Road to Adsense Success

[tjcocker]

I feel your pain Hamburglar. After reading John's thread I set out to make $100/day. I have 18 websites built, but I'm still averaging around $2/day. I went a little too fast in the beginning. I'm slowly figuring out which ones rank better and why. Having that many sites to tweak helps me figure out so many details that I never would've thought about.

I admire your honesty and work ethic. I learned that only through failure can we make great leaps forward. I used to spend hours trying to build 1 page because I didn't know HTML or CSS and had a ton of problems basically trying copy and paste my content into pre-made templates. When I completely messed up an 8 page website to point where it wouldn't work at all I forced myself to learn HTML. Now I make pages in minutes totally from scratch.

It's all a process. My only goal is to keep learning. Money will follow later, hopefully. Thanks for letting us know there are other people in the same boat.

[2d0k]

Originally Posted by tjcocker

It's all a process. My only goal is to keep learning. Money will follow later, hopefully. Thanks for letting us know there are other people in the same boat.

Thumbs up for your perseverance.

[Rachel Zaouche]

This is a great thread. Hamburglar please keep coming back and letting us know how you are getting on.

Content is king so they say so subpages may help.

All the best

Rach

[simonheng82]

Hi, i am another John subscriber with 15 websites up since 2 weeks ago, 8 of them indexed within few days and the rest are still yet to be indexed.

Few articles submitted to directory with some backlinking juice from angela packet, i am monitoring the result right now.

Thanks for hamburglar starting this thread and share your work towards success. I am in now

Simon

[simonheng82]

Sorry Hamburglar for bumping your thread, but i would like to tell everybody that one of my indexed site earned me $2.82 this morning from 7 clicks This is only with 1 article submitted to directory. The initial indexed SERP s on the 5th position but i am not sure it will drop in the coming days......

Anyway this is a good start, i hope you too.

Simon

[Zeus66]

Don't be afraid to take on a more competitive niche. Micro niches are great, but you do hit a wall at some point where your need to create new pages of content and get backlinks is overwhelming. A Page 2 ranking for a more competitive keyword with higher search volume often pulls more traffic than a high Page 1 ranking for a long-tail keyword.

Whichever path you choose, the key is maintenance. Keep adding content and never stop building links with good anchor text. You'll get there, as long as the keywords you targeted have enough traffic potential. Some don't pan out. Believe me, I've been there many times.

Thanks for this thread, hamburglar.

John

[hamburglar]

Thank you guys for the support.

I have realized that for any of my sites to rank high I NEED GOOD BACKLINKS. So I have broadened my backlink campaigns. I strictly used articles and now am switching to TLJ(thelinkjuicer). I am in the test phase to see what works and what doesn't.

Out of my 10 sites, I only have 4 sites that rank in the top 20. the other 6 are indexed but nowhere to be found. That puzzles me because I have thoroughly checked the competition and they have very low SOC. Once again, you never know what the big G is up to hahaha.

Also, 8 of my sites only have one page of content. I am refocusing quality subpage content. I have developed a list of 10 more keywords to launch my sites this month.

Yesterday I earned $4.55!!

So my goals Thus far:

Month of October: $46.77
Month of September: $13.66

I only started the Xactor stuff at the end of September, so it does work. BUT YOU NEED TO DO A LOT OF WORK. Its not simple set it and forget it. At least for now.

It requires a lot of work.

Time to keep pushing

[simonheng82]

That is true that even with low soc, i will try to search that particular keyword and look at the competing sites on the top right corner. I have also found a keyword with SOC 6 but google search result shows 11Mil competing sites....For me, i will still look for competitions lesser than 500K.

On the same project, i have also tried to look for spell error keywords, i did pretty well with this one page site with no backlink built, i earned $60+ purely from SE visitors, low soc as well as low competitions. But this only last me for 3+ months, and i found this site to be no where in google, but it is still indexed.

SImon

[nettech]

In addition to the usual keyword research, I also use the SEO for Firefox plugin and look at the sites on the first page. If they are between PR 1-3 then worth optimising for. If there are a lot of PR4+ then I generally wont bother or try to take another angle.

Good thread Hamburglar
Zaheer

[dannybaskara]

Great Idea .thx

[js112]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Hey guys,



Goal: To make $1 in a month. I set too many high expectations. This time it I am taking baby steps.

After this I will increase it to $2 so on and so forth.

Ultimate goal: to make $100 - $300/day, but that is far away. Patience is key.


Mods: If this is in the wrong area, I apologize. I thought it would be good here cause its for adsense.

man i agree with you at this point, just start with a lower expectation,then you will never feel disappointed
good luck

[simonheng82]

Taking small steps is good but sometimes you have to think big and act big, especially when you see so many of success stories through Xfactor course. This is the main reason i setup 15 sites in 1 weeks...

Simon

[hamburglar]

I have 10 sites launched and am earning around $1/day.

I hope to increase this by the end of this month. I am trying to find various ways of building backlinks but realized I am moving away from xfactors book. Now I am trying to focus on what Xfactor said.

Should be a fun ride.

[Charley Brown]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

I have 10 sites launched and am earning around $1/day.

I hope to increase this by the end of this month. I am trying to find various ways of building backlinks but realized I am moving away from xfactors book. Now I am trying to focus on what Xfactor said.

Should be a fun ride.

Remember, what works for one does not necessarily work for others. Xfactor's methods are definitely good, but if you can supplement what he is doing, you will be even better off.

[nettech]

Yes I agree with this totally, Ive got XFactor type sites up and also making subtle tweaks to existing sites that make me the core of my earnings.

Originally Posted by Charley Brown

Remember, what works for one does not necessarily work for others. Xfactor's methods are definitely good, but if you can supplement what he is doing, you will be even better off.

[hamburglar]

I just created a new design based on Xfactor's concept. It looks 10X better and is converting around 20-50%. Its only been one week though, so I will see how this template works in the long run.

[ronb107]

Care to share on the design. Couldn't resist asking.

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

I just created a new design based on Xfactor's concept. It looks 10X better and is converting around 20-50%. Its only been one week though, so I will see how this template works in the long run.

Not at this moment. I am in a phase of testing the designs and my backlink work. The site is built of Xfactor's framework however it is a tad more appealing and focused to the eye.

[simonheng82]

You can always try to design your own template as well as to have the type of adsense ads that you could blending in. It is not necessary to follow exactly what other find useful. You may do better if you got the kick.

Just to update on my 15 sites adventure, all the sites are being indexed and 8 of them appear in the first page, 4 in the second, 3 in more than 10th. I believe the SERP is not firm yet as it will still fluctuating in the coming days, lets see....

Adsense get me around $.80 to $1.20 per day average since 3 days ago. Like what hamburglar said, hope to increase the earning by end of the month, maybe to $2-3 per day. At this stage, I am going to only follow Xfactor suggestion in this project by just posting article to get backlink. Sooner or later, i will be joining angela with her high PR link building Nov packets, hope it helps too..

Simon

[ronb107]

Has anyone noticed that Google is lowering the earnings per click (EPC)?

My sites started with high EPCs and have slowly dropped to half the initial value. Also noticed that my impressions are dropping as well.

[hamburglar]

Just wrote up 6 articles.

I am getting too lazy with this. The time is now to move faster and harder.

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by ronb107

Has anyone noticed that Google is lowering the earnings per click (EPC)?

My sites started with high EPCs and have slowly dropped to half the initial value. Also noticed that my impressions are dropping as well.

Haven't noticed this at all. I just earned $5 yesterday.

[rajsidhux]

What should you do if your site was ranking nicely in the top five - six results for its keyword for about 3 weeks and then one day it is nowhere to be seen. The site is still showing in Google if you type the domain in the search box, so it is not de-indexed.

The site is 5 weeks old.

Should I be worried? Or is ths natural.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[sarasayshi]

Originally Posted by rajsidhux

What should you do if your site was ranking nicely in the top five - six results for its keyword for about 3 weeks and then one day it is nowhere to be seen. The site is still showing in Google if you type the domain in the search box, so it is not de-indexed.

The site is 5 weeks old.

Should I be worried? Or is ths natural.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Get some more back links. Just keep pumping out back links to the site and it will come back up again. It's all part of the google dance. As long as the site is still indexed, you are good to go.

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by sarasayshi

Get some more back links. Just keep pumping out back links to the site and it will come back up again. It's all part of the google dance. As long as the site is still indexed, you are good to go.

And how do you determine if your site is indexed, and where you rank for a given keyword?

[sarasayshi]

Originally Posted by ronb107

And how do you determine if your site is indexed, and where you rank for a given keyword?

If you type in your full URL into google such as http://www.mysite.com and any page from your site shows up, you are still indexed. If you are deindexed none of your pages from your site will show up in the search results.

I am not sure I quite understand your second question. As far as rankings, I am sure the original poster knew his targeted keyword that he was ranking for which is why he knows he is no longer on the first page of google for it.

[hamburglar]

Man,

Feeling a bit burnt. Working on the sites and articles. This is a very long and tough battle. I have to keep reminding myself to have patience. I am earning $2/day (taking a look at my last couple of days).

I focused last week too much on people that were making $50 from a couple of sites. I have to realize that their work has nothing to do with mine. And I will get what I earn in due time. I just have to stay focused.

Adsense is also a personal development game, if you guys have not noticed. Hehehe.

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by sarasayshi

If you type in your full URL into google such as http://www.mysite.com and any page from your site shows up, you are still indexed. If you are deindexed none of your pages from your site will show up in the search results.

I am not sure I quite understand your second question. As far as rankings, I am sure the original poster knew his targeted keyword that he was ranking for which is why he knows he is no longer on the first page of google for it.

For checking on your site being indexed, either try site:http://mysite.com or
go to this website: Indexed By Google?

For checking on where in the SERP your site ranks for a keyword, go to: Find your website rank on google across different countries

[andyj00]

This is a helpful thread.

Ok, my experiance with my Xfactor type Adsense sites:

I have 5 sites and last month they made a total of £73 which is around $120. Fairly pleased with that but no-where near what Xfactor says in his course. He says we should be getting an average of $5 a day, per site. I'm getting $0.80 a day, quite a way off.

Now I get a great CTR on the whole so the only way to get anywhere near $5 is I'd need SHED loads of traffic.

I have around 20 ezine articles for each site and have done Angelas backlinks.
I'm guessing I'd have to double or treble the amount of articles written for each site. How long would that take? Or would I be better off starting more new miche niche sites? It's difficult to know what to do for the best.

I'm not moaning - merely stating the facts in black and white

[zachary0611]

How many words do you have in your one page sites? I have 300 words for my one page site but I am unsure if I need to add more info.

[32paul52]

Good work guys- yeap action is the key get them up get them some promotion, and keep moving, focus on solutions to challenges, like time, writing etc- and Go for it!

I am also following johns advice......

[Fraggler]

Originally Posted by andyj00

Now I get a great CTR on the whole so the only way to get anywhere near $5 is I'd need SHED loads of traffic.

There is another factor that reduces the amount of traffic you require - the average CPC. If you are only getting cheap clicks then your content isn't attracting the expensive ads. You have to make the decision between chosing markets with a high CPC or chosing markets that are easy to get traffic in. The ideal situation is a high CPC market that is easy to get traffic for.

It isn't hard to get $1 per click with Adsense if you quantify the CPC before committing to a site.

[euhlir]

The thing you have to ask yourself is if it's worth it, writing and making numerous sites for $20-$50 per month?

I haven't seen ONE person say they are earning $5/day from each site, like Xfactor claims you should be making.

Suspicious? There's reason to be.

Either he's not telling everything like it is, or perhaps he's not telling it like it really is.

I've read many accounts of people using his method verbatim and still not seeing anything close to $5/day per site.

[BillyPilgrim]

So quit. It's what you want to do anyway. And then go onto the Next Big Thing (guru BS)
I make over a hundred bucks a month from two sites. It's not much but I see John's methods as a tweak to what I had been doing. But it didn't happen overnight. It took a number of months for my sites to take off. Just keep working.

Or not.

[andyj00]

Originally Posted by Fraggler

There is another factor that reduces the amount of traffic you require - the average CPC. If you are only getting cheap clicks then your content isn't attracting the expensive ads. You have to make the decision between chosing markets with a high CPC or chosing markets that are easy to get traffic in. The ideal situation is a high CPC market that is easy to get traffic for.

It isn't hard to get $1 per click with Adsense if you quantify the CPC before committing to a site.

Yes this is a good point! I forgot that. Yes I'm not getting a lot per click 30-50 cents on average I recon.
Even using MNF, its difficult to find a high paying niche that is low in competition and high in searches. Its either one or the other.

[zombo]

I spent a good time reading this thread and it is truley an inspiration

[hamburglar]

Wow,

Love the conversation that is happening.

I am also looking into High paying CPC low comp keywords. I have 2 sites that are carrying my adsense. The others have a 1% CTR which is kinda scary.

@euhlir: I understand your concern. Trust me I do. But I have one site that earns $3-4/daily. The only problem/challenge is that my other 9 dont. hehehehehehhahaha.

Now if I can only multiply that site.

Guys for this month I am avg $3/day. wooot! Slowly getting up there.

I am working on this new template and it has yielded me the best CTR so far. Its at 50%. The clicks are very low paying though. Its been up for 3 days so far.

Lets go guy's we can accomplish $100/day.

Remember:
Provide Quality and you will get Quality Money!

[digidoodles]

Traffic is key... but, not going to need 150K impressions per month for $100/day. Should be 1/2 of that.. 60-70K.

Originally Posted by Mr Money Maker

Best way to go, is to try and create a huge mega site and rank as many pages in your site on google.
To make over $100.00 + a day with Adsense your going to need some huge numbers to pull it off . I figure maybe 150,000 hits a month.
Traffic is the key.....lots of traffic.
I think it's far easier to sell a product of your own online.....but I wish you all the best.

[digidoodles]

Are you using WP?

If you are, install stat press. You'll be able to see what KW your visitors are coming in on.

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Hey,

I am a bit confused in regards to your question. I do have difficulty ranking for the sub pages. I just think they would not rank as high because the keywords are not in the domain name. Other websites that have better optimization for those keywords will rank higher. That is my assumption.

However, I have been seeing some traffic coming from my subpages. I have no idea how they are getting there though, my analytics says 0 but yet people view them.

Interesting findings.

[digidoodles]

For the record, we're doing the Adsense thing too.

Took parts from here and there and a little tweak here and a little tweak there (here a tweak, there a tweak, every where a tweak tweak.. can you tell I have 5 little kidlets?

We don't have an option for this working or not... hence, do or die marketing. A self-proclaimed guru marketer from the UK cheated us out of $18K at the end of September... that stung.

Onward and upward. My partner is the calculator guy. He made predictions as to what we have to do to achieve X (whatever X is at that moment.) He's been exactly, spot on since the beginning. And that has helped us TREMENDOUSLY in figuring out what we have to do to get to where we want to be.

We started on September 24, the day that self-righteous, self-proclaimed information marketing guru stiffed us out of $18K.

Content + Products + Persistence = Money


We'll get there. We will.

[simonheng82]

I have the same problem as u did, out of the 15 sites i have, only few of them consistently getting clicks, others dont, now i am getting $2 per day consistently for 3 days. I am also with the passion in getting $100 per day out of this course,

I am planning to file my "road to adsense success" in a blog, what you guys think? Or i should continue sharing the experience here?

SImon

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Wow,

Love the conversation that is happening.

I am also looking into High paying CPC low comp keywords. I have 2 sites that are carrying my adsense. The others have a 1% CTR which is kinda scary.

@euhlir: I understand your concern. Trust me I do. But I have one site that earns $3-4/daily. The only problem/challenge is that my other 9 dont. hehehehehehhahaha.

Now if I can only multiply that site.

Guys for this month I am avg $3/day. wooot! Slowly getting up there.

I am working on this new template and it has yielded me the best CTR so far. Its at 50%. The clicks are very low paying though. Its been up for 3 days so far.

Lets go guy's we can accomplish $100/day.

Remember:
Provide Quality and you will get Quality Money!

[l23bc]

man! you warriors really raised the bar just about to go bed thinking how the **ll am i suppost to get adsense clicks as its been bugging me for weeks now and i am glad i have bookedmarked this post

heres my problem, my site is sat at page one at the very top out of 44 million other websites however im just getting 1,5,6 clicks a day if possibile and i have a ctr of 1.43% so far form last month have only made £1.98 or in dollars thats $3 i think not too sure on exchange rate, some days i have been on the top of google yet no traffic, so frustrating however my other site is on bing page 1 also and yahoo page one 7 down but no were to be seen on google.

I have been very slow at link building and blog comment also to make it look natural,have checked my keywords and there very low competition, sorted out my meta tags and headers,footers ect,

would really like some advice to them people here who are saying im making $5 a day or 100 a day as i must be missing out on something,

also i have some good pr blog comments and high directory submits on my site to plug traffic but when i do a backlink check i dont see the pr or links, how long does it take google to realise my pages have pr links

andy

[simonheng82]

although you are competing with millions of site out there, but did you make a research on the search counts? I do have a site with 3.3mil competitions, but the exact search only 880 per months, i am in the 4th spot for this keyword and having average 1-2 clicks per day, CTR 3-4%.....

In contrast to this, i have a also a site with 4K search per month, but the competitions only 200K, that is how it works, having high competitions doesnt means that you would have high search. Just my 0.02.

Simon

[euhlir]

Don't get me wrong Adsense is a viable way to make money. There are just so many people following Xfactor's method exactly and then wondering why they aren't making $5/site.

With the amount of work that you'd have to do with xfactor's method it just doesn't seem to pay off well for those who follow it exactly. There are easier ways to get great backlinks than writing 15-20 articles per site.

If you look for ways to improve on his system then it may be worth it, but always think about the time you're investing and the payment you're receiving.

If you have no problem spending 8-10 hours on a site to earn $7/month and having to keep it updated with fresh articles then that's your decision. You could write 1 article for a client and earn that in 15 minutes.

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by euhlir

Don't get me wrong Adsense is a viable way to make money. There are just so many people following Xfactor's method exactly and then wondering why they aren't making $5/site.

With the amount of work that you'd have to do with xfactor's method it just doesn't seem to pay off well for those who follow it exactly. There are easier ways to get great backlinks than writing 15-20 articles per site.

If you look for ways to improve on his system then it may be worth it, but always think about the time you're investing and the payment you're receiving.

If you have no problem spending 8-10 hours on a site to earn $7/month and having to keep it updated with fresh articles then that's your decision. You could write 1 article for a client and earn that in 15 minutes.

Very Interesting. I understand your point but would have to disagree on the earnings potential. The example you gave is of a taxi cab business. "Fare" business. Once you are done working with the client, then there is no earnings.

The beauty with adsense site is the perpetual income without being married to the end result. Also the scalability of the business model. In order to earn more you must produce more with the traditional method. But with adsense you can have only a handful sites that earn you more and more without the same relation to producing those sites.

[mjbaker]

Originally Posted by l23bc

heres my problem, my site is sat at page one at the very top out of 44 million other websites however im just getting 1,5,6 clicks a day if possibile and i have a ctr of 1.43% so far form last month have only made £1.98 or in dollars thats $3 i think
andy

Andy,

What is the search count estimate for Broad or Phrase or Exact?

And, are you logged out of your Google account when you check your ranking?

Mike

[thmgoodw]

Originally Posted by andyj00

This is a helpful thread.

Ok, my experiance with my Xfactor type Adsense sites:

I have 5 sites and last month they made a total of £73 which is around $120. Fairly pleased with that but no-where near what Xfactor says in his course. He says we should be getting an average of $5 a day, per site. I'm getting $0.80 a day, quite a way off.

Now I get a great CTR on the whole so the only way to get anywhere near $5 is I'd need SHED loads of traffic.

I have around 20 ezine articles for each site and have done Angelas backlinks.
I'm guessing I'd have to double or treble the amount of articles written for each site. How long would that take? Or would I be better off starting more new miche niche sites? It's difficult to know what to do for the best.

I'm not moaning - merely stating the facts in black and white

If your CTR rate is great, then as you noticed the issue is with your traffic. That is, you're not getting any.

You have to keep in mind that by some estimates the #1 ranking in Google gets up to 40% of the organic clickthrough traffic.

I think Xfactor's book has great information on a how to think about an adsense template and what types of keywords you should be going after, but if you really want to do well you should absorb everything that you can in this forum about ranking well in Google.

As for the mass article writing thing, as others have stated as well, I find that a bit too old school for my tastes.

[hamburglar]

@euhlir


One of my sites is officially making $5/DAY.

So to everyone thinks that it doesn't work, it does

IT JUST TAKES TIME and persistence.

My first day that I hit $7!!! yay!

The new theme works wonders.

[euhlir]

Congrats hamburglar.

There's no doubt Adsense does pay off, coming from someone also making money from it everyday.

How many niche sites are you up to now?

[hamburglar]

I have 12.

yourself?