would you pay $299 for a dir.yahoo.com backlink?

[loginname]

hey

I've read in the book "Getting on top of google" where he recommend paying $299 for a backlink on dir.yahoo.com.

Have any of you done this? Was it helpful?

In the book he writes that if you don't submit a link in that link diectory you are not serious about IM

But I'm not that easily convinced. In his book I've also read that the effect of a pagerank is diveded by all the outgoing links. So I've dir.yahoo.com got 3000 outgoing links (it's a link directory after all) then it's effective PR8 is PR8/3000 - or so I understand it in my humble mind...

what's your thought/suggestions about this? would you do it? If you have already done it, did it help you?

[ishan]

Well, If I had to spend $299, I'd rather spend it on other marketing methods. While directory is surely good quality, 1 backlink never does any magic! Why not try out services that submit to other directories for low rates?

[loginname]

You mean link linkjuicer.com?

I'm already using that on another niche site. But this is a new niche site I created yesterday, the niche is based on keyword research.

I think that with linkjucier I would have to submit thousands of links if it should have an effect like a backlink from a PR8 site....

But I see what you mean, there are other ways of spending that amount of money. I haven't decided yet...

[Jeff Scott]

The backlink you get from the Yahoo Directory is helpful (we tend to recommend it for our company clients, not affiliates), but the truth is you can get more value out of that same $300 by using a good link building service, social profiles, dozens of written articles, etc. BTW, you'll know once your Yahoo Directory is active since you start to get sales calls from people offering new services

[Brad Gosse]

I have over 150 sites listed this way. I can't tell you how many stories revolve around getting ranked after purchasing a Yahoo directory listing.

My guess is that Google likes them because of their strict quality guidelines and the fact that they are one of the few human edited directories left that can be considered reliable.

[loginname]

Originally Posted by neo_one

not, that for sure.......I would like to find other way rather that yahoo,.... I like google back link..

You got a google backlink? Does it help you?

I've also got a google backlink, was happy having a google backlink and a backlink from a PR10 site... until I discovered that the page within google my link was displayed on didn't have PR10, but PR0 or N/a... On dir.yahoo.com it is PR8

[loginname]

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

I have over 150 sites listed this way. I can't tell you how many stories revolve around getting ranked after purchasing a Yahoo directory listing.

My guess is that Google likes them because of their strict quality guidelines and the fact that they are one of the few human edited directories left that can be considered reliable.

I would like to read those stories

[ishan]

Well, Brad has previous experience and I think that sys it all. The linkback will be worth the money.

[Taylor French]

Would I pay for it? Yes, and I have. But is it worth it? Yes and no.

It's worth it for sites that make an excellent profit by selling their own product. It's good for ecommerce stores, info product sites that I own, etc. It's not really all that good for small article sites, AdSense sites, affiliate sites, etc.

I have tried paying the fee for both types of sites, and it's really only made a difference on the sites that actually sell their own product(s) in my experience.

[ezimedia]

HI

Don't forget... you are paying $299 per year.

Tom

[nostih]

I sure would.........

[Brandon_Walker]

No I definitely wouldn't spend that much on just one backlink! You could use that money and get many more backlinks which would have a greater impact on your search engine rankings than just one backlink from yahoo..

[dondada1]

it sound like you was reading " the SEO mindset" huh?

[deknem17]

I think it's too big price just for one backlink

[WGOHOSTING]

Originally Posted by loginname

I would like to read those stories

me too , whats the secret and what rank you got also traffic?

[hotftuna]

I own about 25 sites. I pay the fee for my two most important sites.

No question it is helpful- only thing is- is it worth it for a particular site.

[bha]

You do not have to be listed in Yahoo directory to get ranked well in Google. I have several sites ranked in the top 3 of Google for their respective keywords and I have never paid $299 for a link from Yahoo.

[AvidAZ]

I haven't tried it. I think I'd rather get some really high quality relevant links for 300 a year than just one. I'd have to see the results.

[GeorgR.]

i was checking my main site/blog yesterday with Website SEO Tool | Website Grader

and low and behold, it is LISTED in the yahoo directory!

Needless to say i never spent money to get into yahoo, neither would i ever pay money for it, let alone per year.

I don't even know how my site made it in there!

[rypher21]

there's other way..i wont pay that much...

[Sylonious]

Originally Posted by Taylor French

It's not really all that good for small article sites, AdSense sites, affiliate sites, etc..

I've seen some sites get around this by submitting their sites to the UK and AU yahoo directories instead. They seem to rank for some pretty competitive terms without much effort.

[jaiganeshv]

Google respects Yahoo so much and then Twitter now

So for longer run the $299 is sure to be a good investment.

Thank you.

[loginname]

I know for example Angela backlinks offer 30 backlinks for $5 each month, that package contain high value backlinks (PR 5 - 10). Creating a backlink on those sites, gives a page rank of 0 or 1 (the PR of the page the backlink is placed on). I've got a .edu backlink and the page my backlink is at has PR1, despite the domain is PR8

Compared this to dir.yahoo.com. main domain is PR8, The page my backlink most likely to appear on at dir.yahoo.com has PR5...

Also checked using SEOSPY that backlinks from this dir.yahoo.com site has much bigger link value than from .edu domain. Maybe because the .edu backlink is placed on PR1 page and dir.yahoo.com backlink is placed in a PR5 page.

Considering signing up for this service

[NewYorkCity]

No, I would put my money into PPC

[paulgl]

As far as I know, it is not a one-time fee, and there is no guarantee.
You will be billed $299 a year.

But I question whether people use the directory?

10 years ago when they had a free service, I got a page in
there. I don't know if it's still there or not.

But I do know that I get listed in yahoo's results, so why should I
sent them $299?

That's not an unreasonable amount to pay for a yearly link, however.
I just sold a year link on one of my sites for $550. But that link is probably
worth more on my site than in yahoo's directory, traffic wise.

Paul

[Scott Rankin]

Like a few others have said, it depends on the website. Some of my clients and I play in some very very competitive niches. The top guys have a ton of domain age, thousands of quality links, and great content. You NEED all the help you can get in those kinds of battle grounds, and a Yahoo link is a lot of help.

For my small mini niche sites, I can hit #1 on Google within a month because there's very little competition to speak of. And the competition isn't well built so it's easy to knock out the guys at the top.

So it is worth it but don't blow money on it unless it's a real quality business you plan on making a lot of money with.

[loginname]

Hmm, i t looks like I cannot make up my mind on this on. Sometimes i want to submit, sometimes think it's not worth it

I have a site which haves about 30.000.000 competing pages for it's main keyword (1.500.000 search per month). keyword without quotes. Created the site before I started to read about keyword research. Now that site has SERP #46, I which I could get the SERP below #15... that's what I'm aiming at

The site is a non-commercial site.

I'm kind of desperate, the goal is to get the site more up on the rankings and receive more traffic. Now it gets about 15 visitors each day (human vistors except myself). I want it be atleast 1500 visitors each month, as then I will implement CPA - and hopefully the site will generate some money for me... It has potential only of it moves up on the rankings.

[loginname]

Originally Posted by Scott Rankin

For my small mini niche sites, I can hit #1 on Google within a month because there's very little competition to speak of. And the competition isn't well built so it's easy to knock out the guys at the top.

you used a dir.yahoo.com listing for this niche site?

[Sara Young]

I use it for important sites as well.

[loginname]

Originally Posted by Sara Young

I use it for important sites as well.

you believe your site moved up the rankings because of that backlink?

[derek4798]

i wouldn't pay that.

[InternetMarketingIQ]

Would you pay $56K for a Cadillac?

The answer is YES if it suits your needs and wants. The Answer is NO if it does not.

[loginname]

Originally Posted by johnbass

You eould probably only do this for your very best sites on a highly competitive niche or a market you want to seriously dominate

This is on a highly competitive niche with around 1500000 search per month. Now I got around 92 backlinks (Angela + backlink booster) and is at SERP #49 (moved 5 places down since yesterday).

My goal is to atleast get my site on page 2 in google. Think even if I'm at that place I might makes some money on CPA. I get about 20 visitors per day from being on page 5, so I reckon page 2 will give a nice increase in traffic.

Haven't decided yet, but I see the sites in top 3 for this keyword is included in the dir.yahoo.com directory

[dotslash]

I use it for my most important sites, every time I've used it I've had a significant boost in SERPS. Don't try comparing it just based on PR from other sites that's completely misleading. Google seems to trust the Yahoo directory a lot, remember links are contextual, from your niche and means yours is a serious site.

Whether it's worth it - obviously depends on the site, your goals, how much money it's likely to generate. In most competitive serious niches you'll probably find the top sites all have a Yahoo Directory listing, it's expensive but way more reliable than results than hundreds of other high Pr links.

I've just paid a similar amount from a really good service for some high PR links from blogs (actual page PR) - I had nowhere near the SERPS boost that I get from a Yahoo listing.

Anyway just my experience, if I'm serious about a site I'd always get it listed, a micro niche or autoblogger I wouldn't actually bother.

Neil

[hotftuna]

I "SEO" for a very competitive niche.

I can tell you that every site on page one for my term, and most on page two, have either a Yahoo listing or a DMOZ listing.

[searchnology]

I think the answer to your question somewhat depends on how competitive your niche is....when one of my sites had very little competition the Yahoo directory did wonders.

Also, I didn't renew the annual fee but my site stayed in the directory anyway.

[jkovats]

I'm still waiting for my DMOZ listing...any tips? I purcheased a yahoo.dir link, and I swear it helped. Shortly thereafer, we jumped to page one. Coincindence? Who knows, but I will do it again next year.

[HappyFeet]

For DMOZ listings, just submit your site for inclusion as per guidelines....
....and wait.
You have to learn to wait and the waiting could be upto 18 months.
No guarantees. You submit and cross your fingers.

[Terry Kyle]

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

I have over 150 sites listed this way. I can't tell you how many stories revolve around getting ranked after purchasing a Yahoo directory listing.

My guess is that Google likes them because of their strict quality guidelines and the fact that they are one of the few human edited directories left that can be considered reliable.

I've wanted to experiment with a $299 (annually) Yahoo Directory link for quite a while and when Tom Goodwin and I recently opened BacklinksForum.com (just over a month ago), we bit the bullet and applied.

The process took about 7 days from application to the link being live (they keep your $299 if they reject you, by the way) and the result?

For the term 'backlinks' which has some pretty strong competitors there including backlink automation systems, the forum went to Page 2 within a day or two of the live Yahoo link. the site was brand new and just 2 weeks old at the time. Google may also favour forums (vb4 in our case) more too as we had tons of pages indexed by that time as well.

We haven't improved on that position yet and the Yahoo Directory doesn't replace a core linkbuilding strategy (unfortunately) but it certainly gave us a LOT of add-on impact (and Trust) quickly in this particular case.

In future, I'll certainly be looking at using the Yahoo Directory for other sites of mine on Page 1 to help bump them to #1 IF I am pretty confident that the site/s will be approved (apparently they hate affiliate link-heavy sites).

I recommend running a 'clean' info-only approach on a site during application and then reverting to your normal Sales Page a week or two after being added (though they may check a cached version of your site, of course).

I have also heard of other YD users NOT renewing their annual subscription and the link remaining intact.

[W2L]

If you had the money I'd say why not!? it wouldn't hurt.... And just like some have said up there ^^^ the "softer the niche" the better the return...

[nimitkashyap]

I would spend the money in buying tools that will help to automate my link building process like scrapebox, the bestspinner etc.

[Sylonious]

I paid the money for one of my domains. The problem is that they have two kinds of listings.

They have the real listing:
General/conditions/acne

And the BS Shopping listing
shopping/goods/conditions/acne

The BS shopping listing doesn't have the same pagerank as the regular listing so you don't get the full benefit of a True Yahoo listing.

[System Wide Solutions]

hmmm... i'm super tempted. i know terry kyle said it helped his backlinkforum.. i tend to trust his judgement.

Question is:

How big of a difference is there between BOTW.org and dir.yahoo.com

[software248]

I think it is something that you shouldnt need to do.
Yahoo Directory is popular and if you get in it you are sure to have better rankings but it is not worth the $299 unless you are filthy rich.

Thanks

[mithil]

Even I was wondering for the same reason.
Being in a SEO company, we too recommend clients for purchasing a Yahoo Directory link but is it really worth?
With this kind of amount, we can surely do some more link building activities which can be more beneficial for the site.

[naughtyneo]

Originally Posted by ThePassiveIncomeBlog

Question is:

How big of a difference is there between BOTW.org and dir.yahoo.com

BOTW sucks. They have been rejecting lot of sites since their Editor "feels" that the "Site lacks substantive unique content", while the same site gets listed in Yahoo directory.

I have recently submitted a blog to their blog directory with all unique content and got rejected saying, my Site lacks substantive unique content. I guess the editor didnot look past the home page of the blog.

[usearchme2]

Hi guys

I do have a few problems with yahoo directory, one thing I would like to say is you dont need it, but it also at the same CAN help.

Yahoo directory staff are probably the most unhelpful you can find, I had to ask them to move my link, from a rediculous section, they moved it but wouldnt edit the description (just flatly refused) very rude !

The problem is you could well end up on a page thats pretty pants, there were 3 pages on the section i ended up at, and i was on the 2nd page, and I wasnt v happy with that.

So really its luck of the draw and dont expect any help from their support if you dont end up where you wanted because you wont get it, btw as someone said above if they refuse ur link they keep your money, which is rediculous !

I recently lost my listing on yahoo as obviously i didnt renew it, and to be honest I didnt notice that much difference

Woc

[packjack]

Botw is just a hype, they pay to their affiliates so that is why you see people talking about them and their flashy banners on other sites and I would never spend $150 every year with them. Instead would use that amount in link building using other stuff. $150 can bring in lot of good link building software's sold at WF and other sites.
Like scrapebox, BMD, uexpress etc

[nettech]

just to put it into perspective, thats 60 articles at $5 each, just imagine how many backlinks you coulx get with those?

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by nettech

just to put it into perspective, thats 60 articles at $5 each, just imagine how many backlinks you coulx get with those?

Well, how many backlinks that are actually worth something could you get from those I don't think 60 EZA articles is going to push one over the top, and spinning the article to lots of worthless sites isn't going to help all that much.