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Old 11-17-2009, 02:25 AM   #301
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Must be the same guy who copied my site word for word, except I had the org domain and he took the net. I've changed my site around as well completely and from what I see, he's nowhere to be found in the SERPS and I'm #3 but it does suck to see people like that who only want to easy and unethical way out...

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goodluck too..for your succes..
We will be more than happy to help you if you can post a little more constructive post rather than pumping up your post counts.

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(1) profile backlinks on high PR domains
(2) dofollow blog commenting
(3) RSS feeds
(4) social bookmarking

For any of my sites that rank well, I always have under 5% of the links coming from articles or web 2.0 hubpages/squidoo type sites.
Yes, but Article Backlinks are high value and they stick... Especially if they come from places like EzineArticles. It's important however to vary the anchor texts of the backlinks.

RSS, social bookmarking and blog are all nice and fine... but they tend to work rather short-term... unless you keep on promoting your sites every day...

and for a "normal" human being there usually comes a limit to the number of sites one can promote simultaneously... Long term strategies might be slower, but they tend to stick.

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Great post and realistic goals...

I"m making around $20/day, and trying to increase to $50/day....
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Great post and realistic goals...

I"m making around $20/day, and trying to increase to $50/day....

How many sites do you have up? How many produce and how many are duds?
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I have a suggestion for you to try if you wish along the lines of goal setting. I am a professional weight loss coach in the real world and I help clients set goals that keep them moving. One of the most important things is that they set goals that they can control. So, my clients don't set goals of "I'm going to lose X lbs. by..." because they really can't control that. What happens if they don't? They get discouraged and it can slow them down or worse.
Awesome post Tammy!

Another thing that I believe is critical, particularly in the niche research phase, is to get (and stay) inspired. I find that my thoughts and actions are much more prosperous when I'm working from a position of power and strength rather than not.

There are tons of things that make one inspired and we are all different in that regard.

I get inspired by music. It moves me. So when that happens, I can get into an indescribable zone where things just start to open up and skies are bluer and my appreciation and receptivity to things around me are much clearer and vibrant - my focus becomes laserlike.

I start to notice things I would otherwise be blind to, my subconcious becomes my concious. I've found some incredible niches and project ideas this way. And even on days when things didn't work out as well as I'd prefer, I'm still better for the time.

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Just on the point of a new word press site, if you apply for a Google Adsense account, chances are you will be declined unless you have some original content on your blog that is.

Google is far more choosy about who gets adsense accounts these days. I kid ye not
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nice. thanks.
any chance for your old thread to be back? (i meant the clickbump thread) i am kicking myself for not writing down some notes. someone said to grab the cache version in google. that one i cant even get.
anyway, you guys have been inspiring me to go the adsense right first in my plan to crack IM.
go go go!!!!

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Your given website is really working.

But however search ranking is not 100% accurate. But good to know approx and near rank as well.

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Try google-your-rank dot com (can't post links cuz i dont have 15 posts yet heh) fancy little tool that will save your time on finding your site keyword rankings. I have kind of a different, my own approach, because I am testing a new system which can supposedly make your site appear on 10 or even dozen keywords on Google page 1.

I won't tell you the name for now until I verify it myself, all I can say it is not black-hat, and so far I got google page 1 for 2 keywords and google page 2 for another 2 phrases with only 13 or 14 articles submited. If I manage to get top 3-4 rankings i'll let you know.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:19 PM   #311
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nice. thanks.
any chance for your old thread to be back? (i meant the clickbump thread) i am kicking myself for not writing down some notes. someone said to grab the cache version in google. that one i cant even get.
anyway, you guys have been inspiring me to go the adsense right first in my plan to crack IM.
go go go!!!!
I haven't heard back from mods on that. Gonna give them a bit more time to respond and we'll see. I've been responding to appropriate threads with much of the same techniques where applicable. Not as convenient as having it in one digestable thread, but it spreads the love around ;-)

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Scott, what do you think about reviving that thread on your blog?
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Hey Scott,

Would love it if it were posted in an area. I am still waiting for the results of your technique. One thing that I am most concerned with is that I have around 25 sites launched and am only doing $5/day. It has been that way since I had 10 sites. 20 are indexed and about 15 are in top 20.

The target of reaching $50/day or $100/day seems almost impossible from where I am.

I am now spending a crazy amount of time researching niche's. If I take my time with the niche's then hopefully everything will fall in place.

Another thing, is Xfactor forum worth the $30? Anything of value that I cannot find here?

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Re Sype group.
Hi guys I had a couple of people join the Skype disccussion and an hopping to set up a metting next week.

Skype: digitalawol

For those that are working Xfaxtor/clickbumbs process.....

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Question for Clickbump or anyone else that knows.

Sometimes when I research a niche there may only be 1 or 2 pr0 domains in the top ten, but when I look at the results the other pages that are higher pr are not even optimized for that term.

Like lets say the keyword is Ivory soap.

The 2 pr0 domains will be titled Ivory soap and be optimized for that exact term but the others are saying stuff like soap or dish soap and stuff like that and I think the only reason they are in top 10 is because they are high pr and have 1 of the keywords.

Would it be possible to break into these kind of niches?

Or should I just move on when there are not 3 pr0/- domains?
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Hi guys I had a couple of people join the Skype disccussion and an hopping to set up a metting next week.

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count me in if im not at work let me know when it is
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Hi guys I had a couple of people join the Skype disccussion and an hopping to set up a metting next week.

Skype: digitalawol

For those that are working Xfaxtor/clickbumbs process.....
Scott, good call.

I will add you soon.

Been hell week #million at work.

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Hey Scott,

Would love it if it were posted in an area. I am still waiting for the results of your technique. One thing that I am most concerned with is that I have around 25 sites launched and am only doing $5/day. It has been that way since I had 10 sites. 20 are indexed and about 15 are in top 20.

The target of reaching $50/day or $100/day seems almost impossible from where I am.

I am now spending a crazy amount of time researching niche's. If I take my time with the niche's then hopefully everything will fall in place.

Another thing, is Xfactor forum worth the $30? Anything of value that I cannot find here?
Sometimes its easy to lose focus.

Keep in mind, that all you really need is:

(1) Traffic/Visitors (combination of keyword search volume, search engine ranking and using appropriate titles and meta descriptions);

(2) Good CTR;

(3) decent Cost/Click through Adsense.

Since yu are average 25 cents per day, it seems that the issue is with #1. How many backlinks to your indexed sites do you have? For me, I consider a site wasted if it isn't on the first page of google. 2nd page is crap. Of course you want #1, but if you aren't first page you aren't going to be getting any clicks.

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Scott, what do you think about reviving that thread on your blog?
As usual, we are on the same page ;-)

I'll try to get it going before the end of the week.

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Question for Clickbump or anyone else that knows.

Sometimes when I research a niche there may only be 1 or 2 pr0 domains in the top ten, but when I look at the results the other pages that are higher pr are not even optimized for that term.

Like lets say the keyword is Ivory soap.

The 2 pr0 domains will be titled Ivory soap and be optimized for that exact term but the others are saying stuff like soap or dish soap and stuff like that and I think the only reason they are in top 10 is because they are high pr and have 1 of the keywords.

Would it be possible to break into these kind of niches?

Or should I just move on when there are not 3 pr0/- domains?
Your logic is sound and I would trust your instincts and go forward under these conditions. Its a roadmap with many paths that lead to the same destination (ymmv)...

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Got the introduction and backstory complete > http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/cl...ng-thread.html

So maybe I can quit hijacking hamburglars thread now! Sorry HB

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Got the introduction and backstory complete > http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/cl...ng-thread.html

So maybe I can quit hijacking hamburglars thread now! Sorry HB
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"Find anything above 2500 Exact matches"

so we want 2500+ or more exact matches? I'm not understanding this. I thought the lesser the better?
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"Find anything above 2500 Exact matches"

so we want 2500+ or more exact matches? I'm not understanding this. I thought the lesser the better?
I don't think he means "matches" as in competition, but searches monthly.

So, a KWP without at least 2,500 searches monthly (using "EXACT" filtering) is tossed.

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Hey guys, first of all, excellent thread.
I just had a question regarding back links.

When you say you are writing 15 articles for each site, are you referring to writing articles linking back to just the homepage??

IE: if i have a site with a homepage, then 5 sub pages, would you individually be writing articles back linking to each sub page as well? or just the homepage?

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I have a formula that may help some. Let me know if your interested.
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i'm interested. please share
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yeah please share pavionjsl, what cha got?
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Hey guys, first of all, excellent thread.
I just had a question regarding back links.

When you say you are writing 15 articles for each site, are you referring to writing articles linking back to just the homepage??

IE: if i have a site with a homepage, then 5 sub pages, would you individually be writing articles back linking to each sub page as well? or just the homepage?

Thanks in advance!
I link to the sub pages as well. Each article has 2 links in resource box. One goes to home page and the other goes to sub page.

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what exact phrase matches and SOC are you guys looking or have noticed produced better niches? Is there a rule of thumb for some ratio to look for, or what #'s to look for?
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For instance:
Global search: 5,400 Exact Phrase match: 26,300 SOC: 46
I'm ranked #37 for my main keyword (first niche i did...only made $0.03 in 2 weeks) probably a bad niche to get into. Fighting against page rank 2, 3, + for this niche.
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Global search: 1,300 Exact phrase: 8490 SOC:20
I thought this niche looked juicy. I'm not even ranked for my keyword at all. out of 600 results. There's a lot of pr 0, 1 & 2 on the first 10 listings. What am I doing wrong?
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GS: 4,400 EPM: 16,800 SOC: 9
Ranked around 250 for main keyword (took 2 weeks)
A couple of unranked and pr 0 on 1st page....I thought this looked great...

Are my metrics off? any suggestions are appreciated.
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How To make 15K a month at AdSense
here's how it's done:

Start with keyword lists from adsenseheaven dot com which guesstimates the most expensive keywords to bid on in the PPC AdWords side of the Google ad world. I generally ignore the top 1000, as they are very competitive and saturated. I am not concerned with the top payouts.

Store this data every month in a mySQL database with the previous months data, and over time I am able to see which phrases are consistently in the lists and unlikely to disappear. I call them long term performers.

Cross check each phrase with the number of pages currently indexed in google, to see how much competition there is for a each key phrase. It's usually easier to land a top 10 first page SERP position if there is less competition for the phrase.

Also cross check each phrase with google trends data which has an RSS feed which is also collected and stored in a seperate SQL database hourly. If an adsenseheaven keyphrase is found to appear in my Google trends history database, it's flagged as hot. If there's less than a million indexed pages it's further flagged as a top candidate for a dedicated microsite armada.

Once a month after the new list is released analyze the data after it's been processed and I pick a shortlist of hot key phrases that I am going to ramp up over the next few weeks.

For this lesson the phrase selected is 'Acai Berry'.

The estimated cost for the top position according to the adsense heaven list is $19, and it also appears multiple times in my Google trends history data. That means It Will probably going to make at least $5 for each AdSense click, and there's a lot of people searching for it.

Head over your favorite registrar and find a domain name which contains the keyword at the beginning of the domain. Contrary to popular belief, the gTLD is irrelevant. I find that .info works just as well as a .com with all things otherwise equal.

Get the new domain's DNS setup, and your webserver configured. Install your favorite Open Source CMS into the Docroot and pick a nice template which looks clean. Avoid dark colored themes. Make a nice graphic for your site logo position which contains your root keyword. (yes googlebots can read keywords with OCR in your site logo images).

You now have the framework for your microsite, and a place to put your articles.
Now we're going to mine long tail keywords for the selected phrase to use as subjects of my microsite subpages based on the root keyphrase. I use a couple different places for this, a good one for noobs is freekeywords.wordtracker.com. Then input the root phrase 'Acai Berry' and save the top 50 results into a text file. For this example we will limit to the top 5 after the root.

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7,401 searches (top 100 only)
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4679 acai berry <- ignored, it's the root phrase
371 acai berries <- variant of root phase
238 acai berry supreme 1
220 acai berry information 2
181 acai berry research 3
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You can use however many you want. The more you have, the bigger your site will be, and the more expensive it will be to ramp up.

I outsource most of my article writing to Justin at No Doubt Marketing. I pay them around $8 for each original article, and they are not scraped together garbage. I order 1 article for each long tail keyphrase. In 12-24 hours they'll begin arriving in a steady stream to my inbox. It's not uncommon to have 25-50 articles for your project. Your goal is to build a site which contains everything someone would ever want to know about your root keyword. It's also not uncommon for me to have $500-$1000 into each microsite by the time it's done. But, I make that back in two days.

There are lots of other article writing services out there, and there is a lot of grey area. Some are more readable than others, and the general rule is you get what you pay for. I spent a few months testing all the top ghostwriters who advertised their services on digitalpoint, and some are very bad. I do not use scraped articles or spun articles from aggregation sites like ezinearticles.

Now you have some original high quality meat for your microsite which is truly original content and is highly targetted for each long tail keyphrase. Create a content item on your CMS for each one, putting the longtail phrase in a H1 tag, the Title, and the Meta description. Do not make the title and meta description identical or the latter will be ignored. Insert the article, and do your html markup to split it into paragraphs, and add floating divs for your google adsense and CPA offers.

Over the course of the next few weeks, repeat this process as your longtail articles arrive. By the third week you will have a pretty large site which is very useful and informative. It doesn't read like it was written by robots.

At the same time, you work on link building. I will look at who is already ranking for the keyphrases I am looking to rank for, and I will attempt to contact each of the webmasters. It's easy to do a whois lookup on a domain (firefox has a plugin to do it from serp pages) and fire off an email to them. If they have a working phone number listed (they are required to) give them a call. I have a vonage account so I get unlimited long distance. I also have a telemarketing background so I am good at cold calling webmasters and socially engineering them into adding links.

You will mostly get voicemails, so leave a nice message which is very brief and explains you have a relevant website which wants to become link partners. When you get the webmaster on the phone live, tell him how great their website is, how you added a link to it on your blogroll, and how it would help their rankings to link to your related site which is full of good content.
Some people will tell you to go screw yourself, so you just move on. There are going to be hundreds of thousands of other sites to contact, so don't spend too much time with each one. I will ask them for their AIM handles so I can keep track of them. (did I mention I create a new AIM/Gmail for each new microsite?)

There are lots of other ways to get links. I've tried most of them, and they all work. You can donate money to open source organizations which have a 'thank you' page. Most of them will include a link if your donation is over a certain threshhold. Check for nofollows and disallows in the robots.txt first.

You can do a google blog search for your keyword and post an on topic comment which contains a single link to your homepage. Most places will leave your comment in the moderation cue forever, but others will publish it. You have a better chance of your comment getting published if your comment contains the keywords they are trying to rank for. Blog owners don't want comments that throw their keyword density off.

You can search for forum posts using google which contain your keyword in the title tags and post a useful something into the thread. Don't just spam your URL or clearly it's going to get removed. It's also a good idea to make a few posts in other threads before you do any link dropping so you don't have 1 post when you do it

There is roughly 260 million websites which will give you a free blog. Create a new one everyday somewhere new and make a couple posts about your keyphrases. You can take snippits out of your articles and rewrite them into blog posts, or even purchase some of that 'low quality' filler articles I spoke of earlier and use that for your free blogs. Be sure to choose good anchors when linking to your main moneysite.

The bottom line is get as many links as you can, and spread them out as far apart as you can. You don't want to get too many links in a day or it will appear unnatural. So take your time, and work a little bit on each microsite every day. Try to make sure every microsite gets at least one quality inlink every single day from somewhere.

One final observation: The longer a Google AdSense unit has been deployed, the more it's worth. Some of my top performing units are several years old. I think after a certain time they're internally flagged and start to show the top paying ads.

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i think i already read this from BHW
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Would be nice if you gave credit to Doug for his post of 12-23-2008 at BHW.
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1. i read clickbump thread and follow his advice
2. I found keyword with 8100 exact searches, 3 PR 0 or PR -(n/a) sites in the top 10.
3. 14 november i buy exact domain with net TLD
4. yesterday my blog indexed by google
5. my adsense todays earning $1,73 (all from my new blog, before this day my highest is 0,12)

thanks clickbump, maybe i just got lucky but i'll repeat the process
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so you don't pay attention to SOC or Exact Phrase Count in MNF?
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i just use free Google Keyword Tool and check the top SERP manually
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I thought it was one of the best written guides ever. Guy does 15000 a month for real. Lot of work, and investment in time and money.
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Tell you all something else, it is mind blowing what you get here as a member........spend the 37.00 bucks......
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i just found a great niche, but has only 6 advertisers (in spyfu)...is that enough for ad support, or move on to the next niche? i know it should be 15-20 ideally...
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Plug it into google and check. Spyfu sometimes shows nothing yet there are 10-20 in google.
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i just found a great niche, but has only 6 advertisers (in spyfu)...is that enough for ad support, or move on to the next niche? i know it should be 15-20 ideally...
Spyfu is nice and all, but your own eyes work better.

You should do a search and look to see what ads are actually showing up. If it's 6-10 highly unrelated ads, people aren't going to click.

Also, if possible, click on a handful of sites in the SERPS and see if you can find sites with AdSense on them to see what ads are showing up, what stuff is being talked about, etc.

I pass on KWPs all day that I find where I could rank for them easily because the commercial intent and $$$ isn't there.

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Even though I did register here about a year ago I never gave the site enough attention. *hic* Now I know better. Go on we are with you all the way...
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I am getting way too caught up in not making any $$ recently. Surely I thought I would be hitting at least $20/day. I have 25 websites indexed and yet only make $5/day as I did since the end of last month. Moving on to the next site is becoming difficult because you never have any idea of how well it will rank.

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I am getting way too caught up in not making any $$ recently. Surely I thought I would be hitting at least $20/day. I have 25 websites indexed and yet only make $5/day as I did since the end of last month. Moving on to the next site is becoming difficult because you never have any idea of how well it will rank.

Anyone else encounter this or is it just me?
Have you taken a look at the sites that are not ranking well vs your sites that are, and noticed any different between them and their competitors?

There are a lot of unknowns when launching a new site, don't sweat them too much and become frozen.

One thing that I use when trading stocks is to keep a log, and write down why I was making the trade, what do I like it about. Then I come back when the trade was either a success or a failure and write down what went wrong or right. I then go back through this log every so often and always refresh myself on mistakes I made and things that worked well for me.

The same can be done when launching a site in a niche. Write down why you are doing it, competitor stats, any thing specific you are trying as far as SEO, how you went about building backlinks, etc. Then a week, 2weeks, a month later check out the site and see how well it worked out and take notes. Review your notes and Im sure you'll find some valuable information each time you do.

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THis is a vvery nice goal you have here. Keep up the work. Dont give up!
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HI Hamburglar, dont give up yet, you have just started since 1 month back and making $5 per day is already good enough, do you know that the folks out there even not able to make $0.05 per day.
My 0.02 is, you should continue to build backlink and get your site rank well, i am pretty sure that not more than 10 out of your 25 are in the first page? You should stop building new one and optimize the SERP.

I just build a blog to record my road to adsense success journey, i will never give up until i hit $100 per day. If the folks out there are able to make it, why dont us!

Keep it rolling dude, please!

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Just keep at it and don't give up. Just make sure all your sites are SEO'd and focus on that instead of trying to fire out loads of sites.

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