WOOOT!!!!

Revised Goal: Reach $20 in a month now.

Currently I am at $17.24 in my adsense account for october.

Really exciting. I am not in the $100/day yet but I am going one step at a time.

Thanks for the info.

What are you earning typically per click? What CTRs are you seeing on average? And, are you strictly pushing products?

Thanks again,
Ron

[hamburglar]

MY CTR is avg about 11% this month. Last month it was at 3%. The big change in the CTR came from implementing Xfactor's concept layouts.

The hard part of all this is getting your sites to rank. That is the name of the adsense game.

Originally Posted by ronb107

Thanks for the info.

What are you earning typically per click? What CTRs are you seeing on average? And, are you strictly pushing products?

Thanks again,
Ron

[Mr Money Maker]

Best way to go, is to try and create a huge mega site and rank as many pages in your site on google.
To make over $100.00 + a day with Adsense your going to need some huge numbers to pull it off . I figure maybe 150,000 hits a month.
Traffic is the key.....lots of traffic.
I think it's far easier to sell a product of your own online.....but I wish you all the best.

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

MY CTR is avg about 11% this month. Last month it was at 3%. The big change in the CTR came from implementing Xfactor's concept layouts.

The hard part of all this is getting your sites to rank. That is the name of the adsense game.

Are you driving traffic only thru Article Submissions?

Also, if you don't mind, what is your average earnings per click? Just trying to gauge your goal of $20 per month.

Thanks Again.

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by ronb107

Are you driving traffic only thru Article Submissions?

Also, if you don't mind, what is your average earnings per click? Just trying to gauge your goal of $20 per month.

Thanks Again.

Hey,

Driving traffic from article marketing is useless. I had read that somewhere and in my experience with over (35) articles submitted, it is definitely useless for ADSENSE. It works for other business models but not adsense. However the backlinks is key.

So it is safe to say that I am earning on AVG $1.50/day. It is very exciting. I had 2 $5/day and now I do about $2.

My goal of $20 was reached just the day after I set it. My adsense account has: $26.46 as of Today.

So my next goal now is to bump my daily earnings. My ultimate goal is to reach $100/day. Right now I am at $1/day.

Next milestone: Earn $5/day.

4 of my new sites just got ranked and indexed. I will see how this will help my return.

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by Mr Money Maker

Best way to go, is to try and create a huge mega site and rank as many pages in your site on google.
To make over $100.00 + a day with Adsense your going to need some huge numbers to pull it off . I figure maybe 150,000 hits a month.
Traffic is the key.....lots of traffic.
I think it's far easier to sell a product of your own online.....but I wish you all the best.

Have tried this 100000 times. Never worked for me.

Also,

Selling your own product is easy but requires a lot of customer care. I know this from the experience of my family business. That is one road I do not want to travel.

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Hey,

Driving traffic from article marketing is useless. I had read that somewhere and in my experience with over (35) articles submitted, it is definitely useless for ADSENSE. It works for other business models but not adsense. However the backlinks is key.

So it is safe to say that I am earning on AVG $1.50/day. It is very exciting. I had 2 $5/day and now I do about $2.

My goal of $20 was reached just the day after I set it. My adsense account has: $26.46 as of Today.

So my next goal now is to bump my daily earnings. My ultimate goal is to reach $100/day. Right now I am at $1/day.

Next milestone: Earn $5/day.

4 of my new sites just got ranked and indexed. I will see how this will help my return.

Hey hamburglar:

Thanks for the response.

Yes, I meant drive traffic from the results of backlinks in your articles; not directly. Although, talking with a friend, if the articles are on the subject of your niche, then you could get significant direct traffic from the Articles. It would have to be a popular niche, tho.

Ok if I get just a little more detail? I understand that you are making on avg $2 per day from a site, but what is the average payout per click (ie, 20 cents or $2)? And, what is the number of impressions daily (or visitors to your site)?

Again, just trying to put things into context.

Thanks

[Kael41]

hamburglar,
If you really want to shine for a per day average - do this:

research some keywords for the christmas holiday season. Find a keyword/domain name combo that is regularly searched for, but one that you know you can rank for.

Develop that site out and do some backlinking. Now, reap the rewards

I've got 3 halloween sites pulling in bank this year. 1 of them was 2 years established, and the other 2 were created AFTER last years halloween.

I always tell people - create a site for something that people will search for. "how to" "how do i" "find" etc

[Ibex]

Hi Hamburglar

I'm really enjoying reading about your progress. I'm following this with interest as I am also following XFactors adsense program. Currently my earnings are nearly £9 and I still haven't completely finished my first two web sites, still need more content and articles.

Interestingly the things I just though I would never be capable of doing have turned out to be the easiest and most enjoyable parts of the program. That is designing the websites, keyword research, organizing hosting, and finding domain names. The bit I though would be easy, creating content and articles has proved to be really difficult, still I'm going to follow the instructions to the letter for at least 10 sites just to see if the program works.

The best of luck

Ibex

[hamburglar]

Just got back in from NYC.

My earnings right now are stuck at $1/day. I thought by now, with 10 websites, I sure would reach $5 - $10/day as others have with xfactors method. I still have yet to see this. I have followed his guide except for the part about writing sub content pages. So maybe that is my missing link.

This week I am going to spend time creating 5 sub pages for each site and monitor my income growth.

[2d0k]

whoaah! I really like your discipline and the efforts you've put to reach your goals. It's really interesting and fun reading this thread.. thank you that you've started this.. Brings a whiff of inspiration to me.. 10 sites? nice.. nice..

[Irsan Komarga]

Hambuglar: Do you have site with e.g. cordlesskeyboardreviews.com that rank high for keyword cordless keyboard? or do you have site with e.g. cordless-keyboard-reviews.com and still rank high?

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by Irsan Komarga

Hambuglar: Do you have site with e.g. cordlesskeyboardreviews.com that rank high for keyword cordless keyboard? or do you have site with e.g. cordless-keyboard-reviews.com and still rank high?

I do not use and "-" in my domain names. I do not know how well that ranks.

You should try the "-" out and see how things go.

[2d0k]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Just got back in from NYC.

My earnings right now are stuck at $1/day. I thought by now, with 10 websites, I sure would reach $5 - $10/day as others have with xfactors method. I still have yet to see this. I have followed his guide except for the part about writing sub content pages. So maybe that is my missing link.

This week I am going to spend time creating 5 sub pages for each site and monitor my income growth.

Have you already solved why your earnings are stuck in $1/day? any other interesting updates?

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by 2d0k

Have you already solved why your earnings are stuck in $1/day? any other interesting updates?

No, I have not solved this yet.

I think this will happen with me testing a couple of methods. I am still baffled as to how individuals can get $20 - $50/day with 5 sites. It is probably the niches and rankings. Thats all there is to adsense.

So I am going to focus on ranking my current sites in the top 3. Only 1 site ranks in the top 3 whereas the other sites are all on page 1 but not top 3.

[tjcocker]

I feel your pain Hamburglar. After reading John's thread I set out to make $100/day. I have 18 websites built, but I'm still averaging around $2/day. I went a little too fast in the beginning. I'm slowly figuring out which ones rank better and why. Having that many sites to tweak helps me figure out so many details that I never would've thought about.

I admire your honesty and work ethic. I learned that only through failure can we make great leaps forward. I used to spend hours trying to build 1 page because I didn't know HTML or CSS and had a ton of problems basically trying copy and paste my content into pre-made templates. When I completely messed up an 8 page website to point where it wouldn't work at all I forced myself to learn HTML. Now I make pages in minutes totally from scratch.

It's all a process. My only goal is to keep learning. Money will follow later, hopefully. Thanks for letting us know there are other people in the same boat.

[2d0k]

Originally Posted by tjcocker

It's all a process. My only goal is to keep learning. Money will follow later, hopefully. Thanks for letting us know there are other people in the same boat.

Thumbs up for your perseverance.