Backlinking!

[CatherineAKACeeCee]

Please enlighten me I'm a newbie and I'm a little confussed... How is it possible for page that has no backlinks to rank higher then a page that has 364 backlinks?

[AnnaOlgushka]

it come down to keywords.

First if your website is dog trainingobedienceforwomenlivinginnewyork.com
and you search for the term "dog training obedience for women living in newyork"
you can outrank a website that has 3564 backlinks which have the anchor text "cat training" and have some dog related information on their site

Second, most people when getting backlinks play the number game and get tons of backlinks without anchor text at all; or anchor text like "Click Here" "Find more information at this address"

I know 2 webmasters that have tons of backlinks and make peanuts with their websites.
The extreme being 45,000+ backlinks and making 500$ a month for a huge websites.


in fact with a good linking plan you can outperform sites that have more links than you

to come down to the examples of trainingobedienceforwomenlivinginnewyork.com with a linking campaign using LSI keywords you can outperform established websites(high PR) with some 20 links

my 22cents
Anna

[jasonmorgan]

How is it possible for page that has no backlinks to rank higher then a page that has 364 backlinks?

tricks by those who wear hats, typically in the color of black. backlinks can be hidden if you really know what you are doing.

[AnnaOlgushka]

Originally Posted by jasonmorgan

tricks by those who wear hats, typically in the color of black. backlinks can be hidden if you really know what you are doing.

yes you can hide links and do some advanced cloaking soups

but let assume we do only white hat here,

it come down to how do you check the backlinks to a website
yahoo site explorer provide some good info, but not as accurate than some software

my 22 cents
Anna

[Peter Adamson]

Originally Posted by AnnaOlgushka

it come down to how do you check the backlinks to a website

You cannot check the backlinks to a web site, period. Of all the companies in the world, only Google knows most (not all) of the links to a site. Yahoo's index is far smaller. Google has never and will never tell you more than a tiny sample of backlinks. All the software tools or sites that claim to tell you only leech the information off Yahoo.

Example: according to google, microsoft.com only has 54,000 backlinks!!

[CatherineAKACeeCee]

Cool James.... I did not know that. Thanks for responding RgCeeCee

[CatherineAKACeeCee]

Hi Anna,

Many thanks for responding... forgive my ignorance I'm a newbie... what's LSI?

[nettech]

LSI = Latent Semantic Indexing. Its a natural way of speech. Its originas are nothign to do with search but based around linguistincs. Because Google are acdemics, they have incorporated this into their alogorithm. In a nutshell its the natural way in which you use keywords in a sentence etc.

[CatherineAKACeeCee]

Nettech,

thanks for your reply....

[HCLee]

If you are checking Google backlinks you are not going to find anything as Google most of the time don't show. If they do, it's just a few. The number of backlinks a site has does not mean anything. The quality of backlinks is more important than the quantity. To me having 10 backlinks which have very high page rank, between PR6-PR10 is worth more than 100 backlinks from sites with PR1-PR2

[dburk]

Hi CatherineAKACeeCee,

If you study the SERPs you will quickly come to the realization that Google doesn't rank pages based on the number of backlinks. Google ranks pages based on relevance. Backlinks are important, not based on the number of backlinks, but for how they influence your page's relevancy score.

A few really well place backlinks can be worth more than thousands of low quality backlinks.

[ppcpimp]

I think everything has really been covered above but one other thing to consider is that all backlinks are not created equal. There are a lot of backlinks that will bring you no value at all.

[raphaellive1986]

Originally Posted by CatherineAKACeeCee

Please enlighten me I'm a newbie and I'm a little confussed... How is it possible for page that has no backlinks to rank higher then a page that has 364 backlinks?

I really don't know. But if you're question is how can a lower backlinks lower than 364 can have a higher rank. Ranking is not based on backlinks but is based on quality backlinks which means even if you have tons of backlink but none of it have a quality link.

[AJsVRE]

Originally Posted by Peter Adamson

You cannot check the backlinks to a web site, period. Of all the companies in the world, only Google knows most (not all) of the links to a site. Yahoo's index is far smaller. Google has never and will never tell you more than a tiny sample of backlinks. All the software tools or sites that claim to tell you only leech the information off Yahoo.

Example: according to google, microsoft.com only has 54,000 backlinks!!

I would just like to add to this, Matt Cutts answered a question roughly the same about this, and what he describes is that Google will NEVER show you all of the links with a link:domain.com search. What you see returned to you is a random sampling of links, and that random sampling includes links they hold in high regard, and links that they don't trust. The reason is, as Matt Cutts explained, if they showed you ONLY the links that they "count", it would be easy for people to reverse engineer a sites ranking and follow that.

He went on to explain that if you owned the domain, and registered it in google webmaster tools, that they would show you all the links to YOUR domain that they know of. Again, that's only if you own the site, you can check your OWN links, not links of someone else's site.