Have You Been Effected By The "Google Dance"

[maco]

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone on this forum has been effected by "Google Dance".I have built a website and initially individual pages were ranking good and were on first Google result page. Than after I started building links to them their rating dropped and now some of them are on 37 Google position. However, some of the pages I didn't build links for are still on the first page. Has anyone had this experience and did the pages eventually returned back to the first Google page.

Thanks

[coog]

I started building links on a 3 year old site I have just a few months ago, after putting about 30 backlinks across 3 day's my site dropped completely off the map for about 3 weeks. When it did come back I lost rank on my number 1 keyword (the one I used for backlinking) from top of page 2 (number 11) to page 5 somewhere. I was very bummed :-(

On the flip side I also started backlinking another site at the same time (a new site) and it's on page one for my keyword and never dropped out.

[Tony Dean]

Google is totally unfathomable. I have thousands of backlinks out there for many sites, it does not seem to affect Google one bit for traffic or ranking.

No I tend to ignore Myths ...

James

[maco]

Originally Posted by coog

I started building links on a 3 year old site I have just a few months ago, after putting about 30 backlinks across 3 day's my site dropped completely off the map for about 3 weeks. When it did come back I lost rank on my number 1 keyword (the one I used for backlinking) from top of page 2 (number 11) to page 5 somewhere. I was very bummed :-(

On the flip side I also started backlinking another site at the same time (a new site) and it's on page one for my keyword and never dropped out.

Thanks coog,
Yes Google is very unpredictable, I have built back links for friend's website and got it on first Google page and it has been there since, I just cannot work it out.

[HCLee]

Yes I used Angela's backlinks and I often get the Google dance. Sometimes the position dropped quite a bit and at times completely disappeared for a few days but it always reappears in my SERP. The important thing is to continue backlink building during the period that the Google dance takes place.

[euhlir]

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone on this forum has been effected by "Google Dance".I have built a website and initially individual pages were ranking good and were on first Google result page. Than after I started building links to them their rating dropped and now some of them are on 37 Google position. However, some of the pages I didn't build links for are still on the first page. Has anyone had this experience and did the pages eventually returned back to the first Google page.

Thanks

Yeah I have had this same experience. Sometimes my site falls back even further, but the important thing is that it usually comes back in 3-7 days even stronger.

[2d0k]

One of my site's pages which I tried building back links to went from page 10 to page 2 within 3 days. However, as I continued to build back links to it, the page went to page 3 for about 2 days.. It is now still in page 2 despite building back links continuously.. Don't know when I'll breach page one with it.. I'll still continue building back links to it though without regard whether or not it will experience the Google Dance..

[bigcat1967]

Hey guys - the "google dance" hasn't existed for six years. I don't know why everyone is saying that.

btw...here's a good article to read about why rankings are not a good way to measure success - 5 Reasons Why Rankings Are A Poor Measure Of Success

[Zeus66]

Understand too that Google is in the midst of rolling out their new algorithm (Caffeine). This is undoubtedly monkeying with the SERPs, and probably will for some time to come.

Here's a good article about some of the apparent changes in this new algo: SiteProNews: Google Caffeine and The New Ranking Factors

I think backlinks will be downplayed, while things like bounce rates, page loading speed, and quality of content will rise in terms of importance. Maybe the most interesting part of this to me is that the author surmises that Google might be giving more weight to social bookmarks. I don't know why they would, since in my opinion that's almost as easy to artificially inflate as any other backlinking scheme, including buying links. I think Google screwed themselves up by focusing so heavily on links as votes. They never really were except in a tiny % of cases. I can remember doing link exchanges for the purposes of artificially gaining higher rankings before Google was a household name. If Google's truly trying to give its users the best choices first when they do a search, it's always been about the content on the page. Nothing else can possibly be as important.

[maco]

Originally Posted by Zeus66

Understand too that Google is in the midst of rolling out their new algorithm (Caffeine). This is undoubtedly monkeying with the SERPs, and probably will for some time to come.

Here's a good article about some of the apparent changes in this new algo: SiteProNews: Google Caffeine and The New Ranking Factors

I think backlinks will be downplayed, while things like bounce rates, page loading speed, and quality of content will rise in terms of importance. Maybe the most interesting part of this to me is that the author surmises that Google might be giving more weight to social bookmarks. I don't know why they would, since in my opinion that's almost as easy to artificially inflate as any other backlinking scheme, including buying links. I think Google screwed themselves up by focusing so heavily on links as votes. They never really were except in a tiny % of cases. I can remember doing link exchanges for the purposes of artificially gaining higher rankings before Google was a household name. If Google's truly trying to give its users the best choices first when they do a search, it's always been about the content on the page. Nothing else can possibly be as important.

Thanks Zeus66,
That was very good post to understand the new Google rules. Any more info on weather Caffeine has been activated and more info on how it is going to change the ranking and positioning?

[THY]

I believe it is normal for newly created websites that has just been added to google index to experience a huge jump and later drops down the ranking. Usually it is called a temporary boost. As for established websites, we have also seen a google dance but that was more notable few months ago when serp position was bouncing up and down like crazy. Well, at least, lately serp ranking has been more stable but who knows when it will happen again.

[ready4anything]

Zeus66 is defo right about google downgrading backlinks. Seems like backlinking will become a useless method of SEO in the near future. I'm sure I read somewhere recently that they were taking page loading times and web 2.0 content as priority when page ranking.

[Fernando Veloso]

Originally Posted by ready4anything

Zeus66 is defo right about google downgrading backlinks. Seems like backlinking will become a useless method of SEO in the near future. I'm sure I read somewhere recently that they were taking page loading times and web 2.0 content as priority when page ranking.

So, we just create blank pages with no pictures, blast 2K social media links and profiles and we're #one?

Talk about downgrading backlinks.

[knowing25]

Maybe Google want to give other site chance for getting in 1st position in your niche, and i hope you not doing somethings that google hate it.