My Experience with Micro Niche Finder & Xfactor course

[latinoman231982]

hi guys

I just thought I would share my experience using Xfactors guide on making an income from adsense.

I first started implementing his methods from the original thread before the purchase of his course. Like many, I used my initiative and gained all the information i needed to start my first adsense site.

I have now completed 5 sites, and at this moment in time I am bringing in between 20 - 35 dollars daily. Im so baffled by members on this forum as they seem to ask irrelevant questions, and focus on small details that are not important. I am a COMPLETE noobie, I had just followed his course step by step and didnt worry about these small things that everyone is going on about.

My daily routine from day one involved creating a site with 4 keywords, submitting 3 articles for each keyword then moving on to my next site. Nothing else, nothing more.The one thing Ive learnt is that action is the most important step to take if you want to accomplish anything.

When I first started implementing Johns advice i mistakingly picked a niche that had over 250 SOC and 40,000 competing sites. At the time when I followed the guide i didnt have access to micro nichefinder, so was solely relying on google keyword. It wasn't till after the purchase of micro niche finder that i realised I had picked a keyword which would be hard to compete for.

Surprisingly, at this moment in time for the past 2 months this website with this keyword in the domain is ranking number 5 in google and brings me 30-40 unique visitor daily. I only have 35 articles submitted to this site. I guess the point im trying to make is that you shouldn't just rely on the numbers given to you, you should do some research before hand when using micro niche finder.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Anyways just thought i would share my experience so far and just want to say a great big thankyou to john. You have changed my life around :-)

[teleam]

Great Post. It all comes down to taking action. Think of John Xfactor course as a recipe and follow it exactly when starting out.

[Rhett]

I am with you completely--I've followed Xfactor's blueprint for Adsense (the initial post here on Warrior forum; not the course) and combined some tips from things suggested in the War Room, and I've been simply blown away at the ease of this, as well as how lucrative it really is.

Keep up the good work!

[internetmarketer99]

Great work, great post!

Many people get stuck sweating the details to the point of inaction. In many respects, it's quicker, and certainly more productive, to "do, then improve" rather than stall waiting for everything to be answered, confirmed, etc.

I've followed John's threads from the original one, and 'pre-purchased' the book the moment it was available.

Though I have my own methods, preferred tools, etc., everything I read from John was helpful, and accurate.

I created about 10 sites following John's outline. 8 of 10 are performing as well as, or better than expected.

Keep up your good work, continue moving forward. As you get a sense of what works, etc., focus your energy there; as you see things that don't give you the results you want, tweak them or re-focus those efforts elsewhere.

Mark

[eqalias]

I have tried his technique on 2 test sites, but I think I made a similar error in that I picked a very competitive keyword. It's starting to sound like I may have to invest in micro niche finder.

[latinoman231982]

Thanks guys for feedback. I have had alot of messages regarding my article strategy. Just though I would share that with you guys. Primarily I submit ALL my articles to Ezine. Once published with ezine I then rewrite those articles for GOARTICLES. From go articles I rewrite those articles and scatter them through lesser known article directories.

My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

I like to focus on 2 sites a week. My goal is to get each and every site earning a minimum of 4 dollars daily. Its a nice suprise when they earn more than expected. I dont really have a set schedule, I feel johns advice to go with the flow +internetmarketer 99 thread on consistency have helped me to keep plugging on.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

hi guys

I just thought I would share my experience using Xfactors guide on making an income from adsense.

I first started implementing his methods from the original thread before the purchase of his course. Like many, I used my initiative and gained all the information i needed to start my first adsense site.

I have now completed 5 sites, and at this moment in time I am bringing in between 20 - 35 dollars daily. Im so baffled by members on this forum as they seem to ask irrelevant questions, and focus on small details that are not important. I am a COMPLETE noobie, I had just followed his course step by step and didnt worry about these small things that everyone is going on about.

My daily routine from day one involved creating a site with 4 keywords, submitting 3 articles for each keyword then moving on to my next site. Nothing else, nothing more.The one thing Ive learnt is that action is the most important step to take if you want to accomplish anything.

When I first started implementing Johns advice i mistakingly picked a niche that had over 250 SOC and 40,000 competing sites. At the time when I followed the guide i didnt have access to micro nichefinder, so was solely relying on google keyword. It wasn't till after the purchase of micro niche finder that i realised I had picked a keyword which would be hard to compete for.

Surprisingly, at this moment in time for the past 2 months this website with this keyword in the domain is ranking number 5 in google and brings me 30-40 unique visitor daily. I only have 35 articles submitted to this site. I guess the point im trying to make is that you shouldn't just rely on the numbers given to you, you should do some research before hand when using micro niche finder.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Anyways just thought i would share my experience so far and just want to say a great big thankyou to john. You have changed my life around :-)

Wow, I'm speechless to read such a profound unsolicited post about
the work you put in based on my own blueprint.

Your post had some very good points about people worrying about
many small details.

I get tons of emails daily from customers asking so many questions that
there are no real answers for, nor can there be a scientific formula for
other questions.

It's all about action - diving into the deep waters.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by eqalias

I have tried his technique on 2 test sites, but I think I made a similar error in that I picked a very competitive keyword. It's starting to sound like I may have to invest in micro niche finder.

Unless you "tested" your sites for at least a month, then I would
not consider it a worthwhile endeavor.

Many of my sites take a least a month to start maturing. Sure I
get lucky right out of the gate, but this is not the norm.

- John

[eqalias]

Originally Posted by XFactor

Unless you "tested" your sites for at least a month, then I would
not consider it a worthwhile endeavor.

Many of my sites take a least a month to start maturing. Sure I
get lucky right out of the gate, but this is not the norm.

- John

And dont get me wrong, I'm not knocking the technique. The website I've based on my other keyword (100 searches per day, 127,000 competitors) already places 8th after two weeks, so I can see the potential. I'm just starting to think micro niche finder may be worth it just to save time looking for keywords so I have more time to write write write.

[John Hixson]

Cheers for that! Not purchased the course but it was xfactors thread that has inspired me to follow the same blueprint.

In the last 2 weeks I have set up 3 sites and am slowly breakifn teh first page with them - each day seems to see my rank go up one or two placings, hopefully this will continue and they will be looking at #1 in another week or so.

Even without that they are each earning about $2 a day. Not much but they are almost brand new and so I find that encouraging. I have also bought another 2 domains to start working on over the next few days.

Your point (and one xfactor bangs on about in his own thread) about not sweating the small stuff is a good one. i procrastinated for a few weeks, worrying about this and that - but having dived in I can assure anyone that it is nowhere near as difficult as you might think to get up and running. Obviously I am not 'there' yet, having just started my journey - but the results are certainly encouraging.

y advice to anyone considering it is buy a few domains, whack up some sites and get running with it. what's the worst that can happen? you lose $21 on domain names and a few days work?

Stop dreaming and start doing!

[kevinpotts]

The important thing is to take action set your mind in what you are about to do.

So if it's working fr you great give us any feedback as the months keep on going to see if it still works for you, if it doesn't you can also share what happened.

K

[ayolov]

I loved the simplicity of it;

Most techniques out here are elaborate and confusing, xfactor allowed people to grow and expand from a very basic formula, he has helped a great number of people understand adsense.

[latinoman231982]

I think another point mentioned by john that is very important is your personal mindset. I now truly believe that I CAN rank everysite and earn money. There is no try, but only do.

It's so bloody easy I almost kick myself everyday. That feeling I get when clicks start coming through just encourages me more to go full steam ahead.

As john stated in his thread and course, I feel the below phrase by the late Bruce Lee resonates well with anything you try to accomplish.

"Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”

[JMartin]

Originally Posted by XFactor

Unless you "tested" your sites for at least a month, then I would
not consider it a worthwhile endeavor.

That's why so many people end up failing. They built 1 site for whatever (Adsense, affiliate, etc), they they sit around and wait for results. Meanwhile valuable time passes.

It's like the guy who submits 1 article, waits for a bit, wonders why he isn't a millionaire yet and then concludes that article submissions are 100% worthless.

To the OP, grats on your success.

Kind of funny how we have all these ebooks and $500 courses when just 2 threads here (xfactor's and internetmarketer99's) give you everything you need to get going for f-r-e-e.

[Biggy Fat]

Alright, this is an inspiration to MANY. But one thing man: What exact template are you using? John's template (either your recreation of it or his that he offers in the members area), the Wordpress version that Kael offers, or another Wordpress theme? Hit me up.

[mikengo]

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

Wow, am I reading this right? Work from 3am to 6pm. That's 15 hours per day???

[John Hixson]

Originally Posted by Biggy Fat

Alright, this is an inspiration to MANY. But one thing man: What exact template are you using? John's template (either your recreation of it or his that he offers in the members area), the Wordpress version that Kael offers, or another Wordpress theme? Hit me up.

In all 3 of mine my CTR is roughly around the 6% mark and they are very basic, ugly templates that have a thin band at the top with the domain, a slightly smaller band with the few pages (usually 5) linked to.

All 3 use different templates but I have pretty much the same results.

The theme with a slightly higher CTR at the moment is Unembellished 2.0 (not sure where I downloaded it from I'm afraid) with the grpahic in the top left deleted (the only change I make).

But again that is just based on a couple of weeks and just shy of a thousand visitors - hopefully someone with more experience can post their best templates too.

[Kelly Verge]

The real gold in XFactor's thread isn't the core of the method. It's the backlinking.

All of the sites I've created have spiked mid-first page within a few days then dropped back into the hundreds for a couple of weeks. So far the two that are at the 4-week mark have jumped back to the first page and are creeping up.

I'm pretty sure the ongoing trickle of backlinks will keep most of these sites from being sandboxed - if not completely, I doubt that'll be sandboxed for long.

I completely agree with the OP. Take action without worrying about the exact details. Otherwise, by the time you actually get started you'll be to discouraged to make any real continuing effort. If you just take action, the first trickle of Adsense income will spur you to continue.

For the record, I have my own custom WP theme following the rough guidelines in the thread. I'm averaging 40% clickthrough for SE traffic.

[John Hixson]

Originally Posted by Kelly Verge

The real gold in XFactor's thread isn't the core of the method. It's the backlinking.

All of the sites I've created have spiked mid-first page within a few days then dropped back into the hundreds for a couple of weeks. So far the two that are at the 4-week mark have jumped back to the first page and are creeping up.

I'm pretty sure the ongoing trickle of backlinks will keep most of these sites from being sandboxed - if not completely, I doubt that'll be sandboxed for long.

I completely agree with the OP. Take action without worrying about the exact details. Otherwise, by the time you actually get started you'll be to discouraged to make any real continuing effort. If you just take action, the first trickle of Adsense income will spur you to continue.

For the record, I have my own custom WP theme following the rough guidelines in the thread. I'm averaging 40% clickthrough for SE traffic.

i've got a lot more testing to be doing!

[latinoman231982]

For those using Xsite pro and looking for the best base template to use for quickness and ease of use i suggest the "Wacky 1" template from the plain template section.

This is the template I use and I can easily modify it to Johns course standard.

[Biggy Fat]

Originally Posted by Kelly Verge

The real gold in XFactor's thread isn't the core of the method. It's the backlinking.

All of the sites I've created have spiked mid-first page within a few days then dropped back into the hundreds for a couple of weeks. So far the two that are at the 4-week mark have jumped back to the first page and are creeping up.

I'm pretty sure the ongoing trickle of backlinks will keep most of these sites from being sandboxed - if not completely, I doubt that'll be sandboxed for long.

I completely agree with the OP. Take action without worrying about the exact details. Otherwise, by the time you actually get started you'll be to discouraged to make any real continuing effort. If you just take action, the first trickle of Adsense income will spur you to continue.

For the record, I have my own custom WP theme following the rough guidelines in the thread. I'm averaging 40% clickthrough for SE traffic.

Awesome post. BTW Kelly, I have sent you PMs, did you ever get them?

Definitely take action. It is easy to article market using John's method.

[marketseeker]

Originally Posted by Biggy Fat

Alright, this is an inspiration to MANY. But one thing man: What exact template are you using? John's template (either your recreation of it or his that he offers in the members area), the Wordpress version that Kael offers, or another Wordpress theme? Hit me up.

what are you talking about? I don't understand a word of your question.

[marketseeker]

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

For those using Xsite pro and looking for the best base template to use for quickness and ease of use i suggest the "Wacky 1" template from the plain template section.

This is the template I use and I can easily modify it to Johns course standard.

Everyone who is using xfactors ideas to make money should come up the price or the course. If you're giving away his template and anything else from the course I hope he does something about it.

[NicheCowboy]

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Thanks guys for feedback. I have had alot of messages regarding my article strategy. Just though I would share that with you guys. Primarily I submit ALL my articles to Ezine. Once published with ezine I then rewrite those articles for GOARTICLES. From go articles I rewrite those articles and scatter them through lesser known article directories.

My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

I like to focus on 2 sites a week. My goal is to get each and every site earning a minimum of 4 dollars daily. Its a nice suprise when they earn more than expected. I dont really have a set schedule, I feel johns advice to go with the flow +internetmarketer 99 thread on consistency have helped me to keep plugging on.

30-40 articles before lunch? geez dude, the only thing that may slow you down is Kryptonite.

[itcoll]

thanks a lot for sharing this experience with us latinoman .One question i want to ask you is that do you use brand names just like how john did?

[LilBlackDress]

I have John's book also. I have made 3 sites but have not promoted them yet as I had another project to finish.

I am curious are you all following his method of getting the backlinks exactly as he shares and getting traffic
or are you putting your own spin on it.

I love the course....thanks John!

[LilBlackDress]

"My daily routine from day one involved creating a site with 4 keywords, submitting 3 articles for each keyword then moving on to my next site. Nothing else, nothing more.The one thing Ive learnt is that action is the most important step to take if you want to accomplish anything"

So are you submitting 12 articles per site?

"I only have 35 articles submitted to this site. I guess the point im trying to make is that you shouldn't just rely on the numbers given to you, you should do some research before hand when using micro niche finder."

35 articles is a lot...how many articles do most of your sites have?

[edpudol1973]

Are you using plain html here or using wordpress blog?

[secretjustin]

Latinoman231982 - Great job!

LilBlackDress - Don't worry about what he is doing. Every site YOU create will take a different amount of effort to get to #1 or whatever your goal is. For some sites, no matter how much effort you put in, there will be a maximum level that can be obtained. So Just starting doing something !

Of course IMHO - Peace

[latinoman231982]

Guys

I aim for 3 articles each keyword when first promoting each new site. From there onwards I have no rule set in stone, I just write my articles 30 -40 and split them between all websites and pages. After the first month I get a clearer idea of where to go from there.

I must point out that alot of people seem to be just ranking there main keyword and not focusing on other pages within the site. I increased the income of one of my sites from 3 dollars daily to 7 dollars just by paying attention to the other pages within my site. Also I submitted my urls to yahoo and bing from the bat, I now rank in there search engines giving me extra valuable clicks.

I am only using static html sites. I use xsite pro. I only have one site that uses a product name, in future will probably consider more.

On average I have about 30 -40 articles submitted for each keyword on my website. I started earning from submitting as little as 5 articles on all my sites but its my personal choice to focus on a small amount of sites and get them earning all between 10 - 15 dollars each. I add new content once a week for all my sites.

No one likes to waste time, I had the same insecurity at first..." What if I put in all this effort and make nothing or a little" you need to get rid of this mental block and just follow the blueprint, if you will, blindly. Have faith.

[John Hixson]

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Guys

I aim for 3 articles each keyword when first promoting each new site. From there onwards I have no rule set in stone, I just write my articles 30 -40 and split them between all websites and pages. After the first month I get a clearer idea of where to go from there.

I must point out that alot of people seem to be just ranking there main keyword and not focusing on other pages within the site. I increased the income of one of my sites from 3 dollars daily to 7 dollars just by paying attention to the other pages within my site. Also I submitted my urls to yahoo and bing from the bat, I now rank in there search engines giving me extra valuable clicks.

I am only using static html sites. I use xsite pro. I only have one site that uses a product name, in future will probably consider more.

On average I have about 30 -40 articles submitted for each keyword on my website. I started earning from submitting as little as 5 articles on all my sites but its my personal choice to focus on a small amount of sites and get them earning all between 10 - 15 dollars each. I add new content once a week for all my sites.

No one likes to waste time, I had the same insecurity at first..." What if I put in all this effort and make nothing or a little" you need to get rid of this mental block and just follow the blueprint, if you will, blindly. Have faith.

30-40 articles per KEYWORD? Wow, I have been greatly underestimating what some people are doing. Do you mean on site articles, GoArticles or a mix of the two?

For myself I have found just a few articles has got me onto the front page and the Google dance has them on the way up at the moment so moved onto new sites and will review after they have been up a month whether additional articles are needed.

I also submitted a few to EZA but made the mistake of starting a new user rather than using a pen name and it seems to be taking about 2-3 weeks for articles to be approved for new users. Won't be makign that mistake again (waiting for them to be approved before I make any real judgement on backlinking needed as well)

[latinoman231982]

Thats great john. You are right, most of all my sites ranked on first page with articles and some without. It's just a choice of main to build a bucket load of backlinks, then move on. I will rank every site between 1 -3 position, thats what i intend and THATS what i will do.

Lol. I made the same mistake at first with article submission. I use a mix of article directories to mix it up a bit.

[latinoman231982]

John, out of curiosity.. what part of london you moving to? lol. It would be great if any members near london area could meet up for a pint or 2 :-)

[John Hixson]

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Thats great john. You are right, most of all my sites ranked on first page with articles and some without. It's just a choice of main to build a bucket load of backlinks, then move on. I will rank every site between 1 -3 position, thats what i intend and THATS what i will do.

Lol. I made the same mistake at first with article submission. I use a mix of article directories to mix it up a bit.

Yeah, my target is 1 - 3 but as I said a few weeks in and waiting for some articles to bit means its hard to tell what serp position i ahve right now so moving on and will re-evaluate what linking I need to do to hit 1-3 in a couple of weeks.

Experimenting on another site with Squidoo again and it seems more powerful then before (when I found it wasn't much use), though article creation is easier for traditional article directories. Mixing my time right now between GoArticles (mainly - following on from johns advice) whilst also testing EZA and Squidoo. Any other ones worth testing you reckon?

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

John, out of curiosity.. what part of london you moving to? lol. It would be great if any members near london area could meet up for a pint or 2 :-)

Not sure yet, just on my way back to Wales (as soon as it stops raining, so maybe not today!) as I have been up here flat hunting. Nothing special but mostly looking around the clapham area. My girlfriend lives in East Dulwich so looking to be somewhere that is easy to get central and there via public transport (dont fancy driving much in London)

always up for a pint and a brainstorm. Well always up for a pint anyway!

[latinoman231982]

Thats good to hear john. Ive yet to use social media sites as such, but will give that a go on the weekend. I have found that getting backlinks from photo sharing sites is cool, there are some pr5 ones out there that have helped out alot.

But to be honest i just stick to the article marketing for the most part.

P.s I have a friend who owns estate agent branches throughout london. If you need any help looking for a place just give me a pm :-)

[mrtrance]

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Thanks guys for feedback. I have had alot of messages regarding my article strategy. Just though I would share that with you guys. Primarily I submit ALL my articles to Ezine. Once published with ezine I then rewrite those articles for GOARTICLES. From go articles I rewrite those articles and scatter them through lesser known article directories.

My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

I like to focus on 2 sites a week. My goal is to get each and every site earning a minimum of 4 dollars daily. Its a nice suprise when they earn more than expected. I dont really have a set schedule, I feel johns advice to go with the flow +internetmarketer 99 thread on consistency have helped me to keep plugging on.

Does it make a difference if we just submit the same Ezine article to other directories (GoArticles, etc..) without modifying it? Will those backlinks account or should we rewrite them every time we resubmit to another article directory?

[TristanPerry]

Awesome thread, am glad to hear of your experiences

I've made 4 sites so far, although I think that 2/3 of them are in overly competitive niches.

I'm aiming to purchase MNF at the end of this month then hopefully that'll help me greatly with my keyword research

As mentioned above, it does seem that the sites take up to a month to mature. One of the sites I made 3/4 weeks ago has only just finished its Google 'dance' and ended up on position 2 of Google for its keyword. Another, which I made a few days after that, is still un-responsive to backlinking and on around position 8 (so hopefully in a few days time it'll settle down and rise up a bit more)

But yeah, it's clearly a very powerful method and I look forward to working on it a lot more in the future, especially when I have MNF.

[latinoman231982]

i personally rewrite the articles. Ive heard you can submit the same article, but i dont know whether it would be counted as duplicate content or count less as a backlink. Maybe some one the forum can verify this?

[andyj00]

Great thread! Well done latinoman231982 and its great to hear of your success.

I have 4 sites that have been running for around a month but disappointly I only get around 0 - 5 visitors a day for every site. I've picked some good niches with all the right stats but just not getting the traffic.

I've submitted around 40 articles to ezines for the 4 sites and a few others to Goarticles. I've also done some of Angelas backlinks.

Any ideas why I'm getting no traffic?

Many thanks, and well done again

[jitterbug978]

People really do over complicate Adsense.... Just DO IT!!

Don't over-Think... Just do!

[godoveryou]

Originally Posted by John Hixson

30-40 articles per KEYWORD? Wow, I have been greatly underestimating what some people are doing. Do you mean on site articles, GoArticles or a mix of the two?

If it helps at all I'm averaging nearly 30 articles per keyword as well.... One site alone has 150 articles pointing at it, it made 7 cents today.... Sweet

[TristanPerry]

Edit: This turned into a long-ish post. The most important point, IMO, is thus: Sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off. Okay, onto the post now

Wow, some crazy number of articles-per-keyword ratios there. Are you sure you've found very low SOC keywords?

To put things into perspective - before buying John's course (but still going off the free 32 page thread) I found a nice keyword (which intuitively looked low competition) and bought a domain for it (the direct .com of the domain). I written around 15 articles for it, total. The entire site was based around just one keyword (getting 4,400 global exact searches)

It took a month, but it finally settled today - it's now in top position and has earned me £1.57 today alone.

Before it settled it was earning me £0.00 - £0.30 per day, although it seems now to have settled and 'matured' - like a good cheese

Oddly enough, my CTRs seem higher now that it's settled too. Perhaps I was getting less targetted traffic or something. But it honestly does seem like you just need to give it time.

I was a little disappointed at first (since some people seemed to have amazing results from this, from the offset), but I guess it just needs to be said clearly that sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off.

Also if you write and have 10 articles approved, but see no change in the rankings, don't worry. This is normal and part of the Google bounce. For the website I mentioned, Google still hasn't indexed or picked up on some of my backlinks. In time they'll be seen by Google, and will still count

For one other website I created, I wrote and had around 35 articles published. The website moved from page 9 to page 10!! It's just the way Google does things.

I've now got 4 micro niche websites and am leaving them settle and mature. Then I'll test, and make some more websites.

Just realise that it can take time, and don't be put off. Seeing people saying how amazing their results are will always be a little off-putting, but you must put them into context and remember - as John/xFactor has said - that most sites do take time to settle down.

Pick a good, solid niche/keyword set to go after, build a website and aim for 350-500 words per page, write 10+ articles for it (going after the main keyword), and leave it for around a month or more if needed. Just keep checking its position in the SERPs and you'll get there in the end.

[rainyclayday]

I don't write that many articles per site, at least not right off the bat for sure. In fact, nowhere near. I write maybe 20 per site, submit each site to some social bookmarking sites, answer a few Yahoo Answers for a couple of backlinks, and then move on to the next site. They all do fine, but some of them take a while to get going. I really think the best thing is build the site, write your articles, and then just move on and put up another site. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

I just started with the Adsense sites using John's method last week, but I have lots of Adsense sites already plus many affiliate sites, and I've had the best success with the method I just described. I've had the worst success when I've focused too much on one site and kept writing and writing for it and stressing about where it was in the rankings. So I stopped doing that. Less stress and more dollars.

[latinoman231982]

Andy

Well i am assuming you are on the first page of google for your sites, and are in a good serp position for clicks. There is a sweet spot.

One thing ive learnt is that not to always take the search volume from google at face value. I used a keyword for one of my sites that according to google recieves 7000 searches a month, and i came in the number 3 position in google. I recieved 5 visitors daily.

No keyword tool will have accurate search volume results, you can only hope in some cases. You also got to remember microniche finder pulls its results from google as well.

After I have checked google search volume i use wordtracker to get a rough estimate of daily searches and come to a conclusion from there.

Whats your estimated search volume for your key word? Try wordtrackers fee keyword tool and let me know it gives the same result. :-)

[John Hixson]

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

Edit: This turned into a long-ish post. The most important point, IMO, is thus: Sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off. Okay, onto the post now

Wow, some crazy number of articles-per-keyword ratios there. Are you sure you've found very low SOC keywords?

To put things into perspective - before buying John's course (but still going off the free 32 page thread) I found a nice keyword (which intuitively looked low competition) and bought a domain for it (the direct .com of the domain). I written around 15 articles for it, total. The entire site was based around just one keyword (getting 4,400 global exact searches)

It took a month, but it finally settled today - it's now in top position and has earned me £1.57 today alone.

Before it settled it was earning me £0.00 - £0.30 per day, although it seems now to have settled and 'matured' - like a good cheese

Oddly enough, my CTRs seem higher now that it's settled too. Perhaps I was getting less targetted traffic or something. But it honestly does seem like you just need to give it time.

I was a little disappointed at first (since some people seemed to have amazing results from this, from the offset), but I guess it just needs to be said clearly that sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off.

Also if you write and have 10 articles approved, but see no change in the rankings, don't worry. This is normal and part of the Google bounce. For the website I mentioned, Google still hasn't indexed or picked up on some of my backlinks. In time they'll be seen by Google, and will still count

For one other website I created, I wrote and had around 35 articles published. The website moved from page 9 to page 10!! It's just the way Google does things.

I've now got 4 micro niche websites and am leaving them settle and mature. Then I'll test, and make some more websites.

Just realise that it can take time, and don't be put off. Seeing people saying how amazing their results are will always be a little off-putting, but you must put them into context and remember - as John/xFactor has said - that most sites do take time to settle down.

Pick a good, solid niche/keyword set to go after, build a website and aim for 350-500 words per page, write 10+ articles for it (going after the main keyword), and leave it for around a month or more if needed. Just keep checking its position in the SERPs and you'll get there in the end.

Very good post and great to hear as that is exactly what I am following. I had noticed in sites not created following this system that it can take between a month or two for a site to settle, and sometimes longer to climb the rankings.

Which is why I am not offput by my sites not reaching #1 yet. They have bounced around a bit but the sites are slowly rising in what feels to me to be their 'base level'.

Keep backlinking, keep adding content and keep creating new sites. this is a numbers game. You might want every site ranking but it will take time nd you will need at least a month to assess what you need to do.

Obviously this experience is NOT from following John's method, which I am just starting on, but from experience with other sites that I have created following different methods.

[TristanPerry]

Originally Posted by John Hixson

Very good post and great to hear as that is exactly what I am following. I had noticed in sites not created following this system that it can take between a month or two for a site to settle, and sometimes longer to climb the rankings.

Which is why I am not offput by my sites not reaching #1 yet. They have bounced around a bit but the sites are slowly rising in what feels to me to be their 'base level'.

Keep backlinking, keep adding content and keep creating new sites. this is a numbers game. You might want every site ranking but it will take time nd you will need at least a month to assess what you need to do.

Obviously this experience is NOT from following John's method, which I am just starting on, but from experience with other sites that I have created following different methods.

Thank you And yes, I quite agree. It does seem like it just takes time.

It's funny how it works out, but it is sometimes the case that a website's rankings just "click" - or reach their "base level" as you say

[wolfmmiii]

Originally Posted by rainyclayday

I don't write that many articles per site, at least not right off the bat for sure. In fact, nowhere near. I write maybe 20 per site, submit each site to some social bookmarking sites, answer a few Yahoo Answers for a couple of backlinks,

I know some will disagree but I'm not sure the Yahoo Answers links are all that helpful except for traffic. From a backlinking perspective, they are no-follow if I recall correctly.

[godoveryou]

No follow isn't completely worthless. It still factors into the PR algorithm currently used.

It's worthless for indexing, and anchor text draw however so that's absolutely correct in that sense.

[andyj00]

Originally Posted by godoveryou

No follow isn't completely worthless. It still factors into the PR algorithm currently used.

It's worthless for indexing, and anchor text draw however so that's absolutely correct in that sense.

Yes I have some Yahoo Answers backlinks showing in my Webmaster Tools (and some other nofollow links) for some of my older sites.
So they are counted - but how much value they have - I dont know, but they are there.

[andyj00]

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Andy

Well i am assuming you are on the first page of google for your sites, and are in a good serp position for clicks. There is a sweet spot.

One thing ive learnt is that not to always take the search volume from google at face value. I used a keyword for one of my sites that according to google recieves 7000 searches a month, and i came in the number 3 position in google. I recieved 5 visitors daily.

No keyword tool will have accurate search volume results, you can only hope in some cases. You also got to remember microniche finder pulls its results from google as well.

After I have checked google search volume i use wordtracker to get a rough estimate of daily searches and come to a conclusion from there.

Whats your estimated search volume for your key word? Try wordtrackers fee keyword tool and let me know it gives the same result. :-)

Hi latinoman

I think the problem is - that I'm not on page 1 for my main keywords on any site. My sites were on page 1 when they were first lauched for a few days - then settled down several pages lower (as they normally do).

Using seobook ranker tool, These are the position of each of the main keywords for each site in Google.com:

Site 1 postion 15
Site 2 position 65
Site 3 not in top 200
Site 4 position 115

I've picked the keywords in specific niches based excatly on xfactors recommendation for keywords (ie no of searches, no of competing pages etc..). All have an SOC of less than 10 and have more than 2000/2500 searches per month.

For backlinks, I have 10 articles submitted to ezines for each site and around another 30 submitted to Goarticles. I have submited to quite a lot of Angelas backlinks which usually do work. I have also submitted to a few socialbookmarks using socialmarker.

I thought my sites would have done a little better than this by now as they have been live for around a month and a half?

The only thing I can think of is that I'm using shared web hosting and have several other older sites sharing, could this make any difference? They are all seperate domain name but obviusly all share the same IP address.

Thanks
Andy