Keyword Stuffing

fattaah · 03-31-2010, 01:05 AM

Hi all,

Keyword are important part of the webpage and require the visitor attraction but repeating the same keyword many times in the web page is keyword stuffing. Can it be the reason to penalize the site by Google?

thanks

kan831019 · 03-31-2010, 01:18 AM

the Keyword ratio must be 2%-8% at all~

limochicago · 03-31-2010, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kan831019

the Keyword ratio must be 2%-8% at all~

Hi,

Can you please give some sources regarding on this? This looks interesting. I always hear penalties that Google gives to such doing but many also said that these are only myth.

Penworthington · 03-31-2010, 02:24 AM

Obviously Google isn't ever going to specify exactly what percentage you're allowed as that goes against their policy of revealing inside advice as to how their algorithms work. But through trial and error SEO experts have discovered what works, and what doesn't. 2% is reasonably safe - although 8% would be pretty deadly I think.

But this all ignores the fact that it isn't about keywords anymore anyway. It's about appealing to Google's LSI algorithms - using language more naturally, but ensuring that your content is packed with contextually related vocabulary.

You could include the keyphrase 'left handed cheesegraters' half a dozen times in an 800 word article, and still not succeed at getting it ranked effectively. Instead you should be looking to include contextually relevant language, such as cheese, food, recipe, meal, family, dinner..etc

Christian York · 03-31-2010, 02:39 AM

Yes they will penalize them if you over stuff them. You want less than 5% and to have your keywords in the first 50 words and last 50 words.

gravtex · 03-31-2010, 11:16 AM

Keyword density is a dangerous thing to use as your only measuring stick.

As has been mentioned, LSI is a big factor these days.

Also, optimal keyword density has a tendency to change so what may be perfectly optimized today may be improperly optimized tomorrow.

And Google especially tends to have multiple "sweet spots for keyword density." For example, it used to be at 3% and 8%. Today, neither of them are considered optimal. And what's optimal for Google isn't optimal for Bing.

So how do you deal with it? By all means make sure your exact keyword phrase is in your article, but beyond that, just write naturally. If you want a hint for what Google is looking for, just do a search and read all of the top 10 results. Take notes on a piece of paper and create your content.

Gary

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Penworthington www.TheMightierPen.co.uk Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Hull, UK Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking	Re: Keyword Stuffing Obviously Google isn't ever going to specify exactly what percentage you're allowed as that goes against their policy of revealing inside advice as to how their algorithms work. But through trial and error SEO experts have discovered what works, and what doesn't. 2% is reasonably safe - although 8% would be pretty deadly I think. But this all ignores the fact that it isn't about keywords anymore anyway. It's about appealing to Google's LSI algorithms - using language more naturally, but ensuring that your content is packed with contextually related vocabulary. You could include the keyphrase 'left handed cheesegraters' half a dozen times in an 800 word article, and still not succeed at getting it ranked effectively. Instead you should be looking to include contextually relevant language, such as cheese, food, recipe, meal, family, dinner..etc
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Christian York Making Life Happen War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 196 Thanks: 20 Thanked 42 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Keyword Stuffing Yes they will penalize them if you over stuff them. You want less than 5% and to have your keywords in the first 50 words and last 50 words.

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gravtex Gary Ruplinger War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Keyword Stuffing Keyword density is a dangerous thing to use as your only measuring stick. As has been mentioned, LSI is a big factor these days. Also, optimal keyword density has a tendency to change so what may be perfectly optimized today may be improperly optimized tomorrow. And Google especially tends to have multiple "sweet spots for keyword density." For example, it used to be at 3% and 8%. Today, neither of them are considered optimal. And what's optimal for Google isn't optimal for Bing. So how do you deal with it? By all means make sure your exact keyword phrase is in your article, but beyond that, just write naturally. If you want a hint for what Google is looking for, just do a search and read all of the top 10 results. Take notes on a piece of paper and create your content. Gary