Keywords

[rovad]

I know people always say don't open new topics when there are dozens of others explaining that particular question/problem.

However, I am a student, have to study, so I am doing all this IM learning, money making trying etc etc. in my spare time, which is limited. Oh, yes, I am new to this forum.

First question: Is external Adwords keyword tool good for finding keywords which attract relatively small number of visitors, let's say 1000-3000, a month
(yes, I know, you have to put exact instead of broad in results).

Because I've done some kwrd research there, and I have like 8-10 keywords which I am already ranked (I've done some SEO) pretty high for (first 2-4 pages, only a lil' bit more of backlinking and Google top 2-3 positions) and those keywords together make something like 4000-5000 visitors monthly ACCORDING to Adwords keyword tool.

On the other side, there is that Wordtracked tool I heard of few days ago, which shows entirelly different results for keywords I am ranked good.

Anyone has some suggestions? Because I mainly looking for something like 80% accurate number of (average of course) monthly visitors, to plan my SEO campaigns.

[askloz]

sure, why not, or use Keyword Elite 2.0, head over to Keyword Elite University to get an idea of what it does before you buy it... proper time saver I tell ya

[Rush]

As I'm sure you know, no keyword tool is completely accurate. I find that it's best to check the keyword with multiple tools before going for it. Personally I also check the keyword on google trends because most of the time if it shows data, it's usually a good indication you picked a solid keyword.

[warrior123]

Just stick with the data from Wordtracker, Google keyword tool and the Google sktool. Nothing is 100% accurate but it's the best we have to work with.

The BEST way to get accurate data on how many searches there are for a particular keyword phrase is to simply run a PPC campaign bidding on the [exact] term.

For example, say you wanted to get an idea of how many people were searching for "best Seattle chiropractors". You could bid on the exact phrase [best seattle chiropractors] in Google for 1 month (or whenever you think you have enough relative data) and view the impression count -- which will tell you how many people REALLY searched using that phrase.

[kkchoon]

I found that Google keyword tools to be relatively accurate! Just don't be too sensitive about the numbers, but they will give you a feel of how many visitors you are gonna get!

[rovad]

of course, but I was talkin about some bigger inaccuraccy... Few hundreds up or down for a keyword of only 1000 monthly visitors according to Google is just fine.

[Kevin Cotter]

Also don't forget that Wordtracker gives you seaches by day. Google is per month. So that might be why your numbers as off.

Kevin

[dburk]

Originally Posted by rovad

... those keywords together make something like 4000-5000 visitors monthly ACCORDING to Adwords keyword tool.

On the other side, there is that Wordtracked tool I heard of few days ago, which shows entirelly different results for keywords I am ranked good.

Anyone has some suggestions? Because I mainly looking for something like 80% accurate number of (average of course) monthly visitors, to plan my SEO campaigns.

Hi rovad,

Let me clarify something for you: The AdWords Keyword Tool does NOT report the number of visitors, it reports the number of searches on their Search Network. About half of all searches are abandoned without clicking on any listing. The #1 listing gets an average CTR of approximately 23%. The second position averages 6.5% CTR and it goes down from there.

You need to take these average CTRs into account when calculating your needs for visitor traffic.

[rovad]

that still means I get something like 500-1000 visitors a month. Trust me that is way better than I do now.

[SladeK]

Apologize for the stupid question, but I am new and going to ask anyway since this thread is relatively on topic.

In using the Google keyword research tool, is it more important to pay attention to local searches as opposed to the global searches?

I would image both are beneficial, as such, I am confused why both are listed over just listing global searches.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by rovad

of course, but I was talkin about some bigger inaccuraccy... Few hundreds up or down for a keyword of only 1000 monthly visitors according to Google is just fine.

I normally times the number of searches with 0.25, and just view it as quarter of the actual traffic coming into my site, just a reference that work for me, you can try it too!

Originally Posted by dburk

Hi rovad,

Let me clarify something for you: The AdWords Keyword Tool does NOT report the number of visitors, it reports the number of searches on their Search Network. About half of all searches are abandoned without clicking on any listing. The #1 listing gets an average CTR of approximately 23%. The second position averages 6.5% CTR and it goes down from there.

You need to take these average CTRs into account when calculating your needs for visitor traffic.

I think all figures are relative, but act aas a good reference! There are still many factors like - How good is your description? How attractive is the site title?