Backlink Indexing/Boosting R & D... All Input Welcome..

[kposs]

Hi Gary,

I'm just getting started with Scrapebox and coming back to this concept. When you're posting to your list of successful blogengine blogs (or I guess wordpress for that matter), does that actually post comments to the same blog pages or new ones each time?

thanks,

Valerie

Originally Posted by Gary Becks

The only tip that I can offer as far as blog commenting via scrapebox is concerned is to use lots and lots of keywords when scraping for blogengine blogs.

When you post to blogengine make sure you have your settings switched to "slow commenter accurate mode" (your success rate will greatly increase). After the posting is done export all of the sites that you got the "posted" message on. Do this for a few weeks and keep building your list of sites.

When you are done and have a huge list upload all of them together into scrapebox and remove all of the duplicates. Now you will have a list of sites that you can post to that all auto approve coments. Use this list to blast your blogs with and you will get thousands of backlinks with every run.

Other than that I just harvest lots of wordpress blogs at a time. I actually harvest until scrapebox wont harvest any longer (it will stop harvesting after any 1 million) then I remove the duplicates which leaves me with anywhere between 150k-200k different domains and I blast from there. I never use movable type, complete waste of time.

[Gary Becks]

It will post to the same pages each time. That's the point. To post to the same pages seeing as how you are for sure that they are all auto approve. BTW I don't save the posted list with WP. only with blogengine.

[jhess56]

Brilliant, this guys speakin my language and is my indexing protocol mirrors his, great stuff.

The forum idea is great as now that you mention it i very very often see 'googlebot' et al in the active user lists on various sites im visiting to lay down links on....Im going to set up a forum on an old domain and start testing.I am curious which platform would have the most success if there is any difference at all.

i love the link dominator program as well but what are you using to automate?

i am about to hop onboard with scrapebox seeing all the great uses and rave reviews..mainly for blasting my indexing sites ie pingfm and my wp setups using bie. on a similar note have you messed with pligg at all like with autopligg or other software?

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and 4morererrals if you see this, what did you mean by this?
"Im looking for a way to use the ping.fm API "triggers" .... @tumblr / @vox with BIE."

i totally agree with you on the pingfm booster/bie spam issue and it seems it happened since you posted your original warning post and me posting this. that said, im sure we can get our techy natured guys around here to create a program that does the same or better as pingfm?whose up for some scripting?

[kposs]

Gary, one more thing. Do we care if the blogengine blogs have any pagerank?

thanks,

Valerie

[Gary Becks]

Originally Posted by jhess56

i love the link dominator program as well but what are you using to automate?

I use a combo of tools that I buy or create at the moment.

Originally Posted by jhess56

on a similar note have you messed with pligg at all like with autopligg or other software?

I don't right now, but once I get finished with this new project I am woking on I am going to pick up LFE so I assume I will be taking advantage of it's pligg functionality from time to time.

Originally Posted by jhess56

i totally agree with you on the pingfm booster/bie spam issue and it seems it happened since you posted your original warning post and me posting this. that said, im sure we can get our techy natured guys around here to create a program that does the same or better as pingfm?whose up for some scripting?

The issue has already been taken care of and the update for BIE will be released sometime this week. It will be much more powerful now as well.

Originally Posted by kposs

Gary, one more thing. Do we care if the blogengine blogs have any pagerank?

thanks,

Valerie

Nah, the PR of the sites that you are commenting on doesn't matter. The goal is to get the spiders crawling your Web 2.0 properties as much as possible, nothing more.

Gary..

[jhess56]

care to share the tools you use that are available to be bought as im always lookin to automate as much as possible

and are you using ubot for your own creations?got any tips on how i can get started on that ?

for bie,that is excellent news,do you have an easier process that you use to update all your various setups?though i love updates that are better i cringe in a way when i see them as i have soooo many express setups going that need updated!

[Gary Becks]

Originally Posted by jhess56

care to share the tools you use that are available to be bought as im always lookin to automate as much as possible

I use Uexpress sometime by p2y. Unfortunately it is not available any longer.

Originally Posted by jhess56

and are you using ubot for your own creations?got any tips on how i can get started on that ?

Yea I use Ubot and I am just getting started with winautomation (which is uber cool). The two compliment each other very well as you can actually automate your automation so to speak using programs created via winautomation. It's like having a full time outsourcer! I love it!

As far as getting started with ubot it is really all about whether or not you are good with that sort of thing. If you have zero programming knowledge (like me) it will be hard at first. But if you have time to spend learning it you can probably build the bots you need in a reasonable amount of time. I am good with HTML so that helped me out quite a bit. If you don't have time to invest (weeks-months) learning it fully then I wouldn't recommend you jump at it right now. If you do then go for it! You'll love it..

In any case you can pm me if your interested in some bots that you can use for automating your backlinking. (not just profile links).

Originally Posted by jhess56

for bie,that is excellent news,do you have an easier process that you use to update all your various setups?

Nah, for now I don't. I have spoken to Cringwall and made a few suggestions for that but I am not sure what actions he will take to provide an easier solution for that. I do however keep every setup on one domain and I don't update my setups unless it is extremely necessary. I also feel it is quicker to make changes via c-panel as oppose to an ftp client but that's just me.I have only updated once for BIE and once for BLB since I began using them, If the updates are minor I don't sweat it. The newest update will be vital though.. So it will be a must.

[Gary Becks]

Quick heads, it seems I was mistaken when stating that Uexpress was no longer for sale. I was recently informed that it is indeed still available. For those of you that are interested in purchasing it you can get a quick look at it here. Expression Engine Bot

Gary..

[4morereferrals]

and 4morererrals if you see this, what did you mean by this?
"Im looking for a way to use the ping.fm API "triggers" .... @tumblr / @vox with BIE."

i totally agree with you on the pingfm booster/bie spam issue and it seems it happened since you posted your original warning post and me posting this. that said, im sure we can get our techy natured guys around here to create a program that does the same or better as pingfm?whose up for some scripting?

At the time of the post I hadnt realized that the BIE API queries the ping.fm account for the accounts it has setup - then picks a random site - tumblr for example and posts the content.

I'd like my content a little more varied than eza article feeds!!! Id had success early on with BIE using my own mashed rss feeds - but it was all plain text.

Ive found a non ping fm solution Im rather happy with - but there is a much larger expense - but its rather powerful.

Additionally - BIE should leverage the posterous API vs. ping.fm's

1. ping.fm is saturated and will die
2. ping.fm is limited in what content types can be autoposted their API

I'd like more than 1 link per post to get rinsed ... placed ... added ... appended whatever you wish to call it.

[4morereferrals]

Nah, for now I don't. I have spoken to Cringwall and made a few suggestions for that but I am not sure what actions he will take to provide an easier solution for that. I do however keep every setup on one domain and I don't update my setups unless it is extremely necessary.

I am not willing to at this time keep all that activity from a single point of failure or detection.

I suggest BIE/BLB whatever on a few IPs other than your money sites IP's possible. Im migrating to that as well.

[Gary Becks]

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Additionally - BIE should leverage the posterous API vs. ping.fm's

1. ping.fm is saturated and will die
2. ping.fm is limited in what content types can be autoposted their API

I'd like more than 1 link per post to get rinsed ... placed ... added ... appended whatever you wish to call it.

The latest release of BIE will not rely on any api but post via email. So you can now pst directly to posterous, ping.fm, hellotxt, hootsuite, or any other network that allows you to post via email. I am particularly interested in hellotxt myself as I have been toying around with a few of the sites and I am liking what I have seen thus far.

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

I am not willing to at this time keep all that activity from a single point of failure or detection.

I suggest BIE/BLB whatever on a few IPs other than your money sites IP's possible. Im migrating to that as well.

I really don't understand why the IP that you are posting from would matter? Ping.fm and the various web 2.0 properties that you are utilizing could care less IMO and I have had no problems thus far. I do agree with not having them setup on your money sites though. Not sure if it would make a difference at all but I'd rather play it safe.

[4morereferrals]

The latest release of BIE will not rely on any api but post via email. So you can now pst directly to posterous, ping.fm, hellotxt, hootsuite, or any other network that allows you to post via email. I am particularly interested in hellotxt myself as I have been toying around with a few of the sites and I am liking what I have seen thus far.

Gary - Ive spent a fair bit of time with MULTIPLE systems - sites - tools - plugins etc... as I know you have - prior to BIE's release - to accomplish this link rinsing/indexing thing.

Posting to the multitude of sites via email - is not as reliable or easy as it may appear - especially when the accounts are created using gmail, but the server side process is shooting mail thru the php app - vox - posterous and a handful of other BLOG sites [ all i care about ] dont behave reliably when the mail isnt coming from the gmail server that created the account on posterous / vox / blogger / multiply etc ...

So - that all said. If you have 10 posterous / tumblr / vox - blah accounts - and you piss them off and all you "stuff" is being sent to them via a server side app all on one IP - very easy to trace and eradicate from their system. Also - a lesson i learned the hard way too - many apps using hte phpsendmail function send the mail with your default hosting account login name and web host domain

like ... 4morereferrals@34324.hostgator.com

It shall be interesting to see how Carl implements the new BIE. Its a great app and sooooo close to bullseye!

[Gary Becks]

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Gary - Ive spent a fair bit of time with MULTIPLE systems - sites - tools - plugins etc... as I know you have - prior to BIE's release - to accomplish this link rinsing/indexing thing.

Posting to the multitude of sites via email - is not as reliable or easy as it may appear - especially when the accounts are created using gmail, but the server side process is shooting mail thru the php app - vox - posterous and a handful of other BLOG sites [ all i care about ] dont behave reliably when the mail isnt coming from the gmail server that created the account on posterous / vox / blogger / multiply etc ...

So - that all said. If you have 10 posterous / tumblr / vox - blah accounts - and you piss them off and all you "stuff" is being sent to them via a server side app all on one IP - very easy to trace and eradicate from their system. Also - a lesson i learned the hard way too - many apps using hte phpsendmail function send the mail with your default hosting account login name and web host domain

like ... 4morereferrals@34324.hostgator.com

It shall be interesting to see how Carl implements the new BIE. Its a great app and sooooo close to bullseye!

I can't say that I can disagree with anything that you have stated here. I am not so sure how well it will work out in the long run or how Carl plans to implement the new system. Hopefully he has it all worked out though.

I would personally like to be able to post via rss but all of the networks-ping.fm, hellotxt, hootsuite etc that I would be interested in posting through haven't quite got their act together yet with the whole RSS posting as of yet.

I can't understand why either? They all rely on twitterfeed which isn't a service that I prefer using. It will be interesting to see how the new BIE update works out. Either way I'm fine for now using my own splogs with the WP plugin. Much more control..

[kkchoon]

I'm thinking building my own autoblog network, do you guys think that's a better choice or something I might missed?

[Gary Becks]

I don't think it is worth the $ to build an entire blog network just for the sake of indexing links. I have about 17 blogs that were basically abandoned which I use. They are all hosted on a $5 per month justhost account that I had no other use for.

I use a plethora of plugins on these splogs to boost indexing rates on autopilot-Ping Crawl turbo, Web Trafic Genius Pro, OnlyWire Multi Submitter and a few others.

I think the most powerful thing about using your own blogs (besides the fact that you own them and can do what you want with them) is the fact that you can set the post count per page to something like 1000000 and have all of your links sitting on the home page when the spiders come and crawl your site as opposed to them being on inner pages as they are with your Web 2.0 properties. This makes a huge difference, you must also factor in that your are now able blast a smaller number of properties much easier via scrapebox and get more effect out of a smaller number of sites.

Sometimes less is more and this is looking to be one of those very situations. I am seriously contemplating focusing soley on my own WP splogs for indexing from now on. It is much more reliable and plus I own the property that I am using so there's no risk in loosing them. Did I mention plugins? There are so many of them that will get the job done for you with ease.

[kindlecover]

I bought bie but it doesent work i asked for a refund they said they were having a bug and i said when u fix it pleas tell me until today still waiting i thought that it didnt work no more :/

[kindlecover]

yes this is a good thread but u have to do a huge amount of work and spend many hour can it be more automated ?

[Gary Becks]

This is all automated and takes less than 15 min per day for me to maintain.

[jcbradley]

Originally Posted by Gary Becks

I don't think it is worth the $ to build an entire blog network just for the sake of indexing links. I have about 17 blogs that were basically abandoned which I use. They are all hosted on a $5 per month justhost account that I had no other use for.

I use a plethora of plugins on these splogs to boost indexing rates on autopilot-Ping Crawl turbo, Web Trafic Genius Pro, OnlyWire Multi Submitter and a few others.

I think the most powerful thing about using your own blogs (besides the fact that you own them and can do what you want with them) is the fact that you can set the post count per page to something like 1000000 and have all of your links sitting on the home page when the spiders come and crawl your site as opposed to them being on inner pages as they are with your Web 2.0 properties. This makes a huge difference, you must also factor in that your are now able blast a smaller number of properties much easier via scrapebox and get more effect out of a smaller number of sites.

Sometimes less is more and this is looking to be one of those very situations. I am seriously contemplating focusing soley on my own WP splogs for indexing from now on. It is much more reliable and plus I own the property that I am using so there's no risk in loosing them. Did I mention plugins? There are so many of them that will get the job done for you with ease.

Gary, ive come to the same conclusion that having your own set of blogs primarily for indexing purposes is the way to go. i did a small test of 240 links a few weeks ago and got to 65% or so of getting them indexed and google wasnt hitting my sites every day and didnt set my post count to 1000000 on my home page GREAT TIP!

What other plugins would you recommend for these splogs-indexers?

And how would you automate the posting of the links?

I also just got LFE and not sure if there is a way to automate posting of our own content.

[4morereferrals]

Gary, ive come to the same conclusion that having your own set of blogs primarily for indexing purposes is the way to go. i did a small test of 240 links a few weeks ago and got to 65% or so of getting them indexed and google wasnt hitting my sites every day and didnt set my post count to 1000000 on my home page GREAT TIP!

What other plugins would you recommend for these splogs-indexers?

And how would you automate the posting of the links?

I also just got LFE and not sure if there is a way to automate posting of our own content.

Rumor has it LFE 2.0 will have some form of scheduled posting. I suspect you might be able to make a BOT now that could run LFE on a schedule :-)

LFE's content creation hooks are the best in the game IMHO - but a bit tricky to get your head around - at least for me.

Auto posting to your own blogs - wizardRSS and categories. Setup BIE to post to a solid web 2.0 or cluster of them and subscribe your blogs to those web 2 rss feeds.

Here's a few plug ins to toy around with :-)

WizardRSS

Subscribe2
WP-Mail-SMTP

WP Keyword Link

Live Space Sync

Vox Crossposter

SEO Smart Links
These work ... wizardrss is a gem. SEO Smart links would be the best of the bunch if I could just figure out how to make it function as intended. WP Keyword link will do for a short list of keywords / links to rinse. It all depends on your needs. 25 links a day - can probably be handled with plug ins. 2500 ? Might need to branch out.

Also - when logging into your indexing cluster sites - like - Vox/Multiply/Posterous/Tumblr/Blogger/Wordpress.com/LiveHJournal/Xanga - use a proxy service and change it for each one.

There's another set of reasons I go thru the efforts to create the web 2.0 sites as well as rinsing the links for indexation there vs. just creating 200 wpmu's and a handful of self hosted WP blog installs [ besides expense ] - they can also serve as Link Spam shields for large LFE runs or XRumer runs where you'd not want to throw those links directly at your $$$$ sites and relate those forum and profile links to your $$$ generating pages.

Enjoy.

Steve

[Gary Becks]

Originally Posted by jcbradley

Gary, ive come to the same conclusion that having your own set of blogs primarily for indexing purposes is the way to go. i did a small test of 240 links a few weeks ago and got to 65% or so of getting them indexed and google wasnt hitting my sites every day and didnt set my post count to 1000000 on my home page GREAT TIP!

What other plugins would you recommend for these splogs-indexers?

And how would you automate the posting of the links?

I also just got LFE and not sure if there is a way to automate posting of our own content.

I use this plugin Add Wordpress Posts To Backlink Index Express | Data SystemsPlus to automate the posting of links to my WP splogs. I also use a couple of others that I have already mentioned plus a new one that I will not speak about here until I am finished testing it to get a good idea of it's effectiveness. If it works out well I will be sharing it and the best practices for using it here in the near future..

Gary..

[jcbradley]

Thanks Steve, just checked out the wizardrss, i like it, though i never did get BIE to work and i know carl is updating it so i ll have to check into that again. i m having problem with the new update on BLB and not getting it to post.

i did get another WSO called bloghatter that automates sending your own articles to blogger and WP blogs so illl have to check into that again.

SEOsmart links, love that on my main sites/blogs. i installed it, checked the site and it automatically links keywords back to the pages. great interlinking and you can customize it.

Heres what im wanting to do and see if anyone can streamline this for me...

need to help index 7-8,000 links a month. i have 20 blogs set up for this, i figure i can post 15 links in one blog post to all 20 blogs, therefore, posting 300 links a day.

problem, taking 8000 links and breaking them into 500 some odd posts.

i m pretty sure all i have to do from here is create folders and set up bloghatter should then take over the rest.

looking for any other ways to automate this.

thanks in advance

[jcbradley]

Thanks Gary, i posted same time as you were. will check that out.

[jhess56]

are u keeping this non pingfm solution private?

i agree,and have requested, that more than one link should be added per post.2 or 3 would be great one at the start, one middle, and then the one as now on the end. especially true for our own wordpress setups which is what im focusing on

and all fancy schmancy setups aside i really find great succcess with plain ole ugly ass splogs where i just copy paste huge amts of links onto a blog post and post it with the hyperlink plugin active. then promote the hell out of the wp rss feed and have links coming into itand various plugins etc

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

At the time of the post I hadnt realized that the BIE API queries the ping.fm account for the accounts it has setup - then picks a random site - tumblr for example and posts the content.

I'd like my content a little more varied than eza article feeds!!! Id had success early on with BIE using my own mashed rss feeds - but it was all plain text.

Ive found a non ping fm solution Im rather happy with - but there is a much larger expense - but its rather powerful.

Additionally - BIE should leverage the posterous API vs. ping.fm's

1. ping.fm is saturated and will die
2. ping.fm is limited in what content types can be autoposted their API

I'd like more than 1 link per post to get rinsed ... placed ... added ... appended whatever you wish to call it.

[jhess56]

I was under the impression spiders only crawled so many links on a single page but i suppose that is outdate info, though i do wonder of the current limit, if any. is a good idea though and i am going to switch my wp indexer blogs to a higher front page post count...

im also focusing on my own wp blogs, i own them so they cant get deleted and all the work i do on them wont be wasted like they may on 2.0 sites if they get nuked.

plus i can really push the envelope as much as i want and as you mentioned use tons of great plugins etc

Originally Posted by Gary Becks

I don't think it is worth the $ to build an entire blog network just for the sake of indexing links. I have about 17 blogs that were basically abandoned which I use. They are all hosted on a $5 per month justhost account that I had no other use for.

I use a plethora of plugins on these splogs to boost indexing rates on autopilot-Ping Crawl turbo, Web Trafic Genius Pro, OnlyWire Multi Submitter and a few others.

I think the most powerful thing about using your own blogs (besides the fact that you own them and can do what you want with them) is the fact that you can set the post count per page to something like 1000000 and have all of your links sitting on the home page when the spiders come and crawl your site as opposed to them being on inner pages as they are with your Web 2.0 properties. This makes a huge difference, you must also factor in that your are now able blast a smaller number of properties much easier via scrapebox and get more effect out of a smaller number of sites.

Sometimes less is more and this is looking to be one of those very situations. I am seriously contemplating focusing soley on my own WP splogs for indexing from now on. It is much more reliable and plus I own the property that I am using so there's no risk in loosing them. Did I mention plugins? There are so many of them that will get the job done for you with ease.

[4morereferrals]

Originally Posted by jhess56

im also focusing on my own wp blogs, i own them so they cant get deleted and all the work i do on them wont be wasted like they may on 2.0 sites if they get nuked.

Google can nuke you too - its called de indexing. I know they are doing it too. I have created 1,000's of wpmu's ... and MANY of those tld's hosting the wpmu install are well aged domains with a great many BL's coming to the domain as a whole. There is NO sign of it - the subdomains or subfolders or sub pages in googles index.

I would think your fate may be similar if you were to continue the trend of posting huge lists of urls in a post.

By grabbing popular rss feeds and leaving the source urls in - but as NOFollow - you getting trendy and timely information and I think we can tell google prefers and seeks that type of data - just by looking at their home page we see they LIKE hot new stuff. I try to attach my urls to recent trndy stuff like celebs or new tech items or stuff that s always in hte news obama/politicians/political ideas - as keyword anchor text on my link index sites.

Ive tried to explain also that my theory - though its more work initiall - is to create a WIDER net to rinse these links on vs. more links PER post / per page. But to each their own.

[4morereferrals]

are u keeping this non pingfm solution private?

For now ... its only because I want to wait for BIE to release an update and see if there is a need to discuss my methods further. Also interested to see a bit more efficacy of the system, and remove a bit of the complexity of setup, cost of software, and reliance on web 2.0s that may prove risk of time spent. Im trying to create a method that perhaps the web 2.0 moderators wont really care about and perhaps even think is decent content drawing page views on their networks. I may be dreaming but we shall see.

[Gary Becks]

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Google can nuke you too - its called de indexing. I know they are doing it too. I have created 1,000's of wpmu's ... and MANY of those tld's hosting the wpmu install are well aged domains with a great many BL's coming to the domain as a whole. There is NO sign of it - the subdomains or subfolders or sub pages in googles index.

I would think your fate may be similar if you were to continue the trend of posting huge lists of urls in a post.

By grabbing popular rss feeds and leaving the source urls in - but as NOFollow - you getting trendy and timely information and I think we can tell google prefers and seeks that type of data - just by looking at their home page we see they LIKE hot new stuff. I try to attach my urls to recent trndy stuff like celebs or new tech items or stuff that s always in hte news obama/politicians/political ideas - as keyword anchor text on my link index sites.

Ive tried to explain also that my theory - though its more work initiall - is to create a WIDER net to rinse these links on vs. more links PER post / per page. But to each their own.

While I agree with you on the content side of things I have to say that having a wider net is just not time/cost beneficial for most webmasters (but then again, it doesn't seem like "most webmasters" are who this thread caters to). Of course your theory/approach to this is far more beneficial in the long run. Not just in terms of indexing but boosting as well. Which is why I have started to add hellotxt into the mix so I can have as many Web 2.0 properties backlinking my backlinks as possible.

Keep in mind that these techniques will only prove worth the while for sites that you are building to be authorities. I personally don't feel it would be worth the setup to go through most of this for low competition keywords. The only reason I began doubling my efforts is because I am really competing with some heavy hitters on this one so it's basically go big or go home.

As far as your own sites for indexing are concerned you should really take a look into the forum idea as they are expected to produce large amounts of content on a daily basis. That was the initial point of this thread but due to new investigations/experimenting I won't go to much into detail on this method until I have hardcore proof that it works as advertised.

[Daniel McGonagle]

Gary, the way to use the Indexing Tool is to stream the trackbacks and pingbacks to the new feed created by the complementary plugin

Then parse this 2d site feed to Feedburner
Then use Feedburner Publicize/socialize option to stream to Twitter


This gets a good amount of the pingbacks and trackbacks indexed.

Then once a week or a month delete all TBs and PBs off site

Could even use Twitterfeed to syndicate new rss content to ping.fm, myspace, twitter and facebook pages

Originally Posted by Gary Becks

Total waste of time and space on my blog IMO. Maybe for someone doing minimal amounts of links to there personal blog through article marketing it would be fine.

The concept is pretty stupid if you ask me. I create a thousand links today and tomorrow I have 1000 outbound links on my page? Makes absolutely no sense? Not to mention the fact that all of these links are appearing on your blog and making it more cluttered than ever, and God forbid your visitors start actually visiting the links and going to a bunch of forum profiles.

I for one would never even consider using it, but that's just me..

[Gary Becks]

Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle

Gary, the way to use the Indexing Tool is to stream the trackbacks and pingbacks to the new feed created by the complementary plugin

Then parse this 2d site feed to Feedburner
Then use Feedburner Publicize/socialize option to stream to Twitter


This gets a good amount of the pingbacks and trackbacks indexed.

Then once a week or a month delete all TBs and PBs off site

Could even use Twitterfeed to syndicate new rss content to ping.fm, myspace, twitter and facebook pages

I get what your saying Dan, but for someone like me who is creating 1k+ links a day this just isn't an option. It might work on some of my micro niche sites though, but for very competitive niches where I am attempting to build authority sites it just wouldn't work...

Gary..

[aboutusnow]

Wow, everyone on this thread seems to know so much. I am not that far yet, but I have learned a lot by reading the thread.

I have 10-20 websites about 6 months old, and 10 more that I just started. The 10 I just started were started to hopefully become rather large sites, but the first 10-20 (exact match keyword) sites are what I am focusing on right now.

To start off really basic, this is my backlinking strategy (if you can call it that) that I use right now.

1. Post to blog
2. Immediately ping and submit site RSS to RSS feeds using RSSBot.
3. Few days later submit post to OnlyWire.
4. Few days later, submit post to EzineArticles.
5. Few days later submit post to FreeTrafficSystem.
6. Few days later (maybe) submit post to article directories using ArticleBot.

One question I have is - should I ever be posting my exact post to other places on the web (i.e. article directories, social networking sites, etc). If not, what should I post to places like ping.fm? Just the link to my original post just to have a backlink? A little blurb and then a link?

Another question that I have is that am I understanding right in that you submit something (see question above) to 20-30 Web 2.0 sites and then boost the backlinks to the 2.0 sites. In essence, never boost your original website?

I have a ton more questions, but maybe that is enough to help me understand a little more.

[jhess56]

indeed, unfortunately i had one of my indexer blogs nuked since the last posting. was basically a splog, some generic content,but loads of post just containing bulk profile links

site: returns nothing from G's index, bummer

I find it strange, though very grateful, that the other splogs on the same host of mine are still in the index

time to get some different c class hosting for a new network and at least start mixing in more content with all the links

id like to use an rss function to add content automatically but could never seem to get wp omatic or similar plugins to work

anyone have a good option for this?

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Google can nuke you too - its called de indexing. I know they are doing it too. I have created 1,000's of wpmu's ... and MANY of those tld's hosting the wpmu install are well aged domains with a great many BL's coming to the domain as a whole. There is NO sign of it - the subdomains or subfolders or sub pages in googles index.

I would think your fate may be similar if you were to continue the trend of posting huge lists of urls in a post.

By grabbing popular rss feeds and leaving the source urls in - but as NOFollow - you getting trendy and timely information and I think we can tell google prefers and seeks that type of data - just by looking at their home page we see they LIKE hot new stuff. I try to attach my urls to recent trndy stuff like celebs or new tech items or stuff that s always in hte news obama/politicians/political ideas - as keyword anchor text on my link index sites.

Ive tried to explain also that my theory - though its more work initiall - is to create a WIDER net to rinse these links on vs. more links PER post / per page. But to each their own.

[Lynnie]

good post thanks

[4morereferrals]

Originally Posted by jhess56

indeed, unfortunately i had one of my indexer blogs nuked since the last posting. was basically a splog, some generic content,but loads of post just containing bulk profile links

site: returns nothing from G's index, bummer

I find it strange, though very grateful, that the other splogs on the same host of mine are still in the index

time to get some different c class hosting for a new network and at least start mixing in more content with all the links

id like to use an rss function to add content automatically but could never seem to get wp omatic or similar plugins to work

anyone have a good option for this?

Its coming brother and it will be as easy as installing a wp blog and a well written plugin ... set it and rock on!

[jhess56]

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Its coming brother and it will be as easy as installing a wp blog and a well written plugin ... set it and rock on!

u mean u are coming out with a plugin like this or am i misunderstanding?

i have found others that either didnt work or had some crazy cron job that ended up being faulty or some such craziness

[jhess56]

Originally Posted by Gary Becks

It will post to the same pages each time. That's the point. To post to the same pages seeing as how you are for sure that they are all auto approve. BTW I don't save the posted list with WP. only with blogengine.

dunno if this thread will get checked again but was curious, why not save the posted list from wp?

[Sylonious]

Originally Posted by Gary Becks

I get what your saying Dan, but for someone like me who is creating 1k+ links a day this just isn't an option. It might work on some of my micro niche sites though, but for very competitive niches where I am attempting to build authority sites it just wouldn't work...

Gary..

Lol, when will your "Link Juice Maximizer" service become available? What's holding up this service from being released?

Give us some details on that service. Price? Linking Limits etc.?

[Chucky]

Wow thanks Gary for starting this thread. I do quite a lot of this stuff (and of course Backlink Energizer) but never done the forum thing nor am I this organized.

Thanks a bunch for sharing a powerful strategy.
Chucky

[Drewry_Media]

What kind of software do you use to automate this process ?

[area51backlinks]

Awesome post, and really helpful. I've built tons and tons of profile links over time, but never seen anyone explain so clearly and thoroughly how to get as many of them as possible indexed. So thanks!

[dagaul101]

Nice strategy, getting backlinks from various sources is what gives BLB and BIE the edge in link boosting

[shareclock]

Hey thanks it will really help me, Because i spend more than a week to collect 300 back links. But now i have good option in my pocket.

[markowe]

I am a lightweight at this but I did write a little script which turns all my links into an RSS feed and returns a handful AT RANDOM when called. I then post it to some high-PR and decent traffic blogs as either a feed or a 'blogroll' (site-wide) with really boring generic titles so no-one clicks on, hopefully. So all my links get randomly rotated around these different blogs in a very inconspicuous way. Not industrial strength like you guys are doing but I doubt it hurts.