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Old 01-28-2010, 11:47 PM   #1
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Default Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

Google does not punish for duplicate content. They do not punish for having a lot of links. Now, if you post links in link farms or spam people, they will get upset. If you create a great article and submit it to 400 directories (where people go to find articles to publish in their exact form, which would be duplicate content), that is just spreading information.

Here is their video explaining duplicate content:
Sorry if I seem upset, but back links are what drive traffic to your site. Newbies are afraid to use tools that every company uses because they hear that they will get punished.

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Old 01-28-2010, 11:58 PM   #2
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I am also sick of these myths ...

* Google Only Shows 1 Result Per Article
* DoFollow and NoFollow Is Important
* Post Only To EZA
* Build Backlinks To Your Articles And Not Your Site
* Building Links To Fast Will Hurt You
* Post Only On High PR Sites
* PR Means Everything

This list goes on and on and it is nothing but hype, lies, and garbage just spouted about for some wannabe marketer to make money ...

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I shall watch and learn... and as always, I agree with what the jerk has to say.

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Thanks for sharing this dude.

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Default Re: Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

Hello Sean,

Thanks for the video and information on duplicate content

I agree with James completely

I believe that there is no penatly, unless it is on the same website

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Old 01-29-2010, 12:09 AM   #6
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Default Re: Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

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I am also sick of these myths ...

* Google Only Shows 1 Result Per Article
* DoFollow and NoFollow Is Important
* Post Only To EZA
* Build Backlinks To Your Articles And Not Your Site
* Building Links To Fast Will Hurt You
* Post Only On High PR Sites
* PR Means Everything

This list goes on and on and it is nothing but hype, lies, and garbage just spouted about for some wannabe marketer to make money ...

James
We keep trying to slay the myths, James, but onward they march. I've noticed you're one of the few that regularly joins me in trying to demystify this topic, so thanks for the help!

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Thank you for posting this video
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Old 01-29-2010, 12:13 AM   #8
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Default Re: Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

It took me no time to find the duplicate content video, anyone have the video on backlinks?

Found it: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0678227172395#

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Default Re: Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

Google does NOT punish "duplicate" content...
...but it values NEW, unique and helpful content <--

It's basically the same thing - you cant outrank authority sites with re-hashed content. So even if there is no "punishment" in that sense you would still be doing way better to actually have new stuff which people want to read instead of re-posting EZA articles or simply copy content from another site.

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Default Re: Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

Obviously fresh content is better, I just mean that people constantly say that if you use an auto-submitter for an article you wrote that Google will punish you for all of the back links and duplicate content. That is just incorrect. They can 'discount' suspicious links, but that is pretty rare. Hope that clarifies slightly :-)
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Old 01-29-2010, 12:51 AM   #11
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We keep trying to slay the myths, James, but onward they march. I've noticed you're one of the few that regularly joins me in trying to demystify this topic, so thanks for the help!
I tell you Dennis, I do not think most will ever get it though.. There is just far too many marketers, seo experts, and etc out there pushing these myths to sell their junk.

It's a shame you have to lie, cheat, and steal to make money online and then people call you an expert or a guru and your nothing more than a fake wannabe ...

But we will continue to march on and hope we can change at least 1 person each time ...

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Default Re: Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

I fell for these myths when I first started, until I saw these videos and it was all fully explained. I'm hoping that by posting the videos here, it will help a lot of people understand that if the person they are looking to buy a product from makes these claims, they probably aren't trustworthy.
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Wow, I've been saying this for quite a while to colleagues and friends, but not publicly. But yeah, you're right on the money.

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Default Re: Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

But I do hope Google punishes duplicated(scrapped) and rehashed(tweaked) content

Distributing same content is another matter. It's called content syndication. Can Google tell the difference between syndicated content and duplicated(scrapped) content?



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Default Re: Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: Demystifying the "duplicate content penalty"

"Let's put this to bed once and for all, folks: There's no such thing as a "duplicate content penalty." At least, not in the way most people mean when they say that.

There are some penalties that are related to the idea of having the same content as another site—for example, if you're scraping content from other sites and republishing it, or if you republish content without adding any additional value. These tactics are clearly outlined (and discouraged) in our Webmaster Guidelines:

Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.
Avoid... "cookie cutter" approaches such as affiliate programs with little or no original content.
If your site participates in an affiliate program, make sure that your site adds value. Provide unique and relevant content that gives users a reason to visit your site first"

I don't think it is constructive to get into a fit everytime the topic of duplicate content penality comes up. If anything, the sentence in bold admits there is some sort of penalty for using duplicate content under some circumstances. I think it is a matter of interpretation of the term "duplicate content penalty".

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OK, here is what I am trying to get across: If you write an article and submit it to 200 directories, that is your content, you will not get penalized. If you write a press release and send it 100 PR directories, you will not be penalized. If you go and find some public domain book and just publish each page as a web page for adsense, you probably won't rank well.

Bottom line: if it is NEW content and you are just distributing it, you will not be penalized. If you take something old and republish it, those links won't be as effective, but it still won't penalize your site. Otherwise everyone could just bury their competition. The reason I get so upset is because hundreds of new poeple are these forums to learn, it's frustrating that the same wrong information keeps being given. Again, I listened to this myth for a long time, so I know how frustrating it is.
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Thanks.

Interestingly I've just read another post:

Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: Duplicate content due to scrapers

"To conclude, I'd like to point out that in the majority of cases, having duplicate content does not have negative effects on your site's presence in the Google index. It simply gets filtered out."


Filtered out???

I find this ironic because some marketers are still directly and indirectly promoting the benefits of duplicate content


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I tell you Dennis, I do not think most will ever get it though.. There is just far too many marketers, seo experts, and etc out there pushing these myths to sell their junk.

It's a shame you have to lie, cheat, and steal to make money online and then people call you an expert or a guru and your nothing more than a fake wannabe ...

But we will continue to march on and hope we can change at least 1 person each time ...

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True, James, but the funny thing is, I sell my own SEO course without the myths and it's doing fine. I just received an email a week ago from a guy that bought back in April and by July he had several page one listings. Don't know why he took so long to tell me, but his letter is going out in my next newsletter, and I'll sell a bunch more product. So what I was getting at, is you don't really need to include the bogus junk to sell a seo course.

@ ArticlePrince - Thank you for your efforts here too!

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So what I was getting at, is you don't really need to include the bogus junk to sell a seo course.

@ ArticlePrince - Thank you for your efforts here too!
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Ok. I just learn something.


Search Illustrated: How A Search Engine Determines Duplicate Content

http://www.ninebyblue.com/blog/ranki...you-syndicate/


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Default Re: Tired of the Google myths - to clear it up:

Hi,

The video you have provided in your post is a good update and as far as Google penalization concerns than let us take an example of sites that provides lyrics of songs so there are many sites where you can find same lyrics so in that case there is a duplicate content.

We cannot say that it is a myth but it applies accordingly.

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It's the same with anything in life. Some people learn, test and profit. Others listen, believe and pay out.

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I am also sick of these myths ...

* Google Only Shows 1 Result Per Article
* DoFollow and NoFollow Is Important
* Post Only To EZA
* Build Backlinks To Your Articles And Not Your Site
* Building Links To Fast Will Hurt You
* Post Only On High PR Sites
* PR Means Everything
Agreed on most but I really don't think its just a matter of greed. Its the nature of the beast. Google doesn't share their algorithm details so people go to personal anecdotes. Some guy builds a hundred backlinks and disappears from the index so he gets on a forum and tells everyone that the backlinking is what caused it because thats what he really thinks.

As for what I disagree with

I have yet to find ANYONE claiming that NO follow tags still are counted by Google present real data that proves it. They usually start reciting their personal experience etc with nothign to back it up. As of right now I'm tired of that myth. I wish that someone could prove that nofollow /Do follow is not important. It would make my life TON LOADS easier.

Although I agree with you that PR does not mean everything I am tired of people saying that it means nothing and has nothing to do with ranking. Thats a myth. There are many results where PR can have an impact. PR can affect a domain's authority which does help in ranking. Its not the be all and end all of serps but its not nothing either.

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