XFactor Sites - Hall of Shame

[nettech]

Hi All,

So like a lot of people, I purchased John (XFactor's) course and I absolutely love it and have nothing but praise for John and his methods. My main issue is that every single day I come across sites that use John's methods the letter but what I'm finding more and more is that for the sake of a quick buck, the level of quality content seems to be deteriorating. I come across several sites per day that have very poorly written content which does not add value and actually breaks AdSense TOS. I mean come on guys, don’t spoil it for the rest of us. In time Google will see whats happening and may start to deindex or ban these sites.

It takes time to write quality content that does convert but I've just seen a load of hogwash which does concern me.

Anyway, I don’t use the exact template as I don’t want my site to get into trouble but just wanted to know what people's feedback was from the sites that they’ve seen on their travels.

I was about to name and shame some sites but I think I'll leave that to someone else.

Morale of the story, focus on quality content, think a little outside the box if you want to earn money and stop complaining when you don’t get the clicks.

[Black Hat Cat]

How would Google ban these sites? There's nothing new, or particularly unique about them. They're web sites just like any other. If you're using decent content, and you're following the rules, you have nothing to worry about.

[buzzpoint]

Yes, I agree with you Black Hat Cat. They are just websites just like any other. But I do see NetTech's concern, but I would say, he is getting little too much worried. If there are websites that have poor content, of course they should banned, but if you have relevant content that google is looking for, then, I don't see a problem. And if you look at the design of the websites, millions of websites have almost the same design, like left pannel, right panned, header etc...
So, point is, good content would be indexed and bad content would be deindexd.

[Fernando Veloso]

I don't know what template you're talking about BUT if it's a unique template used 90% in similar sites THEN Google can trace it and take a closer look at these sites.

Happens a lot with WP themes.

But i guess good fellows have nothing to worry about that.

[nettech]

Exactly, thats my point, the design of these sites is pretty much exactly the same BUT I've noticed a lot of sites with very poor content, this is the point Im trying to make. If people keep adding poor content then surely google will take notice.

In essence Im trying to say precisely what you are in that, even though the templates are very similar, don't spoil it by adding 'rubbish' content.

QUOTE=Black Hat Cat;1304622]How would Google ban these sites? There's nothing new, or particularly unique about them. They're web sites just like any other. If you're using decent content, and you're following the rules, you have nothing to worry about.[/QUOTE]

[Kael41]

It's not THAT tough to change up the footprints either. Color, text placement, etc.
The key to all of this is content, content, content. Utilizing a version of John's template, i'm still making a ton of money daily from it..so it's still a viable resource to use.

Again, few will take action even though many will purchase. Stay ahead of the curve and keep cranking out quality sites and doing your backlinking

[nettech]

Thanks for that,

How long have you been using the method? How long it take to kick in?

Zaheer

Originally Posted by Kael41

It's not THAT tough to change up the footprints either. Color, text placement, etc.
The key to all of this is content, content, content. Utilizing a version of John's template, i'm still making a ton of money daily from it..so it's still a viable resource to use.

Again, few will take action even though many will purchase. Stay ahead of the curve and keep cranking out quality sites and doing your backlinking

[Kael41]

Zaheer,
I've been using a variation of John's methods for many years now. I'm always on the lookout for new tempates and themes to implement to add to my arsenal. When I saw John's methods, I knew it would work just because of how long I've been doing this.

Specifically, however, using john's theme (the one i created for wordpress), i saw immediate satisfaction for income within a couple of weeks for two sites I built. I'm not shy- they're based in the bbq subject matter realm He even made reference to himself being in that area as well. Since I'm not one to let free money go to waste, i made my own sites and reaped the rewards. You can look for my postings from the summer in regards to that..i make mention of it.

David

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by nettech

Morale of the story, focus on quality content, think a little outside the box if you want to earn money and stop complaining when you don’t get the clicks.

I'm still trying to figure the entire content issue out myself.

With almost 5 years experience publishing content online, I'm still not sure what "quality content" means.

I've put up some award-winning health articles that poeple enjoy (and could literally save lives), but does not make much money.

Yet I've put up some really terrible content about coat racks that took me 5 minutes to create, and has made money ongoing each month.

- John

[waqyum]

What is Xfactor site.I heard this term for the first time.Is it a site with copied content from other bloggers.

[buzzpoint]

Originally Posted by XFactor

I'm still trying to figure the entire content issue out myself.

With almost 5 years experience publishing content online, I'm still not sure what "quality content" means.


- John

I would say the " Quality Content" would be that content that helps somebody with their problem for which they are looking for solution to resolve it,and if it is not, then it would be that content that possibly "Nettech" has mentioned in his first post.

But whatever reason it, I agree with xfactor that , we should have our own design or creation with the layout that xfactor mentioned in his course. That way everybody would win and grow, or else....

[Carlton Johnson]

Originally Posted by waqyum

What is Xfactor site.I heard this term for the first time.Is it a site with copied content from other bloggers.

Hi Waqyum

I think what is being referred to is a site made using the methods and perhaps even the template that is used or taught by Xfactor (who is the member that posted just above you) Xfactor had an extremely popular thread about making money on adsense and then went on to sell an equally popular course on the topic.

Someone correct me if I am off base...

I think this is the thread that I have posted below:

6 Months Later: $300 Daily w/Adsense (Lessons Learned)

[Fraggler]

Originally Posted by nettech

I mean come on guys, don’t spoil it for the rest of us. In time Google will see whats happening and may start to deindex or ban these sites.

The method that XFactor has taught is not a new method. People have been doing it for years so don't worry about a fresh influx from 1 course is going to tip the scales. It is probably more of a case you are now on the lookout for such sites.

As for Google banning these sites, well they already do it. If your content is not original nor decent quality then you risk getting your Adsense account banned as it breaks the TOS. If you come across such a site then you should just mimic the site but with better quality and better backlinks - it should be an easy target.

[WareTime]

Originally Posted by Fraggler

it should be an easy target.

Your also trusting that a person that puts almost no work into building their site put work into the keyword analysis. Like Reagan said. Trust, but verify.

[I-Man]

nettech,
Can you give examples of "poor quality" -- what do you consider poor quality

[vencedor08]

Guys, What matters is to see results, and that is what I have seen with my XFactor websites even that I don't have the best content but I like to put action.

[Solidsnake]

I don't think similar templates would be a problem is the contents are totally different..

[7_8_shortcuts]

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

How would Google ban these sites? There's nothing new, or particularly unique about them. They're web sites just like any other. If you're using decent content, and you're following the rules, you have nothing to worry about.

I agree too, however...

too many sites using the exact same template can get a bit suspicious. If Google wants, they could start tracking similar sites down

BUT

if your site has decent content, they can never ban you or anything, just because some smart-ass has used the exact same template to put up a junk content site.

[nettech]

I don't really want to embrass people here but what I'm referring to is content that just doesn't make sense when you read it. I know everyone wants to make money but at least have a think about your target market and not just stuff it with keywords. My thread was really targetted towards newbies and really to educate them to think a little outside the box.

I agree with most of the people who have been around and said that templates should be changed etc, thats the exact point Im trying to make.

I'm actually quite intrigued to read John's post about good and bad content. Im assuming it was still relevant though John?

Originally Posted by I-Man

nettech,
Can you give examples of "poor quality" -- what do you consider poor quality

[I-Man]

nettech - I hear you - I have seen some sites using xfactors templates with content that looks like poorly spun plr articles jammed with synonyms that amount to nothing more than jibberish. - Total Garbage!!!

As far as the templates - I agree - with some people mass producing this type of crap - I think the best thing to do for those who want to do it right is to create "your" own design which is by no means difficult. Just a little creativity.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by nettech

I'm actually quite intrigued to read John's post about good and bad content. Im assuming it was still relevant though John?

Oh yeah, most definately!

Of course, I'm finding out that a person's definition of "quality" is relative.

For me, "bad content" is facts and figures thrown up about a product in record time.

However...

The content is always original, always accurate, and never spun, twisted or spammed.

I'm not sure why so many people are using crap text to fill the void of words needed to make a publishing business work.

If people do not want to spend time writing good content, then why get involved at all?

Those types of sites will never last. I know - I've created them by the thousands in the beginning of my career.

- John

[latinoman231982]

Nettech

I have seen this thread up for quite a while, and the more i see threads like this the more i get mad.

What Im about to say next nettech is not being said to deliberately piss you off, but just my honest opinion.

For one other peoples sites shouldnt concern you in your endevour to create and sustain a business. This is a business not a family get together. Why does it concern you about the quality of other peoples sites??

I sense you have made this thread out of fear of being punished for all those adsense sites following johns concepts which in your opinion lack quality. Let google deal with them. It is not your concern to try and take control of the masses, it's someone elses.

My second point is directly aimed at you. Ive been following johns course and I am having my own success which continues to grow day by day. I will be the first to admit the quality of my writing isn't up to scratch compared to other publishers, but as english is my second language, im trying.

Yes, alot of people know fine well what they are doing...but others are in the learning process, and you posting this thread, titled hall of shame is just encouraging members of this forum to post site addresses of those which are not up to par.

"I was about to name and shame some sites but I think I'll leave that to someone else." is what you stated right?

I believe in healthy competition, but if i were what you would call an "asshole" I would see the title of this thread, read your first post and list all the xfactor sites I have come across on my travels.

Maybe one of those might be yours...or maybe johns...who knows.

Regards robert

[nettech]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your reply, its a great post. Don't worry you havent pissed me off at all, quite the contrary. Firstly, I'm not actually concerned about other people's sites at all in the respect that they will hurt mine. I think people are taking this thread in the wrong way. The reason for this thread was really as a reminder to newbies who may assume that making money with adsense is all about whacking up some crappy pages and thats it.

Yes the title does stick out and in a way Im glad that people have taken notice but its just to remind people that its all about quality, I think me trying to be nice has probably backfired somewhat but the intention of this thread was NEVER to actually post up any URLs, only to make people aware that threre are sites that are low quality that exist.

What I was trying to get at was the point of trying to help yourself for the long-run thats all.

Like yourself I'm also having success but Ive been involved in AdSense for a while however so in a way this post was really a bit of education I guess.

Also, I think people are way to smart to start actually posting urls here and I wouldn't actually encourage it.

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Nettech

I have seen this thread up for quite a while, and the more i see threads like this the more i get mad.

What Im about to say next nettech is not being said to deliberately piss you off, but just my honest opinion.

For one other peoples sites shouldnt concern you in your endevour to create and sustain a business. This is a business not a family get together. Why does it concern you about the quality of other peoples sites??

I sense you have made this thread out of fear of being punished for all those adsense sites following johns concepts which in your opinion lack quality. Let google deal with them. It is not your concern to try and take control of the masses, it's someone elses.

My second point is directly aimed at you. Ive been following johns course and I am having my own success which continues to grow day by day. I will be the first to admit the quality of my writing isn't up to scratch compared to other publishers, but as english is my second language, im trying.

Yes, alot of people know fine well what they are doing...but others are in the learning process, and you posting this thread, titled hall of shame is just encouraging members of this forum to post site addresses of those which are not up to par.

"I was about to name and shame some sites but I think I'll leave that to someone else." is what you stated right?

I believe in healthy competition, but if i were what you would call an "asshole" I would see the title of this thread, read your first post and list all the xfactor sites I have come across on my travels.

Maybe one of those might be yours...or maybe johns...who knows.

Regards robert

[7_8_shortcuts]

I also think that in reality it's not a big problem if people start putting up crap sites.

I mean... it's their sites, not mine.

If they are crap and the content is garbage... Google will (hopefully) deal with these appropriately.

But I agree that they might "confuse" some Xfactor fans when they come across these sites initially, but I think in the long run these garbage-type sites will take care of themselves... somewhere way back in the SERPs :-)