Any of you guys using `Link-racer` and how you finding the membership.

[jimkirk1943]

Hi guys,

Just read the WSO for Brians `Link Racer` and have to say it looks fantastic for getting article backlinks to add diversity to my links building and so much better than Magic Article Submitter which i think is a great piece of softwear but the articles directorys it submits to look of a very very low standard and i`ve still got 100`s of articles waiting for review after 4 months so i guess their never going to make it.

but back to `Link racer` are any of you guys using it with good results and can anybody see how this could dangerous or damage a sites trust in googles eyes by using ???

Cheers Jim

[Gary Becks]

I have heard mixed results on it but ultimately decided to pass because of the complaints that I heard.

Many people have said they they saw very few links showing up which sounds like a waste to me. Your results may differ though and they also have a $12 special so if you decide to give it a test run and decide that you don't like it you haven't really lost much.

[jimkirk1943]

Anybody else used link-racer or heard anything good or bad about the service ?

[webtrix]

I've seen very few links coming my way...
Still, I'm not sure if I'm going to extend my membership, thinking about giving them a second chance. Or not.

BTW; There is a new service called SEOLinkvine to be launched soon. You go and try that, and we'll exchange our experiences [IMG]http://********************/BN/BN.gif[/IMG]

[4morereferrals]

His paypal is shut off ... that does happen ...

The backlinks results are the key. Are you getting any?

You dont get a report of where the links were placed - you have to wait for them to show up in google or YSE ? Did I read that right?

Ive seen a short list of the sites ... not sure there is a LONG list actually. I could never really tell what I was actually buying - could you? Does he have 150? 250? 500? of 5000 sites to get links from. It was so obfuscated to me its seemed intentionally confusing.

And if this cat is the same drag racing Brian Prins I googled ...

See the similarities? The race car was at one time in the sig/avatar ?
Prison Phone Calls? Pretty sure same dude. Doesnt appear to be dude's first rodeo with a problematic business adventure.

Google

Imma take a giant pass on this one. I had this one in my sites for a larger offline seo consulting gig where we need / want 1,000s of links, across various networks and $$$ is not too big an issue - so we're going for em all. but alas - next.

[Enfusia]

I'm using SEO Link Vine and so fare 9 days ago I posted 3 articles they have been submitted to 30 sites and only 2 postings have been excepted none have been rejected. And no, I don't write crap articles. ONE EZA article got me over 2,000 visitors in 2 years and still pulls 3 to 4 uniques a week and these articles are of a like quality.

At that rate I will rank a site about once every 20 to 30 years in a competitive niche.

[Faded_again]

Avoid. His system totally screwed up when I still had a couple of article posts left in my account. I sent him an email about this and never got a reply. I don't have time to chase up something like this.

When I receive communication containing "LOL!!!!!" and "SMILE !!!1!!" from somebody I am conducting a business transaction with, I tend to want to cut my losses and run.

[GeorgR.]

Originally Posted by Enfusia

I'm using SEO Link Vine and so fare 9 days ago I posted 3 articles they have been submitted to 30 sites and only 2 postings have been excepted none have been rejected. And no, I don't write crap articles. ONE EZA article got me over 2,000 visitors in 2 years and still pulls 3 to 4 uniques a week and these articles are of a like quality.

At that rate I will rank a site about once every 20 to 30 years in a competitive niche.

hu? you in the beta?

I read Dan's site once in a while

Best Link Building Services - Link Building - Link building Services

He does really extensive testing since i am also very interested in those services. Also looking forward to seolinkvine.

I think $97 monthly for a service like backlink solutions is a hefty price tag - but i am seriously considering it. Same with UAW.

[Enfusia]

George R,
Yes, I am in Beta. I now have a longer term report on SEO Link vine.
I sent them an email asking what was taking so long and their CS rep was great. They got the articles started flowing that same day.

SO____ Now, I have only 6 articles submitted with 127 approved and 228 pending with each being submitted to new webmasters every day at 10 per article.

The service is working great now just had a glitch.
You will likely see the same type of performance from UAW as link Vine I use both. They get your article out there for a long time one article over 2 years can get published many hundreds of times.

I will say, if you join link vine when it reopens articles with a 50% spin and 10 headlines get picked up by site owners twice as much as lesser spins ect...

It looks like a great service so far and I will know more in months to come.
OP

[Tejasca]

I'm letting my subscription die. I submitted five articles. They have been 100% propagated for almost a month. In theory, I have over 13,000 backlinks pointing my way. All Google and YSE can find is four.

Not good enough, I think.

[UltimateHighPRBacklinks]

Interesting that people are mentioning SEO Link Vine

I saw the ads for this too.

It says that the articles will be spun and distributed to a private blog network run by SEO link vine but can anyone give any idea as to the quality of these blogs?

Are they on aged domains with some backlinks so they will be of interest to Google? Or are the articles just being posted on another bunch of junky unheard of blogs?

[Enfusia]

Article Excellence, I have seen a few PR 2-3s form the links that I'm getting form SEO Linkvine most are PR0 or PR1.
When site mapping/whosis the blogs posted on I get anywhere from 3 months old to 3 years for a couple and anywhere in between. That's not to say that they don't have older ones in other categories.

I use several systems for linking but must admit I have seen good results from SEO link vine.

One site where I had been fighting to keep it on page 1 (kept going back to page 2 #1 position) is now #3 on page 1 and not moving around. It's not a big earner I fought to rank it because I got a bur under my saddle about it and was going to see it through.

I just look at performance based on SERP's mostly and I am happy with it.
Although their release Q got slammed with the launch and it's slow getting articles published but that will clear up soon and results will be back to normal I would say.
OP

[brianpat]

Very interesting stuff, and they're still having problems a further month down the line ??
Thanks for the info.
Brian Pat

[Enfusia]

Brian Pat, I didn't know to which you referred?
Link racer or Link Vine/

I can't comment on Racer as I don't use it currently, if they added a good spin feature I likely would. One that would accept [spin]A|B[/spin] format as I currently have all my articles written by ZeZe that way. Great article writer by the way if you need one.

As far as link vine, there are no problems. I was in the beta and when he launched it got slammed with new people and is a little slow in publishing that's all. I don't know of a system that wouldn't be.
OP

[Konsti]

Hello I'm a customer of that service. And I'm going to reply to the original question of this thread very clearly :

DO NOT USE IT! IT IS VERY VERY LIKELY THAT IT IS A SCAM!

Here's the evidence!

Just do a search for that service here on the Warrior Forum--> Go and check out the original WSO thread on page 18 (Back linking takes to much time USE **** *****! It is that simple! 10 min. 12 articles submitted!)

There you'll find all the evidence well documented in detail.

Why not just posting a link? Because I don't have enough posts to post a link here (I need 15 posts, I have only 5). However I was able to include links in the original WSO. Don't know why... But that's how it is.

@4morereferrals: I and many others should have read your answer before deciding to subscribe to that service! Thanks for your warning!

Update: all the juicy information was removed from the original WSO thread, because it violated the WSO rules. My mistake. Sorry for that. I didn't know it was against the rules to attack people or services overtly by mentioning "private" information, even if it's publicly available on the internet.

[ninal]

I have used Link racer but stopped my subscription even before I finished the allotted articles. Personally, I just wasn't seeing any results nor backlinks.

[SEO Training Alliance]

I wasn't seeing any results, though I did see thousands of backlinks showing up they had very, very little impact.

[bryce]

Okay so what i will do here is post a (copy/paste) copy of my support ticket that I submitted to them (Link Racer) when I joined and wanted to know what "Posts" meant on the report that they generate for users.

It is important to remember that I had at this stage submitted 1 (one) article to them, which took 4 days to propagate. This point of only "one article" is important when you get to the response from Link Racer to me, dated Thursday 22nd of April at 10.25pm (I will highlight that post in red)

Here is the transcript of that support communication.

Thu, Apr 22 2010 1:36am - Me to Link Racer
I have submitted one article so far and although it took days to fully propogate, there is still no posts. What does this mean?

Thu, Apr 22 2010 6:39pm - staff to me
I need a copy of the article to look it up...

Thu, Apr 22 2010 6:53pm - Me to Link Racer
I am not sure what you mean. In case you mean you need to see the actual article I have pasted it below.
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Creating a Home Fitness Exercise Program

Creating a home fitness plan can be as simple as starting with what the individuals already owns and the exercises that they already know how to do. Home fitness exercise programs can be as simple or complex as individuals want to make them, from activities that take no extra equipment at all to using the most high tech aerobic and fitness gym equipment on the market. Individuals must analyze what their goals are for the home fitness exercise program and then determine what equipment and cost it will take for them to achieve those goals.

Simple Steps

Every person is different and it is important to find a home fitness exercise program that fits each individual so that the activity can be sustained for life, rather than just as a passing fad or hobby. Everyone needs to have some sort of cardio vascular activity as a part of the workout plan, so different types should be tried to see what works and can be enjoyed in the process. For those with weaker knees, biking can be a great cardio program, although it takes longer to get the same amount of cardio outside on a bike than inside since there is the ability to coast on hills. Walking is also a low impact cardio exercise that allows the individual to be outside while getting exercise in their home fitness exercise program. Jogging and cross country skiing can also be options for the more adventurous and for those who live in colder climates with snow.

For those who like to use and can afford machines for cardio, there are plenty that can be added to a home fitness exercise program, such as an elliptical machine, a treadmill, or a rowing machine. All of these products cost hundreds of dollars, so the individual should try them out before purchasing to make sure it is a valid option for them. In addition, they need to be aware of what room the machine will go into, since some houses are not structurally sound enough to hold such machines on the upper levels. Home gyms are another option for strength work in a home fitness exercise program, such as the Bowflex that allows the user to do over one hundred activities on one machine. These can get quite pricey however, and the individual should be very committed to working out before buying one so that the money does not go to waste on a passing phase rather than a serious home fitness exercise program.

Thu, Apr 22 2010 6:59pm - staff to me
I am going to trace this article on my network now...

Thu, Apr 22 2010 10:16pm - Me to Link Racer
cool thank you. I appreciate it.

Thu, Apr 22 2010 10:25pm - staff to me (remember I had only ONE article)
Look I do not know what you mean by posts but, I do know that you are filling my network with JUNK and duplicate content. You just change the titles and anchor text and resubmit the same stuff... I just checked copyscape and it shows a ton of this. Please either stop submitting this type of garbage content or I will be force to stop you. Now I am sure to turn up the checker because you think your slick and got past it a few times. I do not need that on my network. It is my 50 Grand invested here and I make the rules. So cut it out NOW or please leave...

as you might imagine, this got my back up, and well I am a Kiwi (New Zealander) so I can't apologize for my response...

Thu, Apr 22 2010 10:35pm - Me to Link Racer
I suggest you check your records!! I have only EVER submitted ONE article through this bloody service and to be told any different just highlights your pathetic attitude towards customers. Let me save you the trouble of any more tedious tasks like keeping your clients happy, I will never submit another article to your service, and I will also warn my thousands of clients to avoid this service like the plague. You really need some education in customer service.

If you took the damn time to actually look at the article, it is an article I bought the rights to, it is posted on MY websites, and I used it to test your service - MASSIVE FAIL!

Thu, Apr 22 2010 11:10pm - staff to me
You right and I was wrong. It was submitted by three others and you to make FOUR people that submitted the same article. I just finished checking and was going to to apologize... I am not above being WRONG... I was out of line thinking it was you before checking totally...

That said, I do my best. The thread speaks for itself on my customer service. You think I do not work or something like that??? I answer a hundred tickets PERSONALLY every single day! I give OUTSTANDING service and for you to say otherwise is WRONG... I do my job to help and make sure the security of this network is done correctly to allow all those that are making a living and making other companies they are hired by, RANK and stay there...

You might be angry today because I was wrong but, think how I have to be to keep my SERIOUS investment safe from those that want to do it ill....
Brian

and so the heat intensifies - one thing I hate more than a major cock up is the defense and justification of such!

Thu, Apr 22 2010 11:27pm - Me to Link Racer
Its not about who is right and who is wrong. Absolutely I am angry!! I wrote to you asking why when I check my article status nothing shows up under "Posts" - You go on this rampage of accusations and telling me off like I was a little boy! I am 45 years old and have been in business for more than 25 years. I DO NOT appreciate it when people talk to me as though I was some idiot trying to rip off the world.

Sure I can go someway to understand your position in protecting your investment, but to come out accusing people of things they have not done, is not good for your business either.

To say to someone "you better stop doing this or I will FORCE you to" is a threat, and it does nothing for your reputation. If you are personally answering 100 tickets a day, I suggest that people have problems, and although some of these are not related to service, but more to the payment issues, etc, then this is not my problem.

You have my money, I have submitted one article, and I have yet to understand how I have benefited from this experience. If you would rather I stayed as a client, with renewal approaching in a week, then I suggest we go back to the original question, and allow me to understand how this system is of benefit to me.

All this being said, I still have not got a response to my original question.

There were a few more posts in this thread but all were related to the answering of my original question. The following is the final post I received from the site, and have since ceased to do business with them.

Fri, Apr 23 2010 11:45am - staff to me
THANKS! I look forward to working with you in a PEACEFUL and non-confrontational manner....LOL

I really on meant it to protect the network and really screwed up with how I wrote it to you.... Again, I am sorry.... Brian

End transcript.....

From this you can establish your own interest in dealing with Link Racer. I am not saying that everyone will go through this, but the whole thing took me more than 4 hours to resolve, I copped abuse, threats, and then an apology, all indicating that the entire process was a complete waste of my time.

[4morereferrals]

It is my 50 Grand invested here and I make the rules. So cut it out NOW or please leave...

comedy ...

$50k ....

[bryce]

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

comedy ...

$50k ....

my thoughts precisely

[Konsti]

@Bryce: There we go. Another one down...

@4morereferrals: I really wish I had your sixth sense to detect such bs...

Really, you should check out the original LinkRacer WSO for some more drama. If you need some entertainment, then check it out.

@Bryce again: You're totally right about their

pathetic attitude towards customers

LinkRacer's "marketing manager" replied in the WSO thread to my accusations... It's getting way too ridiculous. I think they're considering us being retards or something.

[4morereferrals]

Originally Posted by Konsti

@Bryce: There we go. Another one down...

@4morereferrals: I really wish I had your sixth sense to detect such bs...

Really, you should check out the original LinkRacer WSO for some more drama. If you need some entertainment, then check it out.

@Bryce again: You're totally right about their

LinkRacer's "marketing manager" replied in the WSO thread to my accusations... It's getting way too ridiculous. I think they're considering us being retards or something.

I was fortunate enough to have had a little more than a 6th sense. The signs were all there fellas ...

It was rather odd to me that two networks for links came onto the wso forum within days of each other sporting near identical titles and promising very similar amounts of backlinks and articles allowed per month - and number of links per article.

Then link racers title changed .... then his admission that he really didnt have more than like 150 or 250 of his own sites [ im not convinced he has more than 20 class C IP's or even 250 of his own ] ....

then he has "a friends network" of 5,000 sites. ???

The bravado in which this new guy came from literally out of nowhere - about the "baddest network" on the internet - threw up the Grift-Dar. Think radar - but for grifters.

I asked to go straight to the 5,000 site offer - ignored. Who turns away business?

Just google his name - nuff said.

[XRay]

I haven't had any problems with Link Racer since joining in March - I actually had good results from submitting articles to it (among which was my 1st $100 + day on Clickbank). Using it has not hurt my site in the SERP's - I'm still above the fold on page 1 of Google.

When I found out about the "issues" with PayPal, I submitted a support ticket about the unused balance of article submissions. After some back & forth, Brian & Chris resolved the matter to my satisfaction and I renewed my subscription using my credit card. I've only been billed for what is stated on the site -- $17.00. These guys have not robbed or scammed me, so I have no reason to believe they're going to start trying to.

But there are a lot of complaints about articles not propagating in the network. That's not good. Hopefully they can resolve this soon.

[ninal]

@XRay - How many backlinks did you get from the articles you submitted?

[4morereferrals]

Originally Posted by XRay

I haven't had any problems with Link Racer since joining in March - I actually had good results from submitting articles to it (among which was my 1st $100 + day on Clickbank). Using it has not hurt my site in the SERP's - I'm still above the fold on page 1 of Google.

When I found out about the "issues" with PayPal, I submitted a support ticket about the unused balance of article submissions. After some back & forth, Brian & Chris resolved the matter to my satisfaction and I renewed my subscription using my credit card. I've only been billed for what is stated on the site -- $17.00. These guys have not robbed or scammed me, so I have no reason to believe they're going to start trying to.

But there are a lot of complaints about articles not propagating in the network. That's not good. Hopefully they can resolve this soon.

Curious - are those backlinks/sites/articles etc .. still showing in googles index? Yahoo doesnt count.

U can use yahoo to see where they find your links - but if those pages dont show in googles index - then likely your e getting no benefit.

google the page url "hxxp://www.linkracer-page.c0m/yourarticle" from the YSE list of links [ if thats where your finding them ]

[Don Warren]

Just want to let you know what a piece of crap Brian AKA LinkRacer is. He tried to rip on my business partner because he's disabled (got hurt on the job). I couldn't help myself but shoot back because it was truly classless. Of course he couldn't handle what I said. So he called Paypal of all companies and tried to affiliate me with him trying to get my Paypal account banned. I mean, what a douchebag!!

Of course after a day of numerous phone calls and what not, my account is NOT banned. But what a prick. This guy NEEDS to go back to PRISON!!

[packjack]

This is so funny..
Since they have been banned by paypal so definitely there is something wrong in their services..

[robs132]

yeah dodgy dont waste your time with it.

I had it for 2 months and saw 0 backlinks.

[SEO Training Alliance]

I can't believe I fell for it either. Utter waste of time, links had no effect even on the most uncompetitive of keywords.

Its a spam factory.

[dean7227]

I guess He will be back with a different identity and something else up his sleeves since he is making good money on the warrior forum. The irony part I still cannot understand how did I manage to fall for his scam too.

[sentient]

My concern is that I paid with a debit card after he got banned from Paypal.

Should I be worried i.e. can he do anything fraudulent with my card details?

[lina75]

You should be very worried and make sure you filed a claim with paypal to recover whatever you've paid.

[tro2]

I am concerned because I didn't think it was a scam but since he has been banned here and on at least another forum, I am definitely concerned. I purchased several upgrade credits which are just sitting in my account. I don't think I could get them back through Paypal?

[cballi]

So articles posted 10 days have still not propagated. And I don't believe they are propagating but just not showing b/c a search with the title shows no results. The owner also admitted on another forum (now deleted I am guessing b/c of his unprofessional behavior) that Google had deindexed some of his network.

And yet, has anyone rec'd an email from LR alerting us to this issue and letting us know things are being worked on? I haven't, which is really unbelievably terrible customer service. My membership ends soon and I will certainly not be renewing.

[Fernando1954]

Originally Posted by sentient

My concern is that I paid with a debit card after he got banned from Paypal.

Should I be worried i.e. can he do anything fraudulent with my card details?

Me too bit worrying.

I was in from start and everything went smoothly set up google alerts for every article submitted always got results back.

Now when i submit i get nothing back from google alerts after 3 weeks of waiting.

[thegarkofactor]

thanks for the head's up. pretty outrageous. clearly you were presumed guilty without any real investigation. amateurish at best.

[rss41]

I sign up a week ago and submitted 10 article. Searched in Google with my titles in quotes and found no links. I submitted an email to get my money back. It should not take but a couple of days to get links up on their private blogs. Not sure what their doing with their time.

[Zeb]

I feel sorry for those who were caught in this. I was actually a subscriber of linkracer but opted out when he didn't accept paypal anymore. Seemed strange to me that he suddenly stopped accepting paypal. And i didn't find the idea of posting the same article to 100s of sites benefiting to seo in the end.

[momsapplepies]

This is just my experience. Even after I canceled my account, he still charged me. Asked for a refund, gave it a few days, he said he couldn't find the charge. [note: Immediately after the latest charge, I also had an unauthorized transaction to itunes (I dont own any apple products or use itunes). Unsure if its related but its being investigated.] I had to cancel my card and get a new one, and jump through all the hoops related to that (other places using the same card, like hosting, etc, have to be altered).

[SteveAlan]

I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but the proverbial "it seems too good to be true" has been my personal experience with LinkRacer. I joined in early May and started posting articles right away. Nothing shows up in Google indexing after several weeks, which as most of you already know is a likely indicator that the sites have been de-indexed by Google. Finally today the owner of the service admitted this in response to concerns expressed by myself and others. No matter what question I have raised, there has been a different excuse to explain the situation (and it turns out that the excuses were all manufactured lies to mask the real underlying problem, namely that over 2500 of their sites were in fact de-indexed by Google!) Being a flexible business owner who understands that things can go wrong, I informed the owner that a refund was in order because in fact no links were being published (other than on de-indexed sites) and that I would consider joining again after the problems were worked out, assuming that he provided a timely refund. No such luck! On their site , here is the promise: "Here at Link Racer, customer satisfaction is our number one priority. If you don't get your links - you don't pay." But, and this is a big but, in reality the owner has attempted to make it impossible to qualify for a refund as follows: "There is a no refund policy in effect on the services provided by LinkRacer.com. This means there are absolutely no refunds given to customers who purchase services from LinkRacer.com. You are agreeing to the fact that what you are purchasing is a service and non tangible." So, regardless of whether you get what is (supposedly) offered or not, you will not receive a refund. I believe the owner's response might speak for itself in hopefully letting folks know that this is not an ethical and businesslike operation: "No refunds for services have been rendered. Please read the Terms of Service again. Your articles are still being drip feed and will be done on June 7th so, stop acting foolish and realize that is over a week away and things do not happen over night because you want them too... You will receive what you paid for and that is the last I am going to write about because, it seems your very hostile. Do as you threaten... You do not know what I am providing for free--- It is not what you paid for and thus, your foot is in your mouth. Your tone is not friendly and services have been rendered and will continue to be. Thus, the terms of service since day one have been NO refunds as links are there and your articles are on my network. Have a great life and hope you do not think the threats worry me. I have not done ANY criminal or civil wrong doing. Learn the law after 8 years of schooling.…" ----- Does this really sound like someone that any one of you would choose to do business with? In any case, if you are going to do business with LinkRacer from this point forward, you will have what I hope are some helpful insights about how (1) they do not provide what they offer (how about nothing?) and (2) when you catch them not doing what they are supposed to be doing, you will be accused of being "hostile".

[SteveAlan]

Originally Posted by momsapplepies

This is just my experience. Even after I canceled my account, he still charged me. Asked for a refund, gave it a few days, he said he couldn't find the charge. [note: Immediately after the latest charge, I also had an unauthorized transaction to itunes (I dont own any apple products or use itunes). Unsure if its related but its being investigated.] I had to cancel my card and get a new one, and jump through all the hoops related to that (other places using the same card, like hosting, etc, have to be altered).

While I already posted a lengthy response about a series of problems with Link Racer and Brian Prins, today [June 7] I can now report having had exactly the same problem as reported by MomsApplePies: Brian Prins and LinkRacer will continue to charge you even after you cancel the LinkRacer account. I even went the extra mile and after canceling my account sent him a second support ticket to make sure that my account was canceled and that no further charges would occur. On May 30, he sent his usual rude response: "Yeah your canceled already. Why do you need to send it twice???"

I sent it twice after seeing posts from many others on this forum as well as elsewhere (including MomsApplePies) about charges after stopping the LinkRacer account, and that is exactly what he did today [June 7]. Brian Prins does excel at charging for a service that he did not provide even after you have stopped the service! I can only hope that Visa and Mastercard take the same action that PayPal already did (banning his account). But be prepared to take evasive action: if you cancel the Link Racer service, you will need to cancel the credit card that you used if you want to stop the charges from Brian Prins.

[Daniel McGonagle]

I ordered this via paypal, so it was pretty easy for me to cancel my subscription which i did after 30-35 days.

Tested about 8 different urls here, 5 of which saw improvements in the SERPs.

Most improvements were for urls that were pages 2 or 3 and go to page 1, other improvements were for urls not ranked yet and now appearing on page 10, and climbing hopefully.

Some sites' urls saw no improvements whatsoever, not even a little google dancing.

Hope this helps some people... I suggest staying away from this for a few more weeks at least, if not forever, mainly due to Brian's attitude towards his customers.

If/when that improves, then this service will be worth trying again, seeing as how they've implemented some new features that not many people know about yet, like spinning, and getting rss and social backlinks to your/their syndicated content

[Crafty Blogger]

I subscribed a few months ago and saw some good movement during the first few weeks of membership, however I got nervous when I saw his responses to some complaints and when PayPal canceled his membership, and I decided not to renew via credit card. I'm now very glad I made that decision! Plus, now all the benefit of the original links are gone as all the sites they were on have now been deindexed. I think losing these links is now actually hurting the rating of several sites more than they initially helped. No refund appears to be coming either for those lost links.

[4morereferrals]

Un Eff'ing believeable - its back?

wtf is going on around this place?

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...s-you-can.html

Article Spam - spun = Great Work - WSO it till ya puke ...

Backlinks = evil ... Nuts.

[lina75]

I bet many will still take up on his offer..good luck...now a days Its so simple to trick gullible marketers into a signing up...we shall wait for a couple of months to see what drama come out next.

[Don Warren]

He is a total moron.

He thinks a competitor reported his sites. I know who he's trying to blame.

The thing is, is he had adsense ALL over his sites. How do I know this, because I saw 3 different websites of his. Not 2200. How in the hell can someone get 2200 of his websites when people only get 3 to 5 backlinks.

Google DE-INDEXED his sites, is because he was putting the same adsense code in ALL of his sites. Google saw this, and said no way buddy. You're not making a killing off of us. Chance are, is that it was a new adsense account and they saw a sudden burst of clicks. And then looked into it themselves.

He doesn't even know the meaning of a footprint. A footprint is when all you sites look exactly the same, in which with his network. That is probably the case.

I'm guessing his sites won't get de-indexed this time because he might have been smart enough to NOT put adsense all over his network. But his websites probably still like the same like I said. So no matter what, he will have a rather large footprint, no matter what he says.

I just want to clarify that NOBODY reported him. He doesn't have proof like he says he has because nobody reported him. He doesn't have a lawyer in Cali. He doesn't have squat because NOBODY REPORT HIS SITES!! He screwed up his own network and didn't tell any of his customers. We all know he didn't spend no $50,000 on his network. If he did, he paid about $48,000 tooooo much!

He is just a lying sack of douche that need to keep his mouth shut.

Oh on another note. He thinks I personally had a hand in reporting his websites as well. Which first, I don't have the time. Second, Google is not just going to look into websites people personally report. If that was the case. EVERYBODY WOULD BE REPORTING EVERYBODY! They've got algorithm flags for that.

But he ACTUALLY called Paypal trying to say that I was affiliated with him, taking his payments so that he could get MY Paypal account BANNED. Because Brian knows that he is on Paypals black list. First off, why is he on their black list? Hmmmm makes you wonder.

This guy, truly needs to get a life.

Stop screwing people man, People are tired of it!

You know the sad thing. Is that people will eat it all up. And I still have no clue why. I'm guessing a lot of these people still don't really make money online because they are taken in by douches like this.

[Fernando1954]

Everlong,whilst i have had issues with linkracer and what has gone on i think it's a bit pot calling the kettle black here.

You should get your own house in order before having a go at others.

I bought your links WSO on the 26/2/2010 for 4141 backlinks,After some time some of us that had bought had concerns we were not getting the links as promised and wanted to know if we were in the system and brought it to your attention.

You looked into it and said you had tweeked the system and all should be ok, and to be patient as it could take a couple of months to see real results.

We were promised a links report which has never recieved.

You closed the thread and directed us to another WSO that was nothing to do with yours and was a different warrior.

Now here we are 4 months on and i'm not seeing any links coming from your system,while all the while i have been building my own links for the keyword i submitted to you and i managed to get page 1 with it.

Now 2 weeks ago i started a new project and stopped my own link building for this keyword while working on the new project.

No worries i thought i have all those links coming in from your system supposed to be around 10 every day to bolster it.How wrong was i, have now slipped back to page 2 as no links have been added.

So i'm off to start link building for it again,

Any chance of ever recieving that report we were promised.

[Don Warren]

Originally Posted by Fernando1954

Everlong,whilst i have had issues with linkracer and what has gone on i think it's a bit pot calling the kettle black here.

You should get your own house in order before having a go at others.

I bought your links WSO on the 26/2/2010 for 4141 backlinks,After some time some of us that had bought had concerns we were not getting the links as promised and wanted to know if we were in the system and brought it to your attention.

You looked into it and said you had tweeked the system and all should be ok, and to be patient as it could take a couple of months to see real results.

We were promised a links report which has never recieved.

You closed the thread and directed us to another WSO that was nothing to do with yours and was a different warrior.

Now here we are 4 months on and i'm not seeing any links coming from your system,while all the while i have been building my own links for the keyword i submitted to you and i managed to get page 1 with it.

Now 2 weeks ago i started a new project and stopped my own link building for this keyword while working on the new project.

No worries i thought i have all those links coming in from your system supposed to be around 10 every day to bolster it.How wrong was i, have now slipped back to page 2 as no links have been added.

So i'm off to start link building for it again,

Any chance of ever recieving that report we were promised.

Fernando -

Yes, I did have a WSO that delivered to a lot of people, and didn't to some. In which I tried to work hard to get their links to show up. Sorry if you got skipped.

The problem with my service is that I was a partner with about 10 other people, with the creator pretty much overseeing everything.

I worked directly with the creator to implement certain functions in the system to make it better in which he promised me that would be finished. I.e. reports, and other functions.

Well, of course nothing like that happened. And I got fed up. And that's one of the reasons I let go of that WSO.

As far as the cleaning house statement. With any product. You will have people that aren't happy, or if it didn't work out perfectly and if it happens to you, you perceive it as not working period. This happens with many even large companies with recalls such as Toyota and other various toys that had been created and what not. Yes, I had some complaints with that product. I had promises made to me about the upgraded programming which didn't turn out like I wanted.

I was just stating, that Mr Prins, assumed someone reported him to Google for his own wrong doing.

And that's the difference here.

He LIES about someone reporting him to Google.
He LIES about having $50,000 in programming.
He LIES about having an attorney in California so he can pursue a lawsuit. blah blah blah
He DOESN'T have any proof, because NO ONE reported him!
It was all about his Google Adsense that he placed ALL over his network and Google saw him.
He LIES about someone finding his pub code (that's his fault).
He lies lies lies.

Like I said. He doesn't even know the meaning of a footprint.

And then when you try to say something about it he treats you like crap. There's a major difference between him and I.

I mean, when someone calls Paypal to try and get your Paypal account banned by saying you're associated with them. Well, then that's a huge problem.

As far as your links. Go ahead and PM me and I will implement them in the system until you see the results that I promised. I still do own the website, and still can take advantage of selling links. I just don't anymore.

[Fernando1954]

Thanks for answering Everlong, I know your problems were different from his but what i was getting at problems can happen and it's how they are dealt with.

Both of you are guilty of the fact that you stopped keeping your customers informed as to what was happening which leads to people thinking that the product has not worked as you said in the quote below.

Will PM my link to you.



[QUOTE=everlonglp3;2198167]Fernando -




. With any product. You will have people that aren't happy, or if it didn't work out perfectly and if it happens to you, you perceive it as not working period.

[mike_lucas]

Not only stay away but run away
the worst attitude I have ever seen toward customers when the ask specific questions that he skips and then are asked again.

billed and billed again for a service that was not working asked for a refund told no. I will help you get more links "join this new program ...IE cost more

Asked about credits he goes off as is norm for him.

Not sure what troubles he had or why but 3 months of taking clients money for a service that was not working and he knew it and never ever answered a ticket on the issue boarders on fraud in most states.

He may have something that may work now but there are way to many offers like that where the provider treats their customer with a little bit...no make that a lot more respect. and communicates