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I have about 25 websites. Only about 15 are ranking high. I have my 6th sense for keywords fine tuned. Also finding new niche's is very easy. Just finding the ones with good CTR is hard. |
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Congratulations on your progress hambrglar. This thread is very inspiring as I am attempting to build a steady income with adsense also. I have 4 sites, all with the keywords in the domain. Each has 20 articles pointing back to them, and have been social bookmarked at 20 sites, not to mention blog posting. However, None of my sites show up in any google serps. ![]() I am not a pro at web design so I use a wysiwyg editor to design my sites. Does this have a major impact on SEO? could this be my problem? ![]() If so do you have any pointers. Any advise would be appreciated... |
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hi embions, would you mind to disclose the keyword analysis data (i.e. soc, exact match etc)? Having keyword in the domain doesnt really means that you could rank well, based on my own research, a keyword with the following criteria works well: not more than 4 words soc <20 exact match competition <10,000 Just a small update on my progress, i have hit USD11 to USD14 in the past 1 week consistently, still working on submitting articles to directories and will update again after 2 weeks (2nd stage of my project-submit article)..... Good luck! Simon |
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My first 3 sites went to ****s. I thought I knew what worked and what didnt. I spent 3 weeks building content and backlinks. They never broke the first 100 page listing. But after that I started to learn how ranking works and keywords. Keyword Research is critical for any adsense/cpa success | |
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In one of the niches that I am concentrating on the amount of monthly searches is 5400 with an SOC of 12. The exact phrase count according to MNF is 7800. Google has 460,000 pages for the keywords that I am targeting. I have submitted 10 articles to ezines for this site, (6 have been approved), 5 to goarticles, and 5 to articlebiz. I have bookmarked to 20 sites, and about 7 or 8 blog comments. I am really kind of lost as to what to do next because all of my sites pretty much meet the same criteria as this one, I always focus on building sites with an SOC of less than 20 (preferably 15) some are as low as 4, and exact phrase match of less than 10,000 (one of my sites has an exact phrase match of only 736 and the SOC is only 2!) but I am still not ranking for these keywords but the domain name I purchased has 5 words in it, is that too many? ![]() I can't help but think that the problem may be in the site design/on page SEO. I have read that using a wysiwyg design can be bad because of the overuse of tables. The three sites that I am working on are only two weeks old though. I am just wondering if anyone has any tips? Should I change the software that I am using? (I use coffeecup), build more backlinks? ect. Thanks alot.... |
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In my personal experience, I have 5 sites up with 3 word domains that indexed within a week; all initially ranked within the top 10. On the other hand, I have 2 sites with 5 word domains that are indexed, but nowhere to be found in the SERPS. These phrases had less competition than my 3 word phrases that ranked within the top 10 in under a week. So I now stay away from domain names that have more than 3 words for ranking in ,less competitive niches. Just my two cents... | |
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Hi hamburglar, Can share with us, what kind of backlinks method you think its worth doing?? |
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I have no issues with ranking a website consisting of more than 3 keywords. My biggest earning X-Factor style adsense site is a 4 word exact domain match.org website that consistently produces ~$10/day. 12,000 Exact searches 8 - SOC ~7500 - competition in quotes. Its all in finding the right keywords if you ask me... Michael |
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Amen to that. I have stopped using MNF. My highest earning sites are made without the use of MNF. MNF SOC was 20+ for all of them. I launched them and as soon as they were indexed, I was spot 5 - 9. I personally feel MNF is a poor purchase decision. It is excellent to get started but once you develop your own hunch then it becomes very easy to rank. | |
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One other tidbit of information that has really opened up a lot more product related keywords for me is this: Articles of clothing seem to be Popular Searches, but like most keywords all the usual suspects are taken. However, by adding a simple prefix or suffix, you will find some real winners. Adding a color as the first word is a good start. Popular colors to start with are white, pink, and black. Examples: Flower Girl Dresses 110,000 exact searches All TLD's taken White Flower Girl Dresses 2900 exact searches .net and .org still available (as of this post) Ivory Flower Girl Dresses 2400 exact searches .net and .org still available (as of this post) Discount Flower Girl Dresses 1600 exact searches .org still available (as of this post) and if that doesn't help you, you can also try adding 'for boys', 'for girls', 'for men' or 'for women' to the end. Examples: Leather Bags 135000 exact searches All TLD's taken Leather Bags for Men 2400 exact searches .org still available (as of this post) and Congratulations to the first person reading this to take advantage of this one: Leather Bags for Women 1000 exact searches All TLD's AVAILABLE, YES EVEN THE .COM (as of this post) Think a little outside the box and don't rely solely on what MNF or Google Keyword Tool show as Keywords. Michael |
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I have never used MNF, but I think part of the problem is that it gives certain information like SOC (strength of competition), and gives a green light, yellow light, or red light on whethe r you should proceed. Many folks seem to be over relying on this end result, instead of actually analyzing the results and the top ten sites that are ranking for the word. If they see a green light they go forward, when maybe they shouldn't. | |
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| Yea, I didn't think it would take long for that one to disappear. These kind of keywords are out there it just takes a bit of time to find them. However, I found all those while looking for an example while typing the above post, so it only took me about 5 min or less... Michael |
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I also have an apple so I needed to install parallels to use it. This makes MNF very slow and poor. I bought it because XFactor used it and had his method. However, as I progressed in my campaigns, MNF became mundane to use (took 2 minutes to retrieve results). So I just HAD to find another way. I am so happy I did. Its completely free. Just simple google adwords keytool. Now, MNF might work for you, I am just telling you my approach. For me, I see no value in it. This SOC # is good for the people WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SERP IS. But honestly, SOC # is irrelevant to me after I have tested other proven personal methods that contradict MNF. Just my take on this. | |
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Ok well im glad to know I bought the right thing. MS! |
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Although I am following the strict rule of 3 pr0/- & 0 links with an EMD, I am still only seeing a small proportion of the sites landing on page one?? Usually the top of page two, the sites that are on page one, the highest is in #7 so still not really seeing any traffic. I have 17 sites up and make around $2 a day - best day has been $6, this is mainly due to long tails too. Do you think my severe lack of traffic is due to being below the fold of serp1 with every site?? To the OP, I am backlinking the sites did you have a similar issue up until your backlinking started to move your pages up in the serps? -thanks |
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Good question. I am in a similar position, all my sites are on the first page, but #7 and below. Going to slow down on making sites and work on tossing about 10-15 links to each of these sites a week via articles. I too am curious to know what the OP did in this kind of situation. | |
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Where are you back-linking from? I have seen some xfactor sites that all link to his other sites and vice versa. In theory creating a network of backlinks from pr 0 unrelated sites. My sites ranked from position 5 - 10, when indexed with 0 backlinks. 2 sites are on page 2 from the new method of CB but still earn me money. It is all about KW research. It has been said once, twice but a million times and I would die by that. KW research is critical. I have a site that is #35 that earns me $3/day sometimes. That does not make sense in my head but the KW is something that is very attractive. In regards to backlinks, I purchase high quality pr 4+ backlinks that are related to my site. I only need maybe 1 - 5 of those to start climbing higher. Hope this helps you guys in your adventures. | |
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MNF reports SOC that includes all pages returned when all we care about is Google page one. A lot of folks understand this for total pages, I think it's true for MNF SOC as well, which makes it not reliable for this type of marketing. I do like the new MNF feature of domain name check. That is a real time saver. Phil | |
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I am back linking from article directories like ezine/goarticles/etc. I have seen a lot of x factor sites that link to themselves using a network of unrelated sites, when I track down the link network, it looks really spammy, and a lot of the sites have absolutely no useful information or navigation at all, to me I would imagine that would eventually raise a red flag. I guess I just assumed that in order for the traffic to be there you had to be within the top 5 at least. (following that whole principle of the top spot getting 42% of the clicks, second spot getting 20%, 3rd getting 10% or something, scaling down from there) Is the goal for you to solely just get indexed on page one and not even move up the SERPS from there? Maybe I am looking too much at the long term big picture, putting too much work into each site and getting it ranked high before pumping out there other. |
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I am finding highly searched terms 5000 upwards p/month, mainly for household products and appliances etc I am definately starting to think 2400 search per month is not enough, I have a site in position 7 and is currently receives very little traffic | |
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Also, ask yourself this, is your link enticing? If I were to search for the KWP and see your result in #7, would your title/desc cause me to want to click or would I just see "This site is about KWP and finding KWP deals" or "KWP are this or that. We have best whatever KWP blah blah."? If your title/desc sucks, then even with a #1 listing, you'll be losing lots of clicks. Just thought I'd bring this up for discussion. As to 2,400 searches, I'd look for much higher unless 1) you can secure a #1-#3 spot for sure and/or 2) the CPC is high (so you're getting paid $1+ a pop). Think about it like this. If 80 people search, you might (depending on your title/desc) get 4-6 clicks a day in your spot--->BTW, if the rankings above you have strong calls to action, then you'll get less. So, you get 4-6 clicks and say 50% click on through. That's 2-3 clicks. If you're getting $1+ per click, that's fine. In fact, I have sites that are in highly competitive markets, get next to no traffic (sometimes just 4 hits a day), but they pay $2-$5 per click and have a high CTR. So just a couple lousy hits can pop $4-$10 easily. If you're getting paid 25 cents a click on a site that might get 4-6 hits, then don't expect much. And this is something you should learn to know before a site goes up. In short, there are many things to look at. Don't short change yourself by just opening up shop because 1 criteria was met. And always learn from your mistakes. | |
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Thanks, this was something I was going to move on to so I am glad you brought it up. I was wondering what you guys are using as you title. My approach so far has been "Key Phrase - Great Deals Online", "Key Phrase - Top Deals, Professional Line" etc Would be interested to see what the others are doing, but I definitely think I need to push my sites above the fold, top 5 sites. |
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| Spot on Your description is going to make or break you in my opinion. Why should a visitor click on your link and not the other 9 on the page. Give them a damn good reason to click yours. I use fear in some of mine and it works nicely. Example: Acme Blue Widgets - How blue widgets from acme saved me heaps of time and money and why acme blue widgets should be your number one choice for widgets. or similar. I use roughly 25-30 words in the description. Remember, your description is your salesman when people are window shopping HTH |
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I spend all day searching for all sorts of stuff and on page one, I'll click anywhere on the page, not just the 1st listing. It's all about what title/desc "speaks to me." A #2 or #3 listing with a strong call to action can easily nullify the "advantage" of a #1 listing that's ho-hum with it's "message." Rather than thinking of the title/desc as some KWP magician to help your ranking, think of it as you writing a classified ad. | |
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I look at #1 and #2 for ideas and just make it concise. | |
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I found a keyword....the plural form has more searches yet the CPC is much much lower...it's like 0.05 compared to the singular keyword 5.00 per click... I'm just wondering why there is such a big disparity. Is this a mistake? How do I verify?
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Reason: The plural version will show ads from singular version because content is same. To verify, just look at the ads displayed in the SERP and listing pages. | |
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I seem to be hitting a barrier of $20/day. I have been adding around 3 - 5 sites a week and I still cannot push past $20. The indexed sites are all top 10. Time to buy some heavy PR backlinks tomorrow. Kind of confusing to see myself sitting at the this threshold for a long time. |
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Working towards a goal, the very essential requirement! I'm gonna follow this thread! |
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One day it will suddenly blast way past the $20 and never look back. In my experience this is quite a common event. And it seems like you're putting in the work so it will definitely happen. Keep pushin ![]() -Peace | |
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I am looking for some reliable sources right now. I have always used text-link-ads also looking for links on DP. DP is turning into one big infestation of spam sites. PPL just buy old domains, put up some fake content and charge a ton of money. So the quality of links has gone down a lot. A whole lot. I tried the link juicer and it made my sites disappear. Maybe I used it wrong but it didn't work for me. I want to try linkvana, but am skeptical since TLJ is a similar system but yielded me no results. I am always seeking some other methods of link building or purchasing link package. I might try hiring link builders if they help at all. I also done article marketing for backlinks. Now I don't think this works that well as John Claims because I do have around 20 articles for each site yes I cannot break top 5 on any sites. One thing I am grateful for is my ability to get sites ranked in top 10 once indexed. | |
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Thanks for your quick reply. I did try Linkvana for a few months but it didn't work too well for me. UAW (Unique Article Wizard) definitely delivered better results at 1/3 of the price. I signed up for TLJ too but just didn't have the time to experiment with it and now my one month trial period is almost over (judging from your experience, maybe that's a good thing? )I'm thinking of hiring a full-time link builder as well. Quote:
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Do you have any trouble with google's sandbox with your newly created websites?
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I am using some of the paid backlinking services and they seem to work okay. I can't say I'm seeing amazing results or anything, but I have seen one of my sites jump to #2 in the Google results recently. Anyways, best of luck to you and have a great day! | |
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I loved beginning my career on the internet. It's a great feeling when you see those pay checks build up in PayPal or your affiliate account. Good luck buddy i believe you will hit that $300 per day soon, just stick at it ![]() Sean. T |
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It definitely is a very slow process. There has to be great amounts of patience to continue. I have found a keyword on which I am going to try building a community around it. Forum/blog etc.. |
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Hey haven't checked in on your progress in a while and was happy to see you're up to $20/day. That's awesome man. I think I'm gonna have to get back into this. lol I have one niche site constantly doing $1-5/day so I'm happy to see this is very consistent. I also don't know if it's just the holidays, but the clicks have been paying so much more this past month as well. It's pretty nice not touching a site for over 1 1/2 months, and the profits increasing. Keep up the good work bud. |
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Awesome work! Am sure all the knowledge that you got so far form this experience is going to increase your profits for this 2010! Working hard is the only way to get results! |
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good to go up day by day. it is something which is the result of patience. keep it up.
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Hi Hamburglar, Great work me friend - well done so far- you have inspired some people here. I wonder if its time to look at what takes the most time to get done and work what has worked the best so far - sort of a test and improve maybe....... All the best for Christmas BTW Paul |
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Have your older sites, 60+ days started to drop down the SERPs?
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Hi Everybody, first of all wish you a merry christmas and happy new year! Just would like to know whether you see a drop in earning in this festival week? My earning is just drop from 15 per day to 3 per day! SERP remain unchanged but traffic abit slow....... Simon |
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