Angela's Links Still Working Well For Everyone?

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I lean in this direction also. Haven't finishd testing your software but like what I see so far. My links will be easily loaded to your software by the end of this week. Just wanted to say publicly - Keep up the good work,

Thanks Mike,

I adding in your link package 'backlink bulldog' into the software and released the updates last night.

Regards

Steve

[kkchoon]

Steve's SEO Link dominator is a big help in link building, plus he almost supported all WSO's link packet, this is great piece of software!

[mariahm]

I have used the backlinks for four of my websites now and I am still finding them extremely useful.

[happyhill]

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

As kok mentioned.. pinging will get the profile pages noticed by the search engines as well, so should get them indexed.

the reason I create the rss feeds is to syndicate the profile links out to multiple sources.. I may be wrong but i found in my testing that this gets a quicker indexing than pinging and the profile links also end up syndicated to more places..

Steve

Hi Steve, I do submission the rss feed as your advise, at the same time, I also ping the rss feed as what Kok mentioned as well, do you notice normally how long time they will get index?

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by happyhill

Hi Steve, I do submission the rss feed as your advise, at the same time, I also ping the rss feed as what Kok mentioned as well, do you notice normally how long time they will get index?

you should see indexing very quickly... within a day or two 'max'.. you could also add the rss feeds that you create to propeller and digg for additional power..

Steve

[kkchoon]

Some links might not show at all, but they sure work - because my page ranking rises, so I know that!

[ahefner33]

Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

I'm not talking about a normal ping tool like Pingler or Pingomatic.

I'm referring to something where you can enter multiple url's and have them all pinged at the one time.

For example, if I create 50 profiles I could enter the 50 url's in and they would all get pinged, as opposed to having to individually ping each url in Pingler.

I found and use this: Mass Blog Pinger from Syndk8 with XMLRPC Goodness.

[Pat Jackson]

Originally Posted by ahefner33

I found and use this: Mass Blog Pinger from Syndk8 with XMLRPC Goodness.

Thanks for the link. That page is pretty funny, haha. I realised that I can also mass ping url's in Bookmarking Demon.

[kkchoon]

No one try SENuke? Free to use as well !

[ahefner33]

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

4) alternately goto somewhere like rss.icerocket.com and get a free account then create a rss channel then add your list or url's you copied into notepad as items to that rss channel.. then publish the channel and submit on sites like yahoo feeds / sindic8 / millionrss / feedagg and feedage

hope this helps..

steve

Hey,

Is there anyway you automate this for mass profile links or do you manually add each profile link as 'add item' on IceRocket? Thanks.

Adam

[ahefner33]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

No one try SENuke? Free to use as well !

For just 2 weeks right?

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by ahefner33

Hey,

Is there anyway you automate this for mass profile links or do you manually add each profile link as 'add item' on IceRocket? Thanks.

Adam

If you use TrafficMystic's software it automates it for you. If you were to use Icerocket on your own you would have to do it manually. Note if you are using backlinks outside of TrafficeMystic's software, I just use the bulk html 2 rss converter at html2rss.com

[ahefner33]

Originally Posted by thmgoodw

If you use TrafficMystic's software it automates it for you. If you were to use Icerocket on your own you would have to do it manually. Note if you are using backlinks outside of TrafficeMystic's software, I just use the bulk html 2 rss converter at html2rss.com

Awesome. Thanks. Been looking for something to do these functions.

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by ahefner33

Hey,

Is there anyway you automate this for mass profile links or do you manually add each profile link as 'add item' on IceRocket? Thanks.

Adam

I use my own software to create the rss feeds off the saved profile links semi automated.. 1/2 clicks and they auto generate..

it's the rss submissions that not yet automated (this will be added). Thanks for the PM...

steve

[happyhill]

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

you should see indexing very quickly... within a day or two 'max'.. you could also add the rss feeds that you create to propeller and digg for additional power..

Steve

Hi Steve, thanks for your reply.

By the way, about the seo link nominator, for forum profile, whether we can use the software for putting link only, not register. Or can we use it by alternative turn on and off at the register function?

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by happyhill

Hi Steve, thanks for your reply.

By the way, about the seo link nominator, for forum profile, whether we can use the software for putting link only, not register. Or can we use it by alternative turn on and off at the register function?

Hi HappyHill,

hmm... you would still need to import the site itself but you could do that either manually or via a text csv file import. You could then select your new site list then go via the 'create signup' screen but instead of signing up you could just login instead then drop the links and set as 'link created' in the software.

Regards

Steve

[happyhill]

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

Hi HappyHill,

hmm... you would still need to import the site itself but you could do that either manually or via a text csv file import. You could then select your new site list then go via the 'create signup' screen but instead of signing up you could just login instead then drop the links and set as 'link created' in the software.

Regards

Steve

Hi Steve, I have downloaded the trial version, will come back to you if any. Thank you

[HCLee]

It's just as well that these sites (that need commenting on) were discontinued. Most of the time I just didn't like the topics enough to really want to comment anything, so I skipped them most of the time.

Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards

If you remember, I HAD to drop those methods because if a comment was required, folks would spam the heck out of the sites and that would ruin the sites for everyone. That's why those types were removed from current and upcoming packets.

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[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by ahefner33

For just 2 weeks right?

Nope, even you don't register at all, you still can use the pinger for free!! No one try it? I'm still using it even though I stopped SENuke !

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by jasonmorgan

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Don't understand the point being made. Is this an ad?

[jasonmorgan]

simple copy and past from SEnuke site.

the previous poster... who appears to have been banned since the post is no longer there was asking about SEnuke.

I was going to post a link to the site, then I thought... if I can use google to find it, so can he.

So I just decided to be a jackass and copy and past the headline from the SEnuke page.

I wonder if I can make that my signature?

*edit* yes... I can. sorta.

[Duma]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Nope, even you don't register at all, you still can use the pinger for free!! No one try it? I'm still using it even though I stopped SENuke !

Hi kkchoon,

Why did you stop SENuke? I have been lurking here for a while trying to determine the most efficient way to get started and I was just about to start with SENuke. Is it a bad idea?

Thanks!

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by Duma

Hi kkchoon,

Why did you stop SENuke? I have been lurking here for a while trying to determine the most efficient way to get started and I was just about to start with SENuke. Is it a bad idea?

Thanks!

I will resume when I need them !

I use outsource lately, SENuke just too much work for me, I like things being done by somebody...

If you have your own team, or you are alone, SENuke will certainly save you a lot of time!

[turbohips]

I'm running into tons of problems lately with SENuke. I hope they fix them in their next update.

[TampaRay]

I for one think you are doing us all a tremendous service Angela. And for $5 if you only get a couple of links from each packet to stick you are still way in the money.

[sps2009]

I started using angelas and pauls back links in Sept. So far I have 3 months in, and I haven't really seen any changes. I have not tried the pinging or the RSS feeds, but I will now. I work in the payroll industry, and I don't expect to ever outrank paychex or ADP, but I am surprised that I don't have a higher page rank. I went back 50 pages and could not find my site for either key word. Am I doing something wrong?

[jazbo]

If you are not pinging or otherwise leading the googlebot to your created link pages, then the chances it will be digging around deep in a profile site and find them is not good.

Bearing in mind the wastage rate for the popular link packets is high now due to saturation, and the fact most of your links have not been found by the bots, I reckon your actual indexed backlinks number less than 20 for three months work.

You need to find other ways to build links.

Originally Posted by sps2009

I started using angelas and pauls back links in Sept. So far I have 3 months in, and I haven't really seen any changes. I have not tried the pinging or the RSS feeds, but I will now. I work in the payroll industry, and I don't expect to ever outrank paychex or ADP, but I am surprised that I don't have a higher page rank. I went back 50 pages and could not find my site for either key word. Am I doing something wrong?

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by jazbo

If you are not pinging or otherwise leading the googlebot to your created link pages, then the chances it will be digging around deep in a profile site and find them is not good.

True for the most part but it depends on what links you are using and how you found them. I didn't ping about 30 of the sites I submitted to for an experiment i did 3 weeks ago and 20+ have been crawled. I don't get that for all my sites but only the ones I call Virgin Backlinks. Used a more time consuming process to filter those. So you are right you have to use different techniques to find backlinks. I don't think people understand the downside of easily found backlinks. They are also easy to lose. Case in point alot of backlinks I heard were in a package used Kickapps. Kickapps decided to make their next software release no folllow and poof - thousands of backlinks disappeared.

Bearing in mind the wastage rate for the popular link packets is high now due to saturation

Great point. I don't think many people understand that the more links outgoing from a site the lower the value of each link. Again its time consuming to find ones that aren't widely used and it tempting to just throw up a whole lot of easy to find ones up but there is a payoff to not having links that are widely used as both you and I came to realize.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by turbohips

I'm running into tons of problems lately with SENuke. I hope they fix them in their next update.

Yes, they do have problems from time to time, and the fixes just take too long... one thing good is, they constantly adding more tools.

Originally Posted by sps2009

I started using angelas and pauls back links in Sept. So far I have 3 months in, and I haven't really seen any changes. I have not tried the pinging or the RSS feeds, but I will now. I work in the payroll industry, and I don't expect to ever outrank paychex or ADP, but I am surprised that I don't have a higher page rank. I went back 50 pages and could not find my site for either key word. Am I doing something wrong?

Usually, you don't see result because of 2 things:

1. You didn't track your keyword ranking, if they rises, it work!
2. You didn't pick the right keyword.

Some keyword need more links, and if your site is rising, you know the packet is working, but it might not reach page 1 in a long time - if your keyword is too competitive and you don't have enough links to it!

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I don't think people understand the downside of easily found backlinks. They are also easy to lose. Case in point alot of backlinks I heard were in a package used Kickapps. Kickapps decided to make their next software release no folllow and poof - thousands of backlinks disappeared.

Yes, very true. When you depend all links from a single platform, that is not wise. I believe not all kickapps will be nofollow, they should have an option to let the webmaster decide whether they want it follow..

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Great point. I don't think many people understand that the more links outgoing from a site the lower the value of each link. Again its time consuming to find ones that aren't widely used and it tempting to just throw up a whole lot of easy to find ones up but there is a payoff to not having links that are widely used as both you and I came to realize.

This might be true, I've yet tested it, but it seems like the more outgoing links and less incoming links, your site PR will drop...

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Yes, very true. When you depend all links from a single platform, that is not wise. I believe not all kickapps will be nofollow, they should have an option to let the webmaster decide whether they want it follow..

I stand corrected but whats the default setting? Thats probably what most kickapps users leave it at. Anyway you are ahead of the game KKchoon. Mixing links is a wise move.

This might be true, I've yet tested it, but it seems like the more outgoing links and less incoming links, your site PR will drop...

Yeah. Pretty much how it works.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I stand corrected but whats the default setting? Thats probably what most kickapps users leave it at. Anyway you are ahead of the game KKchoon. Mixing links is a wise move.

Thanks Mike! What kind of links do you mix?

I found it still very effective with these methods:

1. Blog or forum comment
2. Bookmarking
3. Articles
4. Press Release
5. Video?
6. Podcast
7. Ebook directories
8. Software directories

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Thanks Mike! What kind of links do you mix?

I found it still very effective with these methods:

1. Blog or forum comment
2. Bookmarking
3. Articles
4. Press Release
5. Video?
6. Podcast
7. Ebook directories
8. Software directories

Blogging, Articles, social network profiles, videos and forums. Here and there a directory but I don't really mess around too much in those as they have the reputation of link farms (not all)

Funny we should be talking about this because there is an offer on the Interent I just saw where the seller is selling a whole pile of links based on ONE software platform. I consider that a setup for a great waste of time. Hours and hours of time (plus the cost of the package) and then if that company changes the software settings the links all disappear overnight. Plus honestly how stupid do people think Google is? Even if you can do that now its only a matter of time before google has the ability to monitor the links and see that incredibly they all come from the same kind of site.

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Thanks Mike! What kind of links do you mix?

I found it still very effective with these methods:

1. Blog or forum comment
2. Bookmarking
3. Articles
4. Press Release
5. Video?
6. Podcast
7. Ebook directories
8. Software directories

Hi kkchoon,

One area that is very under rated and extremely power full for backlinks in your list is the 'software directories'. You get some awesome links from them.. You can also use the free PAD utilities to create your PAD files for submission.

Not done much in the pod casting side.. do you find that you get much traffic and sales from pod casts?

I know it was an area that stompernet talked about.. taking an article and turning it into a video and pod cast and promoting it on your blog then the pod cast directories and video sites..

Steve

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Funny we should be talking about this because there is an offer on the Interent I just saw where the seller is selling a whole pile of links based on ONE software platform. I consider that a setup for a great waste of time. Hours and hours of time (plus the cost of the package) and then if that company changes the software settings the links all disappear overnight. Plus honestly how stupid do people think Google is? Even if you can do that now its only a matter of time before google has the ability to monitor the links and see that incredibly they all come from the same kind of site.

Yes, I agree this is disadvantage when it comes to link building. As long as you don't put all your links in one platform, that should be ok.

They are still great resources for building links, just might not be long term when spammer starts to ruin everything...

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

Hi kkchoon,

Not done much in the pod casting side.. do you find that you get much traffic and sales from pod casts?

I know it was an area that stompernet talked about.. taking an article and turning it into a video and pod cast and promoting it on your blog then the pod cast directories and video sites..

Steve

I have yet do mass pad cast distribution, and I do it for links. Trying to find some good submission software, do you happen to know any?

For software directories, I use promosoft, need to renew the license every year, but you can submit to over 800+ directories

[kweblife1]

Yes. I was just looking into the whole software directory thing since I read about it recently in Chris Rempel's affiliate marketing book. He mentions about using Promosoft for software distribution.

I can build basic websites with dreamweaver, but I'm certainly not a html code pro.
So I'm wondering what is the simpliest way to get quality software which you don't have to build yourself. There are so many PLR software offers out there and on this forum as well, but how reliable are they really?

[sps2009]

Just an update...

I just finished the december packet that angela sent me. Out of the 32 sites, 14 of the sites had already changed and I was not able to post a back link on those sites. The month is not over, so I am sure that more of the moderators will get tired of all the back link traffic, and shut down the recent accounts. I have not even started on Paul's package yet, so I wonder how productive it will be. In the past 4 months I have not had one site indexed, from what I can tell with my google webmaster tool. However, I have just started pinging and submitting the back links to RSS feeders. I am hopeful this will help me boost my webpage.

[veeco]

I think this kind of method will be useless in the future as it easy to track by google engineer. The pattern are same and peoples doing it in massive way.

it kind like years ago when people spam meta keywords and descriptions, use same text color as background, etc...

These method also like a threat for people who work hard to get high PR... as they will get "scammed"

just my opinion...

[sps2009]

Last night after I posted here, I decided to check my analytics report from google. I found this connected to my index page and according to the report, it had 7 visits, which has me concerned. The last thing I need is for potential clients to think that I am a "spammer":

/?src=ThisPersonSpamsWebsitesButTheJokesOnThemAsThi sIsANoFollowLink

Obviously, this has to do with the back links.

Has anyone else ever had this issue? Is this a big deal? If so, what do I need to do to get rid of it? Is there anyway I can find where it came from? This is something new to me, just thought I'd share with you guys to see what you think...

[veeco]

could it be an automated anti script for such 'create profile' mothod... ??

[jasonmorgan]

The last thing I need is for potential clients to think that I am a "spammer":

then you shouldn't be spamming

if you are a legit business then you should look into pyramid linking (there was a recent post about it) so you can keep your business site clean of suspect backlinks and still spam every forum and blog on the planet.

[AvidAZ]

I think the links do okay for me, but i have to ping them or bookmark them to get them visible.

[MarkAse]

I do think that pinging the links makes sense. Really though Angela/Paul's lists are no longer a slam dunk for improving SEO. They are simply another tool to be used, for $13 a month total between the two I think they are well worth it.

If you use their links a month or two after they come out you'll have better success-you know after the site owner gets upset and takes down the 5k profiles that were created in the matter of two days.

[AndyBlackSEO]

I find that a lot of profile pages do not get indexed on their own. You need to get them indexed in order for the backlinks to count. You just need to find a couple of good bookmarking sites or other methods in which to get the pages indexed.

I ran a test just before the weekend. Only a handful from a long list of urls were indexed. I bookmarked some of these and today when I ran the app again, those bookmarked profiles were indexed.

Just make sure you don't buid them and then forget about them otherwise you may be wasting your time or money.

[Stephen Root]

Or if you don't want to bookmark, ping or submit profile pages to anywhere, you can always do something on the target page that "leaves a mark". Like for example reply to somebody's post in the forums or something similar. That will get your profile indexed also.

[sps2009]

Originally Posted by jasonmorgan

then you shouldn't be spamming

if you are a legit business then you should look into pyramid linking (there was a recent post about it) so you can keep your business site clean of suspect backlinks and still spam every forum and blog on the planet.

We are a legitimate business. Unfortunately, they don't teach you about SEO marketing when your getting your accounting degree. I'd like to know more about this pyramid linking. Could someone point me to the post that is referred to here?

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by sps2009

We are a legitimate business. Unfortunately, they don't teach you about SEO marketing when your getting your accounting degree. I'd like to know more about this pyramid linking. Could someone point me to the post that is referred to here?

I didn't read the thread that he was referring to, but i'm assuming it was something along the lines of:

Your "clean" site is point at the top of the pyramid. This is leve 1.

You then have a group of do-follow sites, web 2.0 pages, articles, etc., pointing to your clean site. All of these sites in level 2 would themselves not be classified as spammy. Good content, not stepping on owner's toes, etc.

Then, you have level 3, which is where all of the action is. You basically create a large volume of backlinks and point them to your level 2 sites. It is OK if a decent percentage of these may be considered spammy by some. But, you link all of these level 3 sites to your level 2 sites. This will increase the authority of all of your level 2 sites, and a good portion of that link juice will pass along to your main/clean (level 1) site.

In other words, the link juice can pass through mutliple link chains, but the spam smell will not.

So, you have a pyramid of links, with the level 3 links making up the bulk of the links at the bottom of the pyramid.

[jazbo]

A link pyramid is basically the same thing I outlined in my last ebook, its just creating a "firewall" that takes that crap links hit and passes on any goodness.

[sps2009]

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

I didn't read the thread that he was referring to, but i'm assuming it was something along the lines of:

Your "clean" site is point at the top of the pyramid. This is leve 1.

You then have a group of do-follow sites, web 2.0 pages, articles, etc., pointing to your clean site. All of these sites in level 2 would themselves not be classified as spammy. Good content, not stepping on owner's toes, etc.

Then, you have level 3, which is where all of the action is. You basically create a large volume of backlinks and point them to your level 2 sites. It is OK if a decent percentage of these may be considered spammy by some. But, you link all of these level 3 sites to your level 2 sites. This will increase the authority of all of your level 2 sites, and a good portion of that link juice will pass along to your main/clean (level 1) site.

In other words, the link juice can pass through mutliple link chains, but the spam smell will not.

So, you have a pyramid of links, with the level 3 links making up the bulk of the links at the bottom of the pyramid.

Tom,
Thank you for this. I am basically missing the middle part of my pyramid. This was some great info, and I'll start to put it into practice. I am really beginning to like this forum. A person can learn a lot here...

[jhess56]

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

you should see indexing very quickly... within a day or two 'max'.. you could also add the rss feeds that you create to propeller and digg for additional power..

Steve

you mean bookmark the rss feed?
hmm...never thought to bookmark an rss feed vs a regular url