PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search

tjs1903 · 11-18-2009, 08:30 AM

Hi

I have a competitor who's site is No.2 in Google search for a particular keyword, there are no back links and a 0 page rank. I am targeting the same keyword my page rank is 1 and the page has several back links, my site is always below my competitors in search results.

There are 180,000 results for this search term

Is there some sort of traffic generator the competitor might be using to get high rankings?

I am relatively new to this so any advice would be appreciated

kkchoon · 11-18-2009, 10:41 AM

As you said, the site is PR0, most probably new, but they may had a lot of backlinks which you have yet seen.

Try Majestic SEO for more accurate backlinks checking.

youme · 11-18-2009, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkchoon

As you said, the site is PR0, most probably new, but they may had a lot of backlinks which you have yet seen.

Try Majestic SEO for more accurate backlinks checking.

yes agree with kkchoon sometime we cant check backlinks in proper way. Majestic SEO is a good for this.

thecableguy · 11-18-2009, 11:03 AM

It's hard to tell without the URL's, but their on page SEO is probably better than yours or more targeted or themed.

Szise · 11-18-2009, 06:39 PM

Is also possible to use a 301 redirect, moved an old site with authority to a new domain.

dburk · 11-18-2009, 07:06 PM

Hi tjs1903,

Search engines rank pages based upon relevance. PR plays no significant role and backlinks can help but only in the way it effects your page's total relevancy score. The most relevant page wins the ranking game.

The search engines always want to display the most relevant pages first and foremost. If you learn how each of the important SEO factors influence your page's relevancy score you will have an excellent grasp on what it takes to outrank your competitors.

brp002 · 11-18-2009, 07:47 PM

Yes the 301 redirect is probably something that has happened. How old is the persons domain name that might be the issue.

He might have 1 quality backlink that you dont see that is pushing him over the top.

Good luck in your research.

warrior123 · 11-18-2009, 09:45 PM

Really need more info...

- How old is the domain?
- Backlinks might not be showing yet
- As others have mentioned, could be a 301 from another aged domain
- On page SEO could be better optimized than your site

GossipCrunch · 11-18-2009, 10:11 PM

I can say there onpage SEO is better.

sijugk · 11-18-2009, 10:17 PM

I was using backlink watch for finding the possible back links. Thanks for informing about Majestic SEO.

tjs1903 · 11-19-2009, 10:02 AM

Thanks for all the advice

paulgl · 11-19-2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dburk

Hi tjs1903,

Search engines rank pages based upon relevance. PR plays no significant role and backlinks can help but only in the way it effects your page's total relevancy score. The most relevant page wins the ranking game.

The search engines always want to display the most relevant pages first and foremost. If you learn how each of the important SEO factors influence your page's relevancy score you will have an excellent grasp on what it takes to outrank your competitors.

Ya know, if everyone read that first, threads like this would be nonexistent.

Paul

kkchoon · 11-19-2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dburk

Hi tjs1903,

Search engines rank pages based upon relevance. PR plays no significant role and backlinks can help but only in the way it effects your page's total relevancy score. The most relevant page wins the ranking game.

The search engines always want to display the most relevant pages first and foremost. If you learn how each of the important SEO factors influence your page's relevancy score you will have an excellent grasp on what it takes to outrank your competitors.

I would really like to analyst this site. PM me the site and I will run it on majestic SEO, I can give you more details in few days.

tjs1903 · 11-20-2009, 01:51 PM

Thanks for advice. KKCHOON cannot pm you (less than 50 posts) pm your email and i will send you details, appreciate the offer, thanks

11-18-2009, 08:30 AM	#1
tjs1903 Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search Hi I have a competitor who's site is No.2 in Google search for a particular keyword, there are no back links and a 0 page rank. I am targeting the same keyword my page rank is 1 and the page has several back links, my site is always below my competitors in search results. There are 180,000 results for this search term Is there some sort of traffic generator the competitor might be using to get high rankings? I am relatively new to this so any advice would be appreciated

11-18-2009, 10:41 AM	#2
kkchoon Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Online World... Posts: 2,920 Thanks: 96 Thanked 521 Times in 266 Posts	Re: PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search As you said, the site is PR0, most probably new, but they may had a lot of backlinks which you have yet seen. Try Majestic SEO for more accurate backlinks checking.
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thecableguy Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: , , . Posts: 1,186 Thanks: 62 Thanked 92 Times in 84 Posts	Re: PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search It's hard to tell without the URL's, but their on page SEO is probably better than yours or more targeted or themed.

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dburk Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 4,485 Thanks: 137 Thanked 641 Times in 553 Posts Contact Info	Re: PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search Hi tjs1903, Search engines rank pages based upon relevance. PR plays no significant role and backlinks can help but only in the way it effects your page's total relevancy score. The most relevant page wins the ranking game. The search engines always want to display the most relevant pages first and foremost. If you learn how each of the important SEO factors influence your page's relevancy score you will have an excellent grasp on what it takes to outrank your competitors.
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brp002 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 284 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Contact Info	Re: PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search Yes the 301 redirect is probably something that has happened. How old is the persons domain name that might be the issue. He might have 1 quality backlink that you dont see that is pushing him over the top. Good luck in your research.
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warrior123 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 78 Thanks: 21 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Re: PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search Really need more info... - How old is the domain? - Backlinks might not be showing yet - As others have mentioned, could be a 301 from another aged domain - On page SEO could be better optimized than your site

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GossipCrunch Pro Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Web World Posts: 53 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search I can say there onpage SEO is better.

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sijugk Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search I was using backlink watch for finding the possible back links. Thanks for informing about Majestic SEO.
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11-19-2009, 10:02 AM	#11
tjs1903 Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search Thanks for all the advice

11-20-2009, 01:51 PM	#14
tjs1903 Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PR0, 0 backlinks, No.2 in Google search Thanks for advice. KKCHOON cannot pm you (less than 50 posts) pm your email and i will send you details, appreciate the offer, thanks