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First, I have to say that this forum is about the most helpful I have found. After visiting this forum, I thought, "Surely there are more out there like this with all this great information!" I looked and looked, but found nothing. Most forums are lucky to get the traffic in 1 year that warriorforum gets in 1 day!
So anyway, here is my experience with John's xFactor Adsense strategy. I really just started this about 1 week ago, so I don't have months' worth of experience to begin with, but that should change over time. September 23 - 30, 2009 1. Bought John's ebook and read through it that night. 2. Bought MicroNiche Finder. 3. Did some keyword research and chose keywords with these stats: ------------------------------------------ LS = local search count GS = global search count PC = exact phrase count SOC = strength of competition ------------------------------------------ Site 1 KWD1 - 2,400 LS; 3,600 GS; 13,900 PC; 21 SOC KWD2 - 2,400 LS; 1,600 GS; 7,040 PC; 11 SOC KWD3 - 720 LS; 590 GS; 69 PC; 1 SOC Site 2 KWD1 - 5,400 LS; 3,600 GS; 3,940 PC; 7 SOC KWD2 - 1,300 LS; 800 GS; 19,000 PC; 9 SOC KWD3 - 1,300 LS; 880 GS; 6,260 PC; 9 SOC Each of these keywords have at least 12 advertisers and minimum clicks are worth more than 45 cents. 4. Bought 2 domain names with KWD1 as domain name. Site 1 Domain name = KWD1review.com Site 2 Domain name = KWD1.org 5. Submitted 10 articles for each site to ezinearticles and goarticles. I rotated resource boxes this way: I always have my link to the home page of my site as one link with KWD1 as target keywords. I then rotate the KWD2 and KWD3 in the second link of the resource box. So right now I have 10 articles for each site with 10 links to the main page and 5 links to each secondary keyword. I wrote articles on completely unrelated subjects that my keywords. I wrote on something that I can write on fast. I submitted the exact same articles to ezinearticles and goarticles. 6. I submitted my sites to Google, verified my sites, and submitted a sitemap. I created my own website design that looks very similar to John's. 7. Results so far It took 7 days for both of my sites to get indexed. So far, only one page on each site is indexed, and neither of my main pages are indexed. Right now, none of my pages are ranking in any of the top 10 pages for my keywords, so I am still waiting. However, I did earn 21 cents yesterday. Must be related to someone clicking on an article becaue I have no traffic from Google yet. 8. What to do next? Just keep writing content and backlinks. I need to get my 2 sites up to five pages and keep writing articles for backlinks. How is everyone's else experience coming along? I read of these people creating sites and having it rank #1 or #2 in a week and making $2 a day from each site. That hasn't happened to me yet, but I understand that there is a lot we can't control with Google. |
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Good work. Keep it up man, you will start to see results and after that it will take a snowball effect. Just don't try and rush anything, like I did at first.
Creating a steady adsense income does not happen overnight. Rushing greatly reduces the quality of your individual sites content and backlinks. |
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That's a great start!!!
I am starting with John's program too, but I am still at the very first stage of doing keyword research! Keep up the work!! Good Luck!
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I think that you have done everything right, and now you just need to move on to another site (or 2) and just keep building more sites. Mine are taking around 3 weeks to start making money.
This is just my opinion, but once you have done all the steps, best thing to do is stop hammering at that site and sort of have an "okay, I'm done with that for now" mentality and move on. See what happens over the next few weeks but in the meantime just build more sites or work on your marketing in some other aspect. As you slowly see which sites are doing better, you can write more articles for backlinks later. What I do is I have a "master list" of all my sites with their resource box info which I keep in a notepad file. I go through that every day and write articles for the sites I'm currently promoting which include Adsense sites and others. I don't always write for the same sites, I change up as I see some are doing well and others may tank. If they just refuse to make any money I stop writing for them. Invariably though, those same sites I gave up on will eventually start bringing in some dollars down the road but they just might take a bit longer. At that point you could add them back into your article writing rotation. The master list of sites and resource boxes just makes it easy for me to submit them to EA. So bottom line - keep going, you are doing great. You will get results if you just soldier on. |
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Remember that if your domains are new, it will take some time for them to build up some history and credibility with Google. They may be sandboxed. It does take some time but what you're doing is absolutely correct, its all about moving on to the next niche, keep buildng and building. Just keep taking action, if you look at your AdSense earning all the time then its not going to happen but it seems you guys are cracking on with it.
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@ Aboutusnow: How many pages did you create in total for each site? Although your search volujme is between the receommended 5k - 10k mark, you may need about 5 pages initially. Also, to get your homepage indexed, go to pingler but dont overdo it, just once should be ok.
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October 1, 2009 Update
I think I got a lot accomplished today. I did some more keyword research to add 2 more pages to each of my current sites. I also now have keywords to create 3 more sites. I am trying to stay below 20,000 competing sites and 20 SOC for now. I think John said at one time he even likes to see competing sites below 10,000. I wrote 5 more articles today. It only took about an hour. One thing that I like about John's strategy is that article writing is primarily for backlinks, not clicks. I don't mind writing, but I couldn't imagine researching and writing articles for each niche every time I needed another backlink. I will keep writing, but will save these articles for when my new sites are up. And good news! This morning neither of my main pages were showing in the top 10 pages for my keyword. Now one is on the 3rd page and the other is on the 5th. Hopefully, this is just the beginning of their climb! |
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I've read John's product. It's good, the only thing I would recommend is more link building, espeically for the more competitive, two and three letter word keywords.
Remember, though, the SEO part just gets you traffic. The ultimate thing that will determine the success of his adsense method is the CTR. If his template only gets a 1% or 2% CTR, then it's like any other site. The only way it can be successful is if you get a HIGH CTR. However, if you do link building, you'll get ranked, espeically for these product based keywords. For example, do a search for: danskin yoga pilates mat pilatesyogamatdeals.com is one of the sites we've done SEO on. It's a four word keyword, longer tail, but we got ranked within days of launching the site and we're ranked #1, #2. When the on page factors and the off page factors all align, you'll get very good results. Anyway, only other thing I'd suggest is don't waste your time writing articles. If you want to be successful, learn to outsource and manage. |
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Thats the beauty of Johns guide. What John has achived is a way of ensuring that each page you build has a backlink to it. We're all guilty of building sites but not all pages have backlinks. His guide gives you a process with is uncluttered, manageable and whereby results can be achived very quickly.
He doesn't discount any of the methods such as Social bookmarking, further article marketing etc as all these work, he is just using his experience. Its all about time management, working smarter and not just harder! |
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Totally agree, however, most people can't afford to do this from the outset but I agree, Ive outsourced and its great when you dont have to write articles yourself.
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Usually after my Ezine is approved it gets indexed within a few hours. Then a few days later I submit to GoArticles, but in the last month or so none of them seem to get indexed. I had submitted a set back in mid August and when I check for them in Google either by the title or url they don't show up. What has been your experience with GoArticles recently? | |
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It's pretty simple.
Build the sites with a layout similar (as close as possible) to the one in John's course. Focus on physical products. Don't try to write reviews - just talk about features. Place the Adsense blocks as described. Do this and your CTR will be 20%-50%. The other half of the equation is traffic. Your <title> for each page should contain your keyword near or at the front, but this title is also the blue link that's shown on Google so it should be written to pull in visitors. For example, "Stainless Steel Widgets" might be a keyword-rich title, but "We have the best Stainless Steel Widgets Information and Suppliers" might pull more people. The meta-description serves the same purpose. Again, it should contain the keyword, but it's also the rest of your "ad" in the SERPS. A page with a well-written title and description can pull in more visitors than a page ranked above it in the search results. Consider what a buyer is looking for then show them (in words) that you have it. Finally, work on backlinking. I like John's article methods and have included them in a larger, more comprehensive backlinking campaign. Ranking takes time. Sites and pages move up and down in the SERPS. It takes months for this to all settle down - sometimes they won't hit their final position until weeks after you stop your active backlinking. If your pages are somewhere on page 13+ and never reach the first page (even if only for a day or two), your problem isn't with understanding "the course." You have either missed something with the keyword research or you're trying to take shortcuts with the backlinks. |
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To be honest though, I try not to worry about it. I have tried getting my pages ranked before without a great deal of success, so for the most part, I am following John's steps in his ebook. If he told me to stand on my head while I wrote my articles, I would do it! Clearly, as I gain experience, I will learn what works for me. But right now I don't have that experience, so I continue to submit to GoArticles. | |
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sink in. I just got a complaint this morning that "my methods" do not work because it's been 4 weeks and the guy's sites are not making money. No questions, no stats for me, nothing - just gave up. 4 weeks.... I had to chuckle. - John | |
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Keep in mind that I have only been doing this for about 2 weeks, so I can't really gauge results. But I don't target a keyword unless the first 5 pages in Google for that keyword are PR 3 or less. Unless I see Amazon - sometimes they have a rank of 4 or 5. But in John's original thread he said don't worry about Amazon as they are not that hard to outrank most of the time. To paraphrase, he said if you see Amazon as the top ranking page for your keyword, don't walk, but run and get started on that keyword. | |
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I got a click yesterday worth 21 cents. Not a lot, but it is money!
But I am having the darndest time trying to find out where that click come from. I can't even narrow it down to the URL - so clearly I have a lot of work to do on my tracking. Can someone point me in the right direction on the best way to track the performance of adsense ads? |
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Hey Tristan,
I set URL channels up 2 days ago, and my adsense shows a click for today, but nothing shows under the channel reports. I read that channels sometime take 1-2 days to update. Do you know if that is true, or do I just not have it setup correctly? |
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I just go to Setup >> Channels >> Add URL Channel Then I enter the domain name (so say my website address was Example Web Page I'd simply enter example.org) and submit and the following day the new channel's stats will be tracked. | |
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It is so nice to see more people are using john's method!
Guess what? During my keyword research I have run through several sites that have the similar layouts, haha, I have found some good web designing, and learned a lot from those counterpart. John, are you worried that maybe one day this method could become a red ocean?(too much competition) |
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I ask because this isn't my method, it's just common sense and how the search engines work: Websites & Unique Content (I did not invent this). - John | |
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Use URL channels in your AdSense account. In addition to this, you can integrate your Google Analytics account with your AdSense account. You need to simply add a bit of code to your sites and it tracks the exact pages, keywords, etc. This is a goldmine of statistical data which is soooo helpful.
For example, if you know that a visitor only stays on a page for x number of seconds then you know that the page may need to be tweaked etc. Its excellent, I would take advantage of it....now go and take action! Quote:
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The good thing about John's method is that it targets pretty much every niche you can think of so I doubt this method can saturate every market. The web is big enough for eveyone.
Since John is reading this thread I want to congratluate you on an excellent course. Very uncluttered method and straight to the point. |
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I came across my first clone site today. It was a bit weird.
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one thing i am discovering is that people are putting the text from John's yoga's sample about page and finding all of the xfactor sites.... mind included... I immediately changed all of my text on about page and contact page to be worded completely differently... However the search engines have not picked it up yet.
So if you dont want somebody to move in on your niche, I suggest you stop using John's sample about and contact page word for word and write your on. Im glad I learned this lesson quickly before I can get more sites up. |
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One quick question.
When writing articles on subjects unrelated to your website, doesn't Google discount the links, since the article is unrelated to the content of your website? This is like have links from other websites that are unrelated pointing to you. My understanding was that Google devalues such links. I suspect that I am wrong, since it appears to be working; but I have to ask anyways. Thanks |
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I bought the course on Sept. 15th and I have about 5 sites up now and I am working on my 6th. Have had some good days, I think my best was $6.50/day. But I have also had some $.21 & $.42 days but thats OK I know over time this will continue to get better. I wish I knew why that one day was so high???
This method works, it just takes time. I have just used article marketing, some I write myself some I outsourced on Elance for $5.00 an article. I did initially make my sites pretty close to John's formula just to get the experience behind me but I am now changing the designs around. I also need to get a little better in my keyword research, take a bit more time. Thanks Again John! |
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It seems a lot of people skipped the part where John explained why he didn't hand out the template in the ebook or the part where he was highly encouraging people to create their own template so as to make their sites undetectable. Or less detectable. Glad you caught on Dee and learned your lesson before you had 30+ sites up. | |
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Yeah, its so easy to fall in the copy trap because its easier.... the about page and the content page requests very little content. So it does not take alot to write your own original content. That's just plain lazy ( I was guilty too) but Im glad I only had one site up at the time. but it started getting traffic immediately for those looking for all of the xfactor sites.....
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I think people thought they coudl literally copy absolutely everything...lol....
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To be honest, its quite an easy thing to fall into, theres soo much going on, keywords research, design and development of templates, writing copy etc that I suppose its really something on the 'backburner'.
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I've bought John's ebook, launched 3 sites with 2 on Google's page 1 so I have to say John's technique works. I write and submit articles too but I used Angela's backlink building and that seems to help. My first site's keyword phrase is now on Google's #1.
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His system works, and this forum is the best for info!
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I also just went out in got john's Adsense book! Gotta say it works and I'm putting it use as we speak. Starting out by working on 3 niches sites a week to I get the hang of it. Also using the outsource method for articles submitted to Ezine and writing my own content for the sites to speed up the process. Looking for some great results down the road.
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Great thread and I'm glad to see people taking action.
In my book I really try to give the advice of always add your own mix, always test, always be willing to try new things. - John |
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Hi,
Don't want to get to personal but what kind of earning bracket are you hitting daily? Well done |
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OK...somebody tell me again.
Tell me that it takes time to make money with Adsense. Tell me that it may take weeks or months for Google to find all of my backlinks even on PR5+ websites. Tell me that this is a long-term business and not a short-term money making scheme. Tell me that I can't expect to make money in just 2 weeks. Tell me to quit checking where my pages rank and my website stats everyday. Tell me to create a site, submit 15 articles per keyword, and then move on to the next site. Tell me that if I am patient then all of this work will eventually make good money. Tell me why human nature wants such quick results and that most people don't make money online because they don't have the mental discipline. Tell me that the people that say they are making $5 a day in just 2 weeks is exceptional and not the norm. Tell me all of these things again because I need to hear them just one more time! Signed - A Little Discouraged When I Know I Shouldn't Be |
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The "Wow I bought this eBook and within just 2 days I was making $10 per day" posts (well, that sort of post - it feels like that sometimes ) are certainly not the norm.This isn't magic nor a get rich quick scheme, and it does take time ![]() So don't worry and just enjoy the ride ^^ | |
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aboutusnow - It has only been two weeks. Take it easy my man, these things dont happen overnight. This is a very, very solid business plan, you are on the right track. Some sites make money quicker than others, thats just the way it is.
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![]() I'm the same even though I know I shouldn't be. It's why I did a 60 day challenge, not a 30-day one. Now if only I had the self control to not check everything daily. ![]() Just keep plugging away and you'll get there. Remember the story of the tortoise and the hare. | |
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I am also developing two other business models along side - so as not to have all eggs in one basket, so to speak. The one thing I am doing differently (I think) from most of the followers of John's course, is developing my websites offline, with at least 10 pages of high quality content and the capacity to scale up each site to as many pages as required. The offline pages are fully optimised with on-page SEO for products that I think will have sustainability in the market place. So, good keyword, competition and target market research is time well worth invested. It is only then that I will launch each site and promote, which is a pain in the arse, but needs be. My sites (hopefully) will be able to be switched over to affiliate earners with minimum tweaking, if and when the big G decides to give me a slap. I feel your pain! But it is a slow burner - and once you except that and develop some other revenue streams along side it - your preoccupations with results in the short-term should subside a little.
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Plus when you do this you make the foot print that much larger which makes it that much easier for google to slap your site. Which I guess I should shut up about as it will be less competition for us that do change the template. | |
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You'll do very well. Most go into this with the mindset they won't see any significant results for at most 6 minutes and then abandon the strategy on the next WSO that comes along. But I guess that keeps the shovel sellers happy.
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