New niche site. Gangbusters for first two days, and then...

clickbump · 09-23-2009, 12:47 PM

This is probably a word to the wise more than anything, about redirects and the virtue of patience (which apparently I'm in need of).

Just launched a niche site a few days ago, literally 4 days ago it was indexed and sat at #5-10 for several keywords in this niche.

There was one problem though, I had built this site as a copy of another. I do this all offline, then change the content as the next step, all my sites share the same look and feel. In my haste, I apparently uploaded the homepage with the previous site's content before changing it offline first. I replaced the content a few minutes later, but not before it got indexed by Google's adsense bot.

Well, the ads that were showing were pertinent to the previous site's content, even though the content had been changed. No matter what I did, I could not get the adsense to change from serving ads relevant to the old site.

So in my impatience, I created an alternative home page and did an htaccess redirect from index.html to keyword.html

This allowed users visiting the site from my top page G ranking to see the relevant ads and I made some cash for a couple of days....until today.

The site's now been delisted from google. site:domainname and info:domainname returns nothing.

I've removed the redirect and sure enough, the adsense ads are still showing up as if they were on that previous site's home page.

Since I expect this probably hasn't happened to anyone else in quite the same manner, I suppose I could ask for any tips on getting relisted in G.

btw, my G webmaster account still shows the site ranking from 5-12 on about 10 keywords even though site:domain and info:domain returns nothing.

DavidJohnny · 09-23-2009, 12:52 PM

Bummer. In my mind, better off to just scrap it and move on to a new domain. With time, it should be OK though. I've seen Adsense take a few days to come to its senses.

clickbump · 09-23-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJohnny

Bummer. In my mind, better off to just scrap it and move on to a new domain. With time, it should be OK though. I've seen Adsense take a few days to come to its senses.

I can get the .org on the same domain. I expect I will go for that and relaunch as .org with everything (except the silly mistakes) the same as before.

This will be an interesting case study for ranking with .Net vs .Org

I can't imagine any way the .org could fare better than the .NET did on the launch performance.

I'm making an educated guess that it was the redirect that got me delisted. But this is a $3-4 ppc keyword, so I suppose there is a chance that someone who purchased the adwords could have asked G to review the site? Has that happened to anyone here?

Andrew O · 09-23-2009, 02:27 PM

Never happened to me quite like that, but I have noticed AdSense getting "stuck" with irrelevant keywords before. But if Google has still delisted your site, you might want to try starting over with .org, it's only been 4 days, right? That might be the safest bet.

Black Hat Cat · 09-23-2009, 05:19 PM

The site was only 4 days old. The de-indexing likely had nothing to do with any actions you took, it was likely because it is so new. Just put it up the way you want it, remove the redirect, and get some links to it, and it will be back in the index in no time.

coops223 · 09-23-2009, 11:21 PM

Yeah as Black Cat stated, you're just dancing.

clickbump · 09-24-2009, 09:43 AM

Just ran rankchecker and guess what?

Site is back at #6!

I just put adsense back up. Of course I had already removed the redirect from the htaccess file and vowed never to try that one again. As a bonus, now the home page adsense ads are relevant!

I expect to start getting clicks and conversions any moment now...

UPDATE: Just registered a .75 click!
Only a few moments since I enabled adsense again.

This keyword is a definite winner from early performance. I expect the CPC numbers to decline a bit though, but at $3.75 adwords, there is some room to move and still be in the money with sound backlinking.

clickbump · 09-26-2009, 07:28 PM

Update: Site still sitting at #6 and having a big day today. Only a week old and has garnered over $25 and counting.

09-23-2009, 12:47 PM	#1
clickbump Scott Blanchard War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 804 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 122 Thanked 220 Times in 103 Posts Social Networking	New niche site. Gangbusters for first two days, and then... This is probably a word to the wise more than anything, about redirects and the virtue of patience (which apparently I'm in need of). Just launched a niche site a few days ago, literally 4 days ago it was indexed and sat at #5-10 for several keywords in this niche. There was one problem though, I had built this site as a copy of another. I do this all offline, then change the content as the next step, all my sites share the same look and feel. In my haste, I apparently uploaded the homepage with the previous site's content before changing it offline first. I replaced the content a few minutes later, but not before it got indexed by Google's adsense bot. Well, the ads that were showing were pertinent to the previous site's content, even though the content had been changed. No matter what I did, I could not get the adsense to change from serving ads relevant to the old site. So in my impatience, I created an alternative home page and did an htaccess redirect from index.html to keyword.html This allowed users visiting the site from my top page G ranking to see the relevant ads and I made some cash for a couple of days....until today. The site's now been delisted from google. site:domainname and info:domainname returns nothing. I've removed the redirect and sure enough, the adsense ads are still showing up as if they were on that previous site's home page. Since I expect this probably hasn't happened to anyone else in quite the same manner, I suppose I could ask for any tips on getting relisted in G. btw, my G webmaster account still shows the site ranking from 5-12 on about 10 keywords even though site:domain and info:domain returns nothing.
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09-24-2009, 09:43 AM	#7
clickbump Scott Blanchard War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 804 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 122 Thanked 220 Times in 103 Posts Social Networking	Re: New niche site. Gangbusters for first two days, and then... Just ran rankchecker and guess what? Site is back at #6! I just put adsense back up. Of course I had already removed the redirect from the htaccess file and vowed never to try that one again. As a bonus, now the home page adsense ads are relevant! I expect to start getting clicks and conversions any moment now... UPDATE: Just registered a .75 click! Only a few moments since I enabled adsense again. This keyword is a definite winner from early performance. I expect the CPC numbers to decline a bit though, but at $3.75 adwords, there is some room to move and still be in the money with sound backlinking.
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clickbump Scott Blanchard War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 804 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 122 Thanked 220 Times in 103 Posts Social Networking	Re: New niche site. Gangbusters for first two days, and then... Update: Site still sitting at #6 and having a big day today. Only a week old and has garnered over $25 and counting.
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09-23-2009, 05:19 PM	#5
Black Hat Cat Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: , , . Posts: 2,269 Thanks: 21 Thanked 592 Times in 334 Posts	Re: New niche site. Gangbusters for first two days, and then... The site was only 4 days old. The de-indexing likely had nothing to do with any actions you took, it was likely because it is so new. Just put it up the way you want it, remove the redirect, and get some links to it, and it will be back in the index in no time.

09-23-2009, 11:21 PM	#6
coops223 Warrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New niche site. Gangbusters for first two days, and then... Yeah as Black Cat stated, you're just dancing.