My Experience with Micro Niche Finder & Xfactor course

[sachibhat]

Originally Posted by kingside

Well after about a week, still not quitting my day job . I have 5 sites live and indexed. 3 of which are on the first page for their target keyword terms, but they're getting no traffic whatsoever (between the 3 of them, I got one visitor yesterday).

The other two sites are indexed, but no where to be found for my target keyword phrases. I find it odd because these niches have really low competition as well, but the pages were just indexed a day or two ago so I probably just need to give it some time.

I'm launching a few more sites this weekend but am only focused on keywords that show 2000-3000 exact searches in MNF and similar data in keyworddiscovery--it really sucks to get where you want to be and not get the clicks.

Patience..

What was your search count for the keywords you targeted???

[promo_guy]

I know the feeling lol

I have an amazon affiliate site on pg 1 of Google out of 2.5million results for 1 variation of my keyword and jumped from pg 10 to pg 4 for another variation of the keyword (this time out of 65 million results). Backlinks are slow for now and there's still movement in the serps which proves you don't need to hammer your site with backlinks in the beginnig. I'm more than confident I can rank my sites on pg 1 for low comp keywords.

On Yahoo I am on page 1 (spots #2 and #3) for both variations of the keyword out of around 65 million results. Still, only a few clicks per day. Granted the exact match for the keyword is only around 5,000/month but I have dozens of pages indexed which means long tail search potential.

I have to admit, with results like this it makes me consider PPC!

But, to be fair, I have yet to finish my "xfactor" sites so we'll see how they do.

Keep us posted Kingside

[Kael41]

You know, I tried that for a while on roughly 8 websites and for the most part they all didn't do as well as a direct keyword name (search) domain as one that had something tacked onto it. Others may have different results, but i tend to stick with something i know people are searching for.

David

Originally Posted by DavidJohnny

Sachibhat,

Just add a word to the domain name. For example, if you keyword is "haloreachforxbox" and you can't get haloreachforxbox.com, try something like this:

haloreachforxboxreview.com
haloreachforxboxtips.com
haloreachforxboxdiscount.com

[kingside]

Originally Posted by sachibhat

What was your search count for the keywords you targeted???

Just over 1000 exact match for all terms, but I was silly and jumped the gun since I was just how saw soft the competition was on those niches. After checking the same terms in other keyword tools it's pretty clear they're losers.

I also made the mistake of picking a couple of seasonal keywords (summer), so it's not really surprising that the search count was a bit misleading.

[kingside]

Originally Posted by promo_guy

I know the feeling lol

I have an amazon affiliate site on pg 1 of Google out of 2.5million results for 1 variation of my keyword and jumped from pg 10 to pg 4 for another variation of the keyword (this time out of 65 million results). Backlinks are slow for now and there's still movement in the serps which proves you don't need to hammer your site with backlinks in the beginnig. I'm more than confident I can rank my sites on pg 1 for low comp keywords.

On Yahoo I am on page 1 (spots #2 and #3) for both variations of the keyword out of around 65 million results. Still, only a few clicks per day. Granted the exact match for the keyword is only around 5,000/month but I have dozens of pages indexed which means long tail search potential.

I have to admit, with results like this it makes me consider PPC!

But, to be fair, I have yet to finish my "xfactor" sites so we'll see how they do.

Keep us posted Kingside

LOL I know what you mean. I've been doing PPC for a long time and I'm addicted to the instant gratification. Waiting 5 days just to get a site indexed is not easy to do .

[Kael41]

One of the reports I made ages ago was targetted around seasonal adsense sites. Put it to you this way- way to many people get bogged down in the details. If you short on ideas of what to build a site around- pick a holiday. Then dig deep down into each of those niches and build a site around just that. I made a lot of my earlier money based on that concept. And it still works.

Had one site last year doing roughly $92/day during the October season.

[chestmary]

Hi,

I doing John's adsense blueprint except I'm using wordpress with SimpleX theme, so I have a few questions

Using the adsense block as John suggests I'm still getting word wrap...

so is there a code to stop the word wrap?
I can put a zemanta pic next to the adsense block? or is that a violation of googles many rules?

Is zemanta worth using?

Thanks
mary

[promo_guy]

Hi chestmary

What I did to solve this issue was I put a div around my adsense code, for example:

<div id="adsenseblock">
all your adsense javascript info
</div>

Then in my stylesheet.css I put something like:

.div {padding: 10px 300px 20px 0px;}

This way I create a bit of padding so a) the Adsense block isn't too close to my page title or anything else that could go against G's TOS and b) by adding 300 pixels of padding it pushes anything to the right of the Adsense block down, if that makes sense.

Not saying it's the only solution but it's a simple one.

[chestmary]

Hi Promo,

After floundering around trying to make so many turkeys make money and failing, simple is what I look for now so thanks for this solution.

mary

[promo_guy]

Hi Mary

No problem. I was just going to say, if you're using an Adsense plugin to inject your adsense, then this solution can still work but it was under the premise that you were manually placing the code in your single.php or page.php.

I believe it would still work if you were using an Adsense plugin but I haven't tried.

Since I'm adding my adsense to my page.php, I use the div tag. However, there's a little bit of extra code to make sure Adsense doesn't show up on your About, Contact, etc. pages but only on your "money keyword" page(s).

If you get stuck in any way, just PM me and I'll help you out

[hamburglar]

Originally Posted by Kael41

One of the reports I made ages ago was targetted around seasonal adsense sites. Put it to you this way- way to many people get bogged down in the details. If you short on ideas of what to build a site around- pick a holiday. Then dig deep down into each of those niches and build a site around just that. I made a lot of my earlier money based on that concept. And it still works.

Had one site last year doing roughly $92/day during the October season.

That is excellent.

The seasonal sites do well. A client of mine made a site around olympics and he was pulling in around $200/day during the summer time. Now that is serious cash.

[kingside]

Quick question for those following xfactor's system. I started out with 4 out of my 5 sites ranking very well (first page) right when they were indexed for their terms. Since then my sites are indexed, but are completely buried for my keywords. I don't really understand the difference, the niches are not at all more competitive.

Is it just one of those peculiarities? Sometimes you're good to go straight away and sometimes you're buried and have to work your way up? Just want to be sure I'm not committing some grave errors or something.

[promo_guy]

I don't work for google but my question to you kingside is are you hammering your new sites with articles, backlinks, etc.?

I ask because I have one site that started getting indexed about 2 weeks ago or so and it's not only on page 1 for the main keyword but for a variation of the keyword my site keeps climbing the SERPs.

So far, all I've done is add content on a daily basis, submitted my RSS feed, done VERY few bookmarks, placed my link on a small amount of sites, and that's it. What I've concluded is with new sites just take your time with getting backlinks, add a little bit of content each day, ping your site maybe twice a week max, etc.

It's only been 2 weeks so my site may do the Google Jig as well, but compared to hammering my sites with links right out the gate, this more subtle strategy seems to be working for me and it makes sense if you think about it.

What have you done to get backlinks? Btw, another site of mine showed up on pg 1 in G out of 65million results and I had maybe 5 backlinks. My keyword was in the domain but once I hammered it with backlinks *poof! it's gone, other than Yahoo lol

If the niche is hardly competitive, sometimes you don't need any links, or very few.

What's been your linking strategy? I'd be curious to know.

[kingside]

Compared to most I'm not hammering the links at all. After I launch a new site I submit it to digg to get indexed, then submit 3-4 articles over the course of about a week. I also use OnlyWire to bookmark the site in about 4 places.

I'm trying to build links in a natural way, and in a way that let's me evaluate results before throwing more time / money at a site. That's hard to do that when I'm on page 12 .

Out of curiosity are your sites on shared hosting? My first five sites are all on my VPS (private IPs and unique nameservers). These latest sites have been on Hostgator, so that makes me wonder a bit. I do know, though, that many people here use Hostgator, so it can't be in and of itself a serious long-term problem.

[promo_guy]

I have my sites on my VPS too. I have about 8 hosting accounts and dozens of class C Ips but for now I'm using my main VPS all on the same ip/same nameservers.

Hmmm...not sure then.

The common answer is that it takes a while for sites to settle, or the google dance, or whatever. However, like I said, some of my sites once they get to page 1 never get bumped to page 50 or whatever UNLESS I do something like even semi-aggressive link building. But it sounds like your linking strategy is pretty safe.

My gut says it's not Hostgator. Unless of course your shared IP has been blacklisted. Do you interlink your sites to one another?

Anyway, it's all speculation at this point. You never know, tomorrow they could all be back to page 1

Sorry I couldn't be of more help

[TristanPerry]

Originally Posted by kingside

Quick question for those following xfactor's system. I started out with 4 out of my 5 sites ranking very well (first page) right when they were indexed for their terms. Since then my sites are indexed, but are completely buried for my keywords. I don't really understand the difference, the niches are not at all more competitive.

Is it just one of those peculiarities? Sometimes you're good to go straight away and sometimes you're buried and have to work your way up? Just want to be sure I'm not committing some grave errors or something.

Just sounds like the Google Dance (without knowing more exact time-frames in this)?

Also, the hosting set-up shouldn't affect anything. I host mine on (one of) my servers, it's not a bad thing, though, whether you use shared/VPS/dedicated.

[kingside]

The timeframe is pretty small. The sites have only been indexed for 4-5 days, it was just weird to me that my initial handful of sites went straight to the top and my last few are buried. I will wait patiently .

I'll actually probably keep building links slowly and adding new content every couple of days. The most frustrating thing is that my digg story is still on the main page for one of my keywords, and I'm seeing traffic and adsense clicks from people getting routed to my site through that story! So I know when I hit the main page it'll be a nice little niche.

I'll keep ya updated.

[TristanPerry]

Yeah that is a bit strange. It's just the way it is sometimes. Some take a few days to get to the top, some take 5-7 days just to get indexed! (In my experiences)

It's just a waiting game really.

[Agent007]

Further up this post it was mentioned that Google Adsense does not like us to use automated search ranking tools to see our website's ranking. so are you guys doing this manually?

Or is there an easier way other than just setting up the correct Google search URL for the keyword in an Excel spreadsheet and cut and pasting it into my browser?

Thanks. This is a great thread.

[schnisz]

I have a question for anybody using the wordpress theme that was offered through John's site. I am having an alignment issue. Everything was set up fine, then out of the blue my main adsene block and content on my pages has become centered instead of aligned on the left like it originally was. I figure this may be an easy coding fix, but thats my weak point. appreciate any advice!

Brian

[kingside]

Maybe I'm just missing it, but are you downloading the WP from John's website? I'm in the members / download area and all I see are the ebooks and a couple of videos.

[schnisz]

There was a link to a third party there a couple of weeks ago, but it is gone now. I was wondering if anyone else had grabbed it while it was there.

[rainyclayday]

Just want to report on my 4 sites I made. The first 2 are making money and they get a CTR of no less than 25% but usually higher. Today I made $9.00 so far. The last 2 sites I made have not started earning yet.

So guys, it works, just keep on building your sites. I submitted the articles that he suggested and I also social bookmarked my sites, but that's all I have done.

[kingside]

Very nice rainyclay, how long have your sites been live?

[rainyclayday]

Not long, I just made them. Let's see, maybe 3 weeks for the first 2, and maybe 2 weeks for the second two. Not long at all. I am working on two more. I was going to do two per week but it's tough to keep up because I have all my other sites that I also have to keep up with which I do article marketing for every day. And I also have yet to ditch my day job.

But I like this Adsense method, it's a keeper I think.

[warrior123]

^^ nice spam attempt there sir.

[sarasayshi]

Originally Posted by warrior123

^^ nice spam attempt there sir.

Yes, he has posted the exact same post in 3-4 different threads.

[goingup]

Do you have to use WP or can you use any type of site builder you prefer?

Can you do this with CPA or affiliate products instead?

Once the site is up and you have submitted some articles, are you done with the site?
(set and forget).

Approximate time per site, including traffic generation?

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by kingside

Maybe I'm just missing it, but are you downloading the WP from John's website? I'm in the members / download area and all I see are the ebooks and a couple of videos.

No I do not (and would not) offer a "template" of any site structure.

My personal viewpoint is that everyone should learn the site-builder
of their choice like the back of their hand - as this will allow you to
make any site layout you want for any niche occasion.

Having said that, I do have a list of designers in the member download
area as well as in the forum that you can contact for your template
needs.

So if you purchased any templates from anyone, and are having
trouble or questions - you need to contact them for support.

I am out of the loop on all of the 3rd party services, and will maintain
my position on that.

- John