to hyphen or not to hyphen?

zachary0611 · 11-04-2009, 01:58 PM

After reading Xfactors and other members threads on niche adsense sites. I have found a consumer product that has no competition. It has two words in it. The .com has been regged. Should I use the .net or .org or use the .com with a hyphen in it?

euhlir · 11-04-2009, 02:02 PM

I've tried hyphenated keyword URL's and they didn't rank well.

paulgl · 11-04-2009, 02:10 PM

Come on people, urls don't get ranked. Websites
get ranked. Hyphen or not, it does not matter.
You can put as many or as few hyphens as you want.
If you don't SEO the RIGHT way, nothing else matters.
Google could give a rip what your domain is.

I always try and come up with new examples on this topic:

Would anyone care to guess as to what
peacefulvalleycreation.com ranks high for?
It aint peaceful and it aint a valley. And creation? Hardly.

Do a search for military tributes. On the first
page is the hyphenated, military-tributes.com

Seriously, you can take xyz-xyz.com and get top ranked for
any keyword you wish! Hyphens and all!

Choose the coolest sounding domain, and run with it.

Paul

zachary0611 · 11-04-2009, 03:03 PM

well according to internetmarketer99 its important to get the root keyword in the domain because im making a niche consumer goods adsense site

paulgl · 11-04-2009, 03:55 PM

Anyone who tells you that is full of nonsense.
Warriorforum.com Where's the keyword they rank for?
They are not a warrior forum. They are an internet marketing forum.
Where is internet and/or marketing in the domain?

wikipedia? Amazon? even the ridiculous google, yahoo, and bing.
Not to mention twitter...

peacefulvalleycreation.com top site for online blackjack.
I guess they did not get the memo.

Two top ranked real estate sites: zillow.com and trulia.com
Where's the keyword?

Interesting about zillow. Let's take it as a case study, if you
will. Who told them they can rank high for real estate with a
nonsense domain like zillow.com? What is a zillow? A made up
word even!!!!

If that's not proof enough, I could give you many more.

Anyone who tells you that you MUST put a keyword in the
domain is nuts. Websites get ranked. Not domains.

Here's another one: Do you know what powells.com ranks
high for? You would never guess! (hint: used books)

No matter what you choose as a domain, if you SEO the RIGHT
way, you will get ranked. Many of the top domains are just
nonsense words.

Think about wordpress.com. Where's the keyword blog?

How about flickr? Not even a word. Where's photo? Image?

livejasmin.com You would NEVER guess what that ranks for!!!!!

These are only a few examples of websites that use nonsense words
and blow everyone out of the water. Don't concentrate on domain.
It does not matter. If someone can take zillow and kick butt, so can
you. I'll bet they get a ton of emails from so-called experts asking
them for advice on getting a site ranked, cuz the keyword thing must
be driving them nuts.

Paul

zachary0611 · 11-04-2009, 04:44 PM

I understand what your saying and you are right in some cases, but don't they have a huge number of backlinks? I'm not trying to brand a site im trying to get a micro niche adsense site to number 1 spot with the least time as possible. I know the search term "click here" has adobe in the #1 spot but adobe has millions of backlinks.

webpromoterservice · 11-04-2009, 04:48 PM

paulgl is absolutely right.there is never to show that having a keyword in your URL will improve your rankings.Amazon and the likes are good examples

What you need is good quality links pointing to your site to improve rankings.There are many other factors to help boost your site and backlinks are one of the most important.

zachary0611 · 11-04-2009, 04:50 PM

well i just regged the .net yeah!

11-04-2009, 01:58 PM	#1
zachary0611 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Raleigh, N.C. Posts: 325 Thanks: 19 Thanked 37 Times in 29 Posts	to hyphen or not to hyphen? After reading Xfactors and other members threads on niche adsense sites. I have found a consumer product that has no competition. It has two words in it. The .com has been regged. Should I use the .net or .org or use the .com with a hyphen in it?
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11-04-2009, 02:02 PM	#2
euhlir Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 310 Thanks: 20 Thanked 29 Times in 27 Posts	Re: to hyphen or not to hyphen? I've tried hyphenated keyword URL's and they didn't rank well.

11-04-2009, 02:10 PM	#3
paulgl Plundering the Web War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 4,404 Thanks: 666 Thanked 999 Times in 773 Posts	Re: to hyphen or not to hyphen? Come on people, urls don't get ranked. Websites get ranked. Hyphen or not, it does not matter. You can put as many or as few hyphens as you want. If you don't SEO the RIGHT way, nothing else matters. Google could give a rip what your domain is. I always try and come up with new examples on this topic: Would anyone care to guess as to what peacefulvalleycreation.com ranks high for? It aint peaceful and it aint a valley. And creation? Hardly. Do a search for military tributes. On the first page is the hyphenated, military-tributes.com Seriously, you can take xyz-xyz.com and get top ranked for any keyword you wish! Hyphens and all! Choose the coolest sounding domain, and run with it. Paul
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11-04-2009, 03:03 PM	#4
zachary0611 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Raleigh, N.C. Posts: 325 Thanks: 19 Thanked 37 Times in 29 Posts	Re: to hyphen or not to hyphen? well according to internetmarketer99 its important to get the root keyword in the domain because im making a niche consumer goods adsense site
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11-04-2009, 03:55 PM	#5
paulgl Plundering the Web War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 4,404 Thanks: 666 Thanked 999 Times in 773 Posts	Re: to hyphen or not to hyphen? Anyone who tells you that is full of nonsense. Warriorforum.com Where's the keyword they rank for? They are not a warrior forum. They are an internet marketing forum. Where is internet and/or marketing in the domain? wikipedia? Amazon? even the ridiculous google, yahoo, and bing. Not to mention twitter... peacefulvalleycreation.com top site for online blackjack. I guess they did not get the memo. Two top ranked real estate sites: zillow.com and trulia.com Where's the keyword? Interesting about zillow. Let's take it as a case study, if you will. Who told them they can rank high for real estate with a nonsense domain like zillow.com? What is a zillow? A made up word even!!!! If that's not proof enough, I could give you many more. Anyone who tells you that you MUST put a keyword in the domain is nuts. Websites get ranked. Not domains. Here's another one: Do you know what powells.com ranks high for? You would never guess! (hint: used books) No matter what you choose as a domain, if you SEO the RIGHT way, you will get ranked. Many of the top domains are just nonsense words. Think about wordpress.com. Where's the keyword blog? How about flickr? Not even a word. Where's photo? Image? livejasmin.com You would NEVER guess what that ranks for!!!!! These are only a few examples of websites that use nonsense words and blow everyone out of the water. Don't concentrate on domain. It does not matter. If someone can take zillow and kick butt, so can you. I'll bet they get a ton of emails from so-called experts asking them for advice on getting a site ranked, cuz the keyword thing must be driving them nuts. Paul
	Missed the last one? Don't be late on next freebie backlink space.

11-04-2009, 04:44 PM	#6
zachary0611 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Raleigh, N.C. Posts: 325 Thanks: 19 Thanked 37 Times in 29 Posts	Re: to hyphen or not to hyphen? I understand what your saying and you are right in some cases, but don't they have a huge number of backlinks? I'm not trying to brand a site im trying to get a micro niche adsense site to number 1 spot with the least time as possible. I know the search term "click here" has adobe in the #1 spot but adobe has millions of backlinks.
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11-04-2009, 04:48 PM	#7
webpromoterservice HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 128 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: to hyphen or not to hyphen? paulgl is absolutely right.there is never to show that having a keyword in your URL will improve your rankings.Amazon and the likes are good examples What you need is good quality links pointing to your site to improve rankings.There are many other factors to help boost your site and backlinks are one of the most important.
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11-04-2009, 04:50 PM	#8
zachary0611 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Raleigh, N.C. Posts: 325 Thanks: 19 Thanked 37 Times in 29 Posts	Re: to hyphen or not to hyphen? well i just regged the .net yeah!
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