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Old 08-10-2008, 01:40 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Adsense Truth: Specifically For Newbies

For Newbies, Adsense Is The Toughest Business To Make Money With

The problem I see is that most of you who have not been through the
wear and tear of trying and failing online, the idea that all you have to
do is put up a few articles and make money from clicks is appealing. But
you have it all wrong.

Since that 10 page thread in the old warrior forum started I must have
gotten about 150 emails asking me questions. Being the straight shooter
that I am I explained the truth, most of which they did not like hearing.

I explained that:

1) Adsense has nothing to do with making money from your content sites.
Content and traffic is what matters and if you do not like the idea of writing
10+ articles per day for your business then you might as well pack it up.

2) You are new, and you chose a business model that relies on 100% organic
traffic? Do you realize how much time this takes? Do you realize that everyone's
dream is to get all of the free traffic possible? Do you realize that your entire
income depends on free traffic?

My point is that this is not an Adsense business, this is a traffic and content
business.

3) There is no magic button to push that will build these sites for you. Where
do you think all of the content will come from? Someone has to write it. And
if you think you can get away with unchanged PLR (duplicate) then you are wasting
your time.

4) You have to stop buying software programs that are supposed to make you
rich overnight with Adsense. I did that in the beginning with several programs. Yes
I made money but I also get hundreds of websites deindexed in 6 weeks or less,
plus risked having my Adsense account shut down.


1 Site or 50 Smaller Sites: You Still Have To Do The Same Thing

Another subject that comes up often is deciding on whether to concentrate on
1-2 sites or dozens of smaller sites. Well either way you still have to do the same
work:

1) Original content
2) Backlinks

So I don't care how you go about it but it is best not to spread yourself too thin.
I am experiencing that now. I've got a super site that is making most of my income
but have toyed around with other ideas. I do believe in a few sites (not just one) so
it has been hard choosing.


You Do Not Need More Adsense Ebooks

Ok, so there is nothing wrong with learning basic SEO, article marketing tips, etc.
but sooner or later you have to accept the fact that making money with Adsense
boils down to these basics:

1) Content created around keywords (with basic on-page SEO)
2) Backlink building with basic off-page SEO.

That's it, really! Show me someone who knows nothing more than that, puts 500+
original articles on his site, plus several hundred articles posted in directories
(also niche forum backlinks, social bookmarking, etc), then that person is probably
looking at $50 - $100 per day in Adsense.


There Are Faster, Better, & More Profitable Ways To Make Money!

This may sound strange coming from someone that is fanatical about creating content
sites and living off Adsense alone, but if it is money you want, and fast money, and
more money, then Adsense is the worst possible choice to make.

I'm serious. Now keep in mind that I absolutely love this business model and plan
to take it as far as I can go with it. But the honest-to-God truth is that you can do
MUCH better if you choose another business model.

Product creation, affiliate marketing, PPC, anything else will beat the hell out of
writing your butt off, day after day, only seeing pennies in the beginning, having
to wait 6-8 months for serious returns. It's Insane!

HOWEVER.... I love it. And perhaps you do too. But it's a choice you have to make.

If it is money you are after, then choose another business model. But if you have
a passion for being a content publisher and enjoy the way the system works, you
will do well.

Hopefully you all can appreciate this post. I'm not trying to shatter any dreams here
but it's time everyone stop wasting months and months, even years, spinning their
wheels with a business model that they just might not be cut out for.

- John

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One thing that most people don't count on when dealing with adsense is that it is really all about volume.....more traffic = more money. It is as simple as that. You can expect a CTR in the ballpark of 2-4%. Therefore, if you are getting 100 hits a day, then you should get 2-4 clicks. Now most people who have sites don't get that many hits and this is especially true for those who are just throwing up sites with PLR hoping to rake it in.

Another thing that most people don't realize is that making money with adsense is really about organic traffic....not the readership traffic that most bloggers are hoping to get.

High SE ranking for a high traffic word using adsense = money in the bank....

Whenever I read about someone complaining about adsense or not making money with adsense, I know that they aren't getting much traffic to their site.
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One thing that most people don't count on when dealing with adsense is that it is really all about volume.....more traffic = more money. It is as simple as that. You can expect a CTR in the ballpark of 2-4%.
Thanks for the reply.

I agree with everything you mentioned accept for
the 2-4% CTR (with good targetted content and placement a static site
should do much better).

However... it's always safe to plan for the minimum, so that's ok too.

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Well said John,

You have hit the nail on the head with this post.

It takes a long time to build it up the traffic.

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Hey John,

Just another question for the newbies.

In your post you mention that you should add content to your site - 500 pages or so.

Others have said you should write heaps of articles and submit them to article directories.

You mention that you should only write 30 - 40.

What do you think is better - obviously you don't want the same article as your webpage.

I am thinking hundreds of articles is better as this is driving traffic to your site - where as if you have hundreds of webpages is not going to achieve much traffic. I guess it will organically overtime though.

What are your thoughts?

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Hi XFactor,

Yet another great post.

I believe this is the clearest and most concise post I have seen yet on how to approach content publishing for AdSense. You have a way of putting it into a no nonsense practical guide.

Thanks again, for sharing your excellent tips.

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This is a great post. These are the things that I have gone through myself. I am not at the point where I want to creat my own products, nor am I to the point where I want to do affiliate marketing - although I have a couple of ideas forming.

Adsense takes a long time to get started and the returns early on are minimal - but I still believe that even now after the low hanging fruit of years past Adsense income is gone, there is still a lot of money that can be made from Adsense.

We will all go through the learning curve but the ones who have the faith and stick with it - learn all they can and modify their approach - and don't see failure as an option will reach their goals and make the money they want. All they need is the right formula. Once they have found what works, just repeat it as many times as necessary to reach your income goals.

Adsense is hard work and if you buy into the hype that promoters of Adsense programs are peddling - you will be disappointed.
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Hey John,

Just another question for the newbies.

In your post you mention that you should add content to your site - 500 pages or so.

Others have said you should write heaps of articles and submit them to article directories.

You mention that you should only write 30 - 40.

What do you think is better - obviously you don't want the same article as your webpage.
Hi Easy,

I believe that you should never stop writing articles. I may have used numbers as
guidelines but in reality your sites should never stop growing, ever.

Right now I'm planning on getting 100 articles up on a new site I am making, then
I will send 100 unique articles to article directories. From there I will reduce the
article marketing.

I guess you could say that I would like all of my sites to have a minimum of 1,000
articles on them.

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I have thrown up a 40 page site with PLR for content and then over 3 weeks written 50 articles for article directory submission for those sites and started making $5 a day pretty quickly, and many of those sites have been around well over a year and still make money everyday.

Its a model that does not take to much work and can be easily implemented and multiplied by 10 or 20 sites you are making some great cash!

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I've actually read through the whole 10 page thread a couple times, and used parts of it to build out my strategy on my new site that I'm working on.

The main points that I took away:
-The competitive niches with higher earnings per click are best, even though there is so much competition
-Google default ad color is the best for getting clicks (I've heard this many times before, too)

There may have been more, but I can't think of it at the moment.

Anyway, thanks for all the tips that you've provided.

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I've actually read through the whole 10 page thread a couple times, and used parts of it to build out my strategy on my new site that I'm working on.

The main points that I took away:
-The competitive niches with higher earnings per click are best, even though there is so much competition
-Google default ad color is the best for getting clicks (I've heard this many times before, too)

There may have been more, but I can't think of it at the moment.

Anyway, thanks for all the tips that you've provided.
Thanks for reading and enjoying the info, but are you sure you got that
info from my personal input?

Just to clear things up:

- I'm not a big fan of high paying niches
- I never use the default ad

You know, there needs to be a video to clear up any confusion on
my approach. I'll make one.

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I have never used the default ad either, better luck with the standard old blue link, black text black url. Red works well on some site to

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Thanks for reading and enjoying the info, but are you sure you got that
info from my personal input?

Just to clear things up:

- I'm not a big fan of high paying niches
- I never use the default ad

You know, there needs to be a video to clear up any confusion on
my approach. I'll make one.

- John
Ok, maybe not default ad, but you did say to use blue links, right?

And as for high paying niches... I must have added that on my own. I remember you saying that you used the health niche, and based on my experience, that should be a higher paying niche. I guess the main point that I got was that the competitive niches shouldn't be avoided, but embraced.

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Ok, maybe not default ad, but you did say to use blue links, right?

And as for high paying niches... I must have added that on my own. I remember you saying that you used the health niche, and based on my experience, that should be a higher paying niche. I guess the main point that I got was that the competitive niches shouldn't be avoided, but embraced.
Yes I use blue links, but the default code has green URLs (at the bottom) and
it quite clashes with my site layout so I do not use it. It all depends on your site's colors though, and I've seen it look pretty good on a lot of sites.

About the health niche being a high paying niche, it's not when comparing it to the
typical "high paying niche" that is talked about like mortgage, credit, insurance, etc.

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About the health niche being a high paying niche, it's not when comparing it to the
typical "high paying niche" that is talked about like mortgage, credit, insurance, etc.
Heh, unless it's Mesothilioma.

People seem to think that one earns $100's per click.

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Question For John:

Hi John,
i'm an internet freak whose passion in writting and would like to generate income from adsense. i'm very thankful that you share your adsense success tips.i've learn some adsense video and read some ebooks but nothing explain the real adsense like your article in this forum. I hope you don't mind answering my questions.

1. What is the programming language of your site? is it Html or PHP based? and why you use that languange?

2. How about your article it self, do you save it in txt or html or php extention?

3. When you have finished, writing your article, how do you get it online? do you have admin area in your web, which enable you to upload it automatically? or you manually upload it, and edit the link of the main page?

4. what do you mean by "unique article" which you upload to article directory?

5. What do you think about the idea of blending adsense with the article? so the ads may pop up in the middle of the article?

6. Honestly, the adsense analysis makes me confuse, (the analysis about cpc, kei, competition...etc) Would you mind give me the main idea, so i can choose the keyword that will generate dollars?

7. For instance, i want to write article on the base keyword of "wealth", such as: how to get rich by managing your income, financial education, setting up business,etc.
What should i analyze in order to have a rational consideration and confidence that this keyword will generate income for me and prove that my decision of using this keyword is right?

Thanks A Lot John.
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i have health niches and mortgage/crediti niches the mortgage niche easily make $10 in about 5-6 clicks where it would take the health niches 75 or so clicks to make the same amount. I would rather be able to make more off less traffic. But you have to stay on top of promoting these types of sites. It works for me since i wa in mortgae financing for many years and know it well.

The only drawback to this niche is the mortgage niche has low CTRS for articles when compared to alot of other stuff.

Another niche that pays really good is exercise equipment like treadmills, rowing machines and elliptical trainers. Plus those articles have high CTRS if you offer tips

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Thanks for sharing the excellent tips, I appreciated what you're sharing!
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Hi John,
i'm an internet freak whose passion in writting and would like to generate income from adsense. i'm very thankful that you share your adsense success tips.i've learn some adsense video and read some ebooks but nothing explain the real adsense like your article in this forum. I hope you don't mind answering my questions.
For starters, all of your answers below are explained in detail on the original
10-page thread in the other forum. Please visit that thread and read carefully.
The link is in this first post.

But I will give you the short versions below:

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1. What is the programming language of your site? is it Html or PHP based? and why you use that languange?
It is HTML and I use it because that is what XsitePro uses. I use XsitePro.

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2. How about your article it self, do you save it in txt or html or php extention?
HTML (XsitePro)

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3. When you have finished, writing your article, how do you get it online? do you have admin area in your web, which enable you to upload it automatically? or you manually upload it, and edit the link of the main page?
I use XsitePro

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4. what do you mean by "unique article" which you upload to article directory?
Unique, meaning not a copy of any other articles. All of my
articles are unique, for my sites and for article marketing.

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5. What do you think about the idea of blending adsense with the article? so the ads may pop up in the middle of the article?
I still test this way, but nothing
beats putting one adsense block on top of the article (you can see my layout in
my signature).

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6. Honestly, the adsense analysis makes me confuse, (the analysis about cpc, kei, competition...etc) Would you mind give me the main idea, so i can choose the keyword that will generate dollars?
It's not that simple. Choose a niche, get hundreds
of articles online, article market, do other backlink activities, continue... wait... it
will happen...

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What should i analyze in order to have a rational consideration and confidence that this keyword will generate income for me and prove that my decision of using this keyword is right?
I don't overanalyze things like this. I write for all keyword stats. You never know
what will rank and provide you lots of traffic in time. I have fun with it - keywords
from all over the board.

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No problem, but seriously - go back and read the original thread. It will help.

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Having gone from a high of $4300 in Jul 2006 to $350 last month, I have more or less given up on Adsense. Luckily, adsense is now a very minor source of income for me.

I agree with most of Xfactor's observations. I would say Adsense is the easiest method for newbies to make pocket money but one of the toughest to make a full-time income.

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Having gone from a high of $4300 in Jul 2005 to $350 last month, I have more or less given up on Adsense. Luckily, adsense is now a very minor source of income for me.

I agree with most of Xfactor's observations. I would say Adsense is the easiest method for newbies to make pocket money but one of the toughest to make a full-time income.

-Derek
Boy do I wish that I had taken advantage of the Adsense gold rushes of 2003-2005.

I hear stories all the time of how is was so easy to plaster up thousands of keywords
into software programs like traffic equalizer and literally make $15,000 - $20,000 per
month overnight with many sites.

I got in a little too late for that. Had a little success with similar programs but the
search engines got real smart by then.

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Yup John, you guessed correctly what I did. At that time, I had more than 20 million pages in Google. They were constructed by software with the help of 4 full time staff who were working for my e-commerce shop. Besides adsense, the pages also promoted affiliate products and so the total earnings were even higher.

When the initial results came in, I seriously thought I was going to make a million within a few months. But Google got smart quickly and so I was down to just over $1000 by November that year. Still it wasn't able to remove all the pages until May this year, and that is when my monthly earnings dropped below $1000.

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Can you explain further. Did google ban your websites because you were using an content generator of some type? I'm not really familiar with "traffic equalizer". Thanks.
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Traffic equalizer was a program that generated lots of junk SEO-optimized pages after you gave it keyword. Google will ban the site quickly if it is detected. There were also more "proper" content generation programs such as Metawebs and Niche Portal Builder that will give you a proper looking site.

However I did not use these. I used Webmerge to build sites from datafeeds supplied by merchants. So the content was real but was supplied by the merchants. However, there are duplicate content issues involved and also the propensity of Google to downgrade affiliate sites. In my case, the size of the site grew too big too soon and that alerted Google. Still it took over 2 years for Google to de-index those pages entirely. They did not ban the whole site but only banned those pages.

I do not regret doing it as this project have earned several tens of thousands of dollars. However, there is no way I can repeat it because I no longer have the manpower available to do it. I still make a fair bit of money with Webmerge and I would heartily recommend this software. Webmerge is considered as a cornerstone software for many affiliates promoting physical products.

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I do not regret doing it as this project have earned several tens of thousands of dollars. However, there is no way I can repeat it because I no longer have the manpower available to do it. I still make a fair bit of money with Webmerge and I would heartily recommend this software. Webmerge is considered as a cornerstone software for many affiliates promoting physical products.
Agreed.

In today's search engine going this route is not for the faint of heart.

Those that do, and make big money doing it today, know what they are doing,
have enormous resources, and are skilled in technical ways that I would never
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I believe this is a dangerous strategy. It will be very hard to win this niche. At the same time, a very rare niche is not good because you will not get enough traffic. For newbies, I think sitebuildit is a very good deal. It gives you chance to brainstorm your niche so that you get hundreds of key words to write about. It has the guideline that helps you to analyse your pages so that you know how to distribute these keywords in the content. As long as you follow their system, there is no way you will fail to create a content site that earns you adsence money...

I just have one question. Why concentrate on adsence only. Dr. ken says it is a dangerous strategy to put all your eggs in one basket. On those content sites, why not put adsense, affiliate programmes, refferal fees, consultancy.. etc. I believe you can achieve alot with a content website.

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Thanks John for the quick reply,

I have followed your advise to read all of the previous 10 pages.
Now, I've got some question. Hope you don't mind answering.

1. First, I'd like to ask about the topic keyword. Which one do you suggest:
writing about things that i've passion for or
writing about niche keyword that i've researched for ?

2. I am curious about niche keyword, what is the parameter that i could use to define a keyword is a niche keyword? (sound stupid but i want to know, sorry)

3. About the domain, if my content are business related,
which one you recommend, using a domain which contain "business" word or not?
for instance: businesswisdom.com or smartchoice.com

4. About your web content (in the 2nd page of the previous forum)
you describe that when your viewer landed on your article page, they only see...
So, your left navigation (which is the menu = dogs, cats, pigs..) is gone?
In other word, there also no hyperlink to home page?

5. Where do you put these (contact us, about us, privacy&policy) link?

6. Do you place your ads right underneath your headline or right underneath your picture
(which is on the lefthand side of your headline)?

7. I like your statement "More action & less thinking = good enough result for me".
Are you trying to say that i have to start right away....
just write a thousand article on a topic i have passion for (doesn't matter niche or not, no worries about the compettition, etc)
place ads. And see what happen then evaluate. Is that right?

Thanks a lot John.
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Thanks John for the quick reply,

I have followed your advise to read all of the previous 10 pages.
Now, I've got some question. Hope you don't mind answering.

1. First, I'd like to ask about the topic keyword. Which one do you suggest:
writing about things that i've passion for or
writing about niche keyword that i've researched for ?
Both. First pick something you are interested in but make sure it is a topic
where advertisers are spending money.

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2. I am curious about niche keyword, what is the parameter that i could use to define a keyword is a niche keyword? (sound stupid but i want to know, sorry)
Because there is no black and white answer to this question, you must learn to gauge
for yourself what keywords will relate to your niches. So what I suggest is that you
pick up any keyword tool and read through the materials they provide.
I like using Wordtracker and not only do they have PDFs to further explain keywords,
they also provide videos (great learning tools).

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3. About the domain, if my content are business related,
which one you recommend, using a domain which contain "business" word or not?
for instance: businesswisdom.com or smartchoice.com
Either is fine. For Content only sites, any domain will do.

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4. About your web content (in the 2nd page of the previous forum)
you describe that when your viewer landed on your article page, they only see...
So, your left navigation (which is the menu = dogs, cats, pigs..) is gone?
In other word, there also no hyperlink to home page?
I'm not sure I understand the question. However, not to self promote or anything
but in my sig is a video showing the basic outline of my sites.

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5. Where do you put these (contact us, about us, privacy&policy) link?
Same answer as # 4 above.

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6. Do you place your ads right underneath your headline or right underneath your picture (which is on the lefthand side of your headline)?
I've done both but am currently removing my pictures. Too risky.

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7. I like your statement "More action & less thinking = good enough result for me".
Are you trying to say that i have to start right away....
just write a thousand article on a topic i have passion for (doesn't matter niche or not, no worries about the compettition, etc)
place ads. And see what happen then evaluate. Is that right?
Well yeah, but of course go about it with some know-how, like basic SEO, keywords
to use in your content, etc.

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Hi X Factor, well, that sure is a bucket of ice cold water on what seemed to be a good idea. If adsense is a non starter as you say for the reasons given, then here's my question; I'm highly trained in several work areas, mid aged, and my health and ability to work has gone, I need to make an income from the internet or starve. If Adsense is a non starter then is there an online income creator that is recomended?
Anybody reading this, please chip in.
I'm not looking for the equivelant of selling pints of blood for immediate chump change, I need something that works and can grow.

And here's something I've noticed thats going to change, just like a couple of years ago when ebay listings cluttered any google search I did, now its article pages dominate anything I search for. Its already frustrating, like the ebay flood, I bet it won't be long before article marketing goes away too, then what do you have left to get traffic?
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Hi X Factor, well, that sure is a bucket of ice cold water on what seemed to be a good idea. If adsense is a non starter as you say for the reasons given, then here's my question; I'm highly trained in several work areas, mid aged, and my health and ability to work has gone, I need to make an income from the internet or starve. If Adsense is a non starter then is there an online income creator that is recomended?
I never said Adsense was a non-starter. Please read my posts more carefully.

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I believe this is a dangerous strategy. It will be very hard to win this niche. At the same time, a very rare niche is not good because you will not get enough traffic.
The only dangerous strategy is lack of confidence in what you are doing.

Tough niches, easy niches - it doesn't matter. If you put your mind to it, work
hard, and use common sense in terms of SEO, Adsense Placement & Content - then
there is no such thing as a "bad niche".

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For newbies, I think sitebuildit is a very good deal. As long as you follow their system, there is no way you will fail to create a content site that earns you adsence money...
You just contradicted yourself. First you said that all competitive niches are dangerous
stategies and now you are saying that anyone can succeed so long as they use Site
Build It.

So which is it?

I'm not trying to pick on you or anything but your advice is skewed, and people read
these posts for help, not contradictions.

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I just have one question. Why concentrate on adsence only. Dr. ken says it is a dangerous strategy to put all your eggs in one basket. On those content sites, why not put adsense, affiliate programmes, refferal fees, consultancy.. etc. I believe you can achieve alot with a content website.
Why would I want to follow what someone else says instead of going with what
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Hi John,

I wanted more info on your Adsense mentoring -
however the site seems to be down.

Have you filled up or just
not offering it anymore?

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This thread will soon become legendary hahah.
Seriously though, the tips in this thread alone makes me want to start again with adsense.
Unfortunatly I got banned 3 years ago for no apparant reason with $5000+ left unpaid

At times google can really upset a person!

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Good content, but why is no one talking about combining list building and Adsense? This way you can automate your Adsense income.

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John,

What is the directory structure you maintain for your articles on the website.
I see that you have hundreds of articles... do you link all the articles to your home page?

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I wanted more info on your Adsense mentoring -
however the site seems to be down.

Have you filled up or just
not offering it anymore?

Jim ><>
Hi Jim,

Well around March or April of this year I thought about a way to create
something that could help people with Adsense. I did create a forum
but eventually there is just nothing more to talk about with this business
model.

I can help with keyword research and we can discuss tips but there is really
nothing much more than to just get to work.

The forum is still active and I still post, but I am not going to take on any
new members.

Hopefully it helped a few of those that participated but I found out that
there really is not a way to keep things excited for such a boring and simple
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John,

What is the directory structure you maintain for your articles on the website.
I see that you have hundreds of articles... do you link all the articles to your home page?

Ajith
I keep it very simple. If you watched my video you can see that I link all of
a particular subject's articles from that specific page.

For example my health niche has an acne section, so all articles about acne will
be linked from that main page.

I've got a section on exercise, so all of my articles on exercise are linked from that
main page.

If I was working on a more narrow niche, like my pet site, then I would still
have unique main pages, like pet food, dog training, kitten articles, etc.

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Good content, but why is no one talking about combining list building and Adsense? This way you can automate your Adsense income.
Then talk! Start a thread my man.

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John,
Thank you for your contributions in the old forum as well as in the new one. This thread is ver encoraging and I agree with you 100% that if you like writing and enjoying doing it, AdSense seems like a good choice. You may be able to write for a living without waiting for approvals from you-never-know editors and you may get more royalties from G. Hats off to you Join!

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hey , handsome ! i am newbie in google adsense , but i want to know how many post that i have make andthen can get approve from google adsense ?
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X-Factor.....

You know what really gets up my nose? No offense "some of the stuff you say, I totally agree with".. BUT please, don't put false info into these viewers minds about duplicate content.

Speaking as a SEO Professional, I can tell you first hand, having duplicate content on your site that was scraped from another site is going to harm you, which you imply, at least that's the impression I get, is NOT true!

Take Website Content Wizard, Instant Article Wizard, two tools I use a LOT, explain why that on all 590+ websites that have used this tool, continue to rank on the first page (most pages at least)...

Presuming you had SEO experience, you'd understand what duplication of content means and how it ranks pages...

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Thank you. A fascinating thread - I've read most of the original 10 pages.

I use Helium.com to give me ideas for articles. I find it really helpful as otherwise I can sit staring at a blank screen trying to think of something to write about!
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John, thank you for the highly informative post and for not trying to sell us anything in the process.
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X-Factor.....

You know what really gets up my nose? No offense "some of the stuff you say, I totally agree with".. BUT please, don't put false info into these viewers minds about duplicate content.

Speaking as a SEO Professional, I can tell you first hand, having duplicate content on your site that was scraped from another site is going to harm you, which you imply, at least that's the impression I get, is NOT true!

Take Website Content Wizard, Instant Article Wizard, two tools I use a LOT, explain why that on all 590+ websites that have used this tool, continue to rank on the first page (most pages at least)...

Presuming you had SEO experience, you'd understand what duplication of content means and how it ranks pages...
Hi Loz,

I will always be the first one to say that I may be wrong, about a lot of things,
and willing to learn more.

So instead of making a hit-and-run post on the subject, why don't you take some
time to explain how we can use PLR material or scraped articles and rank with them.

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I already have, there's so much duplicate stuff I have said on this forum, people just need to search for it.. no offense to the readers here, but it gets a little tiring having to repeat the same stuff I have said over and over again.. take seo elite forum (truth about forex.com - my user id) and keyword elite forum (ask me about .com - user id), i've clocked up over 1200 posts on each forum, most of the posts is the same stuff I've repeated over and over again, so forgive me not doing it here...

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Hi John, Thanks for the quick reply.
i wanna ask you about google.

Let say i wanna create business related site
main keyword for the site = business,
which contain = smallbusiness, franchise, businessbook, etc.

I put each of them in seperate folder.
so the domain format is:

www.mydomain.com/smallbusiness
www.mydomain.com/franchise
www.mydomain.com/businessbook...etc

Can i register to google and say:
"please put your ads related to small business in the www.mydomain.com/smallbusiness "
"please put your ads related to franchise in the www.mydomain.com/franchise "

Or I have to register multiple account to do that?
or i have to buy more domain?

so, is it possible to have several site with several topics in only 1 google account?
How can i do that?


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Hi,

thanks for all the great advice & tips.
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Hi John, Thanks for the quick reply.
i wanna ask you about google.

Let say i wanna create business related site
main keyword for the site = business,
which contain = smallbusiness, franchise, businessbook, etc.

I put each of them in seperate folder.
so the domain format is:

www.mydomain.com/smallbusiness
www.mydomain.com/franchise
www.mydomain.com/businessbook...etc

Can i register to google and say:
"please put your ads related to small business in the www.mydomain.com/smallbusiness "
"please put your ads related to franchise in the www.mydomain.com/franchise "

Or I have to register multiple account to do that?
or i have to buy more domain?

so, is it possible to have several site with several topics in only 1 google account?
How can i do that?


Thanks John
I'm not sure I understand your question, but it looks to me like you are asking
how your website's pages will show relevant ads, correct?

If so then you are over-thinking this. All you need is one Adsense account to
get started and the ads that show up on your individual pages will be heavily
influenced by the content on that page.

For example one page could be just about "home based businesses" and so long
as your content on that page is about the same subject, then the
Adsense ads served up will be close to that subject. Another page could be about
"financing a business" and the same ad relevancy should occur.

All you can really do is paste your Adsense code, create relevant content, and
see what ads are served up.

I personally stopped worrying about getting to much targeted ads. There are
lots of keywords out there that may not serve up relevant ads, but the keywords
themselves get great traffic and slim-to-none competing sites, so I'll take the
occasional click here and there just because of the traffic.

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With the popularity of affiliate feeds, content duplication is a universal issue we all face.

A common strategy is to pull a feed into a DB tool like OpenOffice and modify the content there before exporting to whatever publishing tool you're using.

This may seem labor-instensive, and it is, but it guarantees that you'll have unique content that's far more readable than any of the automated text-munging tools available can produce.

Like anything else, it seems the secret to success with affiliate sites merely reinforces the timeless relationship between effort and reward.

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Hi John,

It's been nearly a year I'm learning Adsense.
Now, I'm starting to understand your point.

Kindly let me ask some questions:

Based on your statement (which I quoted below),

Let's say my site is getridofacne*c0m

1.
Do I have to write all of my blog content using the targeted keyword
(get rid of acne) ?
If so, I will have 500+ article in my blog with the same targeted keyword then ?

2.
Do I have to write all of the articles that I want to submit to ezinearticles
using the targeted keyword (get rid of acne) ?
If so, I will have 500+ article in the ezine with the same targeted keyword then ?

3.
I have read a thread about how to get the most of ezine articles.
It is said that, we can submit the SAME articles that have been accepted
by ezinearticles to the other top articles directory using different resource box.
Do you agree with it ?

4.
Based on your explanation,
do you really want to say that,
"If I want to earn money from adsense,
I have to write a lot of articles as the blog content and ezinearticles submission"
Correct ?

5.
Do you use any other method ?
such as social bookmarking, rss feed submission, blog&forum comment ?
How is it impact your business compare to the article writing (blog&ezine submission) ?

Kindly guide me.

Thanks a lot John.
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My point is that this is not an Adsense business, this is a traffic and content
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You Do Not Need More Adsense Ebooks

Ok, so there is nothing wrong with learning basic SEO, article marketing tips, etc.
but sooner or later you have to accept the fact that making money with Adsense
boils down to these basics:

1) Content created around keywords (with basic on-page SEO)
2) Backlink building with basic off-page SEO.

That's it, really! Show me someone who knows nothing more than that, puts 500+
original articles on his site, plus several hundred articles posted in directories
(also niche forum backlinks, social bookmarking, etc), then that person is probably
looking at $50 - $100 per day in Adsense.


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