Duplicate article links count after time?!?!

[adam westrop]

Guys,

I know that the same duplicated article can rank on Google for a term under different sources, e.g Ezinearticles, Squidoo etc etc.

However after time, do these links still count and does the article still rank etc?

I want to know whether to buy something like MAR - or whether it isnt really worth it, and I can just keep sending out the same article to all the quality directories etc.

Thanks

[kkchoon]

Nope, it don't work that way anymore, Google filter all duplicated result in their SERP!

You can, however use article spinner and create different version of the same article, submit it to many web 2.0 properties to get multiple listing on the keyword!

[adam westrop]

Thanks - anymore opinions out there?

I think there must be something to spinning, as lots of people rave about services like UAW etc, and if traditional article marketing worked for links, surely everyone would be using Article Marketer for sheer quantity?

[AndyBlackSEO]

Agreed. For backlinks, you do not want to send out the same article. If you choose to spin your articles though, 'spin them well!', otherwise you'll be wasting your time.

[SeanSupplee]

I believe the content of the articles need to be about 30% to 40% unique in order to play it on the safe side and be considered a unique article but I could be wrong.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by SeanSupplee

I believe the content of the articles need to be about 30% to 40% unique in order to play it on the safe side and be considered a unique article but I could be wrong.

I too not sure about the percentage, but the more the better !

[affiliated survivor]

Does this mean that if you publish an article at EZA, and someone puts it on his blog, that this link does not count. Since the article is 100% the same.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by affiliated survivor

Does this mean that if you publish an article at EZA, and someone puts it on his blog, that this link does not count. Since the article is 100% the same.

My experience tells me it count, but not as much as an unique content. How much link juice will pass, I don't know!

I see some site rank well with duplicated posts all over the sites, but not on competitive keywords...

[Pat Jackson]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Nope, it don't work that way anymore, Google filter all duplicated result in their SERP!

You can, however use article spinner and create different version of the same article, submit it to many web 2.0 properties to get multiple listing on the keyword!

I have sites that I have used only plr articles that have been indexed many times prior to me using them and it hasn't effected my rankings one bit.

As for Google filtering out all duplicate copies, what do you have to say about this?

- Google Search

[digidoodles]

Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

I have sites that I have used only plr articles that have been indexed many times prior to me using them and it hasn't effected my rankings one bit.

As for Google filtering out all duplicate copies, what do you have to say about this?

- Google Search

Uh-oh! Up jump the devil!

Pat, don't go around bustin' all those seo myths. People make money sellin' those myths

Google doesn't filter pages or sites that have the same content. (You've proved that.)

Google doesn't "ignore" duplicate content. (You've proved that.)

Google doesn't give the domain that had it on its site first, rank.

The fight for the top comes down to most relevance and CONTENT.

And, if you think about it, SEO "solutions" and software are both created from rumors started by the people that devise them.

Now, Pat PLEASE go find something else to do instead of spreading these truths around a place full of IM'ers

Warmly,

Brandi

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

I have sites that I have used only plr articles that have been indexed many times prior to me using them and it hasn't effected my rankings one bit.

As for Google filtering out all duplicate copies, what do you have to say about this?

- Google Search

LOL, Google actually shows many closely related content in SERP!

Look at the multiple pages there, many receive high PR and had tons of links! Although the result is not as unique as we might think, it still shows!

It seems like Google is placing more weight over backlinks than unique content! This is new to me, I've learn a new lesson here!

Thanks for sharing!

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by digidoodles

Uh-oh! Up jump the devil!

Pat, don't go around bustin' all those seo myths. People make money sellin' those myths

Google doesn't filter pages or sites that have the same content. (You've proved that.)

Google doesn't "ignore" duplicate content. (You've proved that.)

Google doesn't give the domain that had it on its site first, rank.

The fight for the top comes down to most relevance and CONTENT.

And, if you think about it, SEO "solutions" and software are both created from rumors started by the people that devise them.

Now, Pat PLEASE go find something else to do instead of spreading these truths around a place full of IM'ers

Warmly,

Brandi

Forum is a great place to learn new things, and I love it!

Like it or not, if you are article marketer, you probably submit tons of articles to article directories, and if you search for your article name, you probably see the same result - All duplicated content!

However, when you try to make your article rank for a particular keyword with some competition, it would be wise to spin it for easier multiple listing!

I found that Google still prefer unique content as oppose to duplicated result, and like it or not, unique content gives you better ranking!

Seems like Google still prioritize backlinks as their main factor, and I think if all the factors the same, unique content still count - a lot!

I need to correct this -

Google filter all duplicated result in their SERP!

to

Google prefer unique content in their SERP!

Once again, Google has proved itself to love backlinks more than content. Time to build more backlinks to your page !

Kok Choon

[digidoodles]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Once again, Google has proved itself to love backlinks more than content. Time to build more backlinks to your page !

Kok Choon

I disagree...

And the reason is this: there is at least one marketer here who has shown time and time again that he doesn't backlink any of his sites at all. He makes $100K per year based on content. "Duplicate" content of every kind, everywhere, at that.

Warmly,

Brandi

[4morereferrals]

Then why would a one page lead capture site outrank an article marketer with over 300 published articles, all optimized for same / similar keyword phrase?

... backlinks.

Wouldnt it suck to have a 75 page site, and 300 articles on EZA alone - only to find out some dude with 1 page site, 4 articles and a boatload of profile links outranks you by 3 spots 10 months out of the year?

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Originally Posted by digidoodles

I disagree...

And the reason is this: there is at least one marketer here who has shown time and time again that he doesn't backlink any of his sites at all. He makes $100K per year based on content. "Duplicate" content of every kind, everywhere, at that.

Warmly,

Brandi

[redicelander]

As I just said on another thread here I've seen many marketers I trust say strongly that duplicate content is a myth, and that "relevant" backlinks are great for SEO. I have heard it enough times and from enough sources that I have to agree that duplicate content is a myth.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by digidoodles

I disagree...

And the reason is this: there is at least one marketer here who has shown time and time again that he doesn't backlink any of his sites at all. He makes $100K per year based on content. "Duplicate" content of every kind, everywhere, at that.

Warmly,

Brandi

Yes, 2 conditions here:

1. You need to find low competition keywords, with a lot of searches but yet to have much content created!

2. High competition keywords with a lot of unique content around, you are no luck unless you backlinks your duplicated content!

If you disagree, I would appreciate if you can prove to me!

Kok Choon

[digidoodles]

Go read the Mage thread.

Buy the system.

Understand the concepts.

And, you'll see that content (duplicate) is king.

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Yes, 2 conditions here:

1. You need to find low competition keywords, with a lot of searches but yet to have much content created!

2. High competition keywords with a lot of unique content around, you are no luck unless you backlinks your duplicated content!

If you disagree, I would appreciate if you can prove to me!

Kok Choon

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[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by digidoodles

Go read the Mage thread.

Buy the system.

Understand the concepts.

And, you'll see that content (duplicate) is king.

Do you have much success with this system? How does it work? Can you include the link here?

I will purchase it and do a detail review here!

BTW, I just did some research on Warriorforum, is the Mage you refer to as Wordpress Mage (http://www.wpmage.com), If so I think this is another auto blogging system!

If you use auto blogging system, be prepare to create hundreds of sites before you can really do 5 figures... at least that's what the auto blog Gurus does.

One of the most important part in auto blogging - backlinks, the Wordpress Mage just happen to automate it some how - see the "Index Mage" portion !

You need links, automated or not!

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Nope, it don't work that way anymore, Google filter all duplicated result in their SERP!

Google does not filter anything, why do people continue with this myth ... I have an article I just posted and it takes up 6 spots with the same exact article.. Nothing is spun, it is exactly the same..

Sorry but this myth is bad advice...

People can spin articles if they choose but it is NOT required to do so. There are benefits to spinning an article but again it is NOT required, google does NOT filter nothing..

James

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Google does not filter anything, why do people continue with this myth ... I have an article I just posted and it takes up 6 spots with the same exact article.. Nothing is spun, it is exactly the same..

Sorry but this myth is bad advice...

People can spin articles if they choose but it is NOT required to do so. There are benefits to spinning an article but again it is NOT required, google does NOT filter nothing..

James

Hey James, Nice to see you drop by!

I've corrected myself on post #12:

I need to correct this -

Google filter all duplicated result in their SERP!

to

Google prefer unique content in their SERP!

I also point out this:

1. You need to find low competition keywords, with a lot of searches but yet to have much content created!

2. High competition keywords with a lot of unique content around, you are no luck unless you backlinks your duplicated content!

Does your article fits in this category? Please en-light me.

Unique content is king, not duplicate. There are priority to this, if there are unique content, which do you think Google prefer?

Using very low competition long tail keywords like your article name certainly will show all your articles! But what if I want to rank for money keyword, something that really make me money, don't you think unique content is better? At least from the user experience?

BTW, you said there are benefits to spin article, can you tell me what is that? thanks!

I know you are the bookmarking guy

Can you tell me if bookmarking really help in ranking an article? Will it sustain the ranking? If it does, I must be doing something wrong, any special tips for me?

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Hey James, Nice to see you drop by!

I've corrected myself on post #12:



I also point out this:



Does your article fits in this category? Please en-light me.

Unique content is king, not duplicate. There are priority to this, if there are unique content, which do you think Google prefer?

Using very low competition long tail keywords like your article name certainly will show all your articles! But what if I want to rank for money keyword, something that really make me money, don't you think unique content is better? At least from the user experience?

BTW, you said there are benefits to spin article, can you tell me what is that? thanks!

I know you are the bookmarking guy

Can you tell me if bookmarking really help in ranking an article? Will it sustain the ranking? If it does, I must be doing something wrong, any special tips for me?

No my articles do not fit in either on of those categories... I do not go after no low competition keywords, I do not waste my time looking for them either. I target highly competitive ones because I love the challenge. Besides I only push my own products and do not do any affiliate products.

It is obvious google wants to show what is related to the search but they do not always do this either... Syndication will never go away and this is exactly what people do when they have articles show up in 3 or 4 spots or more...

Many benefits to spinning articles but it is not required.. It also depends upon what tool you use and how you use it..

The reason why some of us that work smart and spin our articles is because it is very effective marketing. Some of the reasons to spin articles are:

* Create Mini Reports
* Create Press Release
* Create Blog Post
* Create Ebooks
* Create PDF Documents
* Create Squido and Hubpages
* Create Videos

But there is more to it then just this.

Let's say you write your article and post it on your site and then take that same exact article and post it on 10 article directories. There is nothing at all wrong with this and no it will not hurt your rankings and no duplicate content penalty does not exist.

But you may very well be missing out on great opportunities to generate additional opt-in's, customers, or followers.

Now let's say you properly spin your article (not tweak it, but spin it to 70%+ uniqueness) and you post the original on your site and post 10 spun articles on 10 article directories.

This is what you are going to get for working smart and taking the time to "properly" spin your article.

1. You can use this spun content to repurpose into other formats as explained in the above post.

2. Almost all article directories have author rss feeds, if you submit those feeds then all you are doing is putting out 10 rss feeds that have the same exact content. Who wants to subscribe to 10 exact same rss feeds ? If you spin the articles and each directory gets a different spun article then your author rss feeds are now 70%+ unique and thus will get more subscribers.

3. If at such time the article directories or search engines do start kicking out articles that are posted on other sites then you entire business is screwed. If you spun them though, you have nothing to worry about because you worked smart and took care of the problem before a real problem existed.

4. By properly spinning your articles you have the ability to target other keywords with the spun versions, everybody knows targeting just 1 keyword is not going to brng the bacon home. You must target several different keywords.

There are other reasons but this could turn into an entire ebook if I was to explain it all...

Yes bookmarking can increase and help keep your ranking in #1 spot ...

James

[kkchoon]

Hey James, thanks for the detail posting, appreciate your confirmation to few of my concerns here !

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

No my articles do not fit in either on of those categories... I do not go after no low competition keywords, I do not waste my time looking for them either. I target highly competitive ones because I love the challenge. Besides I only push my own products and do not do any affiliate products.

If you read my condition carefully, I did mention if you are going after competitive keywords, you need backlinks to show multiple listing on the SERP, and you just proves my concern - backlink is a must for competitive keywords.

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

It is obvious google wants to show what is related to the search but they do not always do this either... Syndication will never go away and this is exactly what people do when they have articles show up in 3 or 4 spots or more...

Many benefits to spinning articles but it is not required.. It also depends upon what tool you use and how you use it..

I tried duplicated content and bookmarked all my articles with socialbot and bookmarking demon, few of it shows for a while and left only one that rank on the SERP, until I start to spin my articles, and the benefit shows almost immediately - more articles stay on the SERP!

From that day onwards, I spin my articles if I want multiple listing.

But this thread has proved me wrong, that if I have enough backlinks to all articles, I can rank them on the same SERP for the same keyword!

I'm very excited to know this but I'm still going to spin the articles for multiple list, because I still think Google weight more for unique content if all conditions are the same.

Having said that, I bet the most important factor is not content uniqueness, is backlinks, right?

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

The reason why some of us that work smart and spin our articles is because it is very effective marketing. Some of the reasons to spin articles are:

* Create Mini Reports
* Create Press Release
* Create Blog Post
* Create Ebooks
* Create PDF Documents
* Create Squido and Hubpages
* Create Videos

But there is more to it then just this.

Let's say you write your article and post it on your site and then take that same exact article and post it on 10 article directories. There is nothing at all wrong with this and no it will not hurt your rankings and no duplicate content penalty does not exist.

But you may very well be missing out on great opportunities to generate additional opt-in's, customers, or followers.

Now let's say you properly spin your article (not tweak it, but spin it to 70%+ uniqueness) and you post the original on your site and post 10 spun articles on 10 article directories.

This is what you are going to get for working smart and taking the time to "properly" spin your article.

1. You can use this spun content to repurpose into other formats as explained in the above post.

Nice tips! This can greatly cut down my outsource cost, just get some people to rewrite them in spin ready format!

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

2. Almost all article directories have author rss feeds, if you submit those feeds then all you are doing is putting out 10 rss feeds that have the same exact content. Who wants to subscribe to 10 exact same rss feeds ? If you spin the articles and each directory gets a different spun article then your author rss feeds are now 70%+ unique and thus will get more subscribers.

RSS feeds is great way to distribute your content and get links, both short term and long term !

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

3. If at such time the article directories or search engines do start kicking out articles that are posted on other sites then you entire business is screwed. If you spun them though, you have nothing to worry about because you worked smart and took care of the problem before a real problem existed.

Do you mean Google will kick out duplicate content? Am I missing something here ?

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

4. By properly spinning your articles you have the ability to target other keywords with the spun versions, everybody knows targeting just 1 keyword is not going to brng the bacon home. You must target several different keywords.

Great tips! I used to spin different related keywords to my articles too, result is awesome!

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

There are other reasons but this could turn into an entire ebook if I was to explain it all...

Yes bookmarking can increase and help keep your ranking in #1 spot ...

James

Thanks James! This information is Gold!

You haven't really answer my question about bookmarking, will it last long? I ask Because my article only rank for few days or a week if I only use bookmarks, I must be missing something here...?

BTW, I am interested in your bookmarking service, how does this work? All do follow and High PR sites?

Thanks again for your time! Appreciate it!

Kok Choon

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Hey James, thanks for the detail posting, appreciate your confirmation to few of my concerns here !



If you read my condition carefully, I did mention if you are going after competitive keywords, you need backlinks to show multiple listing on the SERP, and you just proves my concern - backlink is a must for competitive keywords.



I tried duplicated content and bookmarked all my articles with socialbot and bookmarking demon, few of it shows for a while and left only one that rank on the SERP, until I start to spin my articles, and the benefit shows almost immediately - more articles stay on the SERP!

From that day onwards, I spin my articles if I want multiple listing.

But this thread has proved me wrong, that if I have enough backlinks to all articles, I can rank them on the same SERP for the same keyword!

I'm very excited to know this but I'm still going to spin the articles for multiple list, because I still think Google weight more for unique content if all conditions are the same.

Having said that, I bet the most important factor is not content uniqueness, is backlinks, right?



Nice tips! This can greatly cut down my outsource cost, just get some people to rewrite them in spin ready format!



RSS feeds is great way to distribute your content and get links, both short term and long term !



Do you mean Google will kick out duplicate content? Am I missing something here ?



Great tips! I used to spin different related keywords to my articles too, result is awesome!



Thanks James! This information is Gold!

You haven't really answer my question about bookmarking, will it last long? I ask Because my article only rank for few days or a week if I only use bookmarks, I must be missing something here...?

BTW, I am interested in your bookmarking service, how does this work? All do follow and High PR sites?

Thanks again for your time! Appreciate it!

Kok Choon

Do not misunderstand my post ... You can get top listings for high competitive keywords without backlinks. Again I have proven this but I am not going to post the links here for obvious reasons. You just have to use the tools that are provided to you. Sorry I can not go into great details on this as it would be just giving away far too much information for competition.

As for bookmarking I have listings that have held top positions over eza for 8 months straight.. So yes the bookmarking can help your article stay. Some seem to think it is just a quick boost but this is not 100% true. Yes it will give a quick boost but if you are marketing your site properly then the links will stay.

I for one do not care about PR one bit because it means nothing to anyone but google. I have also proven a pr 0 can outrank a pr 7 site with little problem. PR is meaning less and less these days. Also the fact is a pr 7 could have 100 visits a day while a pr 0 could have 1,000 a day.

Many make the mistake of saying ok I am only going to submit to high pr sites because that is what is going to rank me.. What they seem to forget is just creating those backlinks and not participating in the communities, they are in fact losing sales and leaving money on the table.

The same thing goes to do follow sites, it means nothing ... This also has been proven time and time again.. Most social sites are no follow and even articlesbase.com (along with other article directories) is no follow but yet the articles get top listings and yes the backlinks do count.

What people need to do is stop listening to others that are self proclaimed experts and just go out there and test it for themselves. This is why so many myths are started about dup content, no follow/do follow, page rank, and etc ... None of these myths mean anything and I encourage people to go test it for yourself..

James

Edited: as for my point #3 above - Nobody can say what the search engines will do 6 months, a year, and etc from now.. This is why many spin articles so they are ready incase this dup content thing ever does happen.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Do not misunderstand my post ... You can get top listings for high competitive keywords without backlinks. Again I have proven this but I am not going to post the links here for obvious reasons. You just have to use the tools that are provided to you. Sorry I can not go into great details on this as it would be just giving away far too much information for competition.

As much as I have respect to you, I just don't buy it.

Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing, I am gonna ask more specific question, if you don't mind.

Can you rank on Weight Loss, Business Consulting, Dog Training without any backlinks?

or

You can easily rank on "Dog training for " + breed name, Weight loss for men / women, Online Business Consulting?

Is there a limit to your method? How do I learn about this, any course?

I can rank for all these terms with authority site, using massive backlinks, but not without it.

I will believe and change my stand, I just need a very solid and simple proof...

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

As for bookmarking I have listings that have held top positions over eza for 8 months straight.. So yes the bookmarking can help your article stay. Some seem to think it is just a quick boost but this is not 100% true. Yes it will give a quick boost but if you are marketing your site properly then the links will stay.

I guest my only conclusion to your answer is - I'm not using enough bookmarking sites...

BTW, do you consider bookmarking as a type of backlinks?

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

I for one do not care about PR one bit because it means nothing to anyone but google. I have also proven a pr 0 can outrank a pr 7 site with little problem. PR is meaning less and less these days. Also the fact is a pr 7 could have 100 visits a day while a pr 0 could have 1,000 a day.

Agreed, that's have to do with keyword resarch, not PR...

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Many make the mistake of saying ok I am only going to submit to high pr sites because that is what is going to rank me.. What they seem to forget is just creating those backlinks and not participating in the communities, they are in fact losing sales and leaving money on the table.

I am one of them!

I think you might be confusing social marketing with SEO, I agreed that you need to participate in those sites for relationship, backlinks and branding, but from SEO perspective, we need only get the backlinks.

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

The same thing goes to do follow sites, it means nothing ... This also has been proven time and time again.. Most social sites are no follow and even articlesbase.com (along with other article directories) is no follow but yet the articles get top listings and yes the backlinks do count.

I disagree with you on this - nofollow created to not pass link juice, unless you have proof on this, I really don't think so!

I can use articlebase to rank high for any article I want, getting tons of traffic and attracting many authority links to my site, but not necessary benefit from the direct link.

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

What people need to do is stop listening to others that are self proclaimed experts and just go out there and test it for themselves. This is why so many myths are started about dup content, no follow/do follow, page rank, and etc ... None of these myths mean anything and I encourage people to go test it for yourself..

James

Edited: as for my point #3 above - Nobody can say what the search engines will do 6 months, a year, and etc from now.. This is why many spin articles so they are ready incase this dup content thing ever does happen.

Are you a self proclaimed experts? I think everyone is an expert in some area, right? In fact, I encourage people to self proclaimed themselves, just don't put out claims that has no proof.

We need proof, as always! I'll change my stand and my view when some points are proven. That's the way I learn and teach

Anyway, thanks for all the time to help me understand your "no backlink" system (although I've no idea how this works), I would be greatly appreciated if you can share some resources, may be a course or something that I can pick up?

Originally Posted by kkchoon

As much as I have respect to you, I just don't buy it.

Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing, I am gonna ask more specific question, if you don't mind.

Can you rank on Weight Loss, Business Consulting, Dog Training without any backlinks?

or

You can easily rank on "Dog training for " + breed name, Weight loss for men / women, Online Business Consulting?

Is there a limit to your method? How do I learn about this, any course?

I can rank for all these terms with authority site, using massive backlinks, but not without it.

I will believe and change my stand, I just need a very solid and simple proof...



I guest my only conclusion to your answer is - I'm not using enough bookmarking sites...

BTW, do you consider bookmarking as a type of backlinks?



Agreed, that's have to do with keyword resarch, not PR...



I am one of them!

I think you might be confusing social marketing with SEO, I agreed that you need to participate in those sites for relationship, backlinks and branding, but from SEO perspective, we need only get the backlinks.



I disagree with you on this - nofollow created to not pass link juice, unless you have proof on this, I really don't think so!

I can use articlebase to rank high for any article I want, getting tons of traffic and attracting many authority links to my site, but not necessary benefit from the direct link.



Are you a self proclaimed experts? I think everyone is an expert in some area, right? In fact, I encourage people to self proclaimed themselves, just don't put out claims that has no proof.

We need proof, as always! I'll change my stand and my view when some points are proven. That's the way I learn and teach

Anyway, thanks for all the time to help me understand your "no backlink" system (although I've no idea how this works), I would be greatly appreciated if you can share some resources, may be a course or something that I can pick up?

Yes I can rank a weight loss and etc top listing without any backlinks, it all about the resources you use. Again I have proven this already but it would make no sense for me to post the links here. Maybe I will sell the method at some time although I doubt it.

With that said though I have no need to rank any weight loss or anything as I do not deal with affiliate products.

This does not mean you should not build backlinks though as I agree that you should. Backlinks come in many different forms and yes bookmarking is also creating backlinks.

As far as an expert... I do not claim myself to be no expert, no guru, and certainly I do not claim the label of a "marketer" ... I am a website developer that has built 10,000's of websites and I have created many very popular products that sell very well. But I do not believe in "labels".

As for anything else as I have always said "Test" ... This is the best thing you can do to see what works for "YOU"..

James

[Daniel Molano]

Define "highly competitive keywords", because the ones that are truly competitive cannot be achieved without backlinks at all, at least not for long.

However, low-mid competition terms can be achieved provided the right authority, trust rank and internal linking patterns of your site, without backlinks.

As for duplicate content, yeah, it's a myth. It only applies if you use it in excess within the very same site.

But publishing the content in separate sites will have no negative effect whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Daniel Molano

Define "highly competitive keywords", because the ones that are truly competitive cannot be achieved without backlinks at all, at least not for long.

Hi Daniel,
I would like to see someone actualy define that myself .. Fact is a highly competitive keyword is defined by the person trying to rank for those keywords and everybody will have a difference of opinion on what highly competitive means..

James

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Yes I can rank a weight loss and etc top listing without any backlinks, it all about the resources you use. Again I have proven this already but it would make no sense for me to post the links here. Maybe I will sell the method at some time although I doubt it.

With that said though I have no need to rank any weight loss or anything as I do not deal with affiliate products.

This does not mean you should not build backlinks though as I agree that you should. Backlinks come in many different forms and yes bookmarking is also creating backlinks.

As far as an expert... I do not claim myself to be no expert, no guru, and certainly I do not claim the label of a "marketer" ... I am a website developer that has built 10,000's of websites and I have created many very popular products that sell very well. But I do not believe in "labels".

As for anything else as I have always said "Test" ... This is the best thing you can do to see what works for "YOU"..

James

Hi James,

Thanks you for your reply! I would sincerely hope you would reveal your secret some day, please count me in!

You are humble, I view you as the Guru of something I don't know, hopefully some day I can learn from you.

By now, I see no proof or anything, so I'm gonna still stay with my experience - Getting authority links help you rank.

BTW, I am guessing you are using Auto Blogging method to get traffic and sell stuff, right?

You must already built tons of auto blogging tools that you don't have to build backlinks yourself, and automate all works -

Including:

1. Create site
2. Building content
3. Building links
4. Generating traffic
6. Converting sales....

Just a random guess

Kok Choon

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Hi James,

Thanks you for your reply! I would sincerely hope you would reveal your secret some day, please count me in!

You are humble, I view you as the Guru of something I don't know, hopefully some day I can learn from you.

By now, I see no proof or anything, so I'm gonna still stay with my experience - Getting authority links help you rank.

BTW, I am guessing you are using Auto Blogging method to get traffic and sell stuff, right?

You must already built tons of auto blogging tools that you don't have to build backlinks yourself, and automate all works -

Including:

1. Create site
2. Building content
3. Building links
4. Generating traffic
6. Converting sales....

Just a random guess

Kok Choon

LOL .. You would be surprised at how much I do manually .. I do no auto blogging and etc. I build all my sites myself and I do all the backlinks myself because I participate in the communities I am a member of. I do have my own bookmarking system and a few other tools but I do a great deal manually..

James

[Daniel Molano]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Hi Daniel,
I would like to see someone actualy define that myself .. Fact is a highly competitive keyword is defined by the person trying to rank for those keywords and everybody will have a difference of opinion on what highly competitive means..

James

Hey James,

Simple, anything with over 500,000 exact monthly searches according to the Google Keyword Tool.

Try to rank for that without backlinks.

- Dan

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

LOL .. You would be surprised at how much I do manually .. I do no auto blogging and etc. I build all my sites myself and I do all the backlinks myself because I participate in the communities I am a member of. I do have my own bookmarking system and a few other tools but I do a great deal manually..

James

IC, would really love to learn your secrets... very tempting !