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djbory - I've also got socialbot - which bookmark sites do you use and which ones to you find work the best? Quote: |
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Hi terry good go ahead |
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Thanks - I've actually stopped using socialbot and am now using BMD as you can easily add a ton of profile urls and let it run. Socialbot doesn't seem to have any functionality to easily add a list of urls and let it run. Also BMD will also sprinkle in some random bookmarks to make your list seem more natural. |
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Hello everyone... could someone please explain to me why Terry says to backlink and inner page as opposed to the home page......I'm just not getting it. thanks |
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| ANNOUNCEMENT: Later tonight, I will pull the metaphorical curtain back and reveal the experiment niche, the GoArticles and the new WP site created for this experiment. We will look at the CB Analytics and dissect the findings... It has been roughly two months since our journey together began so tonight I will reveal EVERYTHING and outline my strategy for the next month on these same sites! Exciting, huh? ![]() I'll answer your question too Will! |
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Thought I might add this as profile links using Angela's, etc. are a big part of this thread, and this method significantly speeds things up, for free. You will need Copy of FireFox Copy of Shortkeys Lite - Search Google for Shortkeys Lite (apparently I am to much of a noob to post links sorry ...) Set of Profile Link Sites Step #1 Install Shortkeys Lite In Shortkeys Lite Go to Options --> Preferences --> General --> Click the radio button for use prefix key and set the prefix to zz zz followed by another letter will trigger the program to fill in any text that you want. You can set what you want it to write by going to Shortkeys --> Add Shortkey Currently I am using zza - first name zzz - last name zzs - user name zzx - password zzf - email zzv - url of my site zzb - bio with html link to my site zzm - bio with BB code link to my site zzq - home town zzw - home state zze - zip zzr - KW (sometimes you have to use their icon to set a URL you just erase the regular code insert this then use their icon to set the URL) Step #2 Take your list of profile sites and break it in to lists of 20 URL's, and put the 20 URL's into this format, (if your email account is not with gmail that you will be using substitute the correct URL) gmail Url|profile url 1|profile url2|.... Note the | symbol in between each URL this on most keyboards is the symbol you get by hitting Shift \ Open Firefox go to Tools --> Options and paste your set of 21 URL's in the home page area. The next time that you hit the home key you will be opening all 20 sites + your email account site simultaneously. Now hit home Step #3 I was going to stick a picture here but once again the noob rule, lol. Now click on register for each of the sites if you are not already on that page by clicking on each tab. Use your shortkeys shortcuts to fill in the blanks without having to actually type hardly anything you can blast through 100 in 6-7 hours. You can use your open email account to confirm any account that you need to. I usually put the email account it on the right side and work from the right to the left since new pages open on the right when you confirm them. Have fun Chris |
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OK routine backup before installing Windows 7 is taking forever - grrrrrrrr. All will be revealed tomorrow! |
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When you mentioned earlier that you were going to reveal all today (keep the shirt on, please) I was excited like a kid at Christmas. But then Santa called and bumped back Christmas one day-- Doh! I guess I'll wait one more day to see the big reveal. Can't wait to see what the real results are! Terry, the only hang-up I've had with your experiment is that it is specific to 3rd party domains (article directory) instead of privately owned domains, like my own sites. But hey, I can't complain, still learned a lot and I think the results may be similar. Thanks for your experiment, its been a great idea from day one. I'm sure everyone would agree. Can't wait to see the results... | |
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Fantastic Terry. By far, one of the most informative threads ever on WF. Thanks for the time you're putting in to create this (I am sure it will be rewarded financially as well). |
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Been reading this thread for a while and missed it for last few weeks.... Looks like I came back just in time for the grand unveiling! Awesome work here Terry, we all appreciate it! |
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Damn....the time is upon us?!?! I was hoping this thread would never end! Looking forward to the great unveiling though |
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I have been sitting back and watching this one. I am happy someone has taken the time to walk through this for people, Thanks Terry. There are tricks in here that I am sure people have paid a handsome ransom to learn in the past (although not really new ... An Example: Finding real competition for a keyword). Terry is giving this information for free, he is giving away his time (being the most valuable asset that any of us have, right?) for free. It takes massive time to answer all the email and posts on this thread. So again Thanks Terry! A couple of questions for you Terry (This may be a little topic) 1. Are you happy with that latest Hops to sales ratio? 2. Are you opposed to using Xrummer Service? (I have had some success with it) Boiled down the sole reason we are all here on the WF is to learn ways make money. Obviously, better rankings equal better sales) All our goals are the same, and Terry's sacrifice in time and resources demonstrate what the essence of this community really is all about. One last thought... I will continue to preach one thing though. I get asked all the time, what link package is the best? ALL OF THEM offered on the forum is a good place to start. The undertone of this thread clearly states that in so many ways. The three keys here are having ... 1. A clearly defined linking strategy. 2. Implement It!! 3. Be Patient, your hard will pay off. Just My Two Cents, Francis P.S. I am in the process of planning a similar strategy for list building using nothing but GoArticles and EZA. |
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Good Lord. This is monster thread. My laser printer just ran out of ink. Is there a summary of the main points somewhere without all of the "great thread" replies? I'd happily pay someone to summarize the main points and results. |
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At last - backups complete and Windows 7 in! Firstly some house keeping before the cloth comes off... Quote:
Instead of pointing tons of links at a homepage which in theory doesn't look 'natural', create links FROM an inner page TO an inner page - these are the types of links that genuine authority sites or viral articles attract - SPECIFIC ones. Imagine this Will: tomorrow a brilliant new video is uploaded to YouTube featuring three squirrels juggling nuts. It's hilarious and becomes a huge hit (think 'Battle at Kruger' big - amazing video by the way). The links from people's blogs and sites WON'T connect to youtube dot com, they WILL connect to the specific page WITHIN YouTube. That's the principle; I've had great results with it and stick at it. In fact, I never backlink to my homepages if I can help it, it's linked from that inner page anyway and doing this can give give you a shot at a 'double listing' of 2 indented results locking up more screen real estate for you! Hope that clarifies. Sean says next week Chris so fingers crossed! | |
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Seriously though, to your questions: 1. Are you happy with that latest Hops to sales ratio? I'll go into that in a minute in real detail Fran but in short for now, no. 2. Are you opposed to using Xrummer Service? (I have had some success with it) Not at all. I've never tried it but that has just been a 'I didn't get around to it' issue instead of anything else. From my limited understanding of it, my only concern is that forums get absolutely hammered by mass automation like that and quality forums for more stealth backlinking might be diminished. Though this might seem hypocritical, I don't like the fact that backlinking essentially creates a massive amount of junk on the web but at this point in time, it's pretty much the only way to get and hold good rankings on Google - who implicitly encourage backlink junk on the web. Readers of version 2.0 of my WSO might have figured out what my 2010 SEO focus will be - a system where such endless junk creation is completely unnecessary and much more 'link efficient'. 1. A clearly defined linking strategy. 2. Implement It!! 3. Be Patient, your hard will pay off. Spot on Fran and I will be expanding on these a lot more in a moment in the experiment analysis. | |
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OK now a quick recap is in order but first, I was reading this quote from a satisfied client of an up-and-coming SEO firm yesterday: Search Engine Optimisation / Optimization (SEO), Natural Ethical Campaigns and Consultancy - Epiphany Search Marketing Agency - Digital Marketing and this caught my eye: “Within a matter of months the site reached first page of Google.co.uk for terms like ‘casinos’ in natural listings and as the campaign matured the site has seen in excess of 100,000 visitors so far this year.” Dan Taylor, Head of Marketing, Genting Stanley PLC Now here is a client with (presumably) pretty deep pockets given their activity in the online gambling business. Even so - and I know they are operating in a saturated, highly-competitive niche - this client had REALISTIC expectations. I am always banging on about keeping your 'timetable of expectations' realistic and there a client was happy to see results after MONTHS of intensive SEO work (probably using more or less the same techniques we're talking about here). In case you hadn't figured it out already, doing a Yahoo Site Explorer/Backlinkwatchdotcom search on that casino client (Genting Stanley) is probably going to give you a LOT of sources of backlinks! ![]() Next post for more... |
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By the way, great to see you here Ron Douglas - congratulations on your book success!
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Now when I was choosing the niche for this experiment, I considered many possibilities and wanted it to be something that: - I knew literally NOTHING about; - had never made a penny from before; - involved some level of emotional urgency on the part of prospects; and, - I didn't know what the current major CB vendor conversions were like in that niche (CB gravity can be misleading!). I also wanted to use singular approaches on each test so as to not 'pollute' or contaminate results findings. I did also attempt to find a sub-niche that had a reasonable number of viable keywords available in it (assessing viability through SEO for Firefox, Micro Niche Finder, SENuke and Keyword Elite 2.0). In fact, I wish I had found a niche with MORE viable keywords but eventually settled on... |
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Oh the intrigue.....carry on.
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Roll those drums Bruce! Actually I already linked my smiley faces above to a couple of the articles - no amateur detectives online tonight apparently! |
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OK and here comes the (possible) anti-climax. I chose Yeast Infections as my experiment niche. |
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| Article 1 is here: Yeast Infection Home Remedy?: GoArticles.com under the pen-name Nicole Harris for the term, Yeast Infection Home Remedy. This is the article powered by IRRELEVANT links and peaked at #3. Though it has 400 backlinks, Backlinkwatchdotcom and SEO for Firefox are only showing it as having 31 and 33 backlinks respectively! |
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Come on now, don't act like you didn't know anything about the subject lol. Anyhow how do you track the amount of links pointing to your site? I only recently started taking down notes as to my links, profile pages etc. to see which are working and for my bookmarking, pinging and RSS campaigns. Do you have a program that does this automatically? SENuke just isn't cutting the mustard for me although I do like some of the features. Oh by the way, are you also known as Jenny Milliken? |
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| Article 2 is here: Challenge: GoArticles.com under the pen-name Daniela Murray for the term, How To Get Rid Of A Yeast Infection. This article also has roughly 400 backlinks and SEO for Firefox reports 55 backlinks and Backlinkwatchdotcom says 48 backlinks. Hopefully, it is becoming clear that: [a] reported backlinks for any site are a FRACTION of actual backlinks; and, [b] ranking is NOT just a mathematical 'arms race' of backlink numbers; sites ranking very high on Page 1 for the keywords of Article 1 and 2 have hardly any REPORTED links. Article 2 used relevant links (assuming LSI influence) until I literally exhausted all possible sites in terms of relevancy and in fact in the last week or so, started throwing some irrelevant links from much higher PR sites at it and THEN it started to move. Not only did relevant links not appear to help, Google didn't even want to index this article for something ridiculous like 6 weeks! I'll be showing CB stats after revealing the other sites... |
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Dammit Bruce - my chronic yeast infection issues are public now! I know that these sites have 400 links as I set up 8 milestones of 50 backlinks each week for 8 weeks with my elancer, QuickExpress (Soniya). The supplied Excel spreadsheets checked out. OK Article 3 is here: Challenge: GoArticles.com under the pen-name Louise Adams for the term, Recurring Yeast Infections. This article - weirdly - is only reporting 9 backlinks in both Backlinkwatch and SEO for Firefox. |
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| Site 4 was NOT a GoArticle (phew!) but a new site with slightly customised WP blog here at: Symptoms Of A Yeast Infection but links were pointed to an inner page here: Symptoms Of A Yeast Infection? | Symptoms Of A Yeast Infection relying on Social Bookmarking 101 and no other backlinking whatsoever. SEO for Firefox is reporting 202 backlinks to this page and Backlinkwatch 122 backlinks. |
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Hi Mike - you're forgiven! The IRRELEVANT sites came straight out of the backlinks packets of Angela, PJ and yours truly. Forums on SQL programming and the social communities of Britney Spears easily qualify as irrelevant to yeast infections - though some may make unkind parallels in Britney's case! Hope that clarifies. |
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More, Mike - if another Internet Marketer has had success with relevant links, I do wish them well. I just haven't found any difference across my portfolio. However, people I respect like Michael (Mininet) Campbell and Chad Kimball are big on relevancy so the debate continues... One other issue if you are keen on throwing a LOT of links at a site is finding enough good PR sites that are relevant where backlinks can be put. Finding enough sites can be time consuming or expensive to outsource. Love to hear your experience on this issue. One other practical example is my site on the term backlinks which is about #10 on Page 1 or #11 on Page 2: Backlinks: The Awful Truth | Backlinks: The Backlinks Black Belt Report where all my backlinks to that inner page are IRRELEVANT and I'm up against a lot of backlinking baristas on that term. |
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| Here is the hoplink raw traffic for the entire experiment period: ![]() and if you search on those different yeast infection terms, none of the test sites is currently on Page 1 for its term. If you remember that my high ranking Panic Attacks article above took over 1000 backlinks and a few months to rank well, 400 backlinks (so far - I'll go into that soon) is not enough to make a lasting dent on Page 1. When we did spike up there, some sales were made. |
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Ignore the Panic and Phone stats here and take away 123 hops from our first Yeast Infection CB vendor where we just weren't getting conversions: ![]() ![]() |
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Great stuff Terry, and more evidence to back up what I am now beginning to trot out as my catchphrase online..... "Relevancy is Irrelevant". |
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| LOL! yes I think that qualifies as irrelevant as long as we don't look at the parallel there. Just asking because ther was a heated debate in another thread about this whole issue of irrelevancy (if there is such a word).
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Hi J, Presumably your home page is already optimised for a particular keyword and genuine viral articles/posts/pages (inner pages) are linked to from other inner pages so that is what we are trying to replicate. If you look at my (pretty lame) gas pressure washer site, imaginatively domain-named gaspressurewasherhq.com, all of the links point to ONE deep inner page blog post (syndicated content actually but aided by Jeremy Kelsall's Content Blender plugin) but the listing on Page 1 of Google for the search term is NOT the blog post but the homepage. In the past, this was quite often shown as a double listing for gas pressure washer - 2 results from the same site (mine). Does that clarify J? |
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Oh and to back up Jazbo's 'copyrightworthy' catchphrase, I'm pretty sure that none of the backlinks to my gas pressure washer site inner blog post have anything to do with...gas pressure washers. And that site was at #1 for a while until I fell asleep at the wheel on it... ![]() But I did just link my smiley to it - thanks again JP! |
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Greatest catch 22 in backlinking.What KKchoon and I were looking at doing is toward another contested point that even without anchor text relevancy matters (big long shot and I think it will line up perfectly with what you have found). The offshot of that is we might be able to answer the question of whether sites that don't allow you to leave anchor text are totally worthless and if not find out how much worth they have (since those are sites I usually leave off my lists I can get away with a public experiment on that). | ||
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It's getting kinda late now so tomorrow I will come back and do a proper analysis of the CB stats - there's hopefully plenty of food for thought there already. WHAT NOW: THE NEXT MONTH? My plan now is to throw out the 'single approach' of using one method for any site - I believe you have to use multi-pronged hybrid systems to get and keep traction. I'll be throwing all my tricks at those 4 sites in the next month using everything I know so you can track their progress (or lack of it) now that you know the sites and keywords - a new phase of this experiment huh? And there are the three other secret tests in the same niche still to be unmasked! I can see that my PM box is starting to go into meltdown now so I better head over there for a minute. Thanks so much for all the encouragement and support so far on this cool journey we've shared - it's been awesome and the best part is that it's only really getting started now! **Oh and one more polite reminder (if you haven't done this before), if you feel you've gotten anything new or useful or both from this thread and my time/money (outsourcers!) invested, please click on that "Thanks" button below there...** See you soon partners! |
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Awesome Terry (or should I call you Candy? ). Thanks again for conducting this experiment. For a topic like Yeast Infections, I found your articles pretty entertaining ![]() I wonder if having 100's of votes on one of the GoArticles would have made any difference at all? Even now, with everyone following this thread, it might be something that could be analyzed. I also wonder about the net effect of backlinking at an accelerated rate; what if you had an experiment with 1000's or 10's of thousands of irrelevant backlinks in the same 60 day period.... I think you said you were considering doing this somewhere in this thread....? Looking forward to hearing the CB analysis tomorrow! Great work Terry, thanks. |
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Hope you wont mind, I want to use this as reference for my learning process. This is a really nice experiament you did here. I mean in terms of your willingness of sharing and taking the time to post it.
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Brilliant, Terry. Love all of this, and your audio interview from your opt-in list is pure gold. Everyone opt-in to Terry's list if you have not already. My question to the group: Terry says we need to keep a portfolio of these high-pr sites in a spreadsheet. What type of program could we use to alert us if one the profile pages is removed? Some kind of old reciprocal-link verifcation script, perhaps? I can see a cronned script that checks 10 or so pages a day for our link and reports any failures. Does anyone have any ideas here? |
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You will need, A copy of FireFox Step #1 First you need to do is break your list of profile links into sets of 20 then, put them into this format Profile URL1|Profile URL 2|Profile Url 3|.... (to get pipe symbol | it is usually shift \) set #2 Profile URL21|Profile URL22|..... etc.. Then all you need to do is with Firefox open, got to Tools --> Options --> and put your first set of 20 URL's in the home page area. Step #2 Hit the Home Button on FireFox. This will open all 20 profile links at the same time. You can then scan through your results by clicking on each tab. You should be able to check a hundred or more this way in less than 10 minutes if your internet speed is fast. |
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Hi Terry. Thanks again so much for conducting thiis experiment. I'm about to embark on my own promotional campaign and have been following closely in the hopes to discover how effective my efforts in learning SEO might turn out if I follow your methods. From the results you've collected (and sorry if the answer is evident in your above posts, but I don't understand fully), were you able to determine approximately how much daily traffic was generated for each of the articles, or for the site in Case #4? I'm much more interested in the amount of traffic generated than actual resulting sales from the clickbank products. Thanks again for all your hard work! -Robert |
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You know, my site has info on yeast and how it affects diet. You could have asked me, could have save you some research! ![]() I enjoyed this thread, I'm still learning so I know I will come back many many time. My site is just about ready have a few more things to do and a few more content pages to add but I hope my Sunday I can start my G1 campaign. Desiree Quote:
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Hi Terry In my opinion this is the most valuable thread on this forum right now. Thanks |
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