Angela's Links Still Working Well For Everyone?

[jasonmorgan]

If you remember, I HAD to drop those methods because if a comment was required, folks would spam the heck out of the sites and that would ruin the sites for everyone. That's why those types were removed from current and upcoming packets.

I know and it's unfortunate that it had to be that way. The abuse of a few ruined the resource for all.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards

If you remember, I HAD to drop those methods because if a comment was required, folks would spam the heck out of the sites and that would ruin the sites for everyone. That's why those types were removed from current and upcoming packets.

Originally Posted by jasonmorgan

I know and it's unfortunate that it had to be that way. The abuse of a few ruined the resource for all.

Just too bad many people will use it wrongly and spam the *** out of all good resources...

That's why I don't like half boil spammer... The Pro would "spam" better

[AnilK]

I subscribed to these links on 24 October, so have the October and November links. Will take time to see the results but will test them with 1 of my Uk focused sites that is set up and is not being promoted with any other method. In fact it hasn't even been indexed yet! Will let you know how it gets on.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by aakayb

I subscribed to these links on 24 October, so have the October and November links. Will take time to see the results but will test them with 1 of my Uk focused sites that is set up and is not being promoted with any other method. In fact it hasn't even been indexed yet! Will let you know how it gets on.

Try it with low competition keywords first, gain experience and expand from there!

[captivereef]

article came back last night!!

[matts5150]

Does anyone know if profile links pass a manual inspection from google? I've recently applied for a reinclusion request after getting bumped to page 40 in August. Google replied and said they had reviewed my site however still no love, on google for my main keyword I'm on page 35 and on sandbox I'm on page 1. Other than ezine articles, profile linking was all I was doing with only 1 link per profile. Site is 2 years old and we sell physical products, Any ideas?

[Fraggler]

You aren't excluded from the index though, you said yourself you are on page 35. Google just doesn't think your site is the best one for the respective keyword.

[webpromoterservice]

angela and pauls packets do really help to boost a sites ranking,but one negative aspect is that some of the sites will remove your links and your site will drop a few places in the search engine result pages.

I have seen it happen a few times.

Search for the username in google, you used to create the accounts when posting your links and you will see that some of the sites have removed your links.

[cagliostro]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Some people might freak out and start optimizing their content, that is a big NO NO!! Google will black-list your page and it will be "sandbox" for a long long time...

Why is that ? Can you pls explain a bit more ?

thanks !

[vekro]

yes these links still effective i use a package and it was very beneficial

[Edge88]

Originally Posted by webpromoterservice

angela and pauls packets do really help to boost a sites ranking,but one negative aspect is that some of the sites will remove your links and your site will drop a few places in the search engine result pages.

I have seen it happen a few times.

Search for the username in google, you used to create the accounts when posting your links and you will see that some of the sites have removed your links.

Woah, after days of fretting over whether my profile pages were being indexed or not (backlinks not showing in backlink watch or SEO4FFX) I googled the username I had used and google had indexed ALL of them... I was excitede to see that all of my profiles were indexed, but the backlinks still aren't showing and my page has not been moving... not even in the top 100 positions for my keyword (not that competitive and I built well over 250 backlinks to it)

[bigcat1967]

I just worry about the links getting indexed - it will take a while. I've been trying to get my web 2.0 properties indexed by using pinging sites - still not working.

You gotta get links indexed first - then carry on...

[mrizos]

Originally Posted by Edge88

Woah, after days of fretting over whether my profile pages were being indexed or not (backlinks not showing in backlink watch or SEO4FFX) I googled the username I had used and google had indexed ALL of them... I was excitede to see that all of my profiles were indexed, but the backlinks still aren't showing and my page has not been moving... not even in the top 100 positions for my keyword (not that competitive and I built well over 250 backlinks to it)

Wow...I just googled my username + forum and found over 1000 of my profiles indexed yet when I use something like yahoo site explorer I only see 1 (yep, just 1) profile backlink with anchor text...annoying

I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.

[Edge88]

Originally Posted by Edge88

Woah, after days of fretting over whether my profile pages were being indexed or not (backlinks not showing in backlink watch or SEO4FFX) I googled the username I had used and google had indexed ALL of them... I was excitede to see that all of my profiles were indexed, but the backlinks still aren't showing and my page has not been moving... not even in the top 100 positions for my keyword (not that competitive and I built well over 250 backlinks to it)

Originally Posted by mrizos

Wow...I just googled my username + forum and found over 1000 of my profiles indexed yet when I use something like yahoo site explorer I only see 1 (yep, just 1) profile backlink with anchor text...annoying

I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.

I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.[/QUOTE]

So I'm guessing just getting the profile indexed still doesn't guarantee the backlinks on it will be picked up.

Anyone has any idea whether that's the case or do we jut have to wait a little bit?? mrizos above me says it's been 2 months, with 1000 profiles indexed, why aren't they showing as backlinks?

Thanks for any replies

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by mrizos

Wow...I just googled my username + forum and found over 1000 of my profiles indexed yet when I use something like yahoo site explorer I only see 1 (yep, just 1) profile backlink with anchor text...annoying

I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.

Just because you don't see them in the tools you use doesn't mean that google isn't seeing them. Keep that in mind. these things take time and most all the tools out there will never show you all your links.

[jasonmorgan]

I've recently applied for a reinclusion request after getting bumped to page 40 in August.

Bad idea.

You haven't been banned. You are on page 40 because your site SEO is weak.

I would never apply for reinclusion unless my site was absolutely banned and could not be found and then only if the site was completely white hat.

A manual review of your site is going to show that you are link spamming and I wouldn't expect google to care or do much about it.

I've had sites drop down to the 900's and then bounce back to the top 10 a month later. It's all a part of the game.

[captivereef]

all my sites rankings came back as well, so i guess i got scared for nothing.

[jasonmorgan]

If you are going the SEO route, it a marathon not a sprint.

[happyhill]

Originally Posted by mrizos

Wow...I just googled my username + forum and found over 1000 of my profiles indexed yet when I use something like yahoo site explorer I only see 1 (yep, just 1) profile backlink with anchor text...annoying

I've only been doing this for 2 months, so I suppose it takes awhile.

hope can get help with your answer, as I work on the profile link but the ranking doesnt see improve, I just realized that when I check back the profile backlink, many of them are not indexed...

Just talk about Sept backlinks, it has already 2 months but many of them are not indexed...

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by webpromoterservice

angela and pauls packets do really help to boost a sites ranking,but one negative aspect is that some of the sites will remove your links and your site will drop a few places in the search engine result pages.

I have seen it happen a few times.

Search for the username in google, you used to create the accounts when posting your links and you will see that some of the sites have removed your links.

Very true, that shouldn't stop anyone from building more links, you just need volume to counter this kind of problems !

Originally Posted by cagliostro

Why is that ? Can you pls explain a bit more ?

thanks !

If during Google dance period, you can try to optimize your on page factor for that keyword, make it bold or add more keywords (keyword stuffing) to your content... Guarantee get into trouble, your article will dropped longer than usual!

When Google dance, I either continue to build more links or just move on and do other more productive stuff than waiting.

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by happyhill

hope can get help with your answer, as I work on the profile link but the ranking doesnt see improve, I just realized that when I check back the profile backlink, many of them are not indexed...

Just talk about Sept backlinks, it has already 2 months but many of them are not indexed...

Use rss feeds to get them indexed.. Get a list of your viewable public profile pages with your links on. Goto ice rocket and signup for a free account then create a new rss channel -> open the channel then add all of your profile links as new 'items'

Once you have added them all, click the publish link and copy the published url feed..

Take the feed and submit it to feedagg / feedage / syndic8 / millionrss and yahoo feeds..

You will see your links indexed very quickly after this.

Steve

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

Use rss feeds to get them indexed.. Get a list of your viewable public profile pages with your links on. Goto ice rocket and signup for a free account then create a new rss channel -> open the channel then add all of your profile links as new 'items'

Once you have added them all, click the publish link and copy the published url feed..

Take the feed and submit it to feedagg / feedage / syndic8 / millionrss and yahoo feeds..

You will see your links indexed very quickly after this.

Steve

Hey Steve, how are you doing? Great suggestion by the way!

May be you will build in this feature in your SEO Link Dominator? I would love to see that

Kok Choon

[happyhill]

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

Use rss feeds to get them indexed.. Get a list of your viewable public profile pages with your links on. Goto ice rocket and signup for a free account then create a new rss channel -> open the channel then add all of your profile links as new 'items'

Once you have added them all, click the publish link and copy the published url feed..

Take the feed and submit it to feedagg / feedage / syndic8 / millionrss and yahoo feeds..

You will see your links indexed very quickly after this.

Steve

Hi Steve, nice hearing you and thank you so much for your suggestion.

I am now working on it, but I get stuck during create a new rss channel, one of the required field name: Channel Link, what should I suppose to do on this...? can I url it to my page in squidoo.com ?

at the add new item section, I just put any title and summary, as simple as I can, is this part important, will it cause any issue...?

finally, after publish my feed, can I directly submit my feed by skip the step to adding a xml button to my page?

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by happyhill

Hi Steve, nice hearing you and thank you so much for your suggestion.

I am now working on it, but I get stuck during create a new rss channel, one of the required field name: Channel Link, what should I suppose to do on this...? can I url it to my page in squidoo.com ?

at the add new item section, I just put any title and summary, as simple as I can, is this part important, will it cause any issue...?

finally, after publish my feed, can I directly submit my feed by skip the step to adding a xml button to my page?

Or may be a simpler approach, but you won't benefit extra backlinks from RSS - Ping it!

Download SENuke, they had a free pinger there, collect all your profile links, put it in the pinger and ping it!

That way your profile links should be able to make it into the index.

BTW, how many links did you build? I am very surprise to see no profile index! Because some profile would get pickup by the search engine just in time before it submerge!

[Pat Jackson]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Download SENuke, they had a free pinger there, collect all your profile links, put it in the pinger and ping it!

Do you know of a free alternative to what you're describing?

[tjcocker]

Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

Do you know of a free alternative to what you're describing?

Pingler dot com. I do it to all my profiles after making backlinks and they get indexed and show up within a few weeks. It's free.

[Pat Jackson]

I'm not talking about a normal ping tool like Pingler or Pingomatic.

I'm referring to something where you can enter multiple url's and have them all pinged at the one time.

For example, if I create 50 profiles I could enter the 50 url's in and they would all get pinged, as opposed to having to individually ping each url in Pingler.

[happyhill]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Or may be a simpler approach, but you won't benefit extra backlinks from RSS - Ping it!

Download SENuke, they had a free pinger there, collect all your profile links, put it in the pinger and ping it!

That way your profile links should be able to make it into the index.

BTW, how many links did you build? I am very surprise to see no profile index! Because some profile would get pickup by the search engine just in time before it submerge!

Hi Kok Choon, thank you so much for your advise.
did you mean I should use ping instead just submit my rss?
let say for another way, without create rss, can I use the ping to ping directly to my profile url, will it work to get the profile indexed?

I started build my backlink since month of May, I order profile link from Paul and Angela, I am sure many links I have did from there, but for Aug and Sept untill recent many of them not get indexed, even some of them are from May too... those profile that are not indexed are healthy profile and they are dofollow links.

[tjcocker]

Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

I'm not talking about a normal ping tool like Pingler or Pingomatic.

I'm referring to something where you can enter multiple url's and have them all pinged at the one time.

For example, if I create 50 profiles I could enter the 50 url's in and they would all get pinged, as opposed to having to individually ping each url in Pingler.

Ahh, uh no help here, sorry. I just ping after I make each one, but I type and click fast... all those years playing computer games helped.

If you're going to copy and paste onto a list, why not just copy and paste it into pingler, or whichever, and do it right then and there? Sometimes I have multiple tabs open, it's pretty fast. Unless your connection is slow, that might make a difference. I'm just curious if there's another reason.

[sherry_d]

Originally Posted by jasonmorgan

If you are going the SEO route, it a marathon not a sprint.

Totally Agree

[JRG]

I see that the backlinks are mostly used by members for articles. Are many people using them for main sites? Like a company site etc...

Also is anyone worried that Google may eventually ban this and ban all the sites you linked this way?

Signed up for the packets a while ago and need to catch up on them but always been a concern for me.

[tjcocker]

Originally Posted by JR Griggs

Also is anyone worried that Google may eventually ban this and ban all the sites you linked this way?

How would Google be able to tell the difference between a link on a profile created for ones own site, and a link on a profile created because you really really love some other website? Both appear organic.

At the most they might just devalue those links to nothing, not ban all sites with links from profiles. I could be wrong and I can't assume to speak for G.

[fir3d]

Originally Posted by tjcocker

How would Google be able to tell the difference between a link on a profile created for ones own site, and a link on a profile created because you really really love some other website? Both appear organic.

At the most they might just devalue those links to nothing, not ban all sites with links from profiles. I could be wrong and I can't assume to speak for G.

you are right, google can never ban all sites with links from profiles otherwise i would setup profiles with links to wikipedia all over them

[jasonmorgan]

you are right, google can never ban all sites with links from profiles otherwise i would setup profiles with links to wikipedia all over them

True,

but what if they changed their algorithm so that pages that were ranked PR n/a had no link value... that would eliminate profile spam and not effect legitimate linking.

That would be a very simple solution that google could implement in a day. They are aware of what is going on and I'm sure they are looking into solutions.

For now, profile backlinking does work but if that is your only backlinking strategy your building a house of cards.

[tjcocker]

Originally Posted by jasonmorgan

True,

but what if they changed their algorithm so that pages that were ranked PR n/a had no link value... that would eliminate profile spam and not effect legitimate linking.

That would be a very simple solution that google could implement in a day. They are aware of what is going on and I'm sure they are looking into solutions.

For now, profile backlinking does work but if that is your only backlinking strategy your building a house of cards.

Indeed. A shaky house of cards built on top of another house of cards. Adsense, Google, and IM are all one big uncontrollable monster that has candy for us if we know how to take it. Scary. I peed myself a little.

Care to share your backlinking strategies beyond articles, directories, blog commmenting, and profile links? I'd appreciate some tips!

[jasonmorgan]

Care to share your backlinking strategies beyond articles, directories, blog commmenting, and profile links? I'd appreciate some tips!

Sure.

First off, I'm not an article writer. I build websites and I target medium to high traffic keywords.

I don't use articles and rarely use directories.

*I use your articles to fluff out my support sites (more on those later)

blogs, profiles and forums. I use all of these through different methods to build backlinks. I follow some of what is mentioned here at WF and I have a few other tricks and methods I use as well.

I've given away some of my tricks in various posts here and some things I am keeping to myself so they aren't exploited and lose their value.

The biggest difference between what I do and what many others don't do is building my own support sites. I've put a lot of time into developing my own little network of sites that I can use for backlinking.

These site generally have little to no traffic, aren't set up to sell anything and typically look very innocent at first glance... just some some average joe schmoes blog. These site age, I throw backlinks at them from time to time, they generate low PR and exist only to support my money sites as backlink sources.

With the number of free hosting and blog options available you can build a network of hundreds of these sites at no cost other than time spent.

Having a little army of PR 1 -2 sites can give a nice little boost to any project you are working on and they are 100% white hat spam free backlinks that you'll never lose and nobody can mess with.

This same technique is used by many top IMers, SEO's and corporations to boost up their own sites. Major companies aren't spamming blogs and profiles for backlinks, they buy 100 or 1,000 .com's and set up little sites just for the purpose of driving backlinks and link juice to their own sites. A $1,000 or $10,000 marketing investment isn't much if you stand to gain $10,000 or $100,000 from it.

Now, somebody is going to cry that it's too much work, they don't have the time or it's not worth the effort. That's fine, each to their own. I just don't feel that relying on other sites and spamming as your only means of backlinks is a very smart, safe or wise long-term strategy. Sure, it works great now, I'll drop more profile links later tonight along with a few blog and forum comments as well, but my sites don't rely on these methods alone.

Diversity, that more or less sums it all up

*this was my mini WSO.. that'll be $10 please.

[4morereferrals]

Sounds like you experienced QDF benefits early on then you dropped back down to your rightful place in the index. You will need to add more.

Also if you slowed up on the number of links you had been placing - that can have an effect.

Hard to know without some more specifics.

Fresh new content getting backlinks gets an early artificial boost in the serps ... then things settle in after a couple weeks.

Originally Posted by captivereef

I just had an article that was written in August and backlinked with nothing but these links de indexed.

I made another sales page and used specific product names and and got to the #3 and #6 spot using these links then two days ago poof i was slapped back to page 9.

I had been back linking since June and making full profiles using only one or two links per site and writing a 200 word or longer bio

Coincidence who knows for sure.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by jasonmorgan

Sure.

With the number of free hosting and blog options available you can build a network of hundreds of these sites at no cost other than time spent.

Having a little army of PR 1 -2 sites can give a nice little boost to any project you are working on and they are 100% white hat spam free backlinks that you'll never lose and nobody can mess with.

You think long term! Scale this up and you get tons of controllable backlinks, that's how advance SEO marketer like you would prefer !

May be you can try auto-blogging, use automated linking and content to build up the network, and get links anytime, on demand!

Kok Choon

[SEO4Life]

These links work very well. I have many sites that hold spots on the 1st page just from these sort of links.

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Hey Steve, how are you doing? Great suggestion by the way!

May be you will build in this feature in your SEO Link Dominator? I would love to see that

Kok Choon

Hi Kok,

I'm good... quite busy with the 64 bit testing but it's going very well.

On the rss feed creation, is already built into 'seo link dominator' (it auto creates the rss channels and profile items off your saved profile links) except for the submissions to the rss directories.. .. but this will be included in the software within one of the next updates.. should will be available within i'd say the next 3-4 weeks.

Steve

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by happyhill

Hi Kok Choon, thank you so much for your advise.
did you mean I should use ping instead just submit my rss?
let say for another way, without create rss, can I use the ping to ping directly to my profile url, will it work to get the profile indexed?

I started build my backlink since month of May, I order profile link from Paul and Angela, I am sure many links I have did from there, but for Aug and Sept untill recent many of them not get indexed, even some of them are from May too... those profile that are not indexed are healthy profile and they are dofollow links.

As kok mentioned.. pinging will get the profile pages noticed by the search engines as well, so should get them indexed.

the reason I create the rss feeds is to syndicate the profile links out to multiple sources.. I may be wrong but i found in my testing that this gets a quicker indexing than pinging and the profile links also end up syndicated to more places..

Steve

[tjcocker]

Originally Posted by jasonmorgan

*this was my mini WSO.. that'll be $10 please.

How about a 'thanks'?

Thanks, that gives me some things to think about. I suppose if it doesn't look like a blog farm it would work great. Kind of a fine line if someone doesn't know what they're doing.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

As kok mentioned.. pinging will get the profile pages noticed by the search engines as well, so should get them indexed.

the reason I create the rss feeds is to syndicate the profile links out to multiple sources.. I may be wrong but i found in my testing that this gets a quicker indexing than pinging and the profile links also end up syndicated to more places..

Steve

Hi Steve, you are constantly improving your software, that's great! We all can benefit from the automation, and I believe you'll have more to come !

Originally Posted by michaelpedro

I will share my experience before 2 weeks I built backlinks for one of my sites using angela's backlinks. As of today no changes in SERPS and no one link is indexed when i look in yahoo site explorer. I created 30 backlinks. I don't say that it is not worth probably just need some more time for google to crawl my backlinks.

2 weeks is too early to tell, please allow at least 3 weeks for testing. You need to track your ranking, not yahoo explorer. I find it more accurate to check with my keyword ranking, if it raise, the backlinks is working !

[dagama]

Hi,

I am a very new user of Angela's links, and I am not sure I quite understand what I am reading here. Could anyone with 5 minutes to spare confirm that I should:

1 Create the link.
2 Click on my profile page, grab that page address, and then submit it to something like pingler.com
3 I am also not clear on how the RSS issue works; without wishing to waste anyone's time, could someone point me to a page that will explain what I should do to create a list of links and use them as a feed.

No doubt this is all very elementary, but I would appreciate some help.

Darrell

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by dagama

Hi,

I am a very new user of Angela's links, and I am not sure I quite understand what I am reading here. Could anyone with 5 minutes to spare confirm that I should:

1 Create the link.
2 Click on my profile page, grab that page address, and then submit it to something like pingler.com
3 I am also not clear on how the RSS issue works; without wishing to waste anyone's time, could someone point me to a page that will explain what I should do to create a list of links and use them as a feed.

No doubt this is all very elementary, but I would appreciate some help.

Darrell

Hi darrell,

1) create your link
2) goto the public viewable profile page with your link on and copy the url to 'notepad'
3) either -> go somewhere like pingler and ping the url
4) alternately goto somewhere like rss.icerocket.com and get a free account then create a rss channel then add your list or url's you copied into notepad as items to that rss channel.. then publish the channel and submit on sites like yahoo feeds / sindic8 / millionrss / feedagg and feedage

hope this helps..

steve

[desireeaib]

Mystic:

That's it! What may I pinging? What URL? My sites or the one where my Profile is newly created?

That is one thing I havne't understood and hasn't been clear exactly what's being pinged.

I know newbie/noob just not getting it!

Good thing is I can go back and redo some as I didn't do MY real name and such. So no biggie with that!!

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

Hi darrell,

1) create your link
2) goto the public viewable profile page with your link on and copy the url to 'notepad'
3) either -> go somewhere like pingler and ping the url
4) alternately goto somewhere like rss.icerocket.com and get a free account then create a rss channel then add your list or url's you copied into notepad as items to that rss channel.. then publish the channel and submit on sites like yahoo feeds / sindic8 / millionrss / feedagg and feedage

hope this helps..

steve

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[TrafficMystic]

It's the exact url of the site you have put your link on.. It has to be the page on the site that you can see your clickable link.

Steve

Originally Posted by desireeaib

Mystic:

That's it! What may I pinging? What URL? My sites or the one where my Profile is newly created?

That is one thing I havne't understood and hasn't been clear exactly what's being pinged.

I know newbie/noob just not getting it!

Good thing is I can go back and redo some as I didn't do MY real name and such. So no biggie with that!!




PR: wait... I: wait... L: wait... LD: wait... I: wait...wait... Rank: wait... Traffic: wait... Price: wait... C: wait...
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[desireeaib]

OMG!! Thank you, no one has ever said that!!!

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[dagama]

Thank you TrafficMystic,

Looks as though there are a few others who also needed the explanation.

Again, thanks for your help.

Darrell

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

the reason I create the rss feeds is to syndicate the profile links out to multiple sources.. I may be wrong but i found in my testing that this gets a quicker indexing than pinging and the profile links also end up syndicated to more places..

Steve

I lean in this direction also. Haven't finishd testing your software but like what I see so far. My links will be easily loaded to your software by the end of this week. Just wanted to say publicly - Keep up the good work,