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Johnny A
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I've been doing a lot of keyword research lately.
I find good keywords that bring in a considerable amount of traffic and I build niche sites that target those keywords. Yesterday my blog got ranked 2nd for a 3 word keyword that gets approximately 40,000 searches monthly. As usual, I used google's keyword tool to check it out. Global monthly search volume: A bit over 40,000 Local Search volume september: A bit over 90,000 Checked the competition and it was slim. I jumped on it like a hungry dog. Uploaded some content and did some serious backlinking. The keyword got on the first page in no time, and it's currently ranked number 2. I estimated that I would get at LEAST 200 uniques every day from the 2nd place. But, to my amazement, I got nothing! I started to get paranoid, so I checked the keyword on other places such as market samurai. According to market samurai, the keyword gets approx 1,300 searches daily . And it also showed me that youcan expect over 500 uniques daily if you get 1st on google. The 2nd I presume (which is me), will get about the same. So yeah, according to these tools, the keyword does get a good amount of traffic. BUT... it clearly does not, because I'm there and I'm not getting any. So my questions are... Has anyone ever experienced something similar? Maybe these tools are not that accurate? I always use these tools and "usually" their data is pretty accurate. So how come that the data for this keyword is way off scale? Maybe there's a mistake? Or maybe I'm just being impatient, and maybe I'll get a lot of traffic in the upcoming days? Actually I'm impatient because usually I start to get traffic immediately after I land on the first page of google for the keyword that I target. It's been 24 hours now and I still haven't seen any traffic... Anyway, if you have any idea of what could've happened here, or if you had a similar experience, pls share. Thanks NOTE: You should know that the keyword is not seasonal. |
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If you want to check the accuracy of google's search volume for a keyword you should set up an adwords campaign. You only need to do this for 7 days and bid an amount that will get you on page 1 for that key word. The aim is not to get hits but to count the number of impressions you receive. After 1 week you should have a very good idea how many searches a particular keyword is searched in Google.
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But even if I do it and find out that the keyword doesn't bring in any traffic. I would still be perplexed by the fact that google's keyword tool and MS showed much different results :/ Thanks for the help | |
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I always set up adwords campaigns, its the only true reflection if that keyword is getting good traffic. Also another good indicator is if there are adwords on the side it means people are making sales or clicks.
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Couple of things:
- Did you use Google and have it selected as "broad"? You need to make sure that's always selected at "Exact" to see how many times it's searched. - If you're logged into your Google account and are always doing the same searches and clicking on your website, you'll start to move up because of this. Google takes your searches and websites you click on and averages them inbetween the other sites that they've ranked. - Lastly, it could be just at THAT datacenter that you've gained those rankings which is showing up on your searches. Once (if) it propagates throughtout the entire network, then you'll see the clicks/traffic. |
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I don't use Market Samurai but I'm relatively sure it just scrapes the Google Keyword Tool for keyword research, meaning your results would always be the same (just roughly divided by 30).
These tools are wrong all the time, always cross check your results with another keyword tool that gets it's data from a different source. I usually use keyworddiscovery to cross check, I think it's more accurate than the Google tool too. Quote:
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what tool is showing you your ranking? If you're doing the search yourself that could be WAY off.
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Hi IM Headlines,
I see what appears to be several problems with you data as presented. Quote:
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Of course I'm using statistical averages based on the largest publicly available dataset, you can expect significant variance on individual keywords. I have to believe that you have either misused that keyword tool or it has a very significant flaw in the formula used to calculate unique visits. | ||
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If you're using Market Samurai, what is the PBR (phrase-to-broad)? This number shows the percentage of phrase-match searches to broad-match searches. If it's a low number, the search numbers could be skewed.
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Can you tell us what the keywords are?
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Are the results "broad" or "exact"? I'm thinking you based the results on broad, which is very inaccurate.
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Personally I think arttse has got it right. I have to admit, I've not set up an adwords campaign to test this but I've read recently that this is a good indicator, better that the keyword tool most likely, and it makes perfect sense.
As a matter of fact, before I buy my next domain, I'm going to emply the adwords method. As well, from what I understand, G's keyword tool is from the month prior and I'm never 100% confident in it. Who knows, maybe G inflates those numbers to inspire more Adwords ads and Adsense sites lol. Ya never know! |
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The Google Keyword Tool's results are EXTREMELY bloated. Try the Google SK Tool. I've had it almost nail my traffic across three different sites.
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Please explain how you can make such a claim. Both tools work from the same dataset. If the data for one is inaccurate then the other has to be equally inaccurate. ![]() In my experience it is extremely rare for either tool to report inaccurate data. However, I have seen a parade of newcomers that never bother to take the time to learn how to use these tools to pull the data they seek.
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One key fact after stripping down the figures, is that as position one usually gets around 40% of the total clickthroughs, you are actually looking at less than 100 potential clicks a day.
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Johnny A
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Hey guys,
First of all thanks for the help. The broad results are at 40,000 but the exact results are still at low 5 figures. Anyway, I've beaten the first 1 now and I'm on top. I'm seeing a little traffic at 50-100 uniques daily. There's a pretty big difference between the 1st and 2nd position I must say. With this rate, the traffic will amount up to 2-3K uniques monthly which is a bit lower than I expected. Anyway, that happens with keywords I guess. At least now I'll be getting a little extra side income on automation every month. Thanks again Cheers -Johnny |
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