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Old 03-25-2010, 07:08 PM   #1
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Default should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

I'm considering buying a domain that has over 700 high quality backlinks going to it, great trust factor etc.. The old owner decided to switch domains a number of months ago and put a 301 redirect on it. google has reindexed the domain etc...

My question is, if I buy the domain from him and put my own content on it, will it be difficult to get that trust/link juice back in google's eyes?

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Old 03-26-2010, 09:33 AM   #2
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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

if you don't end up buying it, let me know, I may buy it myself!

anyone have input on this issue?
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Old 03-26-2010, 09:49 AM   #3
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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

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I'm considering buying a domain that has over 700 high quality backlinks going to it, great trust factor etc.. The old owner decided to switch domains a number of months ago and put a 301 redirect on it. google has reindexed the domain etc...

My question is, if I buy the domain from him and put my own content on it, will it be difficult to get that trust/link juice back in google's eyes?

Do you want to drastically change all of the content which is already there? If so, why are you buying this aged domain to begin with...for the backlinks?


There are tons of cheap backlinking services out there now, so why would you want to do that? Adding content is one thing, but completely changing things up?


If that were the case, I am sure there are other more empty domains which are aged, which you could work with.


As for your own content...it only becomes difficult if your content is really lacking, or if your marketing skills are lacking. Take note of what the original website owner has done, they have constantly been working on the website getting 700 backlinks, right?


IF so, you should expect to have to do the same once you get it, regardless of whose name is on it. That's the price of the website: it's maintenance and upkeep. So if you are not willing to do whatever is already being done, then I would expect google to really make it difficult for you to keep your standings up.

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Old 03-26-2010, 10:03 AM   #4
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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

You should not buy a domain with that as a reason.
Over time, those 700 backlinks will be discontinued or
devalued to nothing.

If you think the domain is cool, then whatever extra you
get is just icing on the cake.

But I think you are assuming way too much as far as traffic
and PR go right off the bat.

If it does indeed have a 301 redirect from the original owner,
why would he give that up?

And that bit about google "re-indexing" it. Why was it de-indexed?

You may be getting a white elephant with too many negatives.

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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

I am buying it because it is a known domain in the forex niche, with reviews on forexpeacearmy etc... and some of those backlinks are very high PR and would be very difficult to obtain with a "cheap backlinking service"

My main question is about the 301 redirect, if it takes google a long time to reindex a 301 permanent redirect after it has been removed, and how long it takes for them to restore the "trust" and link juice (and rankings) to the domain
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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

If a site has been de-indexed by google, I would stay
away from it. Those backlinks don't count as much as
you think. have you checked the PR of site you with
to buy? There's a difference in buying a domain and buying
a site.

Now if you had said that you want the domain, and change
the 301 redirect to your site, well, that may work better.

Whether you do that or just build the site on the domain,
expect a long haul back up the rankings.

There is no 1 to 1 swap. Even the current 301 redirect does
not keep all PR.

Nobody knows how long it will take. Probably the same as
buying and using a whole new domain.

You sound as if your mind is made up. So, go for it and tell us
how it all works out.

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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

the site isn't "deindexed" in google, but google has already indexed it as a 301 redirect. So thats why I was wondering if google will come back and re-index the site once I put real content on it, and give that link count back.
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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

I see what Paul is saying, that once you start messing with stuff like 301 directs it can take some work to get back up in the rankings. I've bought a lot of aged domains and "revived" them back into rankings and it definitely didn't take as long as a brand new domain. But these never had 301s on them.

Anyone have experience with a scenario just like this, reviving a domain that had a 301 on it?
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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

I think you should better check those backlinks first! Find out from what source they are coming in! It is quite easy to accumulate 700 links which do not have any sense but it is highly difficult to accumulate quality links...

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Check Backlinks before buying the domain. You said he has put 301 redirect, so i think he may have those backlinks for new domain.

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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

I think it would depend on the price, at the right price it may not be bad to buy it

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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

If you remove the redirect, keep the current content but add an equal amount more of quality content (not regurgitated stuff) then do this after you clean up the blog a bit for freshness:

1. ping the site through pingler
2. resubmit the rss feed to as many feed directories you have
3. add social bookmarking
4. use the top news channels for blog commenting (think news corp.)

It will take you about a week to get reindexed and climbing the serps.

Been there. Done that. Just recently.
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Old 08-27-2010, 11:07 AM   #13
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Default Re: should I buy this aged forex domain with 700 backlinks?

I have been thinking of buying an aged domain that is about 10 years old and then doing a 301 to my current domain. Is this still a good idea to increase ranking, or is this no longer working as a strategy?
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