How did I accidentally claim this Google #1 spot? Someone please tell me

Jaspry · 03-21-2010, 06:17 PM

Literally two weeks ago I started my new blog. I have not even started promoting it.

dirtysmoke .com

It jumped to Google spot #5 it seems instantly for KW "dirty smoke". I expected that much. I figured it would take quite a few months to take #1 spot.

A few days later, I'm #1. Unexpected!

My age? Infant.
Backlinks? Maybe 1 or 2.
SEO? Newbie.
Content? Handful of blog posts.

So can someone please tell me how I beat the #2 spot which has SO much more backlinks, age, authority!? The answer to this question will help me with future projects.

Jaspry · 03-21-2010, 06:23 PM

Well I'd like to know how it happened so that in the future it could be intentional, not accidental

is it because my domain name matches the keywords? If so, I will focus my domain on specific keywords. OR did I do something right in creating it?

I'd simply like someone to check it out and tell me what may have helped it take #1

Lisa Gergets · 03-21-2010, 06:24 PM

It's a phenomena that's pretty common. When a site is brand-spankin'-new, it'll show up as being really high up, but give it a couple days and it'll settle down to it's "real" spot. Also, when checking your own sites, go to Scroogle.org to check. Your cookies on your computer affects your position when you check on your own sites' positions.

Tsnyder · 03-21-2010, 06:27 PM

You got it because the phrase "dirty smoke" receives
very few searches and has little competition. It's easy
to rank for a keyword nobody cares about.

Tsnyder

Jaspry · 03-21-2010, 06:34 PM

Tsynder,

"nobody cares about" sounds a bit harsh. it may be true, but it is my domain name after all..

Dirty Smoke is NOT my target keyword. I have no intention to optimise or monetize this site for that kw. I noticed I was getting traffic through searches on "dirty smoke" and realised that I had #1 spot.

I simply wanted to know why I overtook the other site which seems to have way better optimisation for the term "dirty smoke".

Tsnyder · 03-21-2010, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaspry

Tsynder,

"nobody cares about" sounds a bit harsh. it may be true, but it is my domain name after all..

Dirty Smoke is NOT my target keyword. I have no intention to optimise or monetize this site for that kw. I noticed I was getting traffic through searches on "dirty smoke" and realised that I had #1 spot.

I simply wanted to know why I overtook the other site which seems to have way better optimisation for the term "dirty smoke".

I didn't mean to sound harsh. My point is that very few site owners
seem to care enough about that phrase to emphasize it and very few
people seem to care enough about it to search for it.

The fact that it is your domain name is probably enough to get you the ranking
since... as I said... nobody seems to care about it.

Tsnyder

Jaspry · 03-21-2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totoy Mola

110 for exact and 320 for phrase...

People complains most of the time that they are not getting traffic even though their site are on the first position. They don't realized the above data.. LOL...

Where did you get this data? Goog KW tool reports diff values

The information I am gathering is not for dirty smoke, it's for another web project i am working on in which the domain name is the exact keyword I am looking to overtake.

Jaspry · 03-21-2010, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsnyder

I didn't mean to sound harsh. My point is that very few site owners
seem to care enough about that phrase to emphasize it and very few
people seem to care enough about it to search for it.

The fact that it is your domain name is probably enough to get you the ranking
since... as I said... nobody seems to care about it.

Tsnyder

Understood. But for a KW such as "muscle growth supplements", a domain name "muscle-growth-supplements .com" (or .net) would give it a good momentum in the race to take google #1? I understand SEO is necessary.. but I am learning now that KW in domain name seems to be one of the most valuable assets - which is probably why I overtook that article site with KW in title, url and 164 inbound links

Barry Unruh · 03-21-2010, 06:50 PM

From an analytical standpoint...

Your domain name is the only one optimized on the first page. You have 11 backlinks to page reported by Market Samurai, where the second spot has 32, not a huge difference.

Even though you claim it is not optimized for the keyword, you have multiple instances of the phrase "dirty smoke" on the page, plus the auxilary term "dirty smoker" even more times, as part of your signature.

Your title, and heading are optimized for the keyword.

Continuing on, while there are approximately 101,000 competing pages, only 8000 are using the term dirty smoke in their titles. The keyword phrase is searched only about 50 times per day, so not a big target for competitors. There is no adwords traffic.

Factor in the newness factor...and you are now #1.

From your personal standpoint, it is a good start to your site. You now have one phrase you are working great on, and can continue to use factors like mentioned above, to target more phrases to keep expanding the terms you rank highly on and can capture traffic from.

Jaspry · 03-21-2010, 06:55 PM

Amazing, KansasDragon! That's exactly what I wanted to know. I'll have to check out this market samurai! Thanks!

(The mention of my website in my sig helps my promotion!? i thought forum posts didn't help)

seasoned · 03-21-2010, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsnyder

You got it because the phrase "dirty smoke" receives
very few searches and has little competition. It's easy
to rank for a keyword nobody cares about.

Tsnyder

AND it matches the domain nname 100%. But YEAH, BAD keywords usually rank high. It is EASY to get a #1 ranking on google. NOBODY CARES!!!!!!!!!!!! What is difficult is getting a #1 ranking on REAL terms that people actually use!

Steve

DogScout · 03-21-2010, 08:47 PM

They want BBQ

Kella Bella · 03-21-2010, 09:09 PM

Wow congrats looks like you might have hit a potentially untapped market :-)

lmeyer · 03-21-2010, 11:25 PM

Kansas Dragon nailed it completely.

The tool I use is showing that 6 of the top 10 sites have a PR of 0 and 6 of them show 0 backlinks, the others show only a couple and then the one with 30. This combined with your domain name and relative content, and you got a great spot.

Richnana · 03-22-2010, 02:23 AM

Why not turn it into a Stop smoking theme site and sell stop smoking products, ebooks, etc. since you already have the spot use it.

Shaun Lee · 03-22-2010, 06:44 AM

This is my opinion regarding your accidental success:

1. Your domain name contained your main keyword.

2. The competition for the keyword was low.

3. Your content and website was somehow fully optimized for your keyword.

-Shaun

pks1967 · 03-22-2010, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa Gergets

It's a phenomena that's pretty common. When a site is brand-spankin'-new, it'll show up as being really high up, but give it a couple days and it'll settle down to it's "real" spot. Also, when checking your own sites, go to Scroogle.org to check. Your cookies on your computer affects your position when you check on your own sites' positions.

Lisa,

Thanks for the Scroogle link. I've never seen that before. It's really a good resource.

Brad

paulgl · 03-22-2010, 09:00 AM

Come on people, if anyone thinks that dirty smoke
is a real keyphrase, then man are you smoking something.

I could buy xyandz.com and rank #1 the first day for xyandz
and again, the point is?!?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richnana

Why not turn it into a Stop smoking theme site and sell stop smoking products, ebooks, etc. since you already have the spot use it.

Because people would search for how to quit smoking.

Paul

Jaspry · 03-22-2010, 12:50 PM

Who ever said I was going to sell stop-smoking products? if I wanted to do that I would have reflected that desire in my domain name.

This is a blog to help people quit smoking but not through products necessarily, and I do not want to market this for money making. I have other websites for that; this is a personal blog.

I was only asking how i beat out a bigger website and then people start criticising me for my choice in domain name. Ouch, guys.

By this logic the people over at Gizmodo made a big mistake for not registering "techgadgets.com", for as "gizmodo" is not a popular keyword.

But I forgot that stiff SEO minded people leave out no room for branding. *ahem*

Nice sparring with you all, your information was very helpful

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03-21-2010, 06:27 PM	#4
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Barry Unruh Loving The Philippines War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pampanga, Philippines Posts: 1,737 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 478 Thanked 668 Times in 475 Posts Contact Info	Re: How did I accidentally claim this Google #1 spot? Someone please tell me From an analytical standpoint... Your domain name is the only one optimized on the first page. You have 11 backlinks to page reported by Market Samurai, where the second spot has 32, not a huge difference. Even though you claim it is not optimized for the keyword, you have multiple instances of the phrase "dirty smoke" on the page, plus the auxilary term "dirty smoker" even more times, as part of your signature. Your title, and heading are optimized for the keyword. Continuing on, while there are approximately 101,000 competing pages, only 8000 are using the term dirty smoke in their titles. The keyword phrase is searched only about 50 times per day, so not a big target for competitors. There is no adwords traffic. Factor in the newness factor...and you are now #1. From your personal standpoint, it is a good start to your site. You now have one phrase you are working great on, and can continue to use factors like mentioned above, to target more phrases to keep expanding the terms you rank highly on and can capture traffic from.
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03-21-2010, 06:55 PM	#10
Jaspry HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny California Posts: 118 Thanks: 24 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Re: How did I accidentally claim this Google #1 spot? Someone please tell me Amazing, KansasDragon! That's exactly what I wanted to know. I'll have to check out this market samurai! Thanks! (The mention of my website in my sig helps my promotion!? i thought forum posts didn't help)

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03-21-2010, 06:17 PM	#1
Jaspry HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny California Posts: 118 Thanks: 24 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	How did I accidentally claim this Google #1 spot? Someone please tell me Literally two weeks ago I started my new blog. I have not even started promoting it. dirtysmoke .com It jumped to Google spot #5 it seems instantly for KW "dirty smoke". I expected that much. I figured it would take quite a few months to take #1 spot. A few days later, I'm #1. Unexpected! My age? Infant. Backlinks? Maybe 1 or 2. SEO? Newbie. Content? Handful of blog posts. So can someone please tell me how I beat the #2 spot which has SO much more backlinks, age, authority!? The answer to this question will help me with future projects.

03-21-2010, 06:23 PM	#2
Jaspry HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny California Posts: 118 Thanks: 24 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Re: How did I accidentally claim this Google #1 spot? Someone please tell me Well I'd like to know how it happened so that in the future it could be intentional, not accidental is it because my domain name matches the keywords? If so, I will focus my domain on specific keywords. OR did I do something right in creating it? I'd simply like someone to check it out and tell me what may have helped it take #1

03-21-2010, 06:34 PM	#5
Jaspry HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny California Posts: 118 Thanks: 24 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Re: How did I accidentally claim this Google #1 spot? Someone please tell me Tsynder, "nobody cares about" sounds a bit harsh. it may be true, but it is my domain name after all.. Dirty Smoke is NOT my target keyword. I have no intention to optimise or monetize this site for that kw. I noticed I was getting traffic through searches on "dirty smoke" and realised that I had #1 spot. I simply wanted to know why I overtook the other site which seems to have way better optimisation for the term "dirty smoke".

03-21-2010, 09:09 PM	#13
Kella Bella Kelly Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 198 Thanks: 149 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	Re: How did I accidentally claim this Google #1 spot? Someone please tell me Wow congrats looks like you might have hit a potentially untapped market :-)

03-21-2010, 11:25 PM	#14
lmeyer Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 49 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: How did I accidentally claim this Google #1 spot? Someone please tell me Kansas Dragon nailed it completely. The tool I use is showing that 6 of the top 10 sites have a PR of 0 and 6 of them show 0 backlinks, the others show only a couple and then the one with 30. This combined with your domain name and relative content, and you got a great spot.

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03-22-2010, 12:50 PM	#19
Jaspry HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny California Posts: 118 Thanks: 24 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Re: How did I accidentally claim this Google #1 spot? Someone please tell me Who ever said I was going to sell stop-smoking products? if I wanted to do that I would have reflected that desire in my domain name. This is a blog to help people quit smoking but not through products necessarily, and I do not want to market this for money making. I have other websites for that; this is a personal blog. I was only asking how i beat out a bigger website and then people start criticising me for my choice in domain name. Ouch, guys. By this logic the people over at Gizmodo made a big mistake for not registering "techgadgets.com", for as "gizmodo" is not a popular keyword. But I forgot that stiff SEO minded people leave out no room for branding. ahem Nice sparring with you all, your information was very helpful