The greatest challenge for Xfactor project?

[simonheng82]

If you are a Xfactor follower and is implementing his course for some time now, what is your biggest challenge then?

Keyword research?
Content creation?
Get indexed the next day?
Generate article?
Getting backlink?

Simon

[carlos123]

I have not been working John's method myself though I do have respect for what he has accomplished but from what I understand his method, like many, relies heavily on getting backlinks through places like ezine.

After thinking about this approach to backlinks a great deal I think ezine is in all frankness a real rip off.

I've decided to create my own ezine like sites to showcase my articles and create my own backlinks. Why not? I mean it makes total sense.

Ezine might give us some incremental traffic initially but in the long run we are all much better off creating our own mini-ezine sites where we write our own articles pointing to our Adsense or other money making sites. Pretty much like what ezine does but where we do it on our own domain.

Just a thought regarding what I would find difficult to do with John's method (i.e. continue to write articles for ezine or places like it).

I would never at this point write as many ezine articles as John's method seems to suggest that we do. I don't like the 90/10 split that happens with ezine. Where they get 90% of the benefit and I end up with the left overs.

Carlos

[whateverpedia]

Originally Posted by simonheng82

If you are a Xfactor follower and is implementing his course for some time now, what is your biggest challenge then?

Keyword research?
Content creation?
Get indexed the next day?
Generate article?
Getting backlink?

Simon

None of the above.

The biggest challenge at the moment is stopping Google from closing your adsense account.

[simonheng82]

Hi Carlos, if you submit the articles to a directory created by yourself, it is not necessary to have the same exposure as EZA did (maybe i am wrong), the main reason in submitting articles to EZA or other authority directories is to stand a chance to be picked up by other webmasters and you get backlinks.......over time, your serp improved not only from the backlink from EZA but also from other sites.

Simon

[carlos123]

Originally Posted by simonheng82

Hi Carlos, if you submit the articles to a directory created by yourself, it is not necessary to have the same exposure as EZA did (maybe i am wrong), the main reason in submitting articles to EZA or other authority directories is to stand a chance to be picked up by other webmasters and you get backlinks.......over time, your serp improved not only from the backlink from EZA but also from other sites.

Interesting...because the only realistic reason I could think of when I first started in on Adsense success that I could think of for submitting ezine articles was for the backlinks. The traffic from ezine is a joke compared to search engine traffic.

But that reason has...well...gone down the drain for me I think given that I can do things so much easier "submitting" articles to my own sites LOL.

Anyway I didn't mean to steer this thread to one about ezine so I will let you all get back to the topic at hand.

Carlos

[Selena85]

I voted for "getting indexed the next day". I use Wordpress and even though I do all the pinging, bookmarking, sitemap stuff, it still takes about 4 - 5 days to get indexed. Sometimes more... I'd love to get my sites indexed in 24 hours, but I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

On a slightly different note, I sort of agree to whateverpedia. I've read some horror stories about adsense shutting down several people recently. I try to make my sites as white hat as possible, but what if I'm breaking some rule I'm not aware of? I've read the TOS, but some rules are rather subjective.

[carlos123]

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

The biggest challenge at the moment is stopping Google from closing your adsense account.

Hmm...well...if us internet marketers didn't try to so often get something for nothing from Google maybe we wouldn't have to contend with that as much.

I mean if we focus on the basics of writing decent content (instead of spinning our way to riches), getting quality backlinks of the kind that an average user might give us if they found our site good to read (instead of trying all these gimmick techniques like blog comment posting with a url in place of our name, ezine article writing...internet marketers mainly do that), 3-way and other way linking schemes, and otherwise didn't engage in tactics Google might find questionable...well...maybe we wouldn't have to worry about getting kicked off by Google as much now would we?

I'm don't lose any sleep at the thought of Google kicking me out. I am not doing anything they would have the slightest objection to. I don't think LOL.

Carlos

[carlos123]

Originally Posted by Selena85

.. I'd love to get my sites indexed in 24 hours, but I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

May I suggest that if you think you are doing something wrong simply because your sites are not indexed in 24 hours...that...well...the only wrong you are doing is thinking you are doing something wrong .

If you get indexed in 2 or 3 days never mind 24 hours you are doing quite well. You must have patience with such matters.

Carlos

[Selena85]

Originally Posted by carlos123

If you get indexed in 2 or 3 days never mind 24 hours you are doing quite well. You must have patience with such matters.

Thanks, Carlos! I see so many people saying they can get indexed in a couple of hours with Wordpress, and how easy it is, that I thought I might be overlooking something!

[Rajan Cajan]

You have to have patience. I do bum marketing and sometimes it takes 7 to 14 days.

[whateverpedia]

Originally Posted by carlos123

I'm don't lose any sleep at the thought of Google kicking me out. I am not doing anything they would have the slightest objection to. I don't think LOL. Carlos

Exactly what I thought until I got their email. Still don't know what terms/conditions I broke. They never told me.

BTW before you jump to any conclusions about what I did or didn't do to get the ban (as you did in your reply). The sites were treat like gold. No spun content. All handwritten by a tertiary educated natural English speaker (Me).

No extensive backlinking. A few articles on high and low PR directories, which were syndicated out to quite a few other sites. A few bookmarks, mostly from others. All whiter than white hat stuff.

Then I got the email...

[Gale10]

Originally Posted by Selena85

I voted for "getting indexed the next day". I use Wordpress and even though I do all the pinging, bookmarking, sitemap stuff, it still takes about 4 - 5 days to get indexed. Sometimes more... I'd love to get my sites indexed in 24 hours, but I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

On a slightly different note, I sort of agree to whateverpedia. I've read some horror stories about adsense shutting down several people recently. I try to make my sites as white hat as possible, but what if I'm breaking some rule I'm not aware of? I've read the TOS, but some rules are rather subjective.

I totally agree with you. There are far too many people saying they can get indexed in 24 hours or less.

They may have done that once, or twice, but I cannot see how they can do it consistantly.

I read recently that the Google spiders go out weekly. So it is quite possible it will take seven days for a site to get indexed. If you are lucky, and you get the spiders visit you at the beginning of their week, then sure you will get indexed in 24 hours.

But I personally have no idea how to get the spiders to come to my sites first, which is what these guys are suggesting.

Also, what is the rush? I appreciate that as soon as the site is up, it starts to make money, but does 3 or 4 days really make that much difference?

I think it is more about us (myself included!) because we want to get on and make things happen! We just need to relax about it a bit, I think.

That's what I am going to do. Well, try and do, anyway.

Best wishes,

Ruth

[carlos123]

Originally Posted by Gale10

I think it is more about us (myself included!) because we want to get on and make things happen! We just need to relax about it a bit, I think.

You got that right!

People sometimes seem to want to make money so fast that anything less than instant money from Adsense is seen as...well...a failure.

Adsense is a long term, viable, business endeavour. It is NOT a way to pay pressing bills coming up on the 1st of the month or feed your family this next week.

If you need money that fast you need to find another line of work for a while or in addition to Adsense until your income stabilizes and/or you can find some way to throw more effort into making money from Adsense.

Seriously.

If you are not into Adsense for the long term and if you are not willing to work at it and work at it and work at it and then work at it some more without seeing a penny of return for your initial efforts you are in the wrong business.

It takes a lot of work no matter what anyone on this forum may say otherwise. For many people Adsense success involved an impossible, unreasonable (or seemingly so) amount of work without pay. While others are out there making a killing at this or that job and making thousands per month the Adsense person (initially) is making zippo. Nada. Nothing.

It's in the long run that the Adsense turtles will surpass the hare. That's the perspective we need to have. We are Adsense turtles plodding along in the race to make internet money. Our aim is tried and true and will allow us to finish the race if we just keep plodding along. Consistentely doing what other Adsense turtles have done before us to finish their races.

But it will take time. It will take work. Lots and lots of work. It will not be easy. And many will quit along the way (all the better for the rest of us who keep at it though I would not purposely wish such a failure in this business to anyone).

An Adsense business is not for everyone. It is a bit on the geeky side incidentally and takes some measure of internet or technical prowess and understanding too. Or it takes a system (like the one XFactor makes available here) that is more or less set up for automatic success if one follows it religiously. But even such a system is a long term thing!

I am not refering to anyone in particular in what I say (unless I explicitly indicate so). Just sharing my thoughts on the matter in general for what they are worth.

Carlos

[carlos123]

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Exactly what I thought until I got their email. Still don't know what terms/conditions I broke. They never told me.

BTW before you jump to any conclusions about what I did or didn't do to get the ban (as you did in your reply). The sites were treat like gold. No spun content. All handwritten by a tertiary educated natural English speaker (Me).

No extensive backlinking. A few articles on high and low PR directories, which were syndicated out to quite a few other sites. A few bookmarks, mostly from others. All whiter than white hat stuff.

Then I got the email...

My apologies if I assumed something I should not have. Seriously.

I do that sometimes and kick myself for doing so every time.

In the final analysis you may have done absolutely nothing wrong by Google. Google is by no means perfect. Sometimes they are as downright nasty as the next company their motto of "do no evil" notwithstanding.

The best we may be able to hope for is that Google will not slap us down before we start the money rolling with Adsense such that we can then diversify and not become so dependent on Google.

I mean they are not entirely capricious either.

But as you seem to have experienced...Google can end up closing down anyone for no discernable reason at all sometimes.

It happens. It's unfortunate. It's sad. It's grossly unfair. But there is little that we can sometimes do about it.

Though I have heard that if we are patient and go over with our sites with a fine tooth comb and ask for a reconsideration that banned accounts have indeed been reinstated.

I guess it depends on how much we are willing to wait and work to get back into their good graces.

I know that just as soon as I start making some decent income from Adsense I will begin to diversify so that I am not so entirely dependent on Google.

Again my sincerest condolescences on the death of your Google account. Hopefully they will listen to your continued pleas for fairness (if indeed you are pursuing the reinstatement of your account).

What I said I said from the perspective that in my extensive reading about Adsense in the last few months...the majority of people who get banned by Google are banned because they got too internet markety on Google.

At least that appears to be the case.

Like you said...you may not fall into that category at all and I am again sorry if I assumed things about your ban that may not have been true of you in particular.

Carlos

[euhlir]

The hardest part for me is making the content on the site. I don't do run of the mill reviews and crap info. I make my sites quality so that if a human reviewer were to look at one of my sites, they'd see the value in it, and how my site deserves to rank high based on my relevance and the true value my site brings to human visitors.

[apollocreed]

Originally Posted by Selena85

I voted for "getting indexed the next day". I use Wordpress and even though I do all the pinging, bookmarking, sitemap stuff, it still takes about 4 - 5 days to get indexed. Sometimes more... I'd love to get my sites indexed in 24 hours, but I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

I can never quite understand this. You plan to have your site for several years, why do you need to get it indexed within 1 day?

Wait 1 week, and your site will always get indexed. Assuming your site makes an average of $1 to start of, that 1 week lost will have lost you $5.

How much time are you wasting to try to save that $5?

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Gale10

I totally agree with you. There are far too many people saying they can get indexed in 24 hours or less.

They may have done that once, or twice, but I cannot see how they can do it consistantly.

It really is not that hard. Obviously sites don't always get indexed fast, but I can certainly get >75% of my new wordpress sites indexed (at least the main page) within 24 hours. It isn't rocket science, just a combination of pinging, digg, clipmarks, and RSS feed distribution.

I really don't care if people believe it or not, but that has been true for my last 50 sites.

[Tom Goodwin]

Good luck.

Note though that the purpose of putting up articles on EZA isn't for the pass-through traffic from the readers of those articles, it is to get the significant link juice you get from having EZA backlinks. You just don't get that kind of juice with your own article directory.

Originally Posted by carlos123

I have not been working John's method myself though I do have respect for what he has accomplished but from what I understand his method, like many, relies heavily on getting backlinks through places like ezine.

After thinking about this approach to backlinks a great deal I think ezine is in all frankness a real rip off.

I've decided to create my own ezine like sites to showcase my articles and create my own backlinks. Why not? I mean it makes total sense.

Ezine might give us some incremental traffic initially but in the long run we are all much better off creating our own mini-ezine sites where we write our own articles pointing to our Adsense or other money making sites. Pretty much like what ezine does but where we do it on our own domain.

Just a thought regarding what I would find difficult to do with John's method (i.e. continue to write articles for ezine or places like it).

I would never at this point write as many ezine articles as John's method seems to suggest that we do. I don't like the 90/10 split that happens with ezine. Where they get 90% of the benefit and I end up with the left overs.

Carlos

[Craig McPherson]

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

Good luck.

Note though that the purpose of putting up articles on EZA isn't for the pass-through traffic from the readers of those articles, it is to get the significant link juice you get from having EZA backlinks. .

I think a few people struggle to understand this. Article marketing is not solely done for traffic. Some of us use a portion of our articles for the single reason of getting the backlinks from both EZA and the publishers that scrape EZA for articles.

For example, I found a niche in the health sector that is virually untapped believe it or not. I know jack shyte about the subject but I do know a lot about other subjects.

Writing an article on a subject I know allows me to pump out many articles per day. No wasting time on research etc. I can put my head down and write an article in 6-8 minutes because I know the subject. All I do is leave a link to my health sector site and bingo. Links coming my way.

Then other publishers reprint my article on their site and there are more backlinks.

[simonheng82]

HI Craig, you exactly speak out my mind and i guess this is also the main intention of John?

Simon

[Gale10]

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

It really is not that hard. Obviously sites don't always get indexed fast, but I can certainly get >75% of my new wordpress sites indexed (at least the main page) within 24 hours. It isn't rocket science, just a combination of pinging, digg, clipmarks, and RSS feed distribution.

I really don't care if people believe it or not, but that has been true for my last 50 sites.

I don't disbelieve that it happens but I just don't see how.....

No offence meant, sorry.

Ruth

[Kay King]

The main problem with the flood of people trying to follow the work John does is that they do not have the patience to do it. They don't want to write lots of articles, they want instant indexing and expect their site to rank high quickly.

They fuss over analytics and try to manipulate anything they can to push the new sites - and end up disappointed. They shortcut the site building, do the lowest amount of work possible - and complain "this method doesn't work".

Fast indexing isn't important - if you build a site right it will be indexed. You are not going to build a quick 5-10 page site and have it shoot to the top of the google ranks. It may seem to be at the top right after indexing - but that's only because google hasn't place the site in the ranking yet.

Some sites will do well - some won't. Those that show potential should be added to and taken care of.

do the research - build the site - do the work

then do it again and again

The world could end tomorrow - but that doesn't mean we do nothing today. You could lose an adsense account (though most are lost for a reason I'm sure google does make errors) - but is that a reason to do nothing?

Adsense is not a magic fix. There's a lot of drudge work that many people aren't willing to do. Jumping on a method because someone else does well with it is only a good idea if the method itself is something you enjoy and have an interest in. If you are only cloning someone else rather than applying your own twist and style, you won't have the best results.

If you are afraid of what might happen - or don't want to work that hard - choose another marketing method. There are successful marketers who never submit articles to directories - some who never build lists - some who never use adsense. They do what works for them.

What John does is not new or revolutionary - and he says so. What he provides is a plan of action and it takes time to get it right and make it profitable.

kay

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Kay King

The main problem with the flood of people trying to follow the work John does is that they do not have the patience to do it. They don't want to write lots of articles, they want instant indexing and expect their site to rank high quickly.

They fuss over analytics and try to manipulate anything they can to push the new sites - and end up disappointed. They shortcut the site building, do the lowest amount of work possible - and complain "this method doesn't work".

Fast indexing isn't important - if you build a site right it will be indexed. You are not going to build a quick 5-10 page site and have it shoot to the top of the google ranks. It may seem to be at the top right after indexing - but that's only because google hasn't place the site in the ranking yet.

Some sites will do well - some won't. Those that show potential should be added to and taken care of.

do the research - build the site - do the work

then do it again and again

The world could end tomorrow - but that doesn't mean we do nothing today. You could lose an adsense account (though most are lost for a reason I'm sure google does make errors) - but is that a reason to do nothing?

Adsense is not a magic fix. There's a lot of drudge work that many people aren't willing to do. Jumping on a method because someone else does well with it is only a good idea if the method itself is something you enjoy and have an interest in. If you are only cloning someone else rather than applying your own twist and style, you won't have the best results.

If you are afraid of what might happen - or don't want to work that hard - choose another marketing method. There are successful marketers who never submit articles to directories - some who never build lists - some who never use adsense. They do what works for them.

What John does is not new or revolutionary - and he says so. What he provides is a plan of action and it takes time to get it right and make it profitable.

kay

Kay I couldn't have said it better myself, thank you.

As to the OP:

1) I've been at this going on 5 years now.

2) I do not worry about getting indexed fast.

3) I'm a writer, and so I enjoy this business. If I could not come up
with content creation - I'd be in another business model.

4) I take the slow road with backlinking, which is why I like article marketing. Most
of my greatest backlinks come from articles that were written months, even years
ago.

5) Failure is a necessary part of being successful with long-term content publishing.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by clade

With all due respect, I beg to differ.

No need to beg. I find it commendable that you have your own
approach. Free thinker - I wish everyone was like that.

That's what I try to get people to do in my book and when helping
with advice - to try to find their own way in the pool of IM.

P.S - I outsource heavily these days, by the way.

- John

[supamanjon]

Since i'm kinda new to this forum I see a lot of good reviews on x factor's ebook and i was wondering (x factor) if u give a discount on the ebook to warriorforum members? plz shoot me a pm

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by supamanjon

Since i'm kinda new to this forum I see a lot of good reviews on x factor's ebook and i was wondering (x factor) if u give a discount on the ebook to warriorforum members? plz shoot me a pm

Thanks for asking, but the discount was limited months ago for a specific
number of people and I have to keep my promise to those customers
and maintain the regular price.

I'm also in the middle of revising and adding a ton of information to the
book, so if you do purchase it the revision and new videos will be free
to you as a customer.

- John

[simonheng82]

Originally Posted by XFactor

No need to beg. I find it commendable that you have your own
approach. Free thinker - I wish everyone was like that.

That's what I try to get people to do in my book and when helping
with advice - to try to find their own way in the pool of IM.

P.S - I outsource heavily these days, by the way.

- John

Hi John,
Thanks for all your valuable comment in this thread, would you mind to share how many sites you are running now and how much of money you are making per day?

Is your health blog still doing well?

Simon