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| Ninja Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Anderson, South Carolina , USA.
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So, I have seen this in action for awhile. I decided to implement this and it totally rocks for increasing your (PR) Page Rank quickly and efficiently. The beautiful thing is, you don't need external back links from other sites. So, you don't really have to leave the home base blog. The Wikipedia Theory. Google likes Authority and things that relate to each other. The best way to describe this is like the child's word game that a lot of us used to play. This is when someone would say a random word like "Apple" the other person would say something that would relate like "pie" Apple pie. That being said, a lot of you have seen the dominate site Wikipedia. Rocking SEO, and always number 1 on the search engines for about any keyword from "Monkey Fighting" to "Under Water Basket Weaving" (Ok,may have gotten carried away.) But you get my drift. Notice, how Wikipedia has Anchor text linking to another page of theirs that relates to that topic. Such as a topic about apples and it mentions you can make apple pies out of them. This would link to another Wikipedia site called Apple Pies which would talk about what type of apples you would need for a apple pie. These would be linked to a page with the target "keyword" in the URL. The magic happens when Google and other search engines send their Spiders out to index your site for new content, once they have been pinged on a new post or rss feed. Once there, they read your sitemap.xml (extended markup language) for any new changes and updates their databases. Google loves it when you highlight,bold or underline an anchor text target keyword. (Caution- You want to make sure you are not over doing it by using the old method of keyword stuffing. Make a decent article with a nice amount of keyword density linking to other pages that have revelent keywords to other internal posts.) Setup Get a Site Map I like to say when starting out your own blog always install first Google Sitemap or something that can keep your sitemap updated and send pings to the major search engines. (Wordpress Plugins rock for this.) Writing Posts When writing posts link to other posts about the keyword topic. Example: apple.html to apple pies.html via anchor text. It can be difficult to track posts when you get up there in 100's of posts. But, there are plugins out there that you can get that you can search for certain keywords that you set up in the beginning, and have them link to other internal posts. Proof I didn't believe this until I saw one of my friends personal family blogs that was not a part of a niche or any monetization. (He had a Page Rank of 5.) I used Market Samurai to analyze his back links and my jaw dropped when he had thousands of them coming to domain. I realized after looking at them, there were all his posts linking to other posts internally. Hardly any back links from external sites. Think about it and it makes sense in the eyes of Google. I hope this was informative and when you decide to blog, start internally linking these posts to each other and see if you PR will climb in due time. |
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Hi Thanks for sharing the information here.... |
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Great info, thanks for sharing.
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Thanks Shane. This is helpful...now going to implement on my blog to check the results.
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you dont get a PR5 (or any high PR) from a "fancy" internal linking structure alone. I can be wrong...but please show proof for this since it wouldnt make ANY sense to me. You can "shape" your internal PR flow, all right, but still, without external links in you simply cannot get PR. |
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This isn't making sense to me either. Yes, there are certainly advantages to having a well-connected website with lots of links back and forth, but PR has to come from an external source somewhere. It's like swishing water around in a glass, you've got to put it in first for it to exist. Matt |
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You overemphasize sitemaps. I have never used them or see a need. All of my site is readily available from the index page. I doubt if wikipedia has a sitemap. Again, no need. Wikipedia has authority due to things beyond our control. They are what they are. Paul |
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| Ninja Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Anderson, South Carolina , USA.
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Ok, let me answer some questions that don't make sense. The site is a PR4 mistaked for (PR5) and 90% of the links are internal with about 10% back links coming from a forum. My point, is that it is made up of majority of internal links. And it is not any "fancy" structure to it. It is about making a site readable and relevant to the search engines. Matter of fact, if you don't believe me the site only has 150 index count 15 total page back links and 19 total external back links to the page. Due to the fact it is a personal page I don't really want to make it totally public. (PM me for url) Since there is a lot of strong statements being made of what Google's algorithm looks for to rank PR, it seems there are more experts here than normal and I would love some of you to look over who know better and explain to majority of the group. That way we all can learn something. |
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I think you need to research what exactly google pagerank is and how to get it. You are mixing up a whole lot of things and making a lot of assumptions. I could have 2 very high PR backlinks, and 200 internal backlinks and get a PR4. I could have 4 high PR backlinks and zero internal links and get a PR4. When you give totals of backlinks, you cannot assume all backlinks make a difference. And you can never get a true count of all backlinks. Paul |
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I dont focus on increasing PR of my sites, I just focus on getting good links.
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Wikipedia didn't get its authority because it is Wikipedia. It got it from the same SEO properties that any site can use to become an authority. The internal linking structure mentioned in the OP is the ideal method for spreading a sites PR to related pages. Each backlinkg you build to a page will also trickle through the others. You Tube, Amazon, Ezine Articles are a couple of examples of how high PR can be sent to pages with no external links. | |
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good post bro. thanks.
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It is good method of building internal linking to make onpage optimization. But you need to know that there is a limit on links on one page something like 100 max, if overloaded seems to be like keyword stuffing especially if you have article with less than 500 words
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It sounds interesting, I'll have to look into it a little further. Thanks for the post!
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Internal linking does NOT increase the PR of your home page, unless some of those internal pages have a higher PR that the home page itself. Internal linking is very useful and can help to rank deeper pages, but it doesn't give you PR. Think about it. If you created a new site and didn't get any links to it, and just linked internally, where would you get the PR from? PR is from external sources only. Internal linking done well can help to distribute this better around your site. If your friend has a PR4 it means that some of those external links that he has got must be decent ones. |
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The domain itself may be an "aged" domain with some level of authority already present. Or one of the forum posts has PR. Can you exclude his own domain and see what the PR is of the external links? If you can't do this within Market Samurai then you can do it with Yahoo Site Explorer & and any SEO plugin for Firefox (just sort the results based on page rank). I believe your technique is valid - but will more than likely be misunderstood by most. I also think that something initially gave him some PR which he has in turn expanded upon with his linking strategy (age of domain, external link etc.). Thanks for the post though - very informative! |
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I can't find Wikipedia anywhere on the first page for "Monkey Fighting," either with quotes or without. Youtube has the top two spots on Yahoo and a games site has it on Google. ~Okay, you knew someone here was gonna look it up. ~
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Internal linking should be standard onsite seo IMO, It will not magically give you a high pr BUT pr or trustrank flows over more than one hop so if you link to your homepage with anchor text from a deep page and then backlink that deep page then the pr will go to the deep page and then some of that pr will flo back to the homepage from that anchor text link. so imagine having 100 page website that all have multiple links to those 100 pages and each of the 100 pages had anchor text links back to your homepage then you would see an increase in rankings and pr of your homepage. if you dont have links to the deep pages of your site then you will not see any pr gain to your homepage from internal linking. |
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This is difficult to prove cause there is always a link you cannot refuse - it's out of your control. BUT I believe sites DO get PR for themselves cause they follow the "secrets/guidelines/whatever" Google loves. That gives them "rank" in Google's eyes. Maybe a PR1 or PR2... but they get it with no backlinks and for their own merit. Just my 2 cents and no test to prove this theory. Just seems logic. | |
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A home page generally has a higher PR because it is linked to from all pages on a site. If page B, C, and D have a PR of 3ea and all linked back to the homepage (A), then home page A will get a PR boost just from those internal links. | |
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Thanks for the information! I'll have to try this method.
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