OMG WTF!?!? DE-INDEXED!!!

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by Born2rule

Thanks GuerrillaIM, for this interesting post, I had some of my adsense site listed in the same adsense account de-index recently. Never list all your site on that adsense account, e.g. "url channel".
You mention something about sub-domain, I wander if that is why my site was de-index, I don't know why it happen but somehow all the site that got deindex was index along with the primary/root domain. (hostgator baby share host acc). e.g "rootdomain.com/subdomain1", I check with seo quake, I discover that the primary domain has 19 pages index, when I only have about "6 pages" on the primary domain, further investigation reveal that the sub-domain were being index along with the primary domain. I wonder if this is normal?
I will try your re-index tips, I will add some post and quality back-link, hope that will reinstate my site!
I can't pm you insufficient post count,please I would like you to have a close look at the index pages?

I think I get what you are saying but would be much easier if I could see the URL.

You can email <my forum name>@gmail.com if you like.

[jochris26]

I have a site that was on page 1 of google for its main keyword. (Fat Loss for Women-Your Female Fat Loss Guide to help lose fat fast naturally through training and a healthy diet) I sold sponsorship to 4 of the 8 posts on it by putting one link in the first paragraph of those posts. I figured I would be okay as the topic was related and the site seemed legitimate.

Within a couple of days, my site dropped out of site. when I checked Is My Site Indexed? Find Out In Two Easy Steps!, it isn't found on Google, Yahoo, or Bing. So it seems like it has been de-indexed, but based on your original post, I have no clue as to why.

It's all original content and everything is on the up and up. In fact, I don't even have a clue how to do the things you mentioned that would cause my site to be indexed.

Any ideas on what might have happened? Do you think it will get indexed again?

Thanks,

Jo

[ukbuddy2]

being deindexed is a real pain
Sorry to hear re your site

I added some links to a site and it dropped out the rankings for a few days then came back and has slowly crept back up there.

I am still trying to get the sites reindexed at the moment.

Interesting point above re addin new content and waiting- this is what we have done
also adding more backlinks etc

so we wait and see

uk

[markowe]

Originally Posted by jochris26

Within a couple of days, my site dropped out of site. when I checked Is My Site Indexed? Find Out In Two Easy Steps!, it isn't found on Google, Yahoo, or Bing. So it seems like it has been de-indexed, but based on your original post, I have no clue as to why.

Just to mention, your site is not deindexed in any of the major search engines (it would be very unusual to be deindexed in all of them), it just isn't ranked for its keywords. You only have one page "ranking" at about no. 300 in the SERPS, and that is not your main page. Just use the site: operator in Google, I don't know what those online tools do or don't do but they evidently just cause confusion.

Anyway, your problem is VERY common, I have seen this many times - but still, no-one can really say for sure why Google does this. The most common issues in a case like this are:

a) Your site was on page one due to a "new site" bonus but has now taken up its "real" position (though I see it's been registered for about a year so maybe not)

b) It's doing a Google-dance and could return soon.

c) It never was on page one, you just thought it was because Google was personalising your search results.

d) You actually did get "penalised" (if there is such a thing) for some issue. I doubt they would figure out you were link-selling, there could be any number of other things.

Sorry, if we knew all the answers we would all be dominating the SERPS... As it is, all of us have sites that do this. All I can say is that this NEVER happened to any site I made where I just let it rank naturally.

The safest bet is to keep adding decent content for now and not do anything to try to manipulate your ranking, it could just make things worse... Continuing to add good content has got me out of positions like this in the past, where no amount of backlinking could, so it is worth just being patient.

[jochris26]

Hey Markowe,

Thanks a bunch for the feedback. I appreciate the help. I will just go after making it a high quality site and see what happens.

Thanks again,

Wishing you the best.

Jo

[ukcarl]

Ha Ha sent to hell love it never heard that before.

I think the moral of the story here is don't do dodgy stuff and your golden add value and its hard to get your site removed and if your rankings drop you can get them back.

[The Lawyer]

There is a legal adage that says something to the effect of: If you drive the speed limit you will never get a speeding ticket

Legally speaking, this is incorrect; however, the general message this adage tries to get across is relevant. If you are 100% white-hat you will never have anything to worry about.

This is how life works. If you want to try to circumvent the rules, fine; but you are taking a risk.

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by jochris26

I have a site that was on page 1 of google for its main keyword. (Fat Loss for Women-Your Female Fat Loss Guide to help lose fat fast naturally through training and a healthy diet) I sold sponsorship to 4 of the 8 posts on it by putting one link in the first paragraph of those posts. I figured I would be okay as the topic was related and the site seemed legitimate.

Within a couple of days, my site dropped out of site. when I checked Is My Site Indexed? Find Out In Two Easy Steps!, it isn't found on Google, Yahoo, or Bing. So it seems like it has been de-indexed, but based on your original post, I have no clue as to why.

It's all original content and everything is on the up and up. In fact, I don't even have a clue how to do the things you mentioned that would cause my site to be indexed.

Any ideas on what might have happened? Do you think it will get indexed again?

Thanks,

Jo

I can't say for sure but I have seen this exact thing happen before.

The fact you saw this happen after you added the links makes me think that you have linked to a bad neighbourhood.

I have seen it happen several times when people add a link to a site that has either for some weird reason got an adult classification or has done something that google doesn't like.

A lot of times this happens innocently. The guy buying the link uses IP cloaking to tailor adverts to the regions they are coming from and this looks suspicious to google (this was reason the BMW site got de-indexed a while back was due to their IP cloaking - although that wasn't so innocent ).

It could be unrelated but due to the timeline involved I would start by investigating these links. See if they are indexed first. As a general rule I never link out to a site that is not indexed incase they are part of a bad neighbourhood that got deindexed already.

[chrome]

Great post,

I've been testing all sorts of automated content for SEO for over 7 years now. All of these methods generally become ineffective after time. However, there are ways of using automated content which continue to work for long periods of time without being adversely affected by Google.

[fathobbitsss]

Hi guerilla,

what's your past experiences reguarding getting your own blog networks "sent to hell",

and why do you think they were sent to hell.

What would you recommend as best practices for hiding footprint.

Does adsense ID matter?

[mosthost]

I know this post is really old. De-indexing has become a lot more popular since it was written. Entire sites and many many pages are being dropped from Google on a regular basis.

[Iain Key]

Nice post, I've had sites Sent to Hell but never Deindexed

Still they might as well be for the effect it has

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by fathobbitsss

and why do you think they were sent to hell.

What would you recommend as best practices for hiding footprint.

Does adsense ID matter?

If you are going to try to game the search engines and are aware of the risks then you need to hide the footprint well.

Simple tips I use are:

- Use whoisguard
- Use custom DNS
- Don't use SPF record that includes multiple domains
- Check your complete hosts record and change anything that is consistent throughout your network.
- Don't over link between your network and use other sources of links also. Pay close attention to the IP's you link together and the sites you are linking. Keep track of it in spreadsheet (you can then convert this to xml and use report tools to create visual representation if you are feeling really clever).
- Don't leave telltale commonalties in your HTML code or content

I can't give you specifics of my exact methods as they work because not everyone does them. As soon as they become common knowledge I have to change things.

[ukbuddy2]

without being to simplistic either

It may have been google was just reading your cache and placing you on front page #1 in google as you had previously visited there
Then you cleared history or similar and it dropped of

I spent about 3 months just slowly adding som efresh content and my sites are now back online
I did change hosting etc and do th eprivacy thing too
And now sites are over a year old and creeping back up

cheers

Originally Posted by markowe

Just to mention, your site is not deindexed in any of the major search engines (it would be very unusual to be deindexed in all of them), it just isn't ranked for its keywords. You only have one page "ranking" at about no. 300 in the SERPS, and that is not your main page. Just use the site: operator in Google, I don't know what those online tools do or don't do but they evidently just cause confusion.

Anyway, your problem is VERY common, I have seen this many times - but still, no-one can really say for sure why Google does this. The most common issues in a case like this are:

a) Your site was on page one due to a "new site" bonus but has now taken up its "real" position (though I see it's been registered for about a year so maybe not)

b) It's doing a Google-dance and could return soon.

c) It never was on page one, you just thought it was because Google was personalising your search results.

d) You actually did get "penalised" (if there is such a thing) for some issue. I doubt they would figure out you were link-selling, there could be any number of other things.

Sorry, if we knew all the answers we would all be dominating the SERPS... As it is, all of us have sites that do this. All I can say is that this NEVER happened to any site I made where I just let it rank naturally.

The safest bet is to keep adding decent content for now and not do anything to try to manipulate your ranking, it could just make things worse... Continuing to add good content has got me out of positions like this in the past, where no amount of backlinking could, so it is worth just being patient.

[ryanalden]

Hi Guerrilla

i really appreciate and thanks to you for the information you have provide i really enjoyed reading the entire thread. It's really good to get this kind of valuable information . i specially like the cloaking one. thanks once again. keep it up...

[GeorgR.]

If you get de-indexed there is always a reason behind it, you don't get de-indexed for minor stuff. It's usually major stuff like spamming, autoblogging or your site being part of a blog network and found out etc.

[inazuman]

I have a lot of websites are affected by de-indexed. What I'm doing is just leave it and create a new website. lol

[TheProgrammer]

Originally Posted by inazuman

I have a lot of websites are affected by de-indexed. What I'm doing is just leave it and create a new website. lol

thats good idea for newly born sites only, but what if you put your 1year+ efforts to a site and this problem become?