Angela's and Johnsons Backlinks Are Good But Not Woking Much For Me

[Oling]

I use Angela's and Johnsons's backlinks packages for all my backlinking strategy and it used to work nicely for me. And sometime ago i read it here that some of the backlinks are not working after a few days.
Does simply work later or something is really ruining these sites by spamming them and thus ruin Angela's and Johnson's packages?
I am really lost as I do not know what is going on.... Can anyone here tell me anything about so I know what to do. But I would still need to use these packages as they are good except for some and hopefully those who are using it like me should know more on how to use it wisely...

Any advice on something I can use too?

Thanks
Oling

[James Foster]

You want to have multiple strategies for backlinks, getting them all from one method or source will always lead to problems. If you need another solution check out other WSOs, there are a lot of different SEO strategies you can use.

[itlnoor]

Angela and Johnson have a great strategy. but we must understand that Link building is not just profile link building. We must use all available strategies to come up with a perfect solution. Success of Link building differ with every site and every strategy

[Oling]

I have already look into the WSO offers but I just cannot trust some of them or I simply don't how good they are.
Yes it's true that Angela's and Johnson's are still good and that is my personal view. But the thing the gives me concern is some warriors who are saying negative about it.
Are they really true?

Thanks
oling

[tjcocker]

Don't just go by what other people say. Try different things and test it out for yourself. If you believe only what a few people tell you, then you're probably missing out on a lot of other things.

[james kirk]

I've heard mixed reviews of that particular technique...

[jitterbug978]

I gather my own list of 5,000+ do-follow high pr sites that allow profiles.

Works a lot better!

[WealthWithin]

Here's why they work.

When you create an account, your profile name gets displayed on the homepage of that forum as a 'new member'. Since you're not going to create any posts, you will have a very limited time on this exposure. If the time is right, and the GBot happens to be crawling that site at that moment, you will get the link juice, and PR will flow to your site.

Here's why they don't work,
The GBot crawls most forums each 1-2 days. If you create 100's of these profile links, just by the sheer volume of exposure, you will hit the GBot and will get some link juice.

That's why it works for some and not for others.

[TrafficMystic]

Originally Posted by Oling

I have already look into the WSO offers but I just cannot trust some of them or I simply don't how good they are.
Yes it's true that Angela's and Johnson's are still good and that is my personal view. But the thing the gives me concern is some warriors who are saying negative about it.
Are they really true?

Thanks
oling

You need to check out trusted warriors who are known for producing good materials and links.. one such warrior is 'terry kyle'

[gtt]

Agree with you ITLNOOR

Never had a problem with regards to working on Angela's and Johnson's links. Been getting positive results on them for a quite sometime now.

"The best strategy you make, the best results you may get"



Gerry

[halfpoint]

Originally Posted by WealthWithin

Here's why they work.

When you create an account, your profile name gets displayed on the homepage of that forum as a 'new member'. Since you're not going to create any posts, you will have a very limited time on this exposure. If the time is right, and the GBot happens to be crawling that site at that moment, you will get the link juice, and PR will flow to your site.

Here's why they don't work,
The GBot crawls most forums each 1-2 days. If you create 100's of these profile links, just by the sheer volume of exposure, you will hit the GBot and will get some link juice.

That's why it works for some and not for others.

Sorry, but that is wrong.

It's not a case of creating as many as you can and just hoping that Google crawls them.

Many people who focus on profile linking, like myself, make sure that Google crawls these links and indexes them.

They are just like any other web page, send more links to them and make the search engines crawl and index them.

Create RSS feeds from your links, bookmark them, ping them, create web 2.0 pages that link back to them if you have to.

Creating a plethora of profiles and then doing nothing other than just hoping they get indexed sounds like a huge time waster to me.

[jazbo]

And me of course Steve ;-)

Profile links, just like commenting, bookmarking, content generation, article writing etc etc etc etc, are all ONE PART of a linkbuilding strategy.

Mix it up, do something of everything, do it constantly, and know the tricks to get the links indexed.

Originally Posted by TrafficMystic

You need to check out trusted warriors who are known for producing good materials and links.. one such warrior is 'terry kyle'

[ARVolund]

I think the main problem with any of the lists is that some people do not use them wisely by posting obviously over the top spam on them which ruins it for everyone.

I have taken a somewhat different path to using the lists and while it is a bit more work the stick rate of my profiles is much higher this way.

First off I sit on the list for three or four weeks before using it. This allows the spammers to screw things up so that when I start creating accounts one or two things have happened. Either the accounts now have to be manually approved or the moderators have already gone through and cleaned things up a bit after the initial rush. If the accounts have to be manually approved I just move on.

Then I create an account by filling out all the info (including a pict) but with no links or anything remotely spammy in the profile at all. I then let it sit at least two-three weeks to give the moderator plenty of time to check it out and let it fall off the radar. Only then do I go back and include a link and even then I keep it to one and make sure it does not look like spam.

Doing it this way does take a little more time but the last couple of months my stick rate has been well over 90%. The time spent on each profile is more but since there is a lot less time wasted on profiles that are being deleted the time spent on each successful profile is not really much higher.

[James Ross]

As much as I love this method you need to have a lot of "irons in the fire" if you want to be successful. Don't rely on this method alone.

[Heidi White]

Originally Posted by ARVolund

I think the main problem with any of the lists is that some people do not use them wisely by posting obviously over the top spam on them which ruins it for everyone.

I have taken a somewhat different path to using the lists and while it is a bit more work the stick rate of my profiles is much higher this way.

First off I sit on the list for three or four weeks before using it. This allows the spammers to screw things up so that when I start creating accounts one or two things have happened. Either the accounts now have to be manually approved or the moderators have already gone through and cleaned things up a bit after the initial rush. If the accounts have to be manually approved I just move on.

Then I create an account by filling out all the info (including a pict) but with no links or anything remotely spammy in the profile at all. I then let it sit at least two-three weeks to give the moderator plenty of time to check it out and let it fall off the radar. Only then do I go back and include a link and even then I keep it to one and make sure it does not look like spam.

Doing it this way does take a little more time but the last couple of months my stick rate has been well over 90%. The time spent on each profile is more but since there is a lot less time wasted on profiles that are being deleted the time spent on each successful profile is not really much higher.

Brilliant. How do you keep track of which sites to go back to?

[ARVolund]

I use an excel file. I have columns for the date, domain,url, username, password, etc and that makes it easy to keep track of them.

The column with the domain in it I just have the domain without any http or www so that I can sort them alphabetically to make sure I am not doubling up on any domains as I do subscribe to some lists and I find quite a few of my own. They are actually fairly easy to find it is just time consuming.

The url is the url of the profile itself, I can just click on it and if it comes up ok then I go ahead and login and create the link, if it comes up deleted I just move onto the the next one.

[tjcocker]

Saves time if you just leave the confirmation emails in your inbox. Plus, if you made your browser remember your login then there's no work involved whatsoever for the lazy people later with remembering things and all that. Just look at the dates from time to time and do them when they are properly aged.

But yeah, you should have a much broader backlink strategy going on too. When I stopped relying on one method alone my rankings improved overall.

[All Night Cafe]

This is my first month using Angela's backlinks. I 'm having
good success. For the price, I'm pleased.

But I do also articles, ppc and other strategies.

Post above siad use many different ways.

[ARVolund]

Having the info in the excel file is much faster than just using the confirmation emails. That was the first method I tried. First off there are more steps as you have to open each email separately, second most of the emails have a confirmation link not a link directly to the profile or sometimes even the main site so then you have to go to the main page of the site and attempt to login to find out whether or not the profile is still good. While I do have my browser save the login information I do not always work from the same computer. These things make the email method much slower when going back to enter in the links.

Now obviously there it does take some time to enter the info into the excel file but once you get it down not as much as you think. For each set of accounts I try and use the same username and password so I skip that part unless for some reason the site makes me use something different. I then go back and quickly fill in the rest at the end of my working session or while waiting for something else to happen. There are always some down times in the process like waiting for a browser window to open or an email to arrive that give me a couple of seconds to populate the info so that it does not really ad much to the account creation phase.

There is some work setting up the system and using it but it actually ends up saving me time throughout the complete process. Having said that the biggest advantages maybe how easy it makes it for more than one person to work on the sites together. This makes it real easy to outsource any part of the process or have someone do just some of the sites that you have in a separate file and then send you the info so you can copy them into your main file. I also keep culling out the sites that do not work and end up with a list of sites to start with when starting my next round of profiles and link building instead of with a list that I know has sites in it that are not going to work for me.

Originally Posted by tjcocker

Saves time if you just leave the confirmation emails in your inbox. Plus, if you made your browser remember your login then there's no work involved whatsoever for the lazy people later with remembering things and all that. Just look at the dates from time to time and do them when they are properly aged.

But yeah, you should have a much broader backlink strategy going on too. When I stopped relying on one method alone my rankings improved overall.

[Billy Rey]

Just like most of the guys up there said, mix up what you do.

Dont just rely on one thing. Focus on the ones that give you the biggest link juice.

The harder to get the backlink, the greater it's worth. Then use web directory submissions, comments, etc as support.

[Callous]

I suspect that it goes a great distance to take a look around the various websites that you've signed up for and take an extra few minutes to make a few posts. Find an ongoing discussion, add some value to it (don't put your link in though cause that would be stupid). New members posting in threads that have some value will take the heat off of their profile link section.

I like the idea about coming back to the links later, or even making the profile with no external links at first and 2-3 weeks later adding the link once you're not a "new" member anymore.

[hushy]

I use these back links aswell. I don't know for sure if they are helping or not. Problem I am having is the time to do them. As I have not made enough in IM to leave my job as of yet. But working on it.

[UnDenIeD]

These types of backlinks work. The only problem is saturation - the number of people suscribed to them is huge. The websites owners see the stampede of people that come to their sites solely for this purpose and they turn the links into normal text, no follow or delete them all togheter.

Solution. Buy packets that are limited to few users or find your own.

[Mike Anthony]

Delaying dropping a link can help but most people don't and with the volumes using and abusing those lists the webmasters give up and make everything nofollow. Still, I know some people who are still having good success with them.

[MarkAse]

As much as I love the lists generated from Angela and Paul...I like them much, much more about 60 days after they are released.

Mix it up. These links packets should only be taking you 4-5 hours at most to complete. Although a great start I think it is highly unrealistic to think that in 1 hour per week on average you are going to move up significantly in SERPS.

Start trying to write 2 articles per week and make them into videos. There are tons of other choices out there!

[markfb]

I have found the best way with Angela's links is to leave them for at least 6 weeks, let the dust settle and then go and create my profile leave that for a couple of weeks and then go back to drop my link. I never had to do this but just recently I think the spammers have been hitting these packets really hard spoiling it for everybody.

[hommi_16]

Originally Posted by WealthWithin

Here's why they work.

When you create an account, your profile name gets displayed on the homepage of that forum as a 'new member'. Since you're not going to create any posts, you will have a very limited time on this exposure. If the time is right, and the GBot happens to be crawling that site at that moment, you will get the link juice, and PR will flow to your site.

Here's why they don't work,
The GBot crawls most forums each 1-2 days. If you create 100's of these profile links, just by the sheer volume of exposure, you will hit the GBot and will get some link juice.

That's why it works for some and not for others.

You can always ping the pages!

[discrat]

Originally Posted by ARVolund

I think the main problem with any of the lists is that some people do not use them wisely by posting obviously over the top spam on them which ruins it for everyone.

I have taken a somewhat different path to using the lists and while it is a bit more work the stick rate of my profiles is much higher this way.

First off I sit on the list for three or four weeks before using it. This allows the spammers to screw things up so that when I start creating accounts one or two things have happened. Either the accounts now have to be manually approved or the moderators have already gone through and cleaned things up a bit after the initial rush. If the accounts have to be manually approved I just move on.

Then I create an account by filling out all the info (including a pict) but with no links or anything remotely spammy in the profile at all. I then let it sit at least two-three weeks to give the moderator plenty of time to check it out and let it fall off the radar. Only then do I go back and include a link and even then I keep it to one and make sure it does not look like spam.

Doing it this way does take a little more time but the last couple of months my stick rate has been well over 90%. The time spent on each profile is more but since there is a lot less time wasted on profiles that are being deleted the time spent on each successful profile is not really much higher.

What you say is good but it involves too much Work. I just cant stand Work and thought I could come on Warrior and make money without Work !! cough ** cough

[Ron R.]

Back in mid-November, I took a review site of mine and decided to reoptimize it for a much bigger search term. Previously I was dominating (#1 on Google, #2 in Bing, etc.) for a term that had 5,000+ searches per month.

I found a term that had 70,000+ searches per month. So I redid the onpage optimization, and built just a few social bookmarks, and managed to land at around 250th on Google.

I decided it was time to quit screwing around and make a dent in the rankings. So I bought my first packet from Angela on November 15th. I had never done this type of linkbuilding, and I wanted to give it a legitimate effort.

On November 17th I built my first forum profiles. Just 30 profiles. On December 1st I built 30 more forum profiles. By December 10th, I was 20th on Google. On January 1st I built 30 more forum profiles. On Jan. 13th I was # 9 in Google. On Jan 23rd I made it to #2 on Google - and have stayed there ever since.

I build the profiles and links all at once so I don't let them age for a while before doing it. Is that stupid? Probably. But it really worked.

The other thing I did was ping every profile I created instantly. Meaning I didn't wait for some forum moderator to catch up and maybe remove the links. I pinged it in another window while I was creating these profiles.

I use bookmarking demon to ping because it is built in to the software and easy to use. But you can achieve the same effect by using pingomatic.com manually.

Since then I have bought KK Choons packet and also subscribe to Terry Kyle's Black Belt monthly packet - and both are really awesome. But with these I am wising up and letting the profiles mature for one week before building my links in the profiles. It is the smart thing to do.

I know that I don't post on this forum like I probably should as I tend to learn and then go and take action. I probably should be more involved. Hell, I still don't even know how to thank anyone yet on this forum. I don't see a button I can click to thank anybody. So if you found this useful, then shoot me a message on how I can thank people on this forum. I have a lot of people I need to thank!

[f4ll3rs]

my trick to get the profile link indexed is you ping the profile, and then bookmark it, ping the bookmark, and then make a rss feed from that profile, ping that rss feed, and then submit it to the rss agrgregator...

another trick to get it indexed, is to put it (the profile link) in your blogspot blogroll...

here's a picture how i get these profiles indexed:

[HCLee]

This is correct. The trick is then to index all your profile backlinks url and once they are indexed, they follow the natural course of Google indexing all your backlinks. I used the Google Slingshot to do this and it works quite well.

Originally Posted by WealthWithin

Here's why they work.

When you create an account, your profile name gets displayed on the homepage of that forum as a 'new member'. Since you're not going to create any posts, you will have a very limited time on this exposure. If the time is right, and the GBot happens to be crawling that site at that moment, you will get the link juice, and PR will flow to your site.

Here's why they don't work,
The GBot crawls most forums each 1-2 days. If you create 100's of these profile links, just by the sheer volume of exposure, you will hit the GBot and will get some link juice.

That's why it works for some and not for others.