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Old 12-11-2009, 04:46 AM   #1
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Forum signatures can bring benefits to SEO,

how google treats forum signatures?

Is it worth spending time on forum signatures?

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Old 12-11-2009, 10:39 AM   #2
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Yes, forums signatures are being treated as a vote to your site. However, if the forums are are not related to your site, the links will not give much effect. However, After implementing caffeine, Google made SEO/Webmaster's work very harder than earlier. There are experiments are going on this issue too (Forums signs)
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Sigh.... the forums do not have to be related at all. The link will have the same effect if it's related or not.

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Yes, forums signatures are being treated as a vote to your site. However, if the forums are are not related to your site, the links will not give much effect. However, After implementing caffeine, Google made SEO/Webmaster's work very harder than earlier. There are experiments are going on this issue too (Forums signs)
I don't know what you're talking about, but the caffeine update helps all of my sites. If your work is getting harder, then you're doing it wrong. From your misinformation I can tell you are new to this and are still learning, but please don't lead others astray with misinformation.

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The OP wants to know because s/he's apparently spamming the forum.
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The OP wants to know because s/he's apparently spamming the forum.
LOL... Zing!

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Yes, forums signatures are being treated as a vote to your site. However, if the forums are are not related to your site, the links will not give much effect. However, After implementing caffeine, Google made SEO/Webmaster's work very harder than earlier. There are experiments are going on this issue too (Forums signs)
Relevancy schmelevancy. Here we go again

Note that a link or two from the same forum may help, it has been my experience and many others (read Terry Kyle's 60 day experiment thread), that you just don't get that big of a boost from having a large number of signature links on a single forum.

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Relevancy schmelevancy. Here we go again

Note that a link or two from the same forum may help, it has been my experience and many others (read Terry Kyle's 60 day experiment thread), that you just don't get that big of a boost from having a large number of signature links on a single forum.
Yes, you are right, Having more links from a same domain will not give much effect. But, those can be counted as a VOTE for your site still as far as those links are from different web pages...

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I don't know what you're talking about, but the caffeine update helps all of my sites. If your work is getting harder, then you're doing it wrong. From your misinformation I can tell you are new to this and are still learning, but please don't lead others astray with misinformation.
I do not give any misinformation. What I told is, the forums signature from your NICHE RELATED forums will help you a lot and those will carry more value than the links from the forums which are NOT related to your site. IS THIS MISINFORMATION??? This is the very BASIC thing.

That is true that the after the Google Caffine, there are changes in SERP so, hard workings are underway. Even, it is not easy to get listing on TOP # 10 or TOP# 5 is not easier than earlier. It is harder now. Anyone would agree on this. What do you say
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The OP wants to know because s/he's apparently spamming the forum.

That is so funny! S/he hasn't replied to any comments. 10 posts. Probably already created a new account to work on new keywords in the signature.

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Forum signatures have some value but just like in stocks you need a balanced portfolio. Signature links are just too easy for Google to devalue. The holy grail of backlinking is to get backlinks "in content" . You need to find places to post that you are allowed to leave links in your own produced content. Those are worth FAR more than a signature link. For those that might contend that forum links are great backlinks I'll post the consensus of some of the top experts in SEO

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Forum signatrue ranks nearly at the bottom of the list. Plus too many people and link list builders are just scraping forum software to achieve inflated numbers without realizing how easy it is for Google to devalue the links and at the same time failing to realize that a sites with an abundance of signature links are just dividing the PR value to nothing.

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Yes, you are right, Having more links from a same domain will not give much effect. But, those can be counted as a VOTE for your site still as far as those links are from different web pages...


I do not give any misinformation. What I told is, the forums signature from your NICHE RELATED forums will help you a lot and those will carry more value than the links from the forums which are NOT related to your site. IS THIS MISINFORMATION??? This is the very BASIC thing.

That is true that the after the Google Caffine, there are changes in SERP so, hard workings are underway. Even, it is not easy to get listing on TOP # 10 or TOP# 5 is not easier than earlier. It is harder now. Anyone would agree on this. What do you say

Doesn't seem harder for me to rank at all, my sites went up. Full-blown websites with original content seemed to do well. Landing pages, affiliate sites, and others I can't speak for, but maybe they are getting harder to rank for. So it depends on what sites you are trying to get ranked. Poor quality sites may have a harder time now.

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I think that forum signatures / links will remain to be useful to some degree, as long as the site owner does not decide to use the NOFOLLOW tag.

While I am sure they might not be the best possible link that you can have, they are still worthwhile.

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Yes, you are right, Having more links from a same domain will not give much effect. But, those can be counted as a VOTE for your site still as far as those links are from different web pages...

I do not give any misinformation. What I told is, the forums signature from your NICHE RELATED forums will help you a lot and those will carry more value than the links from the forums which are NOT related to your site. IS THIS MISINFORMATION??? This is the very BASIC thing.
That may be true for some kind of links, or it may have been true at one point, but now all profile links seem to be equal. Of course I can't prove it, but after going for relevant links, then not-so-relevant links I couldn't tell any difference. Just my experience.

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You need to be picky when it comes to forum posts. A lot of forums are moving to NoFollow, which eliminates the value you get from them.
In regards to the "how many backlinks" question, I would think that it would be counted as only one backlink, despite the fact that your link would show up 6 times. I could be wrong here, just my two cents..

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If the forum has the Nofollow attribute, your forum sig wont have mayor benefits, only for marketing purposes and not for SEO.

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While I am not an expert I do not think that this is 100% true. While no pr juice flows through a no follow link google still sees the backlink and counts it as a vote for your site. I have seen more than one backlink show up in my google webmaster tools that were no follow. If google is counting them as a backlink that is good enough for me.

It may well not increase your page rank but it does help in the serps. The two are not the same.

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Default Re: how google treats forum signatures?

So how about this forum? Do you also need to be logged in so that search engine spiders can crawl your links? (Or was the above quote actually a post from the admin of this forum?)
If you stayed logged in all the time, would your links then get crawled?
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Forum signatures are great when your forum's topic match your signature's website but Google is smart at detecting if a link is a forum sig or a website link and thus can easily devalue the links from forums.

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Forum signatures can bring benefits to SEO,

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Ya its worth,participating in dofollow forums helps to increase backlinks and you can improve more number of visitors.

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