Is the free Deep Link Engine plugin working for you?

[magentawave]

This guy (Alex Goad) has a free WP plugin called Deep Link Engine Deep Link Engine : that is supposed to automatically create back links to your sites.

I'm wondering if anyone has been using it successfully yet? My concern is that it will create hundreds of trackbacks or pingbacks to other sites but that no one will bother to link back to my site. What do you think?

Thanks
Steve

[LivingCovers]

I've just started using it too and yet to see some results. Will get back when I get some. Here's a video that might be useful for some;

WordPress Plugin: Easy Link Building & Deep Link Engine

[magentawave]

Hey thanks I will check out that video. It would be great to get an update from you if using that plugin actually results in backlinks because my concern is that most won't bother backlinking to our sites.

Thanks again.
Steve

Originally Posted by LivingCovers

I've just started using it too and yet to see some results. Will get back when I get some. Here's a video that might be useful for some;

WordPress Plugin: Easy Link Building & Deep Link Engine

[Hiram]

This is my concern as well. I've downloaded it but have yet to install. The more I think about it, the more I'm afraid I'll just be tossing link juice to the 4 winds hoping someone links back.

Hiram

[alextsui]

Originally Posted by magentawave

I'm wondering if anyone has been using it successfully yet? My concern is that it will create hundreds of trackbacks or pingbacks to other sites but that no one will bother to link back to my site. What do you think?

Hi Steve,

I've just downloaded this plugin as well. Will put it to the test on my sites. My understanding of a trackback is that the backlink is automatically created on their site by Wordpress as long as they did not disable "trackbacks". That is why a trackback is more effective than a comment because most people monitor comments closely but not so about trackbacks.

I'm not sure, just what I've read somewhere.

Alex

[magentawave]

If what you are saying about trackbacks is true then this plugin could be worthwhile...assuming everyone doesn't moderate their comments and trackbacks like I do on all my blogs.

Steve

Originally Posted by alextsui

Hi Steve,
My understanding of a trackback is that the backlink is automatically created on their site by Wordpress as long as they did not disable "trackbacks". That is why a trackback is more effective than a comment because most people monitor comments closely but not so about trackbacks.

I'm not sure, just what I've read somewhere.

Alex

[VegasGreg]

I just started reading about that plugin and the way I understood it is that the plugin checks the sites to make sure the trackbacks are active to ensure a link.

But my concern was that you are also adding an outbound link yourself, so it will be a reciprocal link of sorts which is not the best type of linking structure.

I have not really jumped into this plugin to confirm or deny anything fully, but that was my initial thoughts.

Hopefully we can all test and share any results or observations.

[mikefort]

Yeah I was wondering about this also. I have downlaoded the plugin but have yet to use it. I'll keep watching this thread and post anything that comes to view

[magentawave]

Really? I guess I missed that about this plugin. It would probably be okay for my sites to have some outgoing links since I started using a no-follow plugin.

Steve

Originally Posted by VegasGreg

I just started reading about that plugin and the way I understood it is that the plugin checks the sites to make sure the trackbacks are active to ensure a link.

But my concern was that you are also adding an outbound link yourself, so it will be a reciprocal link of sorts which is not the best type of linking structure.

[magentawave]

I've been using the Simple Trackback Validation plugin (WordPress › Simple Trackback Validation WordPress Plugins) which apparently confirms if the trackback is spam or not and was thinking that IF it plays nice with the Deep Link Engine plugin that they might complement each other perfectly. What do you think?

Steve

[domainarama]

Results so far: nothing to write home about. Only one site so far. No change in numbers. But it's too early to tell. I'll give it another couple of weeks.

[Istvan Horvath]

Actually the plugin creates PINGBACKS - not trackbacks.
Just tested it on a dev install and made a test post with some specific words... hoping it will find a few other blogs of mine (so that I can moderate the whole thing).

It did the job: among others it found my blogs; I deleted the rest from the list, published the short post and watched as the posts on the other blogs got pinged.

[Before you ask: the difference between the pingback and trackback is that pingbacks are created when you link to another blog post right in your post; trackbacks are created only if you put the TB url of a post in the proper field, just below your writing panel! Or by spammer scripts... Being pingbacks, the TB Validation plugin will let them in peacefully ]

So, this plugin is adding links to your post: under a Related Blogs heading will list all the blogs you approved from the found list, like this:

Post title on the remote blog @ blogname

Which means, yes, it creates two-way links. On your blog they are "dofollow" links; on the remote blog it depends on their settings.

On the remote blog the ping appears as
post title | your-blog-name

It definitely needs further testing and thinking... used in moderation might provide some backlinks, although I am afraid a lot of bloggers (IMers?) will abuse it... and then people will disable even the legitimate PB/TB conversation between blogs.

[Paleochora]

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

Actually the plugin creates PINGBACKS - not trackbacks.
Just tested it on a dev install and made a test post with some specific words... hoping it will find a few other blogs of mine (so that I can moderate the whole thing).

It did the job: among others it found my blogs; I deleted the rest from the list, published the short post and watched as the posts on the other blogs got pinged.

[Before you ask: the difference between the pingback and trackback is that pingbacks are created when you link to another blog post right in your post; trackbacks are created only if you put the TB url of a post in the proper field, just below your writing panel! Or by spammer scripts... Being pingbacks, the TB Validation plugin will let them in peacefully ]

So, this plugin is adding links to your post: under a Related Blogs heading will list all the blogs you approved from the found list, like this:

Post title on the remote blog @ blogname

Which means, yes, it creates two-way links. On your blog they are "dofollow" links; on the remote blog it depends on their settings.

On the remote blog the ping appears as
post title | your-blog-name

It definitely needs further testing and thinking... used in moderation might provide some backlinks, although I am afraid a lot of bloggers (IMers?) will abuse it... and then people will disable even the legitimate PB/TB conversation between blogs.

Getting the backlinks is fine & dandy, but do I want my hard-earned visitors clicking on a list of 20 or so competitors' links which are automatically listed at the end of each of my posts? I think not.

[magentawave]

I get emails from MyArticleNetworks.com with articles I can add to my sites (or not). If I like an article I click the "publish" button. If not, I ignore that article and move on to the next. Anyway, since I started using Deep Link Engine a couple days ago, I get a "timed-out" error message back from myarticlenetworks telling me that the article didn't publish and its because that plugin is taking too long to do whatever it is doing. Soooo, I just deactivated and deleted that plugin from all my sites.

Steve

[mbphoenix]

Yeah, I downloaded this plug-in as well but have not implemented it yet. I plan to soon and will update with any new info.

[NetWorth]

I've seen it as well and I've talked to someone using it... Best i can tell no one is great results.

[patsfanxxx]

I am still reading the Auto Content Cash manual. I have downloaded the entire package, unzipped, organized etc. I even downloaded the pingback v1.6 released yesterday. I am going to attend the webinar in 45 minutes. I hope I don't get information overload as with other products I have reviewed! Although I did not purchase the program WPMAGE, I read the four months worth of forums to see the pains they are having with that product. It seems some of the procedures do take time to monitor or quantify with any of these systems. WAY too early for me to make any assessment. I hope I get something from all of you though! ~Bob

[patsfanxxx]

It was brought up at today's live webinar that for most plugins to work make sure it NOT hosting related first. You also must be using the latest PHP version as well (5.x). The webinar will be available in the ACC members area soon and an intermediate webinar is in the works.

[fitf]

No, I have the following problems. The plugin shows unrelated blogs under my post. I could not even enter the feature of managing it, since when I typed name and e-mail, the page gave error.
SO, I decided to remove it. I removed it, deleted totally, HOWEVER the 'Related Blogs' STILL appear under my posts, making my blog totally unfunctioning and myself losing revenues.
Changing to Html mode ioa totally IMPOSSIBLE, sinve I have many many posts. It will take a life time!
IS THERE A SOLUTION?

[magentawave]

That is a really good question that I would love to know the answer to also. Can anyone help us with this issue of how to remove the deep link engine stuff AFTER the plugin has been removed? Is there some folder in our cpanel that we need to clean out or delete?

Thanks
Steve

Originally Posted by fitf

No, I have the following problems. The plugin shows unrelated blogs under my post. I could not even enter the feature of managing it, since when I typed name and e-mail, the page gave error.
SO, I decided to remove it. I removed it, deleted totally, HOWEVER the 'Related Blogs' STILL appear under my posts, making my blog totally unfunctioning and myself losing revenues.
Changing to Html mode ioa totally IMPOSSIBLE, sinve I have many many posts. It will take a life time!
IS THERE A SOLUTION?

[patsfanxxx]

I found this piece from another forum that may help. Other than this 'fix' everything seems to be plug-in-specific

Uninstalling Plugins:

You can uninstall a plugin using the following command:

/usr/local/cpanel/bin/unregister_plugin <name of install file>

[mistyone]

Originally Posted by magentawave

That is a really good question that I would love to know the answer to also. Can anyone help us with this issue of how to remove the deep link engine stuff AFTER the plugin has been removed? Is there some folder in our cpanel that we need to clean out or delete?

Thanks
Steve

I have seen that the list of 'related blogs' is at the bottom of each post, so go into - edit post and scroll down to the bottom of the post and you will see the text for the sites at the bottom of the post. Just remove it.

If you have a theme that allows you to edit the post from viewing it in it's URL then it should be reasonably quick to remove otherwise you will have to edit each post since the day you installed the plugin.

It isn't a fast fix but it will remove the links.

Hope this helps.

[mistyone]

Originally Posted by Paleochora

Getting the backlinks is fine & dandy, but do I want my hard-earned visitors clicking on a list of 20 or so competitors' links which are automatically listed at the end of each of my posts? I think not.

You can change the number of links and search results. I have mine set to five. You can also change whether you want to call it 'related blogs' or not. I have changed mine

I do find it slows things down when publishing a post manually so I guess it does when you do an auto-post as well. It may not look like it has posted but if you go back to 'edit posts' you will see the post has showed up and the deep-links are there.

I am still unsure if I want to keep it or not.

[magentawave]

I just wrote that your idea didn't work but it actually does so I'm back to correct that. Thank you. Still would like to find a global way of removing this stuff though!

Thanks
Steve

Originally Posted by mistyone

I have seen that the list of 'related blogs' is at the bottom of each post, so go into - edit post and scroll down to the bottom of the post and you will see the text for the sites at the bottom of the post. Just remove it.

If you have a theme that allows you to edit the post from viewing it in it's URL then it should be reasonably quick to remove otherwise you will have to edit each post since the day you installed the plugin.

It isn't a fast fix but it will remove the links.

Hope this helps.

[domainarama]

Set all the numbers to 0 That doesn't remove this puppy but it cuts off its air supply

[magentawave]

But if you aren't going to use the plugin then why would you want to keep it?

Steve

Originally Posted by domainarama

Set all the numbers to 0 That doesn't remove this puppy but it cuts off its air supply

[domainarama]

A few messages ago patsfanxxx wrote instructions which seemed complicated/bothersome to me. If you wanna go complicated, be my guest.

[magentawave]

Okay, but why not just delete the plugin so its not sucking up resources if you're not going to use it?

Originally Posted by domainarama

A few messages ago patsfanxxx wrote instructions which seemed complicated/bothersome to me. If you wanna go complicated, be my guest.

[patsfanxxx]

Great to have a smartass here domainrama, great to have encouragement in these forums.

[patsfanxxx]

For anyone who cares, I was able to deactivate and delete this plugin from my test dot info site from the drop down as well as purge the database on GoDaddy. I'll end my post on this topic, sorry I couldn't have been more help. ~Bob

[josephcounseling]

I am getting curious for this plugin and finally i m downloading it. I hope it will create some backlink automatically for my website

[marck_don]

Awesome collection of information! I'm not to technologically savvy but you tell it in English. Thanks very much!http://questionaries.org/ask

[agha]

why so many related blog in below my post? and it's not my blog? is oK?

[dv8domainsDotCom]

Don't want to revive this if it's too dead or dying, but to help Agha out:

This plugin operates by finding 5 (or whatever you set) keyword-related blog posts to essentially "randomly link" to. This "outgoing link" from your blog sends what is called a "ping" to the post that was linked. Those 5 links that you are sending OUT from YOUR blog, are with the hopes that the blog-owners have left the pingbacks enabled on their own blog. A "pingback" is a way for the blog that YOU linked to, to allow it's readers to know that somewhere in cyberspace, someone linked to it (blogs know these things through pinging each other, or at least attempting to).

SO: you out-link to 5 blogs (or w/e setting), and *cross fingers* for their blog to be ping-aware get that ping-back to your site.
This is effectively link-exchange for blogging, automated. Whether the links "stick" or not amounts to quite a bit of luck on if the linked-to blog 1) has this feature and 2) has it turned on to auto-approve. VERY hit and miss, and unlikely it was super effective as the topic died down without a lot of positive feedback.
(Pingback and trackback spam, essentially).

If you read "between the lines" from above, you'll see that nobody gave any rave reviews, and most that came back to comment said they un-installed. You are welcome to try as you wish though Good luck and let us know if you have any better luck

[majick]

Hey everyone, realize this is a bit of an old thread but I've recently developed a similar plugin for doing pingbacks. The main problem I see with DLE is due to the relevency issues: people use it, send a bunch of irrelevent pings, which get seen as spam because of the irrelevency and don't get approved and then anyone but autobloggers sending masses of links to get one or two on pot luck abandon using it.

At the moment my plugin Pingback Pro (that's a WSO link btw) lets you spider-search for relevent posts, add the ones you choose to a list and ping them. The pingbacks are displayed in a customizable table under your post (using custom metadata not adding it the to the post content.)

I am working towards increasing the automation of the plugin at the moment, what I do not want to turn it into is a spam tool, though of course any tool can be abused, the better it is made the less likely that is. (power tools have safety guards don't they?)

and the solution to this seems to be to make sure there is a much greater filtering by relevency. currently it works by letting you search for keywords you like, ranking the results by relevency scoring so you can further choose posts which are relevent. I am thinking though it would be faster though to spider a much larger list of posts and rank them by even better scoring methods, producing an even better list, then allow the user to remove any truly irrelevent posts at the top of the list before pinging them in order (as some pings still fail for technical reasons a longer list than what you need would be better.) Well, at least that's my plan for the next few days. :-)

But that is more for autoblogging, or for creating backlinks to old posts on a more mass basis, (which would be nice!) ... meanwhile the plugin works great for anyone wanting to start getting relevent backlinks to their posts, at the moment it only takes about a few minutes to find and ping up to 10 sites (and it is limited to that intentionally to prevent the mass linking list silliness mentioned earlier in this thread.)

any questions, feedback, or suggestions for further features etc would be welcomed as it is being actively developed at the moment. enjoy, Tony.

[dagaul101]

It's always a good idea to know what the sites are that are getting your backlinks, you don't want to find out later that your site has been penalised for propagating links on content farms

[johnrapp]

so... what's the final verdict doods??

is this deep link engine a pile of shyte, or is it helpful?