If you direct link read this

Brian_Mahaffey · 09-18-2009, 03:30 PM

I have been getting my hard work ripped off for TOOO long!

Without Cloaking
Prosper202.com » Google.com
In the above example, google.com can tell Prosper202.com was the referer

With Cloaking
Prosper202.com » Example.com/redirect.php » Google.com
Notice now, you are going to google.com through example.com/redirect.php, google now thinks that you came from example.com/redirect.php, you have succesfully cloaked this referer. Google.com does not know now that you came from Prosper202.com, it thinks you came from Example.com/redirect.php.

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Thanks for our friends at tracking 202.

Matt Cromie · 09-18-2009, 03:43 PM

Thanks is this what Frank Kern used in Screw Google video? (but with yahoo)

Brian_Mahaffey · 09-18-2009, 04:41 PM

Yea -
the reverend used that in SCREW GOOGLE!

Joe118 · 09-18-2009, 06:00 PM

Brian do you have any evidence that someone (the network?) is cloning your successful campaigns?

Brian_Mahaffey · 09-18-2009, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe118

Brian do you have any evidence that someone (the network?) is cloning your successful campaigns?

They are not going to tell you they are doing it but they do it. They cannot really clone on placements using tools. But it was the same patterns over and over. Once converting it would last only a day or 2 and then someone would outbid me.
Following email trails it started to make sense someone was stealing what I was doing-- - this happens all the time.Even though I cannot prove who it was it was happening as I saw the same patterns again and again.

Intrepreneur · 09-19-2009, 06:22 AM

Brian who is stealing- Prosper/Tracking 202?

I noticed that after adding Prosper202 my clicks went through the roof and soon after my Cost per click went way too high to compete with on all my keywords I was using.

Brian_Mahaffey · 09-19-2009, 06:57 AM

No not proper202- the networks are stealing - or someone at least.

I use self hosted prosper202

pauljeaston · 09-22-2009, 08:02 AM

Hi Brian, I am a customer of yours with your ebook about google streak. Can you provide a video of tracking with prosper202, i think it is very important.

Brian_Mahaffey · 09-22-2009, 08:36 AM

Hi Paul,
All the videos you need for tracking202 are on their webpage
Free PPC Affiliate Tracking Software | Tracking202
Their videos explain exactly what you need to do to setup tracking202.

Cheers

Brian_Mahaffey · 09-22-2009, 12:28 PM

Here is a way that looks like it will always hide the referer. A double metarefresh with 2 different domains

Double Meta Refresh Tutorial – Hide Your Traffic Sources! | Making Money With PPC Coach

pauljeaston · 09-29-2009, 04:29 AM

Are you saying Bri that prosper202 is not that effective in cloaking your traffic sources?

WareTime · 09-29-2009, 12:27 PM

What is wrong with simply using Hiderefer dot com or one of the shortening services. Bit.ly and others offer tracking.

Brian_Mahaffey · 10-15-2009, 11:46 AM

If you read what tracking 202 says it does not always hide it.
Anyways here are some scripts that will help

It works like this:
Your placement URL -->>> yourserver1.com/index.php -->>> yourserver2.com/index.php -->> CPA network

You would need to own server1 and server2 to do this.

Here are the steps.

---------------------------------------------------

Step 1) Create this php file on yourserver1.com
For example you can call it this.

http://yourserver1.com/link/primads1.php

The file would look like this. It grabs stuff from the URL you pass to it and pushes it on to yourserver2.com

<?
$keyword = $_GET['subid'];
$offer = $_GET['offer'];
$e = $_GET['e'];
?>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://yourserver2.com
/link/primads2.php?subid=<? echo $keyword; ?>&offer=<? echo $offer; ?>&e=
<? echo $e; ?>" />
</head>
</html>
---------------------------------------------------

Step 2) Create this PHP file on yourserver2.com
This could be called
http://yourserver2.com/link/primads2.php

This takes the stuff from the URL that was given to it from server1 and then passes it onto the CPA network. The CPA network now only see's traffic coming from yourserver2.com

<?
$keyword = $_GET['subid'];
$offer = $_GET['offer'];
$e = $_GET['e'];
?>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://<? echo $offer; ?>&e=<? echo
$e; ?>&subid=<? echo $keyword; ?>" />
</head>
</html>
---------------------------------------------------

Step 3) Put this link in your adwords placement (for each placemnt), and remember to make the subID unique for "each placement" so you can track it.
After the offer= in the URL put your affiliate link.

http://yourserver1.com/link/primads1...=gp-205&offer= { affiliate link }

NOTE: the affiliate offer does NOT have the "http" part in it. Here is an example of how it would look.

http://yourserver1.com/link/primads1...d=3453&e=34567
---------------------------------------------------

Step 4) Go to your subid tracking on the affialte network and you will see subid gp-205 conversions in this example. Now go back to adwords and see what that number (205) is matched to for that placement.

Enjoy!

clickbump · 10-15-2009, 11:57 AM

I'm trying to follow this just out of sheer curiosity. But in reading the Tracking 202 reference site, the example describes how someone would click a link FROM your site TO google.com. How often does that happen? Most of the time, its the other way around.

Can someone help me understand?

UPDATE: nevermind, I think I get it now. The link on your site would normally be directed to your affiliate's landing page (not google as in the example). So you are trying to hide the data about how you attracted that user to your site, so your affiliate will not know your tactics and steal them, cutting you out.

I was confused since Google does play a part in PPC, but from their site To yours (as in the case of using adwords to generate traffic to an offer page), not the other way around. So that's where I was getting off track...

Brian_Mahaffey · 10-15-2009, 12:01 PM

You are correct sir!

09-18-2009, 03:30 PM	#1
Brian_Mahaffey HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 315 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	If you direct link read this I have been getting my hard work ripped off for TOOO long! Without Cloaking Prosper202.com » Google.com In the above example, google.com can tell Prosper202.com was the referer With Cloaking Prosper202.com » Example.com/redirect.php » Google.com Notice now, you are going to google.com through example.com/redirect.php, google now thinks that you came from example.com/redirect.php, you have succesfully cloaked this referer. Google.com does not know now that you came from Prosper202.com, it thinks you came from Example.com/redirect.php. read full article here Prosper202 Self Hosted Apps Thanks for our friends at tracking 202.
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09-18-2009, 04:41 PM	#3
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09-19-2009, 06:57 AM	#7
Brian_Mahaffey HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 315 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: If you direct link read this No not proper202- the networks are stealing - or someone at least. I use self hosted prosper202
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09-22-2009, 08:36 AM	#9
Brian_Mahaffey HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 315 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: If you direct link read this Hi Paul, All the videos you need for tracking202 are on their webpage Free PPC Affiliate Tracking Software \| Tracking202 Their videos explain exactly what you need to do to setup tracking202. Cheers
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09-22-2009, 12:28 PM	#10
Brian_Mahaffey HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 315 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: If you direct link read this Here is a way that looks like it will always hide the referer. A double metarefresh with 2 different domains Double Meta Refresh Tutorial – Hide Your Traffic Sources! \| Making Money With PPC Coach
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09-29-2009, 04:29 AM	#11
pauljeaston Pauljeaston Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: If you direct link read this Are you saying Bri that prosper202 is not that effective in cloaking your traffic sources?
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09-29-2009, 12:27 PM	#12
WareTime HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 362 Thanks: 17 Thanked 34 Times in 28 Posts	Re: If you direct link read this What is wrong with simply using Hiderefer dot com or one of the shortening services. Bit.ly and others offer tracking.

10-15-2009, 11:46 AM	#13
Brian_Mahaffey HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 315 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: If you direct link read this If you read what tracking 202 says it does not always hide it. Anyways here are some scripts that will help It works like this: Your placement URL -->>> yourserver1.com/index.php -->>> yourserver2.com/index.php -->> CPA network You would need to own server1 and server2 to do this. Here are the steps. --------------------------------------------------- Step 1) Create this php file on yourserver1.com For example you can call it this. http://yourserver1.com/link/primads1.php The file would look like this. It grabs stuff from the URL you pass to it and pushes it on to yourserver2.com <? $keyword = $_GET['subid']; $offer = $_GET['offer']; $e = $_GET['e']; ?> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://yourserver2.com /link/primads2.php?subid=<? echo $keyword; ?>&offer=<? echo $offer; ?>&e= <? echo $e; ?>" /> </head> </html> --------------------------------------------------- Step 2) Create this PHP file on yourserver2.com This could be called http://yourserver2.com/link/primads2.php This takes the stuff from the URL that was given to it from server1 and then passes it onto the CPA network. The CPA network now only see's traffic coming from yourserver2.com <? $keyword = $_GET['subid']; $offer = $_GET['offer']; $e = $_GET['e']; ?> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://<? echo $offer; ?>&e=<? echo $e; ?>&subid=<? echo $keyword; ?>" /> </head> </html> --------------------------------------------------- Step 3) Put this link in your adwords placement (for each placemnt), and remember to make the subID unique for "each placement" so you can track it. After the offer= in the URL put your affiliate link. http://yourserver1.com/link/primads1...=gp-205&offer= { affiliate link } NOTE: the affiliate offer does NOT have the "http" part in it. Here is an example of how it would look. http://yourserver1.com/link/primads1...d=3453&e=34567 --------------------------------------------------- Step 4) Go to your subid tracking on the affialte network and you will see subid gp-205 conversions in this example. Now go back to adwords and see what that number (205) is matched to for that placement. Enjoy!
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10-15-2009, 12:01 PM	#15
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