Who's back links can I TRUST?

[threatlevelorange]

Do any Veteran Warriors have a recommendation for honest back links that are sold?

[gravtex]

Hmm, not sure if this is what you're asking for, but Linkvana is a good source for links. It's pricey, and that just covers your monthly membership fee - links are extra. However, they pack a punch, and they're permanent.


Gary

[Brad Gosse]

We buy Angelas links (check the WSO section) at my office. My assistant KoolMeg swears by them.

[raylm123]

I also swear by Linkvana, Angela's links and Paul's links.

[FriendlyRob]

I really like, BruteForce Linking Loophole by Peter Drew, and I'm not afraid to admit it.

I got it from a WSO but I couldn't tell you how to find it.

I'm sure if you do a search you could find it pretty easily.

[Kurt]

Let me tell you a secret about links...Assuming it's a follow, if you put a link on a page you have a lot of control over the link juice of the page itself. By this, I mean you can link to the pages that link to you, to create your own link juice.

[Graham Maddison]

The Free Traffic System is a good source of backlinks....and as the name suggests, it's free

[thmgoodw]

For the actual links: Angela, PJ, Terry Kyle, Backlink Goldmine products (I think they are up to 6.0 now).

For automation: Peter Drew Brute Force Linking Loophole (comes preloaded with almost all of Angela's links for the month), Steven Hawkins SEO Backlink Builder, Fran's WSO.

Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

Do any Veteran Warriors have a recommendation for honest back links that are sold?

[eusof]

if you are looking for a tool, i think FTS & AMA is the best around as what i have researched.

Linkvana is good although her competitors are catching up on them pretty fast with way lower prices.

If you are looking for services, try mustafa kamal's WARNING! Free Traffic System Service Provider On Steroid Says: "TIME FOR YOU TO BE FIRST ON GOOGLE!"

I hope this little bit of info helps you further along the way...

[checkback]

Another vote for Angela's backlinks.

Jim

[bingitbaby]

When using back links it's hard to say who to trust because if you are not careful a search engine will see your site as spam. You can get too many backlinks too fast and they will just ban you all together.

The best way to get back links is to post articles on article sites, do link exchanges, and do some advertising on sites like adbrite (it's not that expensive).

[thmgoodw]

Originally Posted by bingitbaby

...if you are not careful a search engine will see your site as spam. You can get too many backlinks too fast and they will just ban you all together.

Says who? Your statement contradicts the experience of a great number of Warriors. Do you really think Google will blink when you get a 100+ links in a day?

[Ronald Kang]

I'm using Paul and Angela links, it's already takes time to create the backlinks.

[bingitbaby]

Originally Posted by thmgoodw

Says who? Your statement contradicts the experience of a great number of Warriors. Do you really think Google will blink when you get a 100+ links in a day?

Here is a direct quote from Google

"Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links."

Also it should be noted that if google sees too many links at one time it will ban your site.

Bing.com is also doing this. They are even more strict than google. The point is there are too many other ways to get in links to your site.

[4morereferrals]

Hundreds of others and thousands of daily backlinks PROVE your SEO advice to be false.

Theres a huge difference between links from bad neighborhoods and too many links from neighbors.

Originally Posted by bingitbaby

Here is a direct quote from Google

"Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links."

Also it should be noted that if google sees too many links at one time it will ban your site.

Bing.com is also doing this. They are even more strict than google. The point is there are too many other ways to get in links to your site.

[bingitbaby]

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Hundreds of others and thousands of daily backlinks PROVE your SEO advice to be false.

Theres a huge difference between links from bad neighborhoods and too many links from neighbors.

I was just trying to help someone here. I thought that's what we do here is help. I took a direct quote from Google yet you say it's false. I guess you know more than Google.

I was just trying to help not argue.

[l23bc]

if that was the case and here is my proof go to google and add psp go home if you hover over my sig link you will see im page one out of 44 million webpages and thats all down to link wheels social bookmarking and backlinking using paul and angelas packages and a few other warriors offers and a little outscourcing,

backlinks are natural google only flaggs sites if the site is something like a week old yet gets 11,000 sites wanting to backlink stright away but that is rare since yahoo bing and google take their time to find the whole back links, think about it is the world wide web, one site points to another then to another, so that infomation you mentioned is slighty wrong, how can they pinpoint backlinks all search engines are scripts run on its own code,

[4morereferrals]

This post from you and the Google comments you use as proof that you're right appear unrelated to me. Getting too many links to o fast and getting links from known bad neighborhoods seem quite unrelated.

Originally Posted by bingitbaby

When using back links it's hard to say who to trust because if you are not careful a search engine will see your site as spam. You can get too many backlinks too fast and they will just ban you all together.

The best way to get back links is to post articles on article sites, do link exchanges, and do some advertising on sites like adbrite (it's not that expensive).

[bingitbaby]

Originally Posted by l23bc

if that was the case and here is my proof go to google and add psp go home if you hover over my sig link you will see im page one out of 44 million webpages and thats all down to link wheels social bookmarking and backlinking using paul and angelas packages and a few other warriors offers and a little outscourcing,

backlinks are natural google only flaggs sites if the site is something like a week old yet gets 11,000 sites wanting to backlink stright away but that is rare since yahoo bing and google take their time to find the whole back links, think about it is the world wide web, one site points to another then to another, so that infomation you mentioned is slighty wrong, how can they pinpoint backlinks all search engines are scripts run on its own code,

I never said back links were bad, I said too many at one time can be bad. In my course I teach back links but to do it slower and you will be picked up within 48 hours or less. Here are a few web sites that I own that I used the course I teach...

Goto Bing.com and type in any of the keywords below

Webtalk Radio (I own the 2nd one US Web Talk Radio) it's listed #2 out of 105,000,000 (yes that's 105 million sites)

parking lessons (owned by my business partner it's listed #1 out of 15 million)

citizens speak out (owned by a person that took our course and in 7 days his site was listed #1 out of 15 million sites)

Luminous Figurines (NGT Bargains is the site listed at #6 is someone that took our course and in 5 days was listed #6)

I think that's proof enough. So I am not saying back links don't work, I am just saying that not too many at once is best.

Again just trying to help.

[4morereferrals]

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Originally Posted by bingitbaby

I never said back links were bad, I said too many at one time can be bad. In my course I teach back links but to do it slower and you will be picked up within 48 hours or less. Here are a few web sites that I own that I used the course I teach...

Goto Bing.com and type in any of the keywords below

Webtalk Radio (I own the 2nd one US Web Talk Radio) it's listed #2 out of 105,000,000 (yes that's 105 million sites)

parking lessons (owned by my business partner it's listed #1 out of 15 million)

citizens speak out (owned by a person that took our course and in 7 days his site was listed #1 out of 15 million sites)

Luminous Figurines (NGT Bargains is the site listed at #6 is someone that took our course and in 5 days was listed #6)

I think that's proof enough. So I am not saying back links don't work, I am just saying that not too many at once is best.

Again just trying to help.

[Chris Koltai]

Originally Posted by bingitbaby

Here is a direct quote from Google

"Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links."

Also it should be noted that if google sees too many links at one time it will ban your site.

Bing.com is also doing this. They are even more strict than google. The point is there are too many other ways to get in links to your site.

The wording in there is the key. Avoid links TO those neighborhoods. Google will NOT ever penalize you for links pointing to your site.

Think about it for a second. You have absolutely no control over who links to your site. If Google were to hand out penalties for that sort of thing, anyone could just set up a ring of pharmaceutical or viagra sites and link to their competitors to damage their rankings.

Google will only penalize you for things you have control over.

[bingitbaby]

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

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I see you put quotes around my keywords. Please don't put quotes on the keywords. People in most cases don't use quotes and that's where you need to be. No quotes around the keywords and take the pictures again please.

[4morereferrals]

I wish you the best of luck with your course Bing.

Originally Posted by bingitbaby

I see you put quotes around my keywords. Please don't put quotes on the keywords. People in most cases don't use quotes and that's where you need to be. No quotes around the keywords and take the pictures again please.

[evertd]

Originally Posted by bingitbaby

When using back links it's hard to say who to trust because if you are not careful a search engine will see your site as spam. You can get too many backlinks too fast and they will just ban you all together.

The best way to get back links is to post articles on article sites, do link exchanges, and do some advertising on sites like adbrite (it's not that expensive).

Tell that to whoever owns thereifixedit.com. Site created in May, yahoo reports 142k+ backlinks, and the site is PR5. Is 23,000+ links per month too many? Or exactly how many is too many?

[bingitbaby]

Here is a real picture of US Web Talk Radio...

Click Here For Pic

I would show the others but no need to that's proof enough.

But enough with this back and forth, I am here to help people and that's what I want to do. Need more proof about too many back links too fast, here is an article I just found... How to Build Backlinks

I posted the picture here too Click Here For Pic

To answer the other question, it's not by the month, it's by the day. They can tell if you have too many per day. I can't say for sure, but I am about 85% sure that Bing.com says more than 500 per day can cause suspicion.

I hope that helps. Again, I am NOT saying back links are bad, I AM saying that too many per day is bad. Be careful.

[Al Jones]

I like Angela and Paul type links. Once you get those packages it's not that hard to figure out how to get them yourself.

[goldmind123]

Originally Posted by bingitbaby

Here is a direct quote from Google

"Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links."

Also it should be noted that if google sees too many links at one time it will ban your site.

Bing.com is also doing this. They are even more strict than google. The point is there are too many other ways to get in links to your site.

Plz don't speak about a subject if you don't know what you're talking about

When people will stop doing this for God sake!!!!!

Use your common sense and you'll discover that you're posting is B.S.

If it's that easy to be penalized by incoming backlinks , what will stop people from bury their competition in the mud by excessively linking to them with bad poor quality links?

Google isn't a camp of teenagers to think like this, and these are the truths people are just keep posting B.S. about while they are confirmed by Google itself long time ago:

1-NO SUCH A THING LIKE PENALTY FOR BACKLINKS EXISTS..whatever you do with backlinks, you won't be penalized, though, some linking activities won't give you any improvement as you expect, in English, bad linking won't harm your site, however, you'll never benefit from bad linking.

2-The real penalty is for your"outcoming" links, because this is what you have control on, so by linking to questionable untrusted site, you're just shooting yourself in the foot..

3-There's nothing like the fancy of "Relevance" some people are talking about, links from any type of sites count, however, links from relevant sites means much better..

This for now, soon I'll post video proofs for these facts, till then, kindly people, don't just confuse others with misleading information

[7_8_shortcuts]

Originally Posted by thmgoodw

Says who? Your statement contradicts the experience of a great number of Warriors. Do you really think Google will blink when you get a 100+ links in a day?

I think they would blink if your site was brand new, definitely!

If your site is few months old, maybe more than 6 and already has backlinks, then Google will probably not blink.

I would always try to get a variety of backlink types though.

Articles + Hi PR profile + LinkVana + whatever.

And I would vary the anchor texts too :-)

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by thmgoodw

For the actual links: Angela, PJ, Terry Kyle, Backlink Goldmine products (I think they are up to 6.0 now).

For automation: Peter Drew Brute Force Linking Loophole (comes preloaded with almost all of Angela's links for the month), Steven Hawkins SEO Backlink Builder, Fran's WSO.

I sure love Angela, PJ, Terry, Steve's products! They work like a charm!

Automation and outsourcing are always the key to massive SEO success!

[daria19]

I'm a fan of BruteForce Linking Loophole (Angela's backlinks on autopilot)...

and I also tried a great WSO here for backlinks from blog comments

[webbyworld]

Paul and Angelas links are really good and probably they're most popular!

[cagliostro]

Originally Posted by Kurt

Let me tell you a secret about links...Assuming it's a follow, if you put a link on a page you have a lot of control over the link juice of the page itself. By this, I mean you can link to the pages that link to you, to create your own link juice.

Hi !

This sounds interesting but i don't understand it fully. Can you give is a short example ?

thanks

[sarah_may]

Links buying or selling or using paid links or involvement in any link Scheme to trick search engine is against google webmaster guidelines. It may hurt your site. Free and natural is always better and works well.

[thmgoodw]

Originally Posted by bingitbaby

I see you put quotes around my keywords. Please don't put quotes on the keywords. People in most cases don't use quotes and that's where you need to be. No quotes around the keywords and take the pictures again please.

Agreed that people don't search with quotes.

BUT, using quotes gives you an idea of what your true competition is. If there are only 18k pages using your exact quoted keyword, even if there are 100 million hits without the quotes, the competition is not that fierce.

This is Google 101 guys.

[thmgoodw]

Here's a little experiment for bingit on the difference between quotes and without quotes.

Lets take this keyword "lose weight in one week and five days".

It has 13,000,000 hits in Google with no quotes. OH MY GOD. It is so hard to rank for. I bet I could rank #1 for it in google (without quotes of course) in 60 days. $1000 bet. You in? It would probably take less than 2 weeks, but figure i'll take the cushion of 2 months.

[thewebhostingdir]

Backlinks are like oxygen for site. It should genuine. Search engine consider the number of backlinks to a page. Hence, you need to trust those sites whose PR is high.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by thmgoodw

Here's a little experiment for bingit on the difference between quotes and without quotes.

Lets take this keyword "lose weight in one week and five days".

It has 13,000,000 hits in Google with no quotes. OH MY GOD. It is so hard to rank for. I bet I could rank #1 for it in google (without quotes of course) in 60 days. $1000 bet. You in? It would probably take less than 2 weeks, but figure i'll take the cushion of 2 months.

With quote and allintitle zero result, I bet you can rank it within 7 days.

[thmgoodw]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

With quote and allintitle zero result, I bet you can rank it within 7 days.

Shush, i want the $1000.

[Kurt]

Originally Posted by cagliostro

Hi !

This sounds interesting but i don't understand it fully. Can you give is a short example ?

thanks

It's pretty simple really...If you place a link somewhere, you can also link to this page. And each link you add to the new page, the more link power that page gets. And it passes on this link power.

In other words: Build links to your main sites. Also, build links to the pages that link to your main sites. Just a couple of links to a profile page of your's can greatly enhance the link power of that profile.

Let's say you submit an article to Ezine Articles to build link juice to a page of your own. Linking to the EZ article will create more link juice for both the article as well as the page the article links to.

[threatlevelorange]

Originally Posted by thmgoodw

Here's a little experiment for bingit on the difference between quotes and without quotes.

Lets take this keyword "lose weight in one week and five days".

It has 13,000,000 hits in Google with no quotes. OH MY GOD. It is so hard to rank for. I bet I could rank #1 for it in google (without quotes of course) in 60 days. $1000 bet. You in? It would probably take less than 2 weeks, but figure i'll take the cushion of 2 months.

I bet you can do it, and what's more is I bet someone here could help me do it- too! I am willing to pay some $$$ for a blog or landing page with that kind of traffic.

[thmgoodw]

Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

I bet you can do it, and what's more is I bet someone here could help me do it- too! I am willing to pay some $$$ for a blog or landing page with that kind of traffic.

I think there is some confusion here. I wasn't talking about traffic. The traffic would probably be zero.

We were talking about search results and I was using an example of why showing that a search has millions of hits without quotes does not mean that it is a difficult keyword to rank for.

[thmgoodw]

Originally Posted by Kurt

It's pretty simple really...If you place a link somewhere, you can also link to this page. And each link you add to the new page, the more link power that page gets. And it passes on this link power.

In other words: Build links to your main sites. Also, build links to the pages that link to your main sites. Just a couple of links to a profile page of your's can greatly enhance the link power of that profile.

Let's say you submit an article to Ezine Articles to build link juice to a page of your own. Linking to the EZ article will create more link juice for both the article as well as the page the article links to.

Agreed. Personally I prefer Web 2.0 sites for this rather than article directories, but the idea is the same.

Build up a linkwheel or group of web 2.0 sites with large numbers of links themselves, and by having 1-way links to your site, you are getting the authority here.