Road to Adsense Success

[simonheng82]

i have 3 out of 15 indexed site since 2 weeks ago are earning consistently $2 per day, the rest are average in $0.5 to 0.8 YTD.

I am submitting 2-3 articles per day to directories consistently for all the 15 sites, will see how the SERP goes after 1 month from now.

Simon

[Retired]

Originally Posted by thmgoodw

As for the mass article writing thing, as others have stated as well, I find that a bit too old school for my tastes.

So if article writing is old school, what's the new way?

[simonheng82]

You say this is old school meaning that you are expecting instant result, AM will not give you instant success but you should look at it in long term.

Simon

[tjcocker]

Keep it up hamburglar, I like checking in to see how you're doing. We both started at about the same time and are on almost the same pace. You're beating me in money/day tho...

I think $5/day per site is doable, but we'll need to weed through a lot of BS niches before figuring out the really good ones like XFactor. Just because someone has put up a site and tweaked it a little doesn't mean you should base your entire opinion on that. Some of my sites get visitors, but no clicks. Some get 20%+ CTR. A recent Halloween site was earning me $2-$4/day, until November. Now, nada. Back to maybe $1/day

There are so many details and factors in this sort of work that it's practically impossible to say anything with any certainty. You just need to keep testing and trying new things.

Threads like this help us all so we don't have to completely reinvent the wheel. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

[nettech]

Well done Hamburglar, its nice to see you slowly and surely achieving your target. One of my sites just jumped up from position 10, then was sitting at 7 and now has jumped up to 6th woo hoooo and I can see how much of a difference it makes.

[simonheng82]

I think it is time to update my road to adsense success again today, i have built a total of 15 sites 3 weeks ago, 10 out of 15 are ranked with the main keyword in first page, 5 of the rest, 3 is in the 2nd page and 2 out of nowhere. I am quite happy with the result as i have only submitted 1 article to buzzle for each site, for sure, i will be keep on submitting to other directories in the near future. YTD earning is $70 and CTR at 20-30%, but i feel that there is still room to improve in term of CTR by the means of changing the template (FYI. i am not using Xfactor type of template)

today i have purchased 6 more domains with exact keyword in the domain, but one of them having the word "store" at the back of the keyword, reason is i dont want to lose the chance in getting the piece of cake from the big pie (9000 searches with SOC14), for sure, i will be updating how is the result from this site in the coming future. Anyway, target to up all these sites in 3 days.

This thread getting slow recently, come on guys, share your experience here to help each others. See you soon.

Simon

[hamburglar]

Hey Simon,

It is excellent to read your progress.

My progress thus far has been good. I hit $10/day with one of my sites.

I now have a pool of 20 sites. I am concentrating on building those up now. Add more content pages, get better backlinks. There is not point in building more if these are not generating revenue.

One more thing.

1 site that generated good revenue got delisted/banned whatever. I think I know why and am very upset about this. My content was great. There were 2 other Xfactor type sites. They also got delisted.

But this other guy COPIED my site word for word. Even the domain was mine except pluralized. WTF!!!

So now I have changed up my templates and how my content is displayed/written. If google got me then its just a matter of time until they get the others. So for the next little while, I am focusing on building kick ass 20 niche sites that are much MORE than just simple product reviews.

[Zinc Web Design]

Could google be stamping down on these xfactor layouts? Is that possible?

[euhlir]

@Zinc

Google wouldn't ban a website just for it's layout. Google only wants the best sites to show up in its rankings so if you're site offers no value to a visitor, or is spammy, then yes there is a chance of it getting deindexed.

If your site offers valuable content to a visitor then it will likely stick, if google ever does a manual review.

[sarasayshi]

Originally Posted by simonheng82

I think it is time to update my road to adsense success again today, i have built a total of 15 sites 3 weeks ago, 10 out of 15 are ranked with the main keyword in first page, 5 of the rest, 3 is in the 2nd page and 2 out of nowhere. I am quite happy with the result as i have only submitted 1 article to buzzle for each site, for sure, i will be keep on submitting to other directories in the near future. YTD earning is $70 and CTR at 20-30%, but i feel that there is still room to improve in term of CTR by the means of changing the template (FYI. i am not using Xfactor type of template)

today i have purchased 6 more domains with exact keyword in the domain, but one of them having the word "store" at the back of the keyword, reason is i dont want to lose the chance in getting the piece of cake from the big pie (9000 searches with SOC14), for sure, i will be updating how is the result from this site in the coming future. Anyway, target to up all these sites in 3 days.

This thread getting slow recently, come on guys, share your experience here to help each others. See you soon.

Simon

Simon, I am interested to find out how well you do with adding a word onto the domain. I have found that out of the 3 domains I added a word to, none of them are near ranking on page 1 or even page 2 yet and they are all about 1 month old.

[Tammy1]

Hamburglar,

I have a suggestion for you to try if you wish along the lines of goal setting. I am a professional weight loss coach in the real world and I help clients set goals that keep them moving. One of the most important things is that they set goals that they can control. So, my clients don't set goals of "I'm going to lose X lbs. by..." because they really can't control that. What happens if they don't? They get discouraged and it can slow them down or worse.

I also do business coaching, and after having such great success with eliminating that type of goal with my weight loss clients, I decided to incorporate the principle into my business coaching. Here is how it works in case you want to give it some thought:

It's great to set a dollar amount that you are looking forward to, but to set it as your goal - in other words what keeps you moving, can be be defeating if you don't reach it. Instead - set behavioral goals. These you CAN control. For example, how much time you spend, how many new posts, pages, sites, etc. Keep a written list of your behavior goals along with a log of how well you are doing.

Then, put the dollar figures, the ones you previously had as goals, instead on a "dreamboard" - special landmarks you want to reach. So, there is no penalty for not reaching the dollar by a certain day - instead there is only a good feeling when you do reach them.

It's great to know you are after a certain amount, be it pounds lost or dollars gained - but for years I've seen how setting goals that you can control keep you motivated longer because your focus is positive and motivating.

If you don't want to try it, of course that's fine too, I just wanted to offer an alternative that might keep your energy up. Best of luck to you!!

[hamburglar]

^^^^

that is sheer gold and very much needed right now.

[32paul52]

I am following johns formula as well, but like spoken above- I am focusing on things I can control, like the building of the site.

These plans work well for me:

1.Saturday- brain storm 2 niches for week
2. Tuesday night- build first site (am using wordpress)
3. Wed night build second site

I the hand them to to an outsourcer to build the promotion articles, and keep moving.

At the early stages (the first month) I check my adsense every few days, but dont worry too much about ranking- more to focus on moving forward, rather than looking at the flowers ($)

All of the sites are making something- small at the moment- I expect google to jump up and down with them.(been around with SEO for a while...its all part of the process)

My main reason for outsourcing was so that I keep consistantly moving- we have all been there get tired- lose interest and not keep moving.

I asked willie crawford at a live event if he could sum up success online in one word- the answer was momentum....donald trump uses same word.

I believe its the challenges that come up, its how we solve them amd move forward- no excuses, just keep moving......make mistakes (I have a lot of usesless domains)...just keep moving an improve while in motion.........

Oh and keep focus.........

[simonheng82]

Hi Bro,
I feel your pain, i got the same "punishment" as well! I am not sure i mentioned this in my earlier post, but i have a site which is targeting wrong spelled keyword, it is doing extremely well in the first 4 months, and it earns me $30-40 per month (this is only a 1 page site with no maintenance at all in 4 months). it got delisted with the main keyword from 3rd spot in google, but the site is still indexed.....only getting 1-2 visitors per day with some clicks over the month

Originally Posted by hamburglar

Hey Simon,

It is excellent to read your progress.

My progress thus far has been good. I hit $10/day with one of my sites.

I now have a pool of 20 sites. I am concentrating on building those up now. Add more content pages, get better backlinks. There is not point in building more if these are not generating revenue.

One more thing.

1 site that generated good revenue got delisted/banned whatever. I think I know why and am very upset about this. My content was great. There were 2 other Xfactor type sites. They also got delisted.

But this other guy COPIED my site word for word. Even the domain was mine except pluralized. WTF!!!

So now I have changed up my templates and how my content is displayed/written. If google got me then its just a matter of time until they get the others. So for the next little while, I am focusing on building kick ass 20 niche sites that are much MORE than just simple product reviews.

[simonheng82]

Hi Sarasayshi,
From my 15 sites. i have one domain with the word "the" before the keyword, it is about 3 weeks now, still far behind listed in search result But i am keeping the momentum in building subpages for this site, hope it helps.

The second domain that bought recently is with the word "store" behind the keyword, still not indexed yet, for sure, i will update the progress very soon.

Simon

Originally Posted by sarasayshi

Simon, I am interested to find out how well you do with adding a word onto the domain. I have found that out of the 3 domains I added a word to, none of them are near ranking on page 1 or even page 2 yet and they are all about 1 month old.

[32paul52]

Hey guys,
Just an idea- maybe (if your interested) getting together on mastermind group via skype to talk about what is working in this strategy - (not the niches)

I great to network with those that are "doing"- thoughts?

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Retired

So if article writing is old school, what's the new way?

(1) profile backlinks on high PR domains
(2) dofollow blog commenting
(3) RSS feeds
(4) social bookmarking

For any of my sites that rank well, I always have under 5% of the links coming from articles or web 2.0 hubpages/squidoo type sites.

[simonheng82]

Lets do it! Count me in.

Simon

Originally Posted by 32paul52

Hey guys,
Just an idea- maybe (if your interested) getting together on mastermind group via skype to talk about what is working in this strategy - (not the niches)

I great to network with those that are "doing"- thoughts?

[Zinc Web Design]

Originally Posted by 32paul52

Hey guys,
Just an idea- maybe (if your interested) getting together on mastermind group via skype to talk about what is working in this strategy - (not the niches)

I great to network with those that are "doing"- thoughts?

Great idea, lets get this set up asap!

[Rozaidi]

What a great discussion. After 206 impressions and 4 clicks, I earned $2.39. The most difficult task is to get visitors ? I'm stuck.

[hamburglar]

Hey Guy's,

Awesome Idea about the skype.

Sorry about not posting for a while. Insanely busy at work.

PM me over the skype ID's if you guys want.

[Sarah Harris]

I'm definitely interested in a skype mastermind room please pm me as well!

[d101]

Originally Posted by XFactor

... when my forum is up soon ... a large group of you ... can build camaraderie and motivate each other...

... sounds great, John
looking forward to it
:-)

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by 32paul52

Hey guys,
Just an idea- maybe (if your interested) getting together on mastermind group via skype to talk about what is working in this strategy - (not the niches)

I great to network with those that are "doing"- thoughts?

Count me in as well. Just PM me with the Skype info and the schedule.

[hamburglar]

I was reading clickbump's thread and now it has disappeared.

Anyone know what happened?

[clickbump]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

I was reading clickbump's thread and now it has disappeared.

Anyone know what happened?

Hi there Hamburglar. I'm not holding my breath, but I put in a support ticket to the support desk this morning to find out what happened. We had a ton of useful step by step instructional material in there. Good thing I had my tabs open overnight. I was able to archive every comment from both pages.

I will be posting some of the step by step stuff (and have already started) in different threads over time, but it sure was convenient to have it all in one digestable thread.

I'll keep you posted. Thanks for asking. Especially in your own thread :-)

Back to regularly scheduled programming...

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by clickbump

Hi there Hamburglar. I'm not holding my breath, but I put in a support ticket to the support desk this morning to find out what happened. We had a ton of useful step by step instructional material in there. Good thing I had my tabs open overnight. I was able to archive every comment from both pages.

I will be posting some of the step by step stuff (and have already started) in different threads over time, but it sure was convenient to have it all in one digestable thread.

I'll keep you posted. Thanks for asking. Especially in your own thread :-)

Back to regularly scheduled programming...

Click Bump,

You are my Hero.

Your plan in your thread is gold. No one has to go anywhere (buy Johns Ebook) or anything. Your steps are so clear cut. I am indebted to you for sharing.

I wanted to copy and paste your info into this thread so I can refer back to it. I know it will soon get taken over by many questions that have been answered over and over again. This is what happened to John's original thread and became 30 pages of 10% real and 90% fluff.

I am grateful for the information you have provided.

[sarasayshi]

I also thought your thread was most helpful clickbump. I hope they reopen it.

[Ethan F.]

I was also learning a lot from your thread clickbump, then I refreshed it to see if any new posts.. and poof gone like magic. :P

[simonheng82]

A small update today, after 4 weeks of of evaluation, i would like to conclude that 4 keyword phrase of domain doesnt work well in SERP ranking (at least for me).

I have built two domain with 4 exact keyword phrase, not the one with "the" or "store" in the keyword is not ranking in the first 20 pages with 3 articles submitted to 3 different directories.

For my future adsense venture, i will definitely ignore 4 keyword phrase domain, but only look for maximum 3 keyword phrase.

This finding is observed from my project, if you are able to rank well with 4 keyword phrase, please feel free to share your idea or method in getting that done. Thanks.

Simon

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by simonheng82

A small update today, after 4 weeks of of evaluation, i would like to conclude that 4 keyword phrase of domain doesnt work well in SERP ranking (at least for me).

I have built two domain with 4 exact keyword phrase, not the one with "the" or "store" in the keyword is not ranking in the first 20 pages with 3 articles submitted to 3 different directories.

For my future adsense venture, i will definitely ignore 4 keyword phrase domain, but only look for maximum 3 keyword phrase.

This finding is observed from my project, if you are able to rank well with 4 keyword phrase, please feel free to share your idea or method in getting that done. Thanks.

Simon

I also second this motion

I have 2 domains that are with 4 words. Do not work at all. SOC is 0 on them Search Volume exact is 6k. For some reason they don't even break the 100 barrier.

Sticking to 3 keyword domains from now on.

[simonheng82]

Hi dude, thanks for supporting my finding, hope to listen more comments from the crowd out there.

Simon

[discrat]

Originally Posted by simonheng82

A small update today, after 4 weeks of of evaluation, i would like to conclude that 4 keyword phrase of domain doesnt work well in SERP ranking (at least for me).

I have built two domain with 4 exact keyword phrase, not the one with "the" or "store" in the keyword is not ranking in the first 20 pages with 3 articles submitted to 3 different directories.

For my future adsense venture, i will definitely ignore 4 keyword phrase domain, but only look for maximum 3 keyword phrase.

This finding is observed from my project, if you are able to rank well with 4 keyword phrase, please feel free to share your idea or method in getting that done. Thanks.

Simon

Are you kidding me?? 4 weeks evalaution. Try 4 years evaluation and then give me a
call !! In all due respect , I find this notion totally inaccurate. I have 14 blogs and most of them have Keywords of 4 or more in the Domain. And they are all doing fine in the serps.

I find what you say just not supported in my case and many others I know about.

So I guess we agree to disagree !!

[stoaf88]

If they deleted your thread just so other members could make money selling your information then this forum has truly taken a turn for the worst.

Why would they delete such a great thread with tons of info unless they don't want us to have it for free?

Keep us updated clickbump.

You should repost the thread on the other popular forum, I highly doubt they will delete it.

[Zinc Web Design]

Which thread is this?

[IskandarX]

the good and awesome journal. This step by step of create by you may also following by other publisher in future. Better if you make ebook for it?

[offrav]

4 week evaluation for a 4 exact keyword phrase is too short of a time. it takes time to get good ranking. we all just have to be patient!

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by offrav

4 week evaluation for a 4 exact keyword phrase is too short of a time. it takes time to get good ranking. we all just have to be patient!

I totally agree. I am using domain names with a 3 word keyword plus an appended word (like store), and I am finding my website is slowly climbing the SERPs for my targeted keywords.

Also, since I track all clicks to my site, I rank on the first page for long-tails that I am not targeting.

It is way too early to judge domain name strategies with just a few articles and only a month.

Keep in mind, driving traffic to your website is critical: the more articles submitted, forum and blog postings, RSS submissions, etc. that you create, the more back links and traffic you will get. As a result, the higher you will climb in the SERPs.

[clickbump]

Originally Posted by stoaf88

If they deleted your thread just so other members could make money selling your information then this forum has truly taken a turn for the worst.

Why would they delete such a great thread with tons of info unless they don't want us to have it for free?

Keep us updated clickbump.

You should repost the thread on the other popular forum, I highly doubt they will delete it.

To be perfectly clear, I've not insinuated that the "My first $100 dollar day on Xfactor method" thread was deleted because of the reasons you've indicated. But I understand the spirit of what you are trying to say. I don't believe that's the case.

My sense is that someone posted something late in the evening, that got the thread removed, but I'm just speculating as well as you...

I know there were a few members that had not participated in the thread, that posted some comments just before midnight, when I last visited the thread before morning, questioning the motives and purposes of the thread, because my sig, like a few other 1000s of people on WF, is pimping a product.

I've opened a support ticket to get to the bottom of it, and if they answer it, and allow me to share the reasons, I certainly will.

I'm a teacher by heart and success is best felt when shared. My feeling is that nothing is truly ours anyway, its all on loan. So sharing success is only a natural reaction to that perspective and world view.

Anyway, I don't want to keep hijacking Hamburglers thread, but to avoid more questions on it, I hope this clears it up until I know something definitive...

[WareTime]

Grab the cached version
My first $100 dollar day on Xfactor method site:warriorforum.com

[mgcstrat]

Originally Posted by WareTime

Grab the cached version
My first $100 dollar day on Xfactor method site:warriorforum.com

Thanks for the tip. I just pasted all the tips into Word.

[ronb107]

Originally Posted by WareTime

Grab the cached version
My first $100 dollar day on Xfactor method site:warriorforum.com

Is this the .NET vs .ORG Real World live test with XFactor method?

Thanks.
Ron

[simonheng82]

Originally Posted by discrat

Are you kidding me?? 4 weeks evalaution. Try 4 years evaluation and then give me a
call !! In all due respect , I find this notion totally inaccurate. I have 14 blogs and most of them have Keywords of 4 or more in the Domain. And they are all doing fine in the serps.

I find what you say just not supported in my case and many others I know about.

So I guess we agree to disagree !!

That is the comment that we need, some may find success with 4 word phrase and some may not, if you found the success, why dont you share the tips with us? You mentioned that you have 14 blogs that are doing well in the serp, are we talking about the exact keyword here? You further comment is highly appreciated.

Originally Posted by ronb107

I totally agree. I am using domain names with a 3 word keyword plus an appended word (like store), and I am finding my website is slowly climbing the SERPs for my targeted keywords.

Also, since I track all clicks to my site, I rank on the first page for long-tails that I am not targeting.

It is way too early to judge domain name strategies with just a few articles and only a month.

Keep in mind, driving traffic to your website is critical: the more articles submitted, forum and blog postings, RSS submissions, etc. that you create, the more back links and traffic you will get. As a result, the higher you will climb in the SERPs.

THanks for the advice, lets monitor since i have another 11 months to go for domain renewal

SImon

[hamburglar]

I have just launched 3 new sites that with incorporating the information that clickbump had on his thread. I was trying to find the thread but I couldn't.

Here is what he said.
1) Search a Niche like a mad man
2) Find anything above 2500 Exact matches
3) Green light = if there are at least 3 PR 0 or PR -(n/a) sites in the top 10.
4) Buy KMD, if .org or .net taken then go to step 6.
5) Move on.

Simple and concise. I hope I did not miss anything.

Will post my results based on clickbumps method.

[Bounderby]

Yeah, you missed step 6

[hamburglar]

Oh I did,

I meant step 5.

[stoaf88]

yea I just launched 5 sites with the clickbump method I will repost with my results as well

[rovad]

Try google-your-rank dot com (can't post links cuz i dont have 15 posts yet heh) fancy little tool that will save your time on finding your site keyword rankings. I have kind of a different, my own approach, because I am testing a new system which can supposedly make your site appear on 10 or even dozen keywords on Google page 1.

I won't tell you the name for now until I verify it myself, all I can say it is not black-hat, and so far I got google page 1 for 2 keywords and google page 2 for another 2 phrases with only 13 or 14 articles submited. If I manage to get top 3-4 rankings i'll let you know.

[ronb107]

Have you guys formed the Skype group?

If possible, I would like to join.

Thanks,
Ron

[clickbump]

Originally Posted by hamburglar

I have just launched 3 new sites that with incorporating the information that clickbump had on his thread. I was trying to find the thread but I couldn't.

Here is what he said.
1) Search a Niche like a mad man
2) Find anything above 2500 Exact matches (that has ad support)
3) Green light = if there are at least 3 PR 0 or PR -(n/a) sites in the top 10.
4) Buy (exact match domains only), if .org AND .net taken then go to step 5.
5) Move on (to next site).

Simple and concise. I hope I did not miss anything.

Will post my results based on clickbumps method.

Hamburglar, I think you've pretty much nailed it. I've just amended your comments with a few clarifications in bold face...

Sorry to get here so late. Folks over at XF forums been keeping me busy (in a good kinda way)...