Profiles Link building Best Practices?

[Daniel McGonagle]

That definitely can't hurt things but also raises the forum owners' awareness of you, so if you're on the butchfemme.com forum and your forum sig file and bio has man's name in it then raising their awareness of you will have opposite of desired effects.

These sites that we're posting profiles info on are high PR, and probably high traffic sites and have trust rank with the SEs...

What all that translates into is... your profile links should get picked up by the search engines without you having to do anything that brings you out from under the radar.

Is your WF profile indexed? YES
How about your EZA author profile? YES
Hub author profile? YES
Facebook, YES
Twitter, YES
LinkedIn, YES

etc......

Did you do anything to get them indexed?

Probably not, so case closed

Originally Posted by teatree

Regarding the "I have put up 100 profile links, why are only 3 of them showing up in the backlink searches" question, I have a theory, and it's all to do with internal backlinking.

With most forums, the point is to post in the forum. And everytime you post, there is a link from the forum post back to your profile, via the name in the left hand sidebar.

Remember that forum threads get indexed as well as the forum profiles. So the more you post in the forum, the more internal backlinks are created to your profile, and the stronger the profile becomes. If you just set up a profile and don't post, then there is nothing supporting the profile, and it's unlikely to count for much.

So once you have set up your profiles, then pick a few of the forums and start posting to ensure the profile strengthens.

Yes it's time consuming, but it's your classic time spent v benefit gained scenario. If you spend 5 hours building 100 profiles and only 3 are recognised, you arn't doing as well as someone who spent 5 hours and built 10 profiles by hand (including posting in the forum) and got them all indexed.

[Dan.Thies]

Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle

(Dan Thies says don't bother with that, profiles urls get indexed pretty much on their own...is your warrior profile indexed?)

Ummm... not sure I'd put it that way.

If a profile page is getting indexed, then you probably have other things that are a higher priority. Profiles are often indexed, and actually filling out the profile with some words about yourself etc helps a lot.

You can check indexing at Google by doing an info: search on the URL - like this:
info:View Profile: DanThies

Direct link to that search result - and yes, my Warrior Forum profile is indexed:
info:http://www.warriorforum.com/members/dan-thies.html - Google Search

Sometimes, profiles are not indexed - sometimes they're even blocked with a robots meta tag, sometimes they have nofollow in the robots meta tag, or on the links.

But if the profile can be indexed, then it probably just needs links pointing to it.

The easiest way to get links to your profile on any site is to do more than just create an account - by actually participating in the community you're trying to get links from.

In the Warrior Forum, and in most communities, that means posting in the member discussion areas. Every time you post, the page the post is on has a link to your profile - right there next to your post.

But if you're going to manufacture pages (profiles) that have no links to them, and then go build links to them, I hope you're not doing anything that costs much in time and effort, because if you have to work for the links to your links, you might as well just get links to your actual web site.

[sarasayshi]

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

(3) use a male name, not a female name. All of us men are pervs. I am convinced that men are about 10x more likely to click on a female username's profile out of curiousity than a man's name.

Crap! I've been doing female names for the last 150 profiles I created. lol Well, glad I am reading this now.

[Graemewhi]

Quote: " Jacob might be seeing decreasing rate of returns if he's getting backlinks from all these same IP to sites hosting on same IP, who knows? "



This analysis seems to be correct,my testing receives the same results,that is getting backlinks to the same site every week from the same link sites by using LL for example(that is packages such as Angela,s) decrease in effect as you add them or even discounted ,meaning the new links added are worth nothing .

[dagaul101]

I would stick with manual as opposed to automated, no matter what you do, the web admin can always figure out that in no way did you just sign up and fill in your profile complete with url in that short amount of time

[pauljyron]

I could be 10 times better on SEO if I keep on reading these kind of threads, thanks everyone!

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by DaveJohnson

I'm been hearing about profile backlinking for a while now. Like you I've made some reading about this but I can't still find the kind of site that I can do profile backlinks. Can any one list the sites that can perform profile backlinks.

Forums and community sites. There are >100,000 sites to choose from. If you are allowed to create a profile, are allowed to put a link on your profile, and the profile is viewable when you are logged out (so Googlebot can read it), then that is a profile backlink. Warriorforum profiles is one

[yukon]

The way I do my profile backlinks, in this order:

1) Create profile, add backlink as soon as I get the confirm email.

2) Create a few forum profiles, maybe about 5 (all different TLDs).

3) Go to Yahoo Explorer, get all the backlinks for my own domain.

When YE returns the results I sort by show links except from this domain, this gives me a list of my backlinks from external sites.

4) Grab the 1st backlink in step #3, that should be the highest PR site/page in my list of backlinks.

5) Go to my high PR6 site/page that I use for backlinking. I post a comment on the PR6 site/page (about a paragraph) inside this comment every bit of the punctuation is a seperate backlink. Each backlink points to one of my forum profile pages.

In this example the one PR6 comment will include 5 backlinks.

The reason I do this (backlink my backlinks) is to get G to cache the forum profiles faster.

If I have a G cache, then G knows about my profile anchor-text.

This works great for me, I'm getting profiles cached in less than 24 hours after signup, since the high PR6 site/page gets a lot of crawls from G.

[Airwolf]

Originally Posted by yukon

The way I do my profile backlinks, in this order:

1) Create profile, add backlink as soon as I get the confirm email.

2) Create a few forum profiles, maybe about 5 (all different TLDs).

3) Go to Yahoo Explorer, get all the backlinks for my own domain.

When YE returns the results I sort by show links except from this domain, this gives me a list of my backlinks from external sites.

4) Grab the 1st backlink in step #3, that should be the highest PR site/page in my list of backlinks.

5) Go to my high PR6 site/page that I use for backlinking. I post a comment on the PR6 site/page (about a paragraph) inside this comment every bit of the punctuation is a seperate backlink. Each backlink points to one of my forum profile pages.

In this example the one PR6 comment will include 5 backlinks.

The reason I do this (backlink my backlinks) is to get G to cache the forum profiles faster.

If I have a G cache, then G knows about my profile anchor-text.

This works great for me, I'm getting profiles cached in less than 24 hours after signup, since the high PR6 site/page gets a lot of crawls from G.

Hi yukon,

Thanks for the great tip.

Btw, may I know what are TLDs?

[nicefirework]

My experience creating 60s link profile, only 4 link show up in Google webmaster tool. I suggest this because i use the same link to my site. Varying anchor will be my next project.

I also notice that if i built link like crazy, 60s profile a day my traffic also increase in the day when i create that links. But the later day, my traffic back to normal as before i created it, even lower. Does google treate it as even base link? such as 4 july moment etc?

[Spot the Ball]

When you build profile links you are not looking for traffic from those links, quite the opposite, you actually want to stay under the radar of anyone seeing those links so they have a better chance of sticking.

Also, in my experience it hasnt matter if they show up in yahoo as indexed or not, you can easily see the effects of them working, especially on newer sites when you get some huge boosts propelling your page up the rankings.

The effects wont be as noticable as you climb the rankings as the competition gets tougher.

Just keep doing them, they work

Originally Posted by nicefirework

My experience creating 60s link profile, only 4 link show up in Google webmaster tool. I suggest this because i use the same link to my site. Varying anchor will be my next project.

I also notice that if i built link like crazy, 60s profile a day my traffic also increase in the day when i create that links. But the later day, my traffic back to normal as before i created it, even lower. Does google treate it as even base link? such as 4 july moment etc?

[yukon]

Originally Posted by Airwolf

Hi yukon,

Thanks for the great tip.

Btw, may I know what are TLDs?

Top-level domain (TLD)

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nicefirework,

Don't worry about Google Webmaster Tools (GWT), that has got to be the slowest tool to update that G owns, well besides Pagerank.

If your backlink is included on the backlink pages G cache, your backlink is working.

[marky12345]

Originally Posted by Jacob Martus

I can answer as to the question about only using profile links with two answers.

1.) 3 months ago, I was relying on nothing but profile backlinks and it worked very well initially...however I notice that if I do not continually build these profiles my rankings suffer and they suffer quickly. The competition was medium to high competition and decent search volume, around 5000 exact match per month.

2.) Lately, I'm talking in the last two weeks, I am seeing very little benefit from my profile link building. Now this could be for a few reasons which I will list below:

1.) My link profile is too highly saturated with profile backlinks.
2.) Caffeine has discounted the value on these profile backlinks.
3.) Not varying my anchor text enough??? (this one goes against what angela advises in her packet. She says to only target one keyword phrase for the best results. However I am pretty much convinced that it is 100% necessary to use different anchor text but all targeting the same product. For example I'll use LG rumor phone. If I only use one anchor text of buy LG rumor phone for too long, the profile backlinks seem to have less and less effect. However, now that I started using 2 to 3 different anchor texts, (i.e. LG rumor, spring rumor phone) <--- purely an example. I have been seeing better results varying the anchor text lately.

Those are the only 3 reasons that I can think of that my profile links aren't as powerful as they were 2 to 3 months ago.

I would also advise that you fill out every single part of the profile that you can whether it be with your real name or an alias. I always put as much info in there as I can along with a picture. This makes the profile look much less spammy and when combined with only 1 or 2 at most backlinks, my profiles stick very well. I put the links in immediately but I always have an expansive profile including a picture. It's really hard to even notice the backlinks on some profiles if you have all the extra info filled out. Also I think a webmaster that sees a completed profile is less likely to spot the backlinks or think they are as spammy.

These are all just purely opinion. I have found that varying my backlinking strategy between profile backlinks, dofollow blog comments, and web 2.0 sites has shown the best results both in movement in the SERPS and with sticking at the position that I achieve.

Hope that answered some questions without being too confusing. I'm not the best at laying things out clearly on here...because I'm usually in a hurry with posting.

I was playing about with profile backlinks at one point and got a blast built towards a post on a Blogtalkradio blog I control. The page got a page rank of 2 in like 1 month and ranked very well. I didnt do anything else to it except one more blast a little while after but now it does rank ANYWHERE for its keywords and the page rank has now gone.

I think you have to be consistant with your profile linking if you wanted to use it as your only stratergy but I would recommend it to anyone.

You need a varied link profile, the more relevant the better!

[theseoguys]

It's nice to read a constructive thread like this once and a while. I have built 1000's this way. But the best way to get them to stick, is diversify, i.e. don't invest in one forum, in case you get banned, or the forum changes their policies and removes links, and finally, contribute something to each forum. You can help others, and help yourself at the same time. There must be a foum out there for every known subject that appeals to someone somewhere.

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[jabroon]

What is the Allure of Profile Links?
The reason so many people like them is that they are a link from a very high authority site. Many of these links reside on PR6, PR7 and even some PR8 and PR9 sites – very high PR sites. Now the actual page that your link sits on will not be a PR7, it will be a PR0, but it is still a link from a high authority site and that counts. Does it really? Yes, it does and yes profile links work. This approach of using the authority of the site to pass authority to your site even though the page rank of the individual hosted page is low is the same basic concept that makes Build My Rank and Linkvana work so well. With both of those networks your post is also not a PR4 post either, it just sits on a site that is PR4. But we can tell you after sending thousands of links through both Build My Rank and Linkvana that they are both very effective and profile links work on the same basic concept – site authority.
There is another concept called “trustrank” and it refers to this concept of the authority and trust of your site. Just think of it as the amount of trust and credence that Google gives your site. Now, think logically from Google’s perspective. If you have a bunch of links from spam sites or a bunch of links from Adobe.com, which is going to pass more “trust” to your site? Sure the PR of the Adobe.com links is low, but hey, it’s still a link from Adobe.com. That’s how this works. These profile links come from authority and trusted sites and some of that authority and trust is conveyed back to your site as well. Profile links should definitely be a part of your linkbuilding profile and a tool in your linkbuilding arsenal.

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