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Old 09-29-2009, 08:09 AM   #1
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www.domain.com/fruit/apple/apple.html

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www.domain.com/fruit/apple.html

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www.domain.com/fruit-apple.html


what is the best for structure for SEO out of the 3 links above?

your focus is apple with fruit being secondary....

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I would say the last URL structure is best, because it's closest to the home directory.

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What matters is that you get more good incoming links with both 'apple' and 'fruit' as the anchors and the rest won't matter.

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Id say first or third.

The first repeats the keyword apple which could help.

The last is closest to the home directory.

To be honest I dont think you would even notice a difference once you've got a couple hundred backlinks pointing towards your site. Especially if the rest of your page is optimized well. It may equate to a 2% difference.. maybe.

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Old 09-29-2009, 10:39 AM   #5
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What matters is that you get more good incoming links with both 'apple' and 'fruit' as the anchors and the rest won't matter.
Damn grasshopper. You took the pebble from my hand so quickly lol.

So all things being equal, you and your competitor have the same backlinks and anchor text, which structure wins

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Damn grasshopper. You took the pebble from my hand so quickly lol.

So all things being equal, you and your competitor have the same backlinks and anchor text, which structure wins
The first one would win.

But...you could gain the advantage by linking from relevant pages.

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I feel the 2nd one will be best.


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Old 09-29-2009, 09:54 PM   #8
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semantically number two is the best, so I submit that it would be for seo purposes as well.
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I think it is the last one.

I agree with Lovelylou

Because it is much closer to the home directory.
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:49 PM   #10
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Choose #3 . . . search engine will see it as "fruit", "apple", and "fruit apple"

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probably the 1st one, even though it's a repeated keyword

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I think is third.

since 1 looks a bit spammy. why repeat "apple" twice?
2nd, well, it is better that the page is closest to the home directory which I agree with lovelyyou so I choose the third or "C" or no.3 whatever you call it.

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I also feel that 2nd one is best.

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Its the first one, you get your KW in an extra time.
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What matters is that you get more good incoming links with both 'apple' and 'fruit' as the anchors and the rest won't matter.
I agree with bgmacaw. All are okay. The important thing is getting the links pointing specifically to the given URL. Having the keyword in the domain name or URL is just a bonus. So, whatever is easiest to manage for the webmaster I'd go with.

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First url took me to a page with hosting stuff.
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what is the best for structure for SEO out of the 3 links above?

your focus is apple with fruit being secondary....


What is the reason(s) for keeping us in suspense? Why test us? Why don't you just outright tell us? Ok...Number 3 or the last one is my pick.
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I say #2 because the keyword you're optimizing for doesn't share an extra keyword in the page url and it's closest to the root. Now if #3 was www.domain.com/apple-fruit.htm it would be my first choice because front-loading might negate the extra word. Curious to see the answer.
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i havent read the above answers...

it would be the 2nd one. You have "fruit" as a silo. Google would like to see apple.html and bananna.html and orange.html inside that directory....etc.

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Something is telling me all three are equal.


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Old 09-30-2009, 10:19 PM   #21
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Ok guys, sorry, but you're all wrong.

firstly, having a non-www domain has stronger prominence.

fruit-apple.domain.com/apple/ is much better.

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www.domain.com/fruit-apple.html


what is the best for structure for SEO out of the 3 links above?

your focus is apple with fruit being secondary....

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Old 09-30-2009, 10:35 PM   #22
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Let's see what gives when we search the big G.
Doing a search for fruit apple, no quotes,
After wikipedia, the top ranked one is a site with
domain.edu/blahblah/blahblah/fruits/apple1

Next site up is an article site, no apple or fruit in url.

The next site up is domain.com/apple-fruit

Now let's do a search for apple fruit
After wikipedia, an article site comes up with no apple
or fruit in the domain. The same article mentioned above.

Next site is domain.com/apple-fruit

Site after that is the first site above.

Seems like almost a wash.

The fact that the same article site came up with no keywords
in the url, fruit or apple, just shows the power of articles.

What matters seems to be what you do for SEO as opposed to
words in a url.

Looks like we need a 4th choice domain.com/apple-fruit

But it does look as if choice #1 is a definite loser in my little test.

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Damn grasshopper. You took the pebble from my hand so quickly lol.

So all things being equal, you and your competitor have the same backlinks and anchor text, which structure wins
There is no set rule they could both win given the day or time of day or carma or what ever else you want to call it.

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Ok I've given this some more thought and I think I have the answer..

It depends on what type of site you want to run.

If you want to become an authority site the following could be applied if this site is about.. food:

The longer URL's tell the search spiders (through your naviation structure) that you have an entire category on fruit and subcategories for each type of fruit.

The shorter URL would work better for articles not part of a specific category but have a stronger relation to the main content of the site.

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Ok I've given this some more thought and I think I have the answer..

It depends on what type of site you want to run.

If you want to become an authority site the following could be applied if this site is about.. food:

The longer URL's tell the search spiders (through your naviation structure) that you have an entire category on fruit and subcategories for each type of fruit.

The shorter URL would work better for articles not part of a specific category but have a stronger relation to the main content of the site.
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It depends on what type of site you want to run.
He just said assume their all the same.
Make them all content sites that have the same quality of content.

Google will favor one over the other.
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Wow! The feedback here is overwhelming. This one definitely stumps the professor. I'm of the mindset that URL structure is only a small part of rankings. That being said, if all things are equal, I'd go with number two.

#1 does give you any extra lift with the added folder/page.. its' just redundant and could be viewed as duplicate content or spam.

#2 is a pretty standard structure and the cleanest from a URL structure perspective.

#3. I'm not convinced that Google would know how to weight the phrases appropriately. How would it know that one is secondary to the other? It would probably ignore the hyphen and see it as a single phrase.

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I follow the structure of #2 personally. It's easier for me to manage and I believe looks more logical to the user... hopefully being more appealing to click on than the other results if the url is shown. :-) (But yes, I also follow the expansion line of thought as well as being easy for Google to read.)

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www.domain.com/fruit-apple.html wins

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I'll vote for number 3, because it is at the root folder, together with the index page. Since it contains both of the keywords 'fruit' and 'apple', I guess they will be treated almost equally. However, fruit appears first than apple, but if you optimize the keyword 'apple' in the page's content, then 'apple' will be given more focus.

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My vote goes for 1st one
coz fruit directory consists of apple sub directory giving information about apple..
but if you are using a single article then second one is best as it is considering fruit as sub directory
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