Can article spinner software really fool google?

[ohcn]

I am struggling with concept of the article spinner software. Is it really useful or dangerous? It saves time for sure, but I don't want my site to be banned just because of using software.

[Marko Vel]

For me useful, if you write 1 original article and spin that article with 4-5 new variations, you will get 1000 or more unique articles in the eye of Google.

[ohcn]

what do yo mean by "4-5 new variations"?

[TomBond]

If the software is advanced then it's possible. I believe people get good results with UAW

[ohcn]

what is "UAW?"

[Glassjaw009]

Great Question. There has been a lot of talk recently about article spinning software and if it works or not. You'll get a lot of short answers like "yes" or "no" or whatever, but what it really comes down to is how you use it.

Bing has stated that an article must be 300 words of more for it to get indexed. Google doesn't like indexing things that aren't at least 30% unique. I'm willing to be a lot of the people that use rewriters and say they don't work are running into these issues. It's extremely possible that if your article is 28% unique, you won't see it stick in the SERPS very long.

To sum it up, article re-writing works and it works well if you know how to spin articles. make sure your new articles stick to the guidelines above to get them indexed and ranked, but also remember that most spun articles are grammatically incorrect. Don't expect extremely high conversion rates on spun articles as you would normally see with a good, unique article. Hope this helps.

The real benefit on spinning is you get a lot of mediocre quality traffic. that's it.

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by Glassjaw009

Google doesn't like indexing things that aren't at least 30% unique.

You hurt and abuse, tellin' all of your lies
Run 'round sweet baby, lord, how they hypnotize

"President Barack Obama speaks about health care reform at the University of Iowa in Iowa City"

[BobJutsu]

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

You hurt and abuse, tellin' all of your lies
Run 'round sweet baby, lord, how they hypnotize

"President Barack Obama speaks about health care reform at the University of Iowa in Iowa City"

Yep...I think what the bird man is saying is that Google will, as a matter of fact, index varying levels of non-original content.

I am inclined to agree. Though it is purely anecdotal (though, what Google commentary isn't anecdotal), what I have seen is that spun articles stick pretty well for a while. Even just blasting out the same content all over the place, it is usually all indexed and then begins to fall off after a while...but by then I have blasted out a ton more anyway, so it is a matter of staying ahead of the curve.

[Marakatapolis]

The best is 400-500 words and 37% or greater unique. (from what I know). For example, I use The Best Spinner and do the synonyms and word phrases myself, so I know it will read well no matter which word/phrase comes up. It takes an hour or less per article, but you can then output 100 variations into a zip file, and if you have it 37-50%+ uniqueness, then that is a lot of decent quality content to spread around. And if you save the file already in spin syntax, you can just load that up into ArticleBot and submit it and a different variation to dozens or hundreds of article directories.

Or grab a variation from your zip file and slap it on Squidoo, Hubpages or some other Web 2.0 property.

Anyways, spinners done right, save a lot of time. The junk ones are the ones which auto-generate the content, but if you do the spinning syntax yourself, then you know what kind of iterations you will end up with.

[Glassjaw009]

Google doesn't "like" indexing non unique content.

[4morereferrals]

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

You hurt and abuse, tellin' all of your lies
Run 'round sweet baby, lord, how they hypnotize

"President Barack Obama speaks about health care reform at the University of Iowa in Iowa City"

A+ and a shout out for the killer Zep reference.

The BGMacaw always rocks

[frqhuss]

Article spinner does work and it will be rank well if it is on hot niche but the thing is that article should have atleast a change of 35%-55% ......

[alf82]

I have it and spoke with the developer who is OK, but it only fooled Google for 10 minutes...and they don't tell you if you are put in the Sand Box. My own take is that the "duplicate content" issue is way overrated. I worked 2 years on a golf site with my business partner who is a PGA professional and who shot a 50 last year at St. Andrews, qualified for the US Open, etc., etc.
Everything was totally original - and we are not even in the top 850,000.
To answer your question:
If you want to use that software, you must also re-arrange whole paragraphs and spin no more than 5 times. Then you have to re edit the whole thing again tio make sure...and if you have any intention of using affiliate links...it's a real problem
I have found it easier and better to simple rewrite the whole article.
Besides, others can tell a post like that and delete it as spam in 5 seconds. I do.
I also made the same mistake that I am guessing you did which was to listen to that fraud Michael Jones. DON'T!!!
Registering for 120 MU blogs linking to Blogger in the hope that you will get back links is a joke...a joke which cost me 2 months of my life.
I have found that my AW stats - hits on your server - went way up when I just started ONE blog and redirecting the main site. You can see it here at loseweight-keepfit dot com/blog All the best

[hurn]

you can do submit to article directories. it is better rather than using in your site.

[ramccluskey]

I don't think it is a question of 'fooling Google.' Google runs a business that needs unique content, which it sells to advertisers as an advertising medium. Google has chosen to define "unique content" by some criteria that make sense for their business. I run a business selling them that content. They determine whether my content meets their criteria and if it does, they buy it from me. They don't ask how I produce it because they don't care. I don't tell them how I produce it. I assume that if I am successful, they are successful.

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by distinctly_digital

If the software is advanced then it's possible. I believe people get good results with UAW

The reason that UAW works is that articles are spread all over the
Internet, and across countless IP addresses. I don't use the plugin
on my blogs because some of the content is simply not good enough.
I like to maintain quality control.

HTH

Glenn

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by Glassjaw009

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Bing has stated that an article must be 300 words of more for it to get indexed. Google doesn't like indexing things that aren't at least 30% unique. I'm willing to be a lot of the people that use rewriters and say they don't work are running into these issues. It's extremely possible that if your article is 28% unique, you won't see it stick in the SERPS very long.
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You only need 30% uniqueness if you use all the content on your
own site. If you needed unique content across the Internet, then
article marketing wouldn't work. We all know it works rather well.

HTH

Glenn

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by Glassjaw009

Google doesn't "like" indexing non unique content.

I presume you mean the same article posted on a number of blogs?

That being the case, you are wrong here. Google is quite happy to
index, and rank the same article found on several blogs, websites,
and other CMS's.

Case in point. If you needed unique content before Google indexes
pages, then article marketing wouldn't work. It works extremely
well. So well in fact, that an article I wrote some years ago, is still
getting me unique back links to this very day. There isn't a week
go by when another new link or two back to my site is unearthed
by Google.

HTH

Glenn

[Dan B Rusu]

Lets say I upload an article to ezine, then I want to spin that article and resubmit to ezine under the same account. To what uniqueness % do I need to spin for the article to be accepted?

What about with buzzle, who only accepts unique content.

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by alf82

I have it and spoke with the developer who is OK, but it only fooled Google for 10 minutes...and they don't tell you if you are put in the Sand Box.

You spoke to which developer? You need to quote
the software for that comment to mean anything.

Originally Posted by alf82

My own take is that the "duplicate content" issue is way overrated. I worked 2 years on a golf site with my business partner who is a PGA professional and who shot a 50 last year at St. Andrews, qualified for the US Open, etc., etc.
Everything was totally original - and we are not even in the top 850,000.

There are several factors in geting ranked. Having
'Unique' content is just one facet. What about on-
page and off-page SEO? What about site structure?
What about internal linking? If I was involved with
that website, you'd be cracking the top page on a
number of keywords. I would also have used a
number of under served keywords, where there is
no competition at all.

Originally Posted by alf82

To answer your question:
If you want to use that software, you must also re-arrange whole paragraphs and spin no more than 5 times. Then you have to re edit the whole thing again tio make sure...and if you have any intention of using affiliate links...it's a real problem

I have thousands of spun articles that have links
embedded, both affiliate, and back links. They're
a very effective method for me.

Originally Posted by alf82

I have found it easier and better to simple rewrite the whole article.
Besides, others can tell a post like that and delete it as spam in 5 seconds. I do.

You're obviously doing this wrong. You need to
start off with a good article, and then only use
quality content in your pin points. You'd be hard
pressed to tell the difference between the original
article, and any of my spun versions. They all read
very well.

Originally Posted by alf82

I also made the same mistake that I am guessing you did which was to listen to that fraud Michael Jones. DON'T!!!
Registering for 120 MU blogs linking to Blogger in the hope that you will get back links is a joke...a joke which cost me 2 months of my life.

Oh yeah? that all that money in my Clickbank
account must be an illusion.

Originally Posted by alf82

I have found that my AW stats - hits on your server - went way up when I just started ONE blog and redirecting the main site. You can see it here at loseweight-keepfit dot com/blog All the best

If this is working for you, then good luck to ya.
I'm gonna continue to do the things that work
well for me.

All the best

Glenn

[Glenn Leader]

You need to be careful to what you listen to. A lot
of people will post their opinion. Often this opinion
isn't based on any work they've done, or they base
it on their limited experiences.

For the record, and this isn't opinion, just cold hard
facts.

Listen up. I've been spinning articles long before
most people ever heard of it. For well over seven
years in fact. Along the way, I've made mistakes,
as well as good guesses as to what works, and what
doesn't. All my guesses were tested thoroughly
before they entered into my daily methods. So I'm
talking from a position of strength here. I even
worked out a way to use spun articles with Traffic
Equalizer.

I have a number of blogs on free platforms, as well
as on my own servers. These are filled with spun
versions of the same seed articles. Each spun
variation has it's own keyword, and has affiliate and
backlinks embedded within the text. Not only are
most of my blogs fully indexed, but giving me my
desired results. either a click on my affiliate links,
or a free link-back to my desired site/blog.

These articles are posted organically, and usually,
no more often than one a day at random times.
My system handles this completely on automatic
control, save setting up the blogs, and entering
the information into 'the system'.

I prefer to work smart, not hard. I'm prepared to
put the ground work into developing as system
that works for me, and buying what I need if I
can't develop that part of my system yet.
Investment is more than just spending money, it's
about investing time in developing a unique system
that works. Any one of you can outsource this
development work yourself, and get a workable
solution for less than $500. This might sound like a
lot of money, and it is, but your return is many
fold.

I expand my system a blog at a time, based on the
research I carry out before embarking on a new
niche. Each morning, I add new blogs to my
empire, just one or two a day, and spend no more
than ten minutes doing it. While my coffee is
cooling in fact. I use a spread sheet for keeping
track of what I'm doing which also has the details
of future blogs to build. Next week, I plan to
outsource the blog building, so it's completely
hands free for me.

HTH

Glenn

[LindseyRainwater]

I'm really interested in article spinning software, just because I've never seen it at work.

I've been being hired to spin articles manually, taking the article and then writing 4 completely new sentences for each original sentence. This seems to be very popular.

I guess my curiosity comes from the thought that if article spinning software did the same thing faster, it would seem to be more economical for people to just get the program.

What is the difference between having a program spin an article, or hiring a writer like me to do it all one sentence at a time? Does one or the other give better uniqueness? Or is it just the preference of the person with the original article?

[contentwriter1205]

No, there won't be any problem if you keep the uniqueness about 70 or so %. You should use a completely original article to spin. Don't copy content from other websites. It is risky. Write an original article and then spin it.

I spin articles too. If you want to use my services, you can click on the link in my signature.

[xylement]

Any good wordpress AUTO spinner plugin to recommend?

[ebrg]

If there is link between spun versions of the the same article , I do not think that google can be fooled. The link serves as a cue for google to check for spun articles, and eases the computation load.