how many links until you cracked the top 10?

billionareHuman · 02-06-2010, 04:36 AM

I realize this is a very general question and there are numerous factors involved including strength of your site and competition, niche, the way you link build.

However from experience I'll share with you what I've noticed in general

It seems to take me about 30 profile backlinks to get ranked in the top in the 10 for non competitive niches, of course of those 30 not all are indexed yet, about 15 are indexed.

For competitive phrases it seems to take about 70 links that is made up of 3 different varied phrases. I don't build 70 links to the same page with the same exact keyword as that is a surefire way to get dropped out of google, it's the most obvious thing to do and will get you dropped, it's happened to me before.

Would be interesting to hear other people's observations?

AFD · 02-06-2010, 04:48 AM

It's not about the number of links.. it's about the quality of links and the strength of your competitors..

refernshare · 02-06-2010, 04:59 AM

I don't think there's a specific number. Depends on your niche/site competion and what keyword/s you are trying to rank for.

billionareHuman · 02-06-2010, 05:08 AM

um everyone just said what I said already in my opening line, sorry to say but what a bunch of useless replies! Are you all here just to build links to your signatures?

mithil · 02-06-2010, 05:16 AM

Why don't you wait until all the postings get indexed by the Big Daddy.

jasonmorgan · 02-06-2010, 05:35 AM

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For competitive phrases it seems to take about 70 links that is made up of 3 different varied phrases.

I think your and my definition of competitive phrase aren't the same. Try needing 1k or 10k backlinks... then we can talk competitive phrases.

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Are you all here just to build links to your signatures?

Yeah, I think that sums up most of it.

In my ballpark it typically takes a couple hundred to get on the map for the easier keywords and some still haven't cracked the top 10 with a thousands of backlinks. If I have a juicy looking long-tail I'll throw a couple of backlinks at it to bump it up to the top of the page.

Honestly, what your asking... I don't think anybody can give you a clear answer.

Yeah, It's going to take a couple more backlinks to get on the first page of google for dating then it is for knitted kitty sweaters

billionareHuman · 02-06-2010, 06:21 AM

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Honestly, what your asking... I don't think anybody can give you a clear answer.

that's why I'm asking for general observations, nobody can give a clear answer to this, all information can help!

James Ross · 02-06-2010, 11:46 AM

Hey Billionare,

In general, I can do it with 120 profile links/blogs unless it's really tough keyword. It also helps if the site is well established.

duatiga · 02-06-2010, 12:41 PM

it all depends on quality of backlinks and competitor.

webdango · 02-06-2010, 01:06 PM

It all depends on the competition. I've cracked top 10 with a lower competition key phrase with only a few article links, other site's have take dozens of links from dozens of different sources.

My quick method for link building

article submissions (all original, writen myself or outsourced)
wait and watch.....
Original content Blogger blog with 5 or so posts embeded content links.....
wait and watch.....
Wordpress.org blog with 5 or so posts with embeded content links.....

There are some other sites I occassionally use, but generally for a low to mid competition key phrase, I can crack top 10 with a few times through the above method.....

MarkAse · 02-06-2010, 04:42 PM

For one more basic keyword related to my site we're talking about 100. For more complex keywords we're sitting at #12 and have 7,500.

YMMV!

JadeDragon · 02-06-2010, 07:31 PM

I'm very new to this but my blog in the top 10 for a good key phrase with around 4000 backlinks (mostly forum sig links).

blackcat123 · 02-06-2010, 08:01 PM

I think assumption cannot apply everywhere. It's not possible to say about the exact number of backlinks needed to get up the rankings. It depends mainly on how strong the competitors are.

It heavily depends on the on-page optimization as well. sometimes for a less competitive keyword, you may be able to come up to the first page without any backlinks just by doing proper on-page optimization given that your domain is exactly the keyword you are targeting.

Sharpscrew · 02-06-2010, 08:08 PM

Guys if this discussion is going to have any sens you have to post at least two stats:
Number of searches lets say according to Google keywords tool and number of competing websites.
I will start I have a keyword I am trying to rank for it is a long tail keyword, 6mil competing websites, traffic 1.8 mil according to Google keywords ( this is really bad estimate) I have about 300 rank 5-8 back links and a more than a thousand lower tier backlinks like blogs, directories social bookmarks. And I am not even in top 50 in google.

02-06-2010, 04:48 AM	#2
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refernshare Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 62 Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: how many links until you cracked the top 10? I don't think there's a specific number. Depends on your niche/site competion and what keyword/s you are trying to rank for.

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billionareHuman HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 201 Thanks: 19 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	Re: how many links until you cracked the top 10? um everyone just said what I said already in my opening line, sorry to say but what a bunch of useless replies! Are you all here just to build links to your signatures?

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02-06-2010, 11:46 AM	#8
James Ross Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 52 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: how many links until you cracked the top 10? Hey Billionare, In general, I can do it with 120 profile links/blogs unless it's really tough keyword. It also helps if the site is well established.

02-06-2010, 04:36 AM	#1
billionareHuman HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 201 Thanks: 19 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	how many links until you cracked the top 10? I realize this is a very general question and there are numerous factors involved including strength of your site and competition, niche, the way you link build. However from experience I'll share with you what I've noticed in general It seems to take me about 30 profile backlinks to get ranked in the top in the 10 for non competitive niches, of course of those 30 not all are indexed yet, about 15 are indexed. For competitive phrases it seems to take about 70 links that is made up of 3 different varied phrases. I don't build 70 links to the same page with the same exact keyword as that is a surefire way to get dropped out of google, it's the most obvious thing to do and will get you dropped, it's happened to me before. Would be interesting to hear other people's observations?

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duatiga HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 134 Thanks: 5 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: how many links until you cracked the top 10? it all depends on quality of backlinks and competitor.

02-06-2010, 01:06 PM	#10
webdango HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 278 Thanks: 19 Thanked 44 Times in 30 Posts	Re: how many links until you cracked the top 10? It all depends on the competition. I've cracked top 10 with a lower competition key phrase with only a few article links, other site's have take dozens of links from dozens of different sources. My quick method for link building article submissions (all original, writen myself or outsourced) wait and watch..... Original content Blogger blog with 5 or so posts embeded content links..... wait and watch..... Wordpress.org blog with 5 or so posts with embeded content links..... There are some other sites I occassionally use, but generally for a low to mid competition key phrase, I can crack top 10 with a few times through the above method.....

02-06-2010, 04:42 PM	#11
MarkAse HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 451 Thanks: 11 Thanked 29 Times in 26 Posts	Re: how many links until you cracked the top 10? For one more basic keyword related to my site we're talking about 100. For more complex keywords we're sitting at #12 and have 7,500. YMMV!
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02-06-2010, 07:31 PM	#12
JadeDragon Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 33 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: how many links until you cracked the top 10? I'm very new to this but my blog in the top 10 for a good key phrase with around 4000 backlinks (mostly forum sig links).
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02-06-2010, 08:01 PM	#13
blackcat123 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SL Posts: 146 Thanks: 31 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: how many links until you cracked the top 10? I think assumption cannot apply everywhere. It's not possible to say about the exact number of backlinks needed to get up the rankings. It depends mainly on how strong the competitors are. It heavily depends on the on-page optimization as well. sometimes for a less competitive keyword, you may be able to come up to the first page without any backlinks just by doing proper on-page optimization given that your domain is exactly the keyword you are targeting.
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02-06-2010, 08:08 PM	#14
Sharpscrew Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: how many links until you cracked the top 10? Guys if this discussion is going to have any sens you have to post at least two stats: Number of searches lets say according to Google keywords tool and number of competing websites. I will start I have a keyword I am trying to rank for it is a long tail keyword, 6mil competing websites, traffic 1.8 mil according to Google keywords ( this is really bad estimate) I have about 300 rank 5-8 back links and a more than a thousand lower tier backlinks like blogs, directories social bookmarks. And I am not even in top 50 in google.