Google adwords sucks

networkandy · 10-22-2009, 08:46 PM

Why pay for google when you can ge traffic for free and I dont mean social media.

There are other ways of getting free traffic

Sleaklight · 10-22-2009, 09:27 PM

Because free traffic isn't as easy to get than google adwords traffic.

Sancho Sanches · 10-22-2009, 10:02 PM

It has been the experience of some that PPC traffic converts better.

It's great to get high organic rankings but they don't usually come easy.

PPC is a fast way to get in it is my perception that those who are good at it practically don't bother with SEO.

PPC is just too easy to get traffic once you know what you're doing and have winners

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dburk · 10-22-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by networkandy

Why pay for google when you can ge traffic for free and I dont mean social media.

There are other ways of getting free traffic

Why turn down huge profits? I can pick 2000 different keywords and be on the first page of Google for every one of them today. Do you have a method that can compete with that kind of instant, highly targeted and profitable traffic?

Sancho Sanches · 10-22-2009, 10:17 PM

I agree, statements like that come from people who don't have the experience to know what they're talking about.

It's almost as if they can't/won't do PPC for some reason and so they want to believe that free traffic is all around better because they want it to be so.

When a PPC campaign works, it's awesome.

askloz · 10-23-2009, 09:27 AM

That really depends on who are you mate. heaps of info here to get that free traffic.

I sent over 1,000 visitors to my site in less than 3 days for my forex signal mentor site i just launched with 47% visitor loyalty rate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleaklight

Because free traffic isn't as easy to get than google adwords traffic.

Desmond Ong · 10-23-2009, 12:58 PM

In my opinion, PPC is the best form of traffic because it can literally change your business' fate overnight and it enables to quickly test a market out literally in just days. (Articles take weeks and SEO takes even longer some times)

PPC also allows geo-targeting, which is another great plus.

Most successful internet marketers (who are making millions) know how to game PPC, and I don't think it's fair to say PPC sucks.

Okay fine. Maybe Google Slap sucks, but if you obey the rules, you should be fine.

TimScott · 10-23-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Desmond Ong

In my opinion, PPC is the best form of traffic because it can literally change your business' fate overnight and it enables to quickly test a market out literally in just days. (Articles take weeks and SEO takes even longer some times)

PPC also allows geo-targeting, which is another great plus.

Most successful internet marketers (who are making millions) know how to game PPC, and I don't think it's fair to say PPC sucks.

Okay fine. Maybe Google Slap sucks, but if you obey the rules, you should be fine.

I agree, PPC is the way to go if you want to see tremendous results quickly. But overall a mix of PPC and SEO is the big daddy of marketing strategies. You conquer both worlds and depending on your market, you can easily get in the 8 figures for sales.

G Singh · 10-23-2009, 08:30 PM

I actually don't see the problem of doing both. If you do both then if one fails you've not lost all your traffic. But getting them spot on is the thing.

Ilya Feynberg · 10-23-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmond Ong

In my opinion, PPC is the best form of traffic because it can literally change your business' fate overnight and it enables to quickly test a market out literally in just days. (Articles take weeks and SEO takes even longer some times)

PPC also allows geo-targeting, which is another great plus.

Most successful internet marketers (who are making millions) know how to game PPC, and I don't think it's fair to say PPC sucks.

Okay fine. Maybe Google Slap sucks, but if you obey the rules, you should be fine.

I do agree with everything that has been said to back PPC up, heck my business depends on paid traffic and not the free organic kind. But I wouldn't say that if you just follow the rules than you will ok. A lot of times, and sadly, even if you're following the rules your ads can be gone overnight for reasons that are most of the time not even disclosed to you, or worse you just get caught in googles attempt to limit a certain niche or trying to do away with affiliate marketers all together.

Desmond Ong · 10-23-2009, 11:25 PM

We are currently doing testing for 3 types of traffic generation methods (bum marketing, SEO and PPC) and so far, PPC and bum marketing has impress us with the awesome ROI.

@mrdunn123 - yeah true. Sometimes Google is mean though.

7_8_shortcuts · 10-24-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by networkandy

Why pay for google when you can ge traffic for free and I dont mean social media.

There are other ways of getting free traffic

Well, no traffic is really "free" anyway.

Is your time writing articles and such worth nothing?

PPC is pretty difficult to master at first, but it is quick and efficient.

I would do a combination of traffic strategies.

Brittany Lynch · 10-24-2009, 07:42 AM

Thats silly – I used to work at Google in The AdWords department, now I work for myself and I spend hundreds of dolars on advertising each day. if you are driving traffic to your site with the idea of making money from this traffic then ADWORDS can be very beneficial. I'm not saying its better than free traffic, I'm not saying its worse either. If you know your numbers and do things properly than you will know that adwords can supercharge the amount of money you make.

The key is to actually research the form of traffic tool you are going to use i.e it WOULD be a bad idea to invest money in PPC before taking the time to learn how to use it correctly.

A few rules I live by when using PPC
1) make sure that you install google analytics on the site you are driving traffic too
2) Use conversion tracking, analytic goals or both to monitor which keywords drive high quality traffic. ELIMINATE the non converting keywords
3) 1 keyword, 1 ad. Its very simple - google rewards relevancy and if you use one keyword per ad you will get higher click through rate, better quality score and cheaper cost per click.
4) Continually optimize your campaign. Optimize to increase CTR, optimize to increase ROI!
Making AdWords profitable IS possible … just put in the work.

10-22-2009, 08:46 PM	#1
networkandy Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Google adwords sucks Why pay for google when you can ge traffic for free and I dont mean social media. There are other ways of getting free traffic

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Sleaklight Give To Charity War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,068 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 62 Thanked 129 Times in 100 Posts Contact Info	Re: Google adwords sucks Because free traffic isn't as easy to get than google adwords traffic.
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Sancho Sanches HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In my body Posts: 132 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Google adwords sucks It has been the experience of some that PPC traffic converts better. It's great to get high organic rankings but they don't usually come easy. PPC is a fast way to get in it is my perception that those who are good at it practically don't bother with SEO. PPC is just too easy to get traffic once you know what you're doing and have winners ...

10-22-2009, 10:17 PM	#5
Sancho Sanches HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In my body Posts: 132 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Google adwords sucks I agree, statements like that come from people who don't have the experience to know what they're talking about. It's almost as if they can't/won't do PPC for some reason and so they want to believe that free traffic is all around better because they want it to be so. When a PPC campaign works, it's awesome.

10-23-2009, 12:58 PM	#7
Desmond Ong Caffeinated Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nebraska Posts: 826 Thanks: 124 Thanked 75 Times in 49 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Google adwords sucks In my opinion, PPC is the best form of traffic because it can literally change your business' fate overnight and it enables to quickly test a market out literally in just days. (Articles take weeks and SEO takes even longer some times) PPC also allows geo-targeting, which is another great plus. Most successful internet marketers (who are making millions) know how to game PPC, and I don't think it's fair to say PPC sucks. Okay fine. Maybe Google Slap sucks, but if you obey the rules, you should be fine.
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10-23-2009, 08:30 PM	#9
G Singh Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 915 Thanks: 157 Thanked 78 Times in 66 Posts	Re: Google adwords sucks I actually don't see the problem of doing both. If you do both then if one fails you've not lost all your traffic. But getting them spot on is the thing.

10-23-2009, 11:25 PM	#11
Desmond Ong Caffeinated Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nebraska Posts: 826 Thanks: 124 Thanked 75 Times in 49 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Google adwords sucks We are currently doing testing for 3 types of traffic generation methods (bum marketing, SEO and PPC) and so far, PPC and bum marketing has impress us with the awesome ROI. @mrdunn123 - yeah true. Sometimes Google is mean though.
	EPIC AWESOMENESS ==> My Blog. Duh.

10-24-2009, 07:42 AM	#13
Brittany Lynch Brittany Lynch -ExGoogler War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 342 Thanks: 65 Thanked 53 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Google adwords sucks Thats silly – I used to work at Google in The AdWords department, now I work for myself and I spend hundreds of dolars on advertising each day. if you are driving traffic to your site with the idea of making money from this traffic then ADWORDS can be very beneficial. I'm not saying its better than free traffic, I'm not saying its worse either. If you know your numbers and do things properly than you will know that adwords can supercharge the amount of money you make. The key is to actually research the form of traffic tool you are going to use i.e it WOULD be a bad idea to invest money in PPC before taking the time to learn how to use it correctly. A few rules I live by when using PPC 1) make sure that you install google analytics on the site you are driving traffic too 2) Use conversion tracking, analytic goals or both to monitor which keywords drive high quality traffic. ELIMINATE the non converting keywords 3) 1 keyword, 1 ad. Its very simple - google rewards relevancy and if you use one keyword per ad you will get higher click through rate, better quality score and cheaper cost per click. 4) Continually optimize your campaign. Optimize to increase CTR, optimize to increase ROI! Making AdWords profitable IS possible … just put in the work.