How many backlinks daily?

[nfdcash]

Hi!

I started new project, how many backlinks daily is safe for google (I wouldn't like to get ban or Sandbox in Google).

I read 2 backlinks daily is save, but for domain or page ? Can I getting 2 backlinks daily to x.com and 2 backlinks to x.com/links.php and 5 other pages or only 2 backlinks to domain ?

Thanks,

[jazbo]

Build as many as you want. Google does not find the links all at the same time. Just dont go nuts and build 50k one month and then 10 the next, keep it steady to minimise huge peaks and troughs in volume being found.

[nfdcash]

Originally Posted by jazbo

Build as many as you want. Google does not find the links all at the same time. Just dont go nuts and build 50k one month and then 10 the next, keep it steady to minimise huge peaks and troughs in volume being found.

Are u sure? It's new domain, I wouldn't like to get ban etc.

I am building links for my dating site, I was in 2nd position, few days ago I drop in 7th page why ?

[BarrieAdams]

Originally Posted by nfdcash

Are u sure? It's new domain, I wouldn't like to get ban etc.

I am building links for my dating site, I was in 2nd position, few days ago I drop in 7th page why ?

Sometimes you do jump up into a good postion and then drop down again, most of my ranks change pretty much daily unless it is a very competitve 1-2 phrase keyword which tend to show more stable listings.

Plus universal search could be a factor, if you are logged in you may see a different result, and also depends on which Google datacentre you are viewing.

Basically, ranks change alot so it's quite normal.

As for link building, just factor it into your plans and consistently hunt out new links, whatever figure you feel you can handle will be best way forward.

[sizzler_chetan]

The frequency of building backlinks really doesn't affect much until you are doing that in a pretty high pace that alerts the Google spam team.
Although you might be getting backlinks into hundred pages in a single day, not all of them are daily indexed and will be added to your backlink count. So don't need to worry about the daily backlink count.

And the fluctuations in the rankings are not a big issue, as it happens regularly.

[keyaziz]

I would try to find a few day high quality links. It will take some work to find them and these are better than hundreds of crappy links and better for your site.

[sahar]

i try to get 50 backlinks daily. looking for result

[Ldimilo]

Link Velocity isn't the problem. It is where you are getting the links. For instance, if you were to get featured in a NYTimes article and got 1000's of links in a single day pointing to your blog, you wouldn't get sandboxed.

If that were the case, viral marketing would not work.

However, if you were to get 100's of links from parasitic hosts and web 2.0 properties then you may.

I think that Google is quite aware of the difference and would be willing to believe that they are using Rossmo's formula as part of their algo to discover and discount popular link schemes.

[hydseo]

you can get as many as link daily because google only index few..some sites like adobe.com,digg.com,facebook.com will receive more than 1,00,000 back links daily..

Good luck

[paulgl]

Originally Posted by jazbo

Build as many as you want. Google does not find the links all at the same time. Just dont go nuts and build 50k one month and then 10 the next, keep it steady to minimise huge peaks and troughs in volume being found.

Man is that one of the best responses to this question ever!

Not only is it true, but it's logical! Many times bad advice trumps logic.

If google does indeed(?) value one link a tenth of another one, then just
build ten times as many of those backlinks. Come on people. Don't let
logic and facts slip away on this one!

Paul

[nfdcash]

Fu*# !
My next site was on 1st page, now it's 57 (!) page, WTF? ://
What I should do?

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by nfdcash

Fu*# !
My next site was on 1st page, now it's 57 (!) page, WTF? ://
What I should do?

It's called the google dance, don't worry about it at all!

Just keep building up those backlinks at a steady pace and you will soon come back up, tommorow you should be in a better position than today and might even be back on the first page!

Also make sure you vary your backlinks after you get a load of them, the google machine has codes to detect if you just used a bot to go and get all comment spam backlinks etc etc (it took me 6 months to get my site out of that one).

You have to remember that the average website builder who builds links without knowing anything about seo but is just telling people about their website on different sites never seem's to have a problem with the sandbox etc because they do 'normal' things!

Just keep your link building normal if your newer to seo and then later when your more advanced you can introduce tools etc to push the limits.

Mark Blaze

[nfdcash]

Originally Posted by Mark Blaze

It's called the google dance, don't worry about it at all!

Just keep building up those backlinks at a steady pace and you will soon come back up, tommorow you should be in a better position than today and might even be back on the first page!

Also make sure you vary your backlinks after you get a load of them, the google machine has codes to detect if you just used a bot to go and get all comment spam backlinks etc etc (it took me 6 months to get my site out of that one).

You have to remember that the average website builder who builds links without knowing anything about seo but is just telling people about their website on different sites never seem's to have a problem with the sandbox etc because they do 'normal' things!

Just keep your link building normal if your newer to seo and then later when your more advanced you can introduce tools etc to push the limits.

Mark Blaze

Thanks Mark for great answer!

How I should build my links now ?
I am doing web 2.0 (profile links), dofollow blogs/forums and link exchange.

What you mean by introduce tools?

Thanks a lot, Have a nice day!

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by nfdcash

Thanks Mark for great answer!

How I should build my links now ?
I am doing web 2.0 (profile links), dofollow blogs/forums and link exchange.

What you mean by introduce tools?

Thanks a lot, Have a nice day!

Go and build some web 2.0 sites (squidoo, hubpages, weebly etc etc) and put some nice content on them (you will also get traffic from them) and can use them to target other keywords and do some seo on them too.

With web 2.0 sites too you don't need to worry about the sandbox or how many links you get to them a day or in total because they are already authority sites and can handle large numbers.

Mark Blaze

[nfdcash]

Originally Posted by Mark Blaze

Go and build some web 2.0 sites (squidoo, hubpages, weebly etc etc) and put some nice content on them (you will also get traffic from them) and can use them to target other keywords and do some seo on them too.

With web 2.0 sites too you don't need to worry about the sandbox or how many links you get to them a day or in total because they are already authority sites and can handle large numbers.

Mark Blaze

But links from hubpaes are no-follow.
Is there any other method to build without writing articles?

[bgmacaw]

Once again....

You cannot manually build too many links. It's physically impossible for a human to do it, especially working alone. Certain automation techniques could draw some scrutiny if overused or used heavily within certain niches where link spamming is a problem (eg. male enhancement).

Second, there is no 'sandbox' only the quality and value of your incoming links. If you have low quality links, you won't rank well.

One thing that throws people off and makes them think that there is a 'sandbox' is the QDF algorithm, meaning "Query Deserves Freshness". New content gets a temporary boost in ranking. How long this boost lasts depends on several factors but it can be for only a few hours to several weeks. However, eventually, the page in question will drop back down to its natural level based on the quantity and quality of links it has. Some sites manage to avoid this fallback by receiving high quality links early on but most sites will experience this decline in ranking.

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by nfdcash

But links from hubpaes are no-follow.
Is there any other method to build without writing articles?

No-follow links are still good and need to be included too. They still help you rank!

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

Once again....

You cannot manually build too many links. It's physically impossible for a human to do it, especially working alone. Certain automation techniques could draw some scrutiny if overused or used heavily within certain niches where link spamming is a problem (eg. male enhancement).

Second, there is no 'sandbox' only the quality and value of your incoming links. If you have low quality links, you won't rank well.

One thing that throws people off and makes them think that there is a 'sandbox' is the QDF algorithm, meaning "Query Deserves Freshness". New content gets a temporary boost in ranking. How long this boost lasts depends on several factors but it can be for only a few hours to several weeks. However, eventually, the page in question will drop back down to its natural level based on the quantity and quality of links it has. Some sites manage to avoid this fallback by receiving high quality links early on but most sites will experience this decline in ranking.

I can build 1000 backlinks manually if i spent a whole day doing them and could then ping them all manually too and i would see a big google slap or ban if it was on a new domain so that is not entirely true.

I have also ranked a site in the top 10 based completely on comment spam using a tool and done no other backlinking to it at all in the last 6 months and it still ranks in the top 10. None of them had any PR on the pages and were all the same sort of backlinks too in there thousands.

Mark Blaze

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by Mark Blaze

I can build 1000 backlinks manually if i spent a whole day doing them and could then ping them all manually too and i would see a big google slap or ban if it was on a new domain so that is not entirely true.

Nonsense.

But, I do hope people continue to believe this BS about getting too many links. It only helps me so maybe I should just be quiet from now on and let people practice their cargo cult SEO.

[2d0k]

You can build as many backlinks as you can.. Just don't use any tool or software which will make thousands of backlinks to your site in a day..

I launched a website in November '09 and made some extensive backlinking to it.. About 20-40 links a day.. It was not sandboxed.. In fact, it is now with PageRank higher than 2..

[MarkAse]

To clear one thing about Hubpages, they start as no-follow but change to do-follow once you have attained a high enough score on both the hub itself and your profile.

[nfdcash]

I am building links, for my sites,(before google dance first page) from 56th page to 61th page. Second site from (before google dance first position) 6th page to 4th page.

My next question, should I buy domain for every new site or use ezine, hubpages, blogspots sites or build one site and links pages to keywords ?

[Davioli]

How many times have we seen this same question repeated again and again.

Let me try and clear it (yet again!)

Google will not sandbox/deindex you if you get a million links overnight. No way in hell will that happen.

Does this mean spammers have a free reign? NO!

Google will sandbox/deindex you IF:

- You've got a million links from a single source. Like Xrumer forum spamming.

- You've got a million links that have a very easy to find footprint.

- You've got a million links of poor quality.

It all comes down to link diversity. If you've got a thousand high quality links then no amount of spamming will get you deindexed.

This is the reason you can't really nuke your competitor off the rankings (if they've got solid quality natural links)

if you're looking to build a hundred or even a thousand links a day.. make sure you're using very diverse methods to get them.

[jasonmorgan]

here is a good rule to follow...

never count on an SE ranking being set unless you've had it for at least a month

sites are going to bump up n' down all the time, it's part of the normal flow of SE rankings.

If you've managed to keep a consistent SE ranking for an extended period of time then you can relax... a little bit.

[Michael Nguyen]

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

Nonsense.

But, I do hope people continue to believe this BS about getting too many links. It only helps me so maybe I should just be quiet from now on and let people practice their cargo cult SEO.

bgmacaw is correct. Stop listening to what everyone says and use simple logic here. If you think google will flag a site, new or old due to the amount of incoming links, competitors will go crazy on building dodgy link to your site right? It would make sense to attack their site so yours can rise right?

Just build all you can. The only time you will really flag google is if you do a google bomb like what happend to GW bush. Google: miserable faliure and see what this is. Ever since then, google has changed it algorithm to detect this. The amount of backlinks you normal marketers build is NOTHING...your link buildings efforts is like a cup spill of water to what Google really can detect.

[lolawanda]

Originally Posted by BarrieAdams

Sometimes you do jump up into a good postion and then drop down again, most of my ranks change pretty much daily unless it is a very competitve 1-2 phrase keyword which tend to show more stable listings.

Plus universal search could be a factor, if you are logged in you may see a different result, and also depends on which Google datacentre you are viewing.

Basically, ranks change alot so it's quite normal.

As for link building, just factor it into your plans and consistently hunt out new links, whatever figure you feel you can handle will be best way forward.

I agree with this post...coz I'm also experiencing this in my own site.

[nfdcash]

Thanks for tips. I am building now daily (3-5 backlinks from spinning article from goarticles, articlebase, squidoo, hubpages, 10 backlinks from dofollow profile). Now I am with my one page (it was on 1st page, after dance it was on 65 page, now it's on 31 page). My 2nd site was on 1st positon, after dance was on 6th page, few days ago was on 4th page, now it's on 6th page.

Any other tips ?

Thanks for helping me.

[rfevado]

well i try to get backlinks manually and its safe. Google crawl backlinks slowly slowly so keep getting backlinks

[josephine.bookoffers]

The more QUALITY of inbound links the better.

[ap09.com]

Check this link it might help you
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[blackcat123]

Originally Posted by nfdcash

Are u sure? It's new domain, I wouldn't like to get ban etc.

I am building links for my dating site, I was in 2nd position, few days ago I drop in 7th page why ?

It's due to so-called Google dance. Be patient, it will become stable.

[howinfo]

Originally Posted by nfdcash

Hi!

I started new project, how many backlinks daily is safe for google (I wouldn't like to get ban or Sandbox in Google).

I read 2 backlinks daily is save, but for domain or page ? Can I getting 2 backlinks daily to x.com and 2 backlinks to x.com/links.php and 5 other pages or only 2 backlinks to domain ?

Thanks,

When we where building links we where getting around 300 a day, noting happened. I think it is quite safe, I have heard some people have cot lot more then that a day and are doing fine.

[nfdcash]

My site was on 30th, now it's 61 th page, yes google dance...

So, now I am building 20+ backlinks from profiles + 2-3 articles a day on squidoo, ezine, goarticles etc, it is good way?

How people building 300 backlinks daily? It's crazy!

[vagabondette]

Stop checking your rank so often. It takes a while for backlinks to be found, even if you ping them. Just build them and eventually you'll get there (assuming you've done all the right research). I build anywhere from 50-200 backlinks/day to my target pages/keywords.

Each day I alternate my backlink source from articles, forums, blog commenting, social networking, forum profiles, social bookmarking and more. Each week I alternate my keyword targets so I can rank for multiple keywords.

Once a week I check my stats and that's how I choose which keywords to focus on. Whichever keyword for each site is ranking highest in the SERPs without being in the top 3 is the one I focus on for that week.

[TargetedTrafficSolutions]

Take it slow for the first 90 days

- multiple natural pattern of anchor text
- multiple c-block ip addresses

Do not go to town if you want a domain to be worth anything moving forward.

[zoobie]

well I do agree Google will NOT or rarely index all your links at once so why bother to ask how many links you should build per day. But of course if you work on your own the maximum that you can build is probably 10-20.

[sudeep13582]

Originally Posted by nfdcash

But links from hubpaes are no-follow.
Is there any other method to build without writing articles?

if you manage to improve your hub score(greater thank 75) then the links will turn to dofollow

[sudeep13582]

I know a website owner personally .. they dont build backlink now... but still in first page of google.. dont know why

can anyone analyze the site.. the site is foontastic.com

[sterday]

Originally Posted by nfdcash

But links from hubpaes are no-follow.
Is there any other method to build without writing articles?

Well build some no-follow links as well which is really looking natural to google eyes, If you build only Dofollow backlinks, Google may think it's build by the owner, and probably they won't give value to your links.

So better build some nofollow links as well Thanks

[nfdcash]

Originally Posted by vagabondette

Stop checking your rank so often. It takes a while for backlinks to be found, even if you ping them. Just build them and eventually you'll get there (assuming you've done all the right research). I build anywhere from 50-200 backlinks/day to my target pages/keywords.

Each day I alternate my backlink source from articles, forums, blog commenting, social networking, forum profiles, social bookmarking and more. Each week I alternate my keyword targets so I can rank for multiple keywords.

Once a week I check my stats and that's how I choose which keywords to focus on. Whichever keyword for each site is ranking highest in the SERPs without being in the top 3 is the one I focus on for that week.

But my keyword is easy. After month and build 5 backlinks daily I was on first page, not it's a last page (650 000 results , 64 page my site).

[Hasan Barbary]

Originally Posted by nfdcash

But my keyword is easy. After month and build 5 backlinks daily I was on first page, not it's a last page (650 000 results , 64 page my site).

If your keyword is that "easy", other competitors are probably jumping on it. Have you analyzed the new sites on Page 1? Where are their backlinks coming from? This is where you should start.

Don't drive yourself crazy checking your SERPS every 5 minutes. Gaining and keeping a Page 1 position is a marathon, not a sprint.

It's sounds like you have a good, diversified linkbuilding approach. Just keep at it. Even the fastest indexing sites (Twitter, high-traffic forums) can take 48 hours to show up.

[vagabondette]

Just because you got on page 1 initially doesn't mean your keyword is easy. Most people have a good SERP result initially then it goes down and you have to build back up. I assume you've reverse engineered all the links for the people who are in the top 10 spots and duplicated them as best you can right? It'll just take time. Keep building your links, keep adding content and keep building more sites and you'll be fine. Also, keep in mind that few, if any, sites should/would have only one keyword target. Make sure you use other keyword phrases too. It not only helps your backlinking look more natural but then you'll start ranking for multiple keywords. What are the stats for your keyword anyway? # of searches/month, competition, etc.

[EyeInTriangle]

I would take your time. I usually only build 4 backlinks a week if that. It is much safer to take your time with that sort of thing.

[nfdcash]

My next site was on 1st page on 100k monthly searches keyword... Now it's out of 200 pages. A lot of work and nothing...

[nfdcash]

Anyone ?

[nakkale]

It goes up and down during process of backlinking. People call it google dance. My wb site was ranked No 1 before I carried out back linking process but a week later it dropped to zero, then again after a week it went to No 1.

I think it's a google dance!

Any comments by experience SEO warriors!

[InternetMarketingIQ]

The correct answer is Google doesn't care how many legitimate back links you create each day.

Google will NOT crawl every site you place a link on today.

So do as many as you want.

Google is only interested in weeding out link schemes that artificially manipulate search results. Unfortunately they are the sole determiners of what is legit.

If you are so worried about "playing it safe" you stand little real chance. The bottom line is no risk no reward.

Diversify and test.

[DanielSanderson]

just to add my opinion to this

i only go for big projects rather than bull s*** three page review sites

i started a site in the first week of the year, it now has 1500 links in yahoo

by the end of the month it will be 2500

by the end of march it will be around 8000

it makes absolutely no difference what so ever

on a side note, your site is dancing around because you're building links of a low quality

[jaratvit]

If you follow the general rule of thumb of obtaining links for traffic purposes, imho, you're not likely to trigger any "too many, too fast" side effects...

[forumer147]

I thought you can build relevant backlinks as many as you want as long as you will mot use or getting links from spam site or blogs

[loginname]

I wonder if I should launch Senuke and submitt 500 dofollow backlinks for one of my sites today? Submitt them before I go on vacation.