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Old 09-05-2009, 12:06 AM   #1
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A keyword question- this example is for Building a site for 'diabetes cures'. I have a list of 15 keywords -> 15 pages i want to build a SEO site for,

Here are the keyword phrases in this example, in the following example I wil give some:
I am planning to put content around each keywords, but for the homepage of my site- Which keyword should i target?

(i am planning to have 15 pages- 1 per each keyword, but want to know which i should use for the homepage, as each word has a different word count, or should i consider the Words in the phrase? - help!)

Question- which one of these keywords should i target on my www. mydomain.com index/home page? - Should i consider the Search volume and go for the biggest searched one ? or go for one in the middle of the list? or the least searched one? (nb, these 15 pages wil be interlinked etc) - but i just needed some SEO advice on which keyword below i should make into the index homepage, which will include content around that keyword... (and how would i chose this keyword from below, for further models?)

15 keywords + their wordtracker searches-count (per month i think)


145 -is there a cure for diabetes
140 -diabetes cure
75 -cure for diabetes
63 -natural cures for diabetes
25 -type 2 diabetes cure
22 -substance p diabetes possible cure
16 -natural cure for diabetes
14 -reverse cure remedy diabetes
12 -diabetes cures
11 -natural diabetes cures
10 -canada diabetes cure study mice
9 -cure diabetes
9 -diabetes natural cure
9 -new diabetes cure
9 -stem cell cure diabetes


although this question is just about 'which keywords should i use for my index homepage'

which keyword below i should make into the index homepage, which will include content around that keyword...+ any other advice? -

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I would suggest: new diabetes cure, natural diabetes cures, natural cures for diabetes, diabetes cures

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Default Re: Help needed in chosing a 'KEYWORD' from this list of 15 keywords-(from a SEO point of view)- Hel

From an SEO point of view? I wouldn't choose ANY of them.

The ones that are worth having, chances are good competitive isn't the right word to describe how hard it will be to rank.

The rest of them just are not "buying" keywords.

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I would suggest: new diabetes cure, natural diabetes cures, natural cures for diabetes, diabetes cures
thanks, how do i decide the word to target for the home page? which factors do i look out for ?

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From an SEO point of view? I wouldn't choose ANY of them.

The ones that are worth having, chances are good competitive isn't the right word to describe how hard it will be to rank.

The rest of them just are not "buying" keywords.
Why wouldn’t you choose any?

what would your opinion be on searching the keyword?

I think the site will just be a content site

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Default Re: Help needed in chosing a 'KEYWORD' from this list of 15 keywords-(from a SEO point of view)- Hel

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From an SEO point of view? I wouldn't choose ANY of them.

The ones that are worth having, chances are good competitive isn't the right word to describe how hard it will be to rank.

The rest of them just are not "buying" keywords.
I'm usually an optimist on most anything anybody wants to do but I think he may have a point here. There are some very heavy hitters yet not that much in search volume. The amount of work to rank may outweigh the max amount of available income to be generated.
If going commercial I would do some heavy market research before committing.

Now if it's a passion that is different.

my 2 cents

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I'm usually an optimist on most anything anybody wants to do but I think he may have a point here. There are some very heavy hitters yet not that much in search volume. The amount of work to rank may outweigh the max amount of available income to be generated.
If going commercial I would do some heavy market research before committing.

Now if it's a passion that is different.

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A bit confused, can you elaborate on what i should do instead,

How i got that list was- I clustered similar words together in the 'diabetes cures'

Lets assume i want this site alternatively to generate Adsense $$$, are the choice of keywords for my site not suitable for this adsense model?

what i should do instead- can you give some basic steps please

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Default Re: Help needed in chosing a 'KEYWORD' from this list of 15 keywords-(from a SEO point of view)- Hel

I understand what you are looking for.
And "Diabetes Cures" would be your main niche...correct?
"Diabetes Cures" and "cure for diabetes" are the only phrases with any real amount of searches.
Most of the other phrases have rather low search volume, that means people are not searching this term in a large amounts. 2,000 searches per month are negligible.

So you really have two phrases that do have "some" volume which will be putting you up against Mayo Clinic and other established sites.

This means you are going to have to work your tail off to catch up to them.
Once you do catch them, will the income that you create from adsesne be worth the work you have involved getting to and maintaining top Search Ranks?

OR
Will you be working your butt off and even though you gain good SERPs, you get several dollars per week for 40 hour work weeks?

Look at your competitors. For that phrase are they getting any real traffic?
I do not see it. You may get your name in lights but it may cost you.

That is why I say I would make sure the market income is there.
If no one clicks your ads you are SOL even though you just worked 2 years straight to become king....


PS: I'm not trying to discourage you but be realistic. If I were going to go through the amount of work you are going to have to do then I would go for the gold and go for "diabetes" The payoff would be 100 X the others and they would be "sub-keywords"...IMO

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Default Re: Help needed in chosing a 'KEYWORD' from this list of 15 keywords-(from a SEO point of view)- Hel

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A keyword question- this example is for Building a site for 'diabetes cures'. I have a list of 15 keywords -> 15 pages i want to build a SEO site for,

Here are the keyword phrases in this example, in the following example I wil give some:
I am planning to put content around each keywords, but for the homepage of my site- Which keyword should i target?

(i am planning to have 15 pages- 1 per each keyword, but want to know which i should use for the homepage, as each word has a different word count, or should i consider the Words in the phrase? - help!)

Question- which one of these keywords should i target on my www. mydomain.com index/home page? - Should i consider the Search volume and go for the biggest searched one ? or go for one in the middle of the list? or the least searched one? (nb, these 15 pages wil be interlinked etc) - but i just needed some SEO advice on which keyword below i should make into the index homepage, which will include content around that keyword... (and how would i chose this keyword from below, for further models?)

15 keywords + their wordtracker searches-count (per month i think)


145 -is there a cure for diabetes
140 -diabetes cure
75 -cure for diabetes
63 -natural cures for diabetes
25 -type 2 diabetes cure
22 -substance p diabetes possible cure
16 -natural cure for diabetes
14 -reverse cure remedy diabetes
12 -diabetes cures
11 -natural diabetes cures
10 -canada diabetes cure study mice
9 -cure diabetes
9 -diabetes natural cure
9 -new diabetes cure
9 -stem cell cure diabetes


although this question is just about 'which keywords should i use for my index homepage'

which keyword below i should make into the index homepage, which will include content around that keyword...+ any other advice? -
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Default Re: Help needed in chosing a 'KEYWORD' from this list of 15 keywords-(from a SEO point of view)- Hel

innocent07,

Keep in mind, wordtracker search counts are not very accurate. Use the free AdWords keyword tool to verify search volume:

natural cure for diabetes 2400
natural diabetes cures 3600
diabetes cures 9900
diabetes natural cure 6600
substance p diabetes possible cure -1
canada diabetes cure study mice -1
stem cell cure diabetes 720
reverse cure remedy diabetes -1
natural cures for diabetes 2400
cure for diabetes 22200
cure diabetes 60500
diabetes cure 60500
new diabetes cure 880
type 2 diabetes cure 4400
is there a cure for diabetes 2900

You can pretty much ignore anything under 2,400/mo. Also, as the other guy mentioned, the keywords with the highest search volume might be difficult to rank for.

Just type them into google and check the # of results:

For example, diabetes cures gives 1,320,000 results. That's quite competitive. You can try "diabetes cures" too. That's 186,000 results. Not too great.

It looks to me like "diabetes cures" is too general for a niche site. Have you thought about looking for a good sub-niche?

Just off the top of my head, something like "gestational diabetes" or "type 2 diabetes diet" or something along those lines might work.

For now, let's pick "gestational diabetes" as your primary keyword. Then, your home page would be about "gestational diabetes" and your individual pages would be about "gestational diabetes diet" and "gestational diabetes symptoms" etc.

Of course, check the search volume to pick your exact keywords.

Well, hope this helps. Good luck!
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innocent07,

Keep in mind, wordtracker search counts are not very accurate. Use the free AdWords keyword tool to verify search volume:

natural cure for diabetes 2400
natural diabetes cures 3600
diabetes cures 9900
diabetes natural cure 6600
substance p diabetes possible cure -1
canada diabetes cure study mice -1
stem cell cure diabetes 720
reverse cure remedy diabetes -1
natural cures for diabetes 2400
cure for diabetes 22200
cure diabetes 60500
diabetes cure 60500
new diabetes cure 880
type 2 diabetes cure 4400
is there a cure for diabetes 2900

You can pretty much ignore anything under 2,400/mo. Also, as the other guy mentioned, the keywords with the highest search volume might be difficult to rank for.

Just type them into google and check the # of results:

For example, diabetes cures gives 1,320,000 results. That's quite competitive. You can try "diabetes cures" too. That's 186,000 results. Not too great.

It looks to me like "diabetes cures" is too general for a niche site. Have you thought about looking for a good sub-niche?

Just off the top of my head, something like "gestational diabetes" or "type 2 diabetes diet" or something along those lines might work.

For now, let's pick "gestational diabetes" as your primary keyword. Then, your home page would be about "gestational diabetes" and your individual pages would be about "gestational diabetes diet" and "gestational diabetes symptoms" etc.

Of course, check the search volume to pick your exact keywords.

Well, hope this helps. Good luck!
Thanks everybody, i was looking for this kinda answer too Bigcobra.

How many seo sites do you have bigcopra? and have you applied the advice you gave on above on them, and what rankings do you get on your pages?

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Thanks everybody, i was looking for this kinda answer too Bigcobra.

How many seo sites do you have bigcopra? and have you applied the advice you gave on above on them, and what rankings do you get on your pages?
I have about 30 sites. I get what you're asking. Have I personally used this method to get 1st page rankings for my sites? Absolutely, without a doubt, yes.
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It depends I would look at the competition for the keyword phrases. Use a tool like Market Samurai to see how difficult it will be to get into the top 5 google. Than choose one that gets good traffic but you can dominate.

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innocent07,

Keep in mind, wordtracker search counts are not very accurate. Use the free AdWords keyword tool to verify search volume:

natural cure for diabetes 2400
natural diabetes cures 3600
diabetes cures 9900
diabetes natural cure 6600
substance p diabetes possible cure -1
canada diabetes cure study mice -1
stem cell cure diabetes 720
reverse cure remedy diabetes -1
natural cures for diabetes 2400
cure for diabetes 22200
cure diabetes 60500
diabetes cure 60500
new diabetes cure 880
type 2 diabetes cure 4400
is there a cure for diabetes 2900

You can pretty much ignore anything under 2,400/mo. Also, as the other guy mentioned, the keywords with the highest search volume might be difficult to rank for.

Just type them into google and check the # of results:

For example, diabetes cures gives 1,320,000 results. That's quite competitive. You can try "diabetes cures" too. That's 186,000 results. Not too great.

It looks to me like "diabetes cures" is too general for a niche site. Have you thought about looking for a good sub-niche?

Just off the top of my head, something like "gestational diabetes" or "type 2 diabetes diet" or something along those lines might work.

For now, let's pick "gestational diabetes" as your primary keyword. Then, your home page would be about "gestational diabetes" and your individual pages would be about "gestational diabetes diet" and "gestational diabetes symptoms" etc.

Of course, check the search volume to pick your exact keywords.

Well, hope this helps. Good luck!
So what types of numbers of search volume are we typically looking for, to be accepted as a good keyword for deciding this main keyword?

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